site tells me to eat almost 3k cals a day,,,but I eat half that and still dont loose

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  • johnnylakis
    johnnylakis Posts: 812 Member
    I have mine set at sedentary also. 3,000 calories seems like alot. 2,000 should be max.
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  • jnv7594
    jnv7594 Posts: 983 Member
    Looks to me like the O.P. is trolling just to start an argument. He doesn't want answers. He just wants to argue with anyone who responds regardless of what they say.
  • cvcman
    cvcman Posts: 438 Member
    Humm....so if I say 140 pounds is where I want to be...dont add in my exercise??? man I'd be burning half of what I eat and probably have no energy???
  • cvcman
    cvcman Posts: 438 Member
    Well maybe not...that would be like 2100...but I bet I'm still under that most days a week...plus again I do cardio 7 days a week....and not walking cardio...lol also weights and work
  • cvcman
    cvcman Posts: 438 Member
    Jnv....dont reply then...its really that easy
  • itsbasschick
    itsbasschick Posts: 1,584 Member
    i'd guess you pegged it.
    jnv7594 wrote: »
    Looks to me like the O.P. is trolling just to start an argument. He doesn't want answers. He just wants to argue with anyone who responds regardless of what they say.

  • shai74
    shai74 Posts: 512 Member
    I don't eat ANY oatmeal. And I'm overweight. Must be why I'm losing weight and YOU'RE NOT. BAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA :)
  • cvcman
    cvcman Posts: 438 Member
    Shai....i won't waste my time replying to you....you are really not worth the effort :)
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    i'd guess you pegged it.
    jnv7594 wrote: »
    Looks to me like the O.P. is trolling just to start an argument. He doesn't want answers. He just wants to argue with anyone who responds regardless of what they say.

    I already said this, where's my credit? ;(
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    MKEgal wrote: »
    Don't eat back your exercise calories.
    this is the appropriate method if utilizing TDEE method, as your intake already takes into account average exercise. This is the incorrect way to do it if utilizing net method, which the website is designed to do automatically.
    The "method" my doctor & dietician use is this:
    find a healthy goal weight based on BMI
    multiply that by 10
    eat that many calories

    If someone is starting off very heavy (more than 100 lb overweight), so that method #1 would result in a drop of more than 1000 cal per day, they do this:
    multiply your current weight by 10
    subtract 1000
    eat that many calories
    as you lose weight, adjust calories downward until you get to (healthy goal weight) x 10

    When I first started, method #2 was about 100 cal more than method #1 for me.
    Now I'm using the simple way, though I'm thinking about tweaking it down by 50 cal or so. Still a healthy goal weight.

    Note that this is for _losing_ weight.
    Maintaining will take 13 - 15 cal per lb, depending on activity level.

    That method would certainly not be healthy for everyone. I lose weight rapidly at 1500-1600 NET, so I cannot even imagine how my body would react to 1300 calories a day with my goal being 130Ibs, at 5'10.
    And if someone short has a goal of 98 Ibs, they should be existing on 980 calories per day ?

  • DerekVTX
    DerekVTX Posts: 287 Member
    nill4me wrote: »
    I've not looked at your diary, but might you be over exercising as compared to the amount of food you eat? Some folks can't lose because they do not have enough of a deficit. Some folks can't lose because they have too large a deficit?

    That's such a ridiculous thing to say....."Some folks can't lose because they have too large a deficit"........how many fat Ethiopians in 1984?
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    edited October 2014
    MKEgal wrote: »
    Don't eat back your exercise calories.
    this is the appropriate method if utilizing TDEE method, as your intake already takes into account average exercise. This is the incorrect way to do it if utilizing net method, which the website is designed to do automatically.
    The "method" my doctor & dietician use is this:
    find a healthy goal weight based on BMI
    multiply that by 10
    eat that many calories

    If someone is starting off very heavy (more than 100 lb overweight), so that method #1 would result in a drop of more than 1000 cal per day, they do this:
    multiply your current weight by 10
    subtract 1000
    eat that many calories
    as you lose weight, adjust calories downward until you get to (healthy goal weight) x 10

    When I first started, method #2 was about 100 cal more than method #1 for me.
    Now I'm using the simple way, though I'm thinking about tweaking it down by 50 cal or so. Still a healthy goal weight.

    Note that this is for _losing_ weight.
    Maintaining will take 13 - 15 cal per lb, depending on activity level.

