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Full fat VS low fat
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I feel like this is a stupid question coming from a veteran calorie counter but 50g of fat is 50g of fat is it not? How do you feel more full or less full if you're hitting your fat macro whether it's from full fat or lower fat food?
Some say that they are never satiated on lower fat food.
I will say that there are foods for me that just 'hit the spot'. Those are more satiating than if I ate equivalent macros' worth of different foods because they satisfy more senses than just filling my belly. But, this is why I wouldn't go high or low fat. I pick whichever one suits me at the time.0 -
For me, both. If there are full and low fat versions of the same things and I like the low fat I will ALWAYS go for the low fat because I eat plenty of fat, more than recommended. And it's usually from things that don't come in low fat versions like nuts and olive oil. So I cut back wherever I can.
Plus, I dislike most full fat dairy and the phlegmy way it makes my throat feel. ::sick::2 -
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menotyou56 wrote: »
It doesn't satiate everyone and not all low fat stuff is loaded with sugar. Completely over generalized.11 -
menotyou56 wrote: »
It satiate YOU, and low fat products don't generally add extra sugar. If not for my taste buds, I would do low fat everything because fat does squat for my satiety except for adding extra calories to my foods, and I usually get my day's worth from olive oil and other naturally occurring fats anyway.2 -
menotyou56 wrote: »
As psulemon said, this is false.
Full fat might satiate you, it doesn't me. (Full fat dairy is not more satiating to me than the same amount -- so much lower cal amount -- of low fat dairy. I like bacon and eat it, but find it not satiating at all.)
Why do people say that low fat products ALWAYS contain added sugar. (menotyou, I'd be really interested if you would be willing to answer this.) That's just obviously untrue. The only low fat I eat are (1) dairy (no added sugar), (2) (rarely) egg whites (no added sugar), and (3) foods that are naturally no or low fat (no added sugar).3 -
menotyou56 wrote: »
It doesn't satiate everyone and not all low fat stuff is loaded with sugar. Completely over generalized.
Just about any 'food product' advertised as low fat has added sugar because it tastes like crap after taking the fat out.
Of course asparagus, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, etc are low fat and fine but not man made processed 'foods'.1 -
Oh, I thought of another low fat product I eat: sometimes I eat lean ground beef. Again, NO added sugar.
Many people like skinless, boneless chicken breast (I tend to cook my chicken with the skin on, often whole). Either way, though, the lower fat option has NO added sugar.4 -
menotyou56 wrote: »menotyou56 wrote: »
It doesn't satiate everyone and not all low fat stuff is loaded with sugar. Completely over generalized.
Just about any 'food product' advertised as low fat has added sugar because it tastes like crap after taking the fat out.
Of course asparagus, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, etc are low fat and fine but not man made processed 'foods'.
Maybe baked goods, but I get a lot of low fat dairy and lean meats, and they does not have any more sugar than full fat products. Hell, I largely cut fats because it offers inadequate volume to keep me full.4 -
menotyou56 wrote: »menotyou56 wrote: »
It doesn't satiate everyone and not all low fat stuff is loaded with sugar. Completely over generalized.
Just about any 'food product' advertised as low fat has added sugar because it tastes like crap after taking the fat out.
Of course asparagus, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, etc are low fat and fine but not man made processed 'foods'.
I don't see any added sugar in my skim milk or occasional low fat cream cheese...2 -
menotyou56 wrote: »menotyou56 wrote: »
It doesn't satiate everyone and not all low fat stuff is loaded with sugar. Completely over generalized.
Just about any 'food product' advertised as low fat has added sugar because it tastes like crap after taking the fat out.
Of course asparagus, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, etc are low fat and fine but not man made processed 'foods'.
I don't mean to be argumentative, but no, they don't. Could you be more specific about what kinds of low fat foods you're talking about?3 -
I usually eat full fat foods. Cream in my coffee when I don't have it black, full fat cottage cheese, yogurt, real butter, etc. It tastes better, keeps me full longer, and the fats are good for you.
the only fats I try to avoid are trans fats and hydrogenated fats/oils. These are generally in things like margarine (real butter is healthier and does not contain these) and lots of processed snack foods.1 -
I was just looking at 2 different cottage cheese containers I have in the fridge. one is 4% milkfat and the 1% milk fat(same brand) has 1g of sugar more than the 4%.the 4% has 4 and the other has 5. not a big difference. thats just for that product. Im not sure about anything else because I have nothing to compare to2
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I make my decision based on a) calories per serving b) flavor and c) cost
I do look at the teams fat content too, but not too closely.
