My goal is to be FIT, NOT SKINNY!

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  • AlayshaJ
    AlayshaJ Posts: 703 Member
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    =.=
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
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    thin is fine. fit is fine. overweight is not.
  • Steven
    Steven Posts: 593 MFP Moderator
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    Hi Folks,

    I'd like to draw everyone's attention to a guideline that's being stepped on quite a bit in this thread.

    4. Show Respect to All Groups and Individuals

    No derogatory references to sex, gender, weight, body-type, ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation, or endorsement of violence against any person or group, even if couched in humor, will be permitted. This includes expressing stereotypes about any group or community.

    It's one thing to discuss and debate one's goals, but please refrain from making any further derogatory comments about some women's bodies or what women "should" look like.

    Thanks for your cooperation,
    Steven
    MyFitnessPal Staff
  • Madelinew22
    Madelinew22 Posts: 289
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    Haha some good stuff on this post! Lol
  • ladyraven68
    ladyraven68 Posts: 2,003 Member
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    thin is fine. fit is fine. overweight is not.

    but what if you are overweight and fit? :ohwell:
  • KLovesTy
    KLovesTy Posts: 37
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    No hating here, I understand what you mean. this is all a damned if you do, damned if you dont on message boards you have to be very careful with how you say anything.
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
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    thin is fine. fit is fine. overweight is not.

    but what if you are overweight and fit? :ohwell:

    if you are overweight you are not fit.
  • ladyraven68
    ladyraven68 Posts: 2,003 Member
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    thin is fine. fit is fine. overweight is not.

    but what if you are overweight and fit? :ohwell:

    if you are overweight you are not fit.

    What a ridiculous statement. What defines fit?

    Heart rate?, Blood pressure?, cholesterol?, abilty to run 10K?, ability to do 100 push ups?
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
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    thin is fine. fit is fine. overweight is not.

    but what if you are overweight and fit? :ohwell:

    if you are overweight you are not fit.

    What a ridiculous statement. What defines fit?

    Heart rate?, Blood pressure?, cholesterol?, abilty to run 10K?, ability to do 100 push ups?

    o i dont know...how about all the things we associate with being overweight? disease, stress on the body etc...
  • Madelinew22
    Madelinew22 Posts: 289
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    thin is fine. fit is fine. overweight is not.

    but what if you are overweight and fit? :ohwell:

    if you are overweight you are not fit.

    What a ridiculous statement. What defines fit?

    Heart rate?, Blood pressure?, cholesterol?, abilty to run 10K?, ability to do 100 push ups?

    o i dont know...how about all the things we associate with being overweight? disease, stress on the body etc...


    What a rude things to say. I was considered over weight at 130 cuz of my height. But I was prob a hell of alot better in shape then someone in normal range. Bmi scales are a load of ****. And my step dad had high blood pressure cuz it runs in the family but I bet he's in better shape then some other ppl. Unless ur a doctor and u no this persons medical history quit being a asd and keep ur opinion to urself
  • ladyraven68
    ladyraven68 Posts: 2,003 Member
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    thin is fine. fit is fine. overweight is not.

    but what if you are overweight and fit? :ohwell:

    if you are overweight you are not fit.

    What a ridiculous statement. What defines fit?

    Heart rate?, Blood pressure?, cholesterol?, abilty to run 10K?, ability to do 100 push ups?

    o i dont know...how about all the things we associate with being overweight? disease, stress on the body etc...

    So you think that everyone who is overweight has all those problems, and nobody who is thin has them?

    What a skewed idea you have.
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
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    I didnt mention BMI. i didnt say everyone who is overweight has every medical condition known to man.

    I'm saying if you are carrying an extra 20, 30, 50 lbs etc...then you are not fit.

    how am i wrong?
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
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    maybe we have different definitions of fit. fit to me includes having a BF% in the healthy range. and if you are outside of that then you are not fit.
  • ladyraven68
    ladyraven68 Posts: 2,003 Member
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    I didnt mention BMI. i didnt say everyone who is overweight has every medical condition known to man.

    I'm saying if you are carrying an extra 20, 30, 50 lbs etc...then you are not fit.

    how am i wrong?

    How are you right?

    Weight does not indicate fitness.
    If I can run a 10k and my skinny friend can't run a mile, you think my weight still says that I'm the unfit one?

