Opinion: why do men feel the need to offer advice to me in the weight room?
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Maybe you don't know what you're doing...0
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But I had a gay bestie for years and neither he nor his flatmate liked flowers. AT ALL! I know b/c I tried to put some in their place numerous times.
Everyone's gotta cry aboot something eh?MyChocolateDiet wrote: »
this is my favorite subtext of the thread, when the lady is feeling slighted and objectified based on her gender and then making fun of feminine things becomes the thing.
My turn...
I'm gonna do my yoga on a giant overnight kotex. with wings.
What aboot it implies to you and your personal gender bias that my gaiam mat is gender based objectification?
Is it that men aren't allowed flowers? Is it that men aren't allowed gaiam mats?
You implying I'm straight and only use flowery gaiam mats for comedy effect?
Interesting.
I guess my n=2 extrapolation was invalid.
my apologies.
also I have a bud now who is and he doesn't like it either.
it was about the flowers. not the mat. i do yoga with men with mats all the time. never EVER saw one with flowers though. Ever. Paradigm shift.
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Flower arranging is an old hobby of mine.MyChocolateDiet wrote: »
But I had a gay bestie for years and neither he nor his flatmate liked flowers. AT ALL! I know b/c I tried to put some in their place numerous times.
Everyone's gotta cry aboot something eh?MyChocolateDiet wrote: »
this is my favorite subtext of the thread, when the lady is feeling slighted and objectified based on her gender and then making fun of feminine things becomes the thing.
My turn...
I'm gonna do my yoga on a giant overnight kotex. with wings.
What aboot it implies to you and your personal gender bias that my gaiam mat is gender based objectification?
Is it that men aren't allowed flowers? Is it that men aren't allowed gaiam mats?
You implying I'm straight and only use flowery gaiam mats for comedy effect?
Interesting.
I guess my n=2 extrapolation was invalid.
my apologies.
also I have a bud now who is and he doesn't like it either.
it was about the flowers. not the mat. i do yoga with men with mats all the time. never EVER saw one with flowers though. Ever. Paradigm shift.
My mom got me into it when I was 5. 0 -
I see it as their natural protective nature and an instinct to help out girls. I don't find it patronizing.
It's like when a little kid trips and falls down and every mom in the room jumps up. They aren't patronizing the actual mom, they are just reacting on instinct.
My mantra is not to assume there are enemies where there are none. We all have plenty of real conflict that there is no need to put some in the gym too.0 -
ha! 2 pts0
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I have done this in the past, but only if they were doing something that would get them hurt or if they ask. Otherwise I never offer unsolicited advice.0
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I have never really had someone correct my form before unless it was as a peer.
I don't deal with being talked down to and I don't deal with correct from complete strangers- so I don't.
But I get pretty comfortable with the regulars- I trust a few certain of them and they trust me- I know they keep an eye out for people and are willing to help as needed under heavy unspotted loads.
I do the same for them.
I do understand these random instances happen- but I mostly just look at them and go- you like what you see? (usually the answer is yes)... and then I say- well clearly what I'm doing is working- which means I don't really need help.
And often times- if you just show up and keep doing the work- they stop realizing your the girl lifting and someone who came to train- and they don't "bother you" they do head nods- and ask if you need a spot- because perhaps you ACTUALLY need it. You become a member of the community- not an oddity.
Work out intently- don't be afraid to tell people you cant' talk b/c you're mid set or you're in the middle of something and just move on. It's not about emotions- it's about getting work done- lay that ground work out- and you'll be good to go.0 -
Everyone's gotta cry aboot something eh?MyChocolateDiet wrote: »
this is my favorite subtext of the thread, when the lady is feeling slighted and objectified based on her gender and then making fun of feminine things becomes the thing.
My turn...
I'm gonna do my yoga on a giant overnight kotex. with wings.
What aboot it implies to you and your personal gender bias that my gaiam mat is gender based objectification?
Is it that men aren't allowed flowers? Is it that men aren't allowed gaiam mats?
You implying I'm straight and only use flowery gaiam mats for comedy effect?
Interesting.
Another totally undeserving flagged post. I will fight these unnecessary flaggings with every fiber of my being!