    If I were to do this method, I'd be eating 1500 to lose weight. I net 1880, eating up to 2100 with exercise. I've not had any issues losing weight. I am 20lbs from my goal.

    A much better way would be to estimate your calorie maintenance needs from a website like exrx.net or health-calc.com and then, if being really good, eat maintenance for a few months. If you maintain, then drop 10-20% from that intake, recalculate every 10lbs lost. This is all to ensure you lose weight on as many calories as possible, making it easier to lower your intake as needed. This is especially important for those of us with body compositional goals in mind. This method can be done by including exercise into the calculation so that you eat the same daily, or without exercise so that you log and eat back exercise calories when exercising. Both shoudl provide a similar intake amount once you average out your week.

    Again though, doctors are not educated in a way that gives them an authority for proper weight loss advice. Even dieticians are not all-knowing magical beings. I would personally use advice from a dietician simply for understanding how to balance my macro and micro intake, not for figuring out what my intake should be
  • girlwithcurls2
    girlwithcurls2 Posts: 2,281 Member
    cvcman wrote: »
    Shai....i won't waste my time replying to you....you are really not worth the effort :)
    Except that you did...

    Time to go home, friend. You are literally sitting here replying to people. This thread has been going on for hours. I say we all ignore it from now on and let it die out.
  • DerekVTX
    DerekVTX Posts: 287 Member
    cvcman wrote: »
    male 5'8" maybe 5'7" tall weight about 140

    Are you kidding me bud? A man that is 5'8 and weight's 140 lbs? What do you expect to lose? If you wanna lose weight cut off a frickin' leg.......I'm done with this trolling post, what a waste of time!
  • Beachedasbro
    Beachedasbro Posts: 7 Member
    edited October 2014
    Cvcman, I have a vid for you.... http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sCNrK-n68CM :D
  • libbydoodle11
    libbydoodle11 Posts: 1,351 Member
    Cvcman, I have a vid for you.... http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sCNrK-n68CM :D



    lmao!

  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    I've only read page one so far, but.....

    I don't know about the activity setting being set lower. I run 11 to 15 miles a week and heavy weight lift, have my activity level set to active, have a sit down job, and I've been maintaining for a good nine or so months now. When I was losing weight, I had to increase my activity level from sedentary to lightly active because the weight was coming off quicker than I wanted it to, and then up to active when I started maintenance because I was still losing weight and didn't want to.

    It seems to me with all the exercise CV does, his activity level is just about right. Therefore, I happen to agree with the "more calories than you think" theory. I have a long history of eating more calorie than I think, especially when I used cups, spoons, hands, and eyeballs as measurement devices.

    Also, the MFP database has so many inaccurate entries that it's not even funny. I often enter my own nutrition information under My Foods just to have the correct information. I also do a lot of nutrition data research so that I get the correct entries.

    CV, hopefully you've decided to use the food scale and become more judicious with your logging, which would make everything I say here moot. B)
  • caesar164
    caesar164 Posts: 312 Member
    edited October 2014
    I don't know why you want to lose any more weight? 140 pounds and 5' 8".... That's small, weak... If you are as active as you say, you need to eat more to lose more../ your metabolism is not working optimally with the little calories your consuming. If its telling you to eat 3k, then you should eat the 3k, just because you eat half the calories suggested doesn't mean you'll lose more weight faster... In fact the only weight you might lose is pure muscle weight. At your petite size you can't afford to lose any muscle...
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  • MagicalGiraffe
    MagicalGiraffe Posts: 102 Member
    This thread is making me nostalgic about Honeylisabee... ALL the caps emphasis! The amount of useful advise being completely ignored and excuses thrown out left, right and centre! When do we get a fake poster as the wife? :smiley:
  • happyfeetrebel1
    happyfeetrebel1 Posts: 1,005 Member
    You are under an inaccurate estimate of 3k. Clearly, that is too much to lose on

    You are not a special snowflake who breaks all laws of physics by not losing on a deficit. You are not creating a deficit. Since you THINK you are, one of 2 things is occurring. Either you're mislogging, or you're estimate of what you need is too high.

    Someone posted an entirely rational sounding 1700 something for you for intake, but I haven't seen you acknowledge it yet, you seem stuck on this 3000 thing. That is too damn many.

