If eating trash makes us sick, why do we keep eating it?
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Who here is against being healthy?
That seems like a straw man.0 -
I was following another thread called "Sugar is the problem folks"
Does anyone know what happened to it as it has disappeared.0 -
haven't seen this movie yet but I am posting it now because it is only available for the weekend. I have to get to work so I am taking the risk that it will be relevant to the conversation. It is about staying healthy and reserving the planet for the future. It leans towards the paleo concept so please try and keep an open mind and I hope it will help people understand why so many people on this thread are against sugar and processed foods and are not only wanting to lose weight but want to stay healthy.
http://origins.well.org/movie/
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Charlottesometimes23 wrote: »An acupuncturist makes a paleo movie....says we need to eat organic and sugar is toxic. Sounds like a fun movie.
Must admit Charlotte, even at my age, it is not my idea of a fun Saturday night. Not sure I will get to watch it either. But hey, someone might think it is their idea of a good time.0 -
I think the idea of watching something as silly as a good time, means someone is fairly sick mentally.-1
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Well there goes my sanity status as I will try to watch it tonight if it is still available. Difficult to comment on something I haven't seen.0
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I'll fess up. I indulged on potato chips at the bar on a recent cruise. Afterwards, I swear I could FEEL the fat from these chips inside my cheeks. It was like a chip hangover. I went beyond the mere instant gratification from having a few chips to well, almost overdosing. My logical, rational brain took a nap and my irrational animalistic lizard brain took over. Lizard brain wanted more chips.
My rational brain is back in charge and all is well in the world.0 -
Well there goes my sanity status as I will try to watch it tonight if it is still available. Difficult to comment on something I haven't seen.
Not actually. If someone is espousing a position as an expert, but lacks expertise and credibility, you know it's a waste of time and will be a bull puckey tour du force.
Just like I don't go to politicians for my science knowledge.0 -
dbmata, how do you dismiss something as "bull pucky" without even seeing it? How do you dismiss people saying they lack expertise and credibility without knowing the calibre of the people involved or even who they are?
The trailer states, "Four years, 19 countries, and 24 experts in anthropology, medicine, ecology, and health ............"
Are they all idiots - I don't believe so. I still haven't seen it but I plan to keep an open mind until I do.0 -
dbmata, how do you dismiss something as "bull pucky" without even seeing it? How do you dismiss people saying they lack expertise and credibility without knowing the calibre of the people involved or even who they are?
The trailer states, "Four years, 19 countries, and 24 experts in anthropology, medicine, ecology, and health ............"
Are they all idiots - I don't believe so. I still haven't seen it but I plan to keep an open mind until I do.
I had a read of the type of people involved in well.org, and the producer's bio, and some of his claims, particularly on topics I know very well, and I knew it was a vanity project full of pseudoscience, peppered with just enough actual science to mislead the unwary.0 -
Well there goes my sanity status as I will try to watch it tonight if it is still available. Difficult to comment on something I haven't seen.
Not actually. If someone is espousing a position as an expert, but lacks expertise and credibility, you know it's a waste of time and will be a bull puckey tour du force.
Just like I don't go to politicians for my science knowledge.
And this ^^^^
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Charlotte, I love all this "save the planet" stuff. Stop pollution, overuse of chemicals, toxins making us sick etc etc etc. Great believer in acupuncture, meditation, yoga, food is our medicine, back to nature - bit of a leftover from the hippy era really so I love reading Well org. and sites like that.
We are all different, and I believe, entitled to our opinions and beliefs, it is what makes the world an interesting and better place.0 -
Charlotte, I love all this "save the planet" stuff. Stop pollution, overuse of chemicals, toxins making us sick etc etc etc. Great believer in acupuncture, meditation, yoga, food is our medicine, back to nature - bit of a leftover from the hippy era really so I love reading Well org. and sites like that.
We are all different, and I believe, entitled to our opinions and beliefs, it is what makes the world an interesting and better place.
So you've crossed the woo-becon. Nuff said.
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Charlotte, I love all this "save the planet" stuff. Stop pollution, overuse of chemicals, toxins making us sick etc etc etc. Great believer in acupuncture, meditation, yoga, food is our medicine, back to nature - bit of a leftover from the hippy era really so I love reading Well org. and sites like that.
We are all different, and I believe, entitled to our opinions and beliefs, it is what makes the world an interesting and better place.
That's fair enough Leena. You did say earlier that you don't care for the opinion of scientists or dietitians, which sounds to me like you are particularly anti-science, and not interested in a balanced view. You are suggesting that we keep open-minded when it seems that you are not prepared to do the same yourself.
That's how it seems to me anyway...
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Personally I think it's a mixture of reasons...
1. Short term effects - sugar spike
2. Taste Buds
3. Media/Community/Acceptance
Of course the short term effect is a sugar spike and our bodies are designed to crave that when they think we are in need of it... especially when we haven't eaten enough and are in need of general energy boost - our bodies react thinking of the short term in this situation.
Taste buds... well, how many people don't like cake? Or some form of sweet?... then again aren't there some super sweet tasting berries out there... why aren't those as yummy to everyone?
The third option is what I conclude to