    This is exactly what the original poster was talking about - people making assumptions about fitness based purely on size.
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
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    I didnt mention BMI. i didnt say everyone who is overweight has every medical condition known to man.

    I'm saying if you are carrying an extra 20, 30, 50 lbs etc...then you are not fit.

    how am i wrong?

    How are you right?

    Weight does not indicate fitness.
    If I can run a 10k and my skinny friend can't run a mile, you think my weight still says that I'm the unfit one?

    This is exactly what the original poster was talking about - people making assumptions about fitness based purely on size.

    so if someone is 100 lbs overweight with a BF% near 50 and can run a 10k then they are fit? i say no.
  • ladyraven68
    ladyraven68 Posts: 2,003 Member
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    maybe we have different definitions of fit. fit to me includes having a BF% in the healthy range. and if you are outside of that then you are not fit.

    There is no "maybe" about it.
  • ladyraven68
    ladyraven68 Posts: 2,003 Member
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    I didnt mention BMI. i didnt say everyone who is overweight has every medical condition known to man.

    I'm saying if you are carrying an extra 20, 30, 50 lbs etc...then you are not fit.

    how am i wrong?

    How are you right?

    Weight does not indicate fitness.
    If I can run a 10k and my skinny friend can't run a mile, you think my weight still says that I'm the unfit one?

    This is exactly what the original poster was talking about - people making assumptions about fitness based purely on size.

    so if someone is 100 lbs overweight with a BF% near 50 and can run a 10k then they are fit? i say no.

    If they have good cholestrol, great blood pressure, low resting heart rate, and can run 6 miles, you bet I think they are fit!

    But then I'm not shallow enough to judge people on looks alone.
  • Silverkittycat
    Silverkittycat Posts: 1,997 Member
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    get over yourself. i'm not shallow. i'm just telling it like it is. even if that person meets your criteria right now he wont in the long run. thats why people are trying to lose extra body fat. because they are not fit.

    you have a very distorted view of health and fitness. its this acceptance that being fat is ok under the right cicrumstances that is one of the reasons we are such a fat nation.


    I agree, just adding something from Stanford Medical. "not limited to"?
    Obesity has a far-ranging negative effect on health. Each year obesity-related conditions cost over 150 billion dollars and cause an estimated 300,000 premature deaths in the US. The health effects associated with obesity include, but are not limited to, the following:

    high blood pressure - Additional fat tissue in the body needs oxygen and nutrients in order to live, which requires the blood vessels to circulate more blood to the fat tissue. This increases the workload of the heart because it must pump more blood through additional blood vessels. More circulating blood also means more pressure on the artery walls. Higher pressure on the artery walls increases the blood pressure. In addition, extra weight can raise the heart rate and reduce the body's ability to transport blood through the vessels.

    diabetes - Obesity is the major cause of type 2 diabetes. This type of diabetes usually begins in adulthood but, is now actually occurring in children. Obesity can cause resistance to insulin, the hormone that regulates blood sugar. When obesity causes insulin resistance, the blood sugar becomes elevated. Even moderate obesity dramatically increases the risk of diabetes.
    heart disease - Atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries) is present 10 times more often in obese people compared to those who are not obese. Coronary artery disease is also more prevalent because fatty deposits build up in arteries that supply the heart. Narrowed arteries and reduced blood flow to the heart can cause chest pain (angina) or a heart attack. Blood clots can also form in narrowed arteries and cause a stroke.

    joint problems, including osteoarthritis - Obesity can affect the knees and hips because of the stress placed on the joints by extra weight. Joint replacement surgery, while commonly performed on damaged joints, may not be an advisable option for an obese person because the artificial joint has a higher risk of loosening and causing further damage.

    sleep apnea and respiratory problems - Sleep apnea, which causes people to stop breathing for brief periods, interrupts sleep throughout the night and causes sleepiness during the day. It also causes heavy snoring. Respiratory problems associated with obesity occur when added weight of the chest wall squeezes the lungs and causes restricted breathing. Sleep apnea is also associated with high blood pressure.

    cancer - In women, being overweight contributes to an increased risk for a variety of cancers including breast, colon, gallbladder, and uterus. Men who are overweight have a higher risk of colon and prostate cancers.