    I'm done watching you be combative. Take it or leave it. Fail or not, it's your choice.
  • cvcman
    cvcman Posts: 438 Member
    caesar164 wrote: »
    I don't know why you want to lose any more weight? 140 pounds and 5' 8".... That's small, weak... If you are as active as you say, you need to eat more to lose more../ your metabolism is not working optimally with the little calories your consuming. If its telling you to eat 3k, then you should eat the 3k, just because you eat half the calories suggested doesn't mean you'll lose more weight faster... In fact the only weight you might lose is pure muscle weight. At your petite size you can't afford to lose any muscle...

    Never said I wanted to loose more...pls. read first...and eating more isnt the answer to loosing
  • cvcman
    cvcman Posts: 438 Member
    You are under an inaccurate estimate of 3k. Clearly, that is too much to lose on

    You are not a special snowflake who breaks all laws of physics by not losing on a deficit. You are not creating a deficit. Since you THINK you are, one of 2 things is occurring. Either you're mislogging, or you're estimate of what you need is too high.

    Someone posted an entirely rational sounding 1700 something for you for intake, but I haven't seen you acknowledge it yet, you seem stuck on this 3000 thing. That is too damn many.

    I'm done watching you be combative. Take it or leave it. Fail or not, it's your choice.

    You for sure don't or didn't read my diary....
  • cvcman
    cvcman Posts: 438 Member
    This thread is making me nostalgic about Honeylisabee... ALL the caps emphasis! The amount of useful advise being completely ignored and excuses thrown out left, right and centre! When do we get a fake poster as the wife? :smiley:

    The useful advise was never ignored...the unuseful was
  • cvcman
    cvcman Posts: 438 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    caesar164 wrote: »
    I don't know why you want to lose any more weight? 140 pounds and 5' 8".... That's small, weak... If you are as active as you say, you need to eat more to lose more../ your metabolism is not working optimally with the little calories your consuming. If its telling you to eat 3k, then you should eat the 3k, just because you eat half the calories suggested doesn't mean you'll lose more weight faster... In fact the only weight you might lose is pure muscle weight. At your petite size you can't afford to lose any muscle...


    What?

    Ya I know,lol
  • cvcman
    cvcman Posts: 438 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    I've only read page one so far, but.....

    I don't know about the activity setting being set lower. I run 11 to 15 miles a week and heavy weight lift, have my activity level set to active, have a sit down job, and I've been maintaining for a good nine or so months now. When I was losing weight, I had to increase my activity level from sedentary to lightly active because the weight was coming off quicker than I wanted it to, and then up to active when I started maintenance because I was still losing weight and didn't want to.

    It seems to me with all the exercise CV does, his activity level is just about right. Therefore, I happen to agree with the "more calories than you think" theory. I have a long history of eating more calorie than I think, especially when I used cups, spoons, hands, and eyeballs as measurement devices.

    Also, the MFP database has so many inaccurate entries that it's not even funny. I often enter my own nutrition information under My Foods just to have the correct information. I also do a lot of nutrition data research so that I get the correct entries.

    CV, hopefully you've decided to use the food scale and become more judicious with your logging, which would make everything I say here moot. B)

    Thank you
  • cvcman
    cvcman Posts: 438 Member
    DerekVTX wrote: »
    cvcman wrote: »
    male 5'8" maybe 5'7" tall weight about 140

    Are you kidding me bud? A man that is 5'8 and weight's 140 lbs? What do you expect to lose? If you wanna lose weight cut off a frickin' leg.......I'm done with this trolling post, what a waste of time!

    I'm so glad you are done because you dont/cant read...I NEVER said I wanted to loose more weight....zeeez people READ
  • cvcman
    cvcman Posts: 438 Member
    cvcman wrote: »
    Shai....i won't waste my time replying to you....you are really not worth the effort :)
    Except that you did...

    Time to go home, friend. You are literally sitting here replying to people. This thread has been going on for hours. I say we all ignore it from now on and let it die out.

    I wish you would....funny how MOST of the people who actually read the post and had useful advise messaged me off this post...they also warned me about most of the pot stirring non-readers here....:)
  • trinatrina1984
    trinatrina1984 Posts: 1,018 Member
    So just scanning through this am I right in thinking:

    OP doesn't want to lose weight
    OP isn't losing weight
    OP doesn't agree with MFP calories goal
    OP spends 8 pages being rude to everyone who tries to offer advice

    If the goal is to let people know that MFP may not be accurate - thank you for letting us know (although it seems to work for 99.9% of people that use it properly)

    If this is not the goal what is it you want?