I'm more likely to go low fat on some things (like dressings and sauces) just so I can have more of it, and full fat on others for the taste.2 -
It's likely because when the fat in milk has little or no lactose in it. When fat is removed, the milk solids that have lactose in them amount for more of the final product. The extra 1g of sugar in the nutrition information is probably naturally-occurring lactose. (You can check the ingredients list to make sure there's no added sugar.)CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I was just looking at 2 different cottage cheese containers I have in the fridge. one is 4% milkfat and the 1% milk fat(same brand) has 1g of sugar more than the 4%.the 4% has 4 and the other has 5. not a big difference. thats just for that product. Im not sure about anything else because I have nothing to compare to4 -
It's likely because when the fat in milk has little or no lactose in it. When fat is removed, the milk solids that have lactose in them amount for more of the final product. The extra 1g of sugar in the nutrition information is probably naturally-occurring lactose. (You can check the ingredients list to make sure there's no added sugar.)CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I was just looking at 2 different cottage cheese containers I have in the fridge. one is 4% milkfat and the 1% milk fat(same brand) has 1g of sugar more than the 4%.the 4% has 4 and the other has 5. not a big difference. thats just for that product. Im not sure about anything else because I have nothing to compare to
Im sure thats probably it(not all products have the added sugar label so far.at least these didnt).But my point is its not excessive added sugar like most think it is.1 -
menotyou56 wrote: »menotyou56 wrote: »
It doesn't satiate everyone and not all low fat stuff is loaded with sugar. Completely over generalized.
Just about any 'food product' advertised as low fat has added sugar because it tastes like crap after taking the fat out.
Of course asparagus, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, etc are low fat and fine but not man made processed 'foods'.
I don't mean to be argumentative, but no, they don't. Could you be more specific about what kinds of low fat foods you're talking about?
I think people are still operating under the Snackwells Principle circa 1993. Back when Low Fat was the diet craze du jour, but people still wanted to eat cookies - the food companies found a way to still make palatable foods without as much fat by substituting sugar. Now the pendulum has swung the other way, and we assume that all products have added sugar and since sugar is the latest substance to be demonized and blamed for all our health issues and the obesity epidemic, but fat is proclaimed to be the savior... people incorrectly suggest that anything that is marketed as low fat must be high in sugar.16 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
It's likely because when the fat in milk has little or no lactose in it. When fat is removed, the milk solids that have lactose in them amount for more of the final product. The extra 1g of sugar in the nutrition information is probably naturally-occurring lactose. (You can check the ingredients list to make sure there's no added sugar.)CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I was just looking at 2 different cottage cheese containers I have in the fridge. one is 4% milkfat and the 1% milk fat(same brand) has 1g of sugar more than the 4%.the 4% has 4 and the other has 5. not a big difference. thats just for that product. Im not sure about anything else because I have nothing to compare to
Im sure thats probably it(not all products have the added sugar label so far.at least these didnt).But my point is its not excessive added sugar like most think it is.
Yes, even in digestive biscuits which are baked goods (I like the full fat version anyway) the difference is less than half a gram of extra sugar per serving. I can live with that if I liked the light ones. I'm also of the opinion that sugar doesn't matter for a healthy person in the context of a good diet, but that's a 50 page thread for another day.4 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
It's likely because when the fat in milk has little or no lactose in it. When fat is removed, the milk solids that have lactose in them amount for more of the final product. The extra 1g of sugar in the nutrition information is probably naturally-occurring lactose. (You can check the ingredients list to make sure there's no added sugar.)CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I was just looking at 2 different cottage cheese containers I have in the fridge. one is 4% milkfat and the 1% milk fat(same brand) has 1g of sugar more than the 4%.the 4% has 4 and the other has 5. not a big difference. thats just for that product. Im not sure about anything else because I have nothing to compare to
Im sure thats probably it(not all products have the added sugar label so far.at least these didnt).But my point is its not excessive added sugar like most think it is.
Yes, even in digestive biscuits which are baked goods (I like the full fat version anyway) the difference is less than half a gram of extra sugar per serving. I can live with that if I liked the light ones. I'm also of the opinion that sugar doesn't matter for a healthy person in the context of a good diet, but that's a 50 page thread for another day.
yeah I have to eat low fat due to health issues.I like the full fat better but it is what it is.nope I eat a lot of carbs/sugar and my health markers have improved so1 -
I think many of the modern bogus comparisons use things like full fat plain yogurt vs low fat sweetened yogurt to illustrate their point because more fair comparisons would not show a good enough shock impact.2
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