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I saw a girl doing straight leg deadlifts today totally rounding her back over. I said nothing.0
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Yesterday I saw a man teaching his (presumably) girlfriend how to deadlift. On a smith machine. Round back like I've never seen! Never had to work so hard to restrain myself.dockholiday8234 wrote: »I saw a girl doing straight leg deadlifts today totally rounding her back over. I said nothing.0 -
^you guys. lol.0
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dockholiday8234 wrote: »I saw a girl doing straight leg deadlifts today totally rounding her back over. I said nothing.
this is even tough for me, if I see a girl doing something in a way that can harm her, it takes everything for me to leave her alone so she doesnt go log on to the internet and write a tirade on the MFP forums about how some elitist fitness snob was trying to correct her in the gym. SO I end up watching them out of the corner of my eye instead, like please stop please dont get hurt please stop and move on.
one time I was starting my deadlift sets with my warm ups - and you know how good form really only locks into place when you have enough weight to require, you know, effort? Well i did my couple warm up sets, which are like 105/125/135 just to get going, right? and this guy comes over and starts telling me while im in the middle of a set that if i put some weight on there it would make a real difference.
this is when you wanna take your barbell and ram it right up -
there's safety advice and then there is ignorant arrogance.
I think girls should measure intent before going all hulk on a guy cause he let her know her back was rounded.
I know not everyone is there for the brotherhood of physical fitness - but at least there are people out there that want to help and want to see you do well.
I'd rather have that happening than the opposite. what a lonely world that would be. There wouldnt even be forums because it would be a complete everyone for themselves attitude.
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Same thing happens to me on the driving range. There is an assumption that I don't know what I'm doing. I simply request that they not give me any advice. Most back off right away.0
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I think there is a line in the sand here. Men (or women) who genuinely want to help and have a good reason for stepping in (like preventing someone from hurting themselves), and there are people who use the opportunity as a either a pick up line or to boost their own ego.
The difficulty is that it can be very hard to tell in a split second whilst you are concentrating hard on working out to make that decision whether you have someone genuine, or someone with a different agenda.
It's really sad as there are some really nice guys at a gym class I attend, and they are all terrified of talking to any of the women unless the gal's engage them first in case general politeness is mistaken for something else. I've worked out along side a couple of guys for months and it's taken forever to break the ice!0 -
whenever i see someone with bad form i want to say something...but i never do, just bc i also don't ever want to be bothered while at the gym, but i understand in that scenario.0
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Some guys commented on how I should do a lift today. I actually appreciated it. The only problem is I probably would not know bad advise from good advise.0
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Heh, take a gander.
That's a sample from a special fx person. So that's not real, which is why it's so clean, and exhibits an extremely low level of trauma. However, this happens. Particularly possible during rock climbing as well.
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I have never really had someone correct my form before unless it was as a peer.
I don't deal with being talked down to and I don't deal with correct from complete strangers- so I don't.
But I get pretty comfortable with the regulars- I trust a few certain of them and they trust me- I know they keep an eye out for people and are willing to help as needed under heavy unspotted loads.
I do the same for them.
I do understand these random instances happen- but I mostly just look at them and go- you like what you see? (usually the answer is yes)... and then I say- well clearly what I'm doing is working- which means I don't really need help.
And often times- if you just show up and keep doing the work- they stop realizing your the girl lifting and someone who came to train- and they don't "bother you" they do head nods- and ask if you need a spot- because perhaps you ACTUALLY need it. You become a member of the community- not an oddity.
Work out intently- don't be afraid to tell people you cant' talk b/c you're mid set or you're in the middle of something and just move on. It's not about emotions- it's about getting work done- lay that ground work out- and you'll be good to go.
Girl, no one is going to correct your form when you're lifting more weight than them. haha0 -
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Because most are dbags...I see people all the time with bad form etc but hey that's their thing not mine. I don't think I have ever talked to someone that hasn't initiated conversation. I'm not there for social hour.0
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HAH!
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Probably because you're hot and they're dbags. I don't stop and give anybody advice and there were a couple times where I was really afraid these individuals might seriously hurt themselves and I wanted to, but I figured they would just be pissy and write a thread on MFP about me. LOL0
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Sam gave me advice once.
I had to take penicillin afterwards.0 -
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