    metabolic syndrome - The National Cholesterol Education Program has identified metabolic syndrome as a complex risk factor for cardiovascular disease. Metabolic syndrome consists of six major components: abdominal obesity, elevated blood cholesterol, elevated blood pressure, insulin resistance with or without glucose intolerance, elevation of certain blood components that indicate inflammation, and elevation of certain clotting factors in the blood. In the US, approximately one-third of overweight or obese persons exhibit metabolic syndrome.

    psychosocial effects - In a culture where often the ideal of physical attractiveness is to be overly thin, people who are overweight or obese frequently suffer disadvantages. Overweight and obese persons are often blamed for their condition and may be considered to be lazy or weak-willed. It is not uncommon for overweight or obese conditions to result in persons having lower incomes or having fewer or no romantic relationships. Disapproval of overweight persons expressed by some individuals may progress to bias, discrimination, and even torment.
  • Bearface115
    Bearface115 Posts: 574 Member
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  • catshark209
    catshark209 Posts: 1,133 Member
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    get over yourself. i'm not shallow. i'm just telling it like it is. even if that person meets your criteria right now he wont in the long run. thats why people are trying to lose extra body fat. because they are not fit.

    you have a very distorted view of health and fitness. its this acceptance that being fat is ok under the right cicrumstances that is one of the reasons we are such a fat nation.


    I agree, just adding something from Stanford Medical. "not limited to"?
    Obesity has a far-ranging negative effect on health. Each year obesity-related conditions cost over 150 billion dollars and cause an estimated 300,000 premature deaths in the US. The health effects associated with obesity include, but are not limited to, the following:

    high blood pressure - Additional fat tissue in the body needs oxygen and nutrients in order to live, which requires the blood vessels to circulate more blood to the fat tissue. This increases the workload of the heart because it must pump more blood through additional blood vessels. More circulating blood also means more pressure on the artery walls. Higher pressure on the artery walls increases the blood pressure. In addition, extra weight can raise the heart rate and reduce the body's ability to transport blood through the vessels.

    diabetes - Obesity is the major cause of type 2 diabetes. This type of diabetes usually begins in adulthood but, is now actually occurring in children. Obesity can cause resistance to insulin, the hormone that regulates blood sugar. When obesity causes insulin resistance, the blood sugar becomes elevated. Even moderate obesity dramatically increases the risk of diabetes.
    heart disease - Atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries) is present 10 times more often in obese people compared to those who are not obese. Coronary artery disease is also more prevalent because fatty deposits build up in arteries that supply the heart. Narrowed arteries and reduced blood flow to the heart can cause chest pain (angina) or a heart attack. Blood clots can also form in narrowed arteries and cause a stroke.

    joint problems, including osteoarthritis - Obesity can affect the knees and hips because of the stress placed on the joints by extra weight. Joint replacement surgery, while commonly performed on damaged joints, may not be an advisable option for an obese person because the artificial joint has a higher risk of loosening and causing further damage.

    sleep apnea and respiratory problems - Sleep apnea, which causes people to stop breathing for brief periods, interrupts sleep throughout the night and causes sleepiness during the day. It also causes heavy snoring. Respiratory problems associated with obesity occur when added weight of the chest wall squeezes the lungs and causes restricted breathing. Sleep apnea is also associated with high blood pressure.

    cancer - In women, being overweight contributes to an increased risk for a variety of cancers including breast, colon, gallbladder, and uterus. Men who are overweight have a higher risk of colon and prostate cancers.

    metabolic syndrome - The National Cholesterol Education Program has identified metabolic syndrome as a complex risk factor for cardiovascular disease. Metabolic syndrome consists of six major components: abdominal obesity, elevated blood cholesterol, elevated blood pressure, insulin resistance with or without glucose intolerance, elevation of certain blood components that indicate inflammation, and elevation of certain clotting factors in the blood. In the US, approximately one-third of overweight or obese persons exhibit metabolic syndrome.

    psychosocial effects - In a culture where often the ideal of physical attractiveness is to be overly thin, people who are overweight or obese frequently suffer disadvantages. Overweight and obese persons are often blamed for their condition and may be considered to be lazy or weak-willed. It is not uncommon for overweight or obese conditions to result in persons having lower incomes or having fewer or no romantic relationships. Disapproval of overweight persons expressed by some individuals may progress to bias, discrimination, and even torment.


    YUP