For cryin' out loud. I eat pasta, fast food and ice cream!

Is having frozen yogurt instead of ice cream good? I love my pomegranate blueberry frozen yogurt or is it not clean enough because it's still dairy? >.>

Dairy is for baby mammals, are you a baby mammal?

My mom calls me her baby and humans are mammals. :P

Seriously, I can't imagine life without dairy products. I love cheese, ice cream, yogurt, etc. If you want to do it, go right ahead. I'm not making myself miserable by depriving myself of everything I love just to be "clean."

Holy crap, just reading this thread is really telling to why the world is getting fatter and unhealthier. People are so defensive about their sugar addictions that they will go so far as to attack those that avoid the disgusting stuff! Reminds me of addiction to many hard drugs out there. There are cravings, moods, sicknesses and even withdrawals. Let's get the stuff scheduled as a controlled substance ASAP, it would be one of the few drugs that actually belong there.

Holy crap, just reading this thread is really telling to why the world is getting fatter and unhealthier. People are so defensive about their sugar addictions that they will go so far as to attack those that avoid the disgusting stuff! Reminds me of addiction to many hard drugs out there. There are cravings, moods, sicknesses and even withdrawals. Let's get the stuff scheduled as a controlled substance ASAP, it would be one of the few drugs that actually belong there.

I feel the same way about bacon. Let's ban that crap! Legislation is the answer!

I'm so tired of seeing "I can't eat pasta. I can't eat fast food. I can't eat ice cream. I can't eat fruit. I can't have this. I can't have that."

Seriously. This is why people don't "diet" because they think they're only going to live on lettuce and nuts.

I eat pasta.
I drank booze (can't now because I'm pregnant).
I eat ice cream EVERY DAY. Yes, EVERY SINGLE DAY (and have for 7 months now)
I eat fast food.
Heck, I'll even have that 1000 calorie burrito from Chipotle.

And yes! I LOST WEIGHT. And how did I do it?

BY WORKING MY *kitten* OFF.

Did I really want that burrito? You bet I did. But I exercised to earn it.

Do I REALLY eat ice cream EVERY DAY? Sure do. I remember the days I would down half a container of Breyer's. Not anymore. The key is portion control. I get the Skinny Cow. Actually, right now I have full fat, full calorie TRIPLE CHOCOLATE DRUMSTICKS in my freezer. I had one last night, and golly, I made it fit into my plan.

*gasp* PASTA?! OH NO. Yes, I eat pasta and I do regularly. I'll usually have 1.5-2 servings of cheese ravioli WITH sauce PLUS vegetables with butter!

My macros are set at 45-35-20 and I hit them almost every day on point with calories to spare at the end of the day! Today - my macros came all to 0 at the end of the day.

You CAN eat all the "evil" foods. It's not a "diet", it's a LIFESTYLE CHANGE and the key to a lifestyle change is to enjoy everything you enjoy, but to adapt them in a way to make them fit into your new lifestyle.

PREACH IT SISTER! and AMEN!

I agree but with a slight tweak. I'm a fan of the 80-20 rule, so personally I try to stay on my eating plan of eating more fruits, veggies, lean protein, whole grains and dairy 80% of the time, and 20% of the time just doing WTH I want. :laugh: For some people, it's better to plan treats within a day of eating healthy, but I feel I'm better off with one day of "cheating". And I don't cram everything I can in my mouth, either, nor do I take advantage of each day I "allot" for myself (once every week).

I find that if I have treats more than that, it increases my cravings. That's just my take. :smokin:

This is well said. Most people are not machines and can't eat "clean" all of the time. I'm sure everyone is trying to do their best. We're all here for our own reasons and we're not all going to agree on what's best of each of us.

I think this is what she is meaning. I feel the same way I eat 80/20 as well. Now if I am out late and it's not my splurge day and my husband ordered pizza for dinner than I will fit it into my calorie range.

I don't know why people care so much about what others eat/don't eat.
I do what I do for ME, I eat what I eat for ME. I don't really care of someone
else doesn't want to eat pasta, ice cream or bread.

But those aren't clean foods,therefore you're destroying your health

This is the way I feel too. I won't put anyone down for feeling otherwise, but it's not the lifestyle I choose to live. For me, it's more about WHAT I put in my body and knowing where it came from, how it was processed, etc.

Agree 110%. For me it's about goals and the way I feel. If I eat 1000 calories made up of ice cream pizza, etc, ite inevitable I'll feel sluggish and not to mention, I'm not giving my body ANY nutrients. Now, if I use those calories with lean chicken breast, broccoli, brown rice, etc, then I know I'm giving my body its macronutrients and feeding my body energy. To me, being strong is healthy, not the number on the scale. Its all about choices your choices.

I don't know why people care so much about what others eat/don't eat.
I do what I do for ME, I eat what I eat for ME. I don't really care of someone
else doesn't want to eat pasta, ice cream or bread.

I don't think it's a matter of caring what others eat, in a "you MUST have pasta or ice cream!" kind of way. It's seeing topic after topic after topic of people who DO want to eat those things, but think they can't.

Obviously, medical issues trump desires. A diabetic shouldn't have cotton candy. Someone with Cialic disease should avoid gluten. Someone with shellfish allergies shouldn't have lobster.

But if you're a normal, active person... and you really want pizza, there's absolutely no reason to avoid pizza. For most people, some bread, some cheese, and some tomato sauce are not bad foods if eaten individually. They're not bad foods if you put them all together and call it pizza, either.

I hate seeing people suffer and struggle. And I firmly believe that the biggest hurdle for anyone trying to lose weight is the emotional/mental aspect of it. What you put in your mouth matters, but a sustainable way of eating long term matters more. How many times have people adopted a "diet" that excluded lots of their favorite foods, then something happens... they end up eating an entire cake or pizza, feel like they failed, and quit.

Someone who's already adopted a "everything in moderation" attitude is less likely to eat an entire cake, because it's not forbidden. They might still have that major binge, but accept it as part of life. They understand it's a just a detour, that they can turn themselves around and get back on course.

For most of my 30s, I maintained a weight at the high end of acceptable. Just a little bit more than I wanted to weigh. A few times, I tried to lose weight, but cutting calories too much. That never worked. Then I lost both parents, my job and my cat within a very short span of time (I know the cat sounds ridiculous to get upset about, but losing a young, healthy cat was unexpected and the straw that broke the camel's back), got severe depression and gained a little more weight.

This time around, I didn't want to restrict myself. I didn't want to just "lose weight." I wanted to get fit, healthy and strong. And I did it by watching my calories and macros, and exercising regularly. I typically ate between 1800-2000 calories a day, and had pizza once a week at least. I reached my goal so much easier than any other time in my life, and this was the first time I actually stuck with an eating plan (hate to call it a diet) to my goal weight. I've been maintaining for over a year.

Is having frozen yogurt instead of ice cream good? I love my pomegranate blueberry frozen yogurt or is it not clean enough because it's still dairy? >.>

Dairy is for baby mammals, are you a baby mammal?

It s bizarre that we are the only mammals to a) drink the milk of other mammals, and b) do so after weaning.

Because milk is delicious. Other mammals don't seem to care about the taste as much. XD

It s bizarre that we are the only mammals to a) drink the milk of other mammals, and b) do so after weaning.

No more bizarre than that we're the only mammals to cook our foods, plan and prepare meals, keep foods in refrigerators, etc. Humans do a LOT of things that could be considered unnatural.

Thank you! Sometimes unnatural isn't a bad thing after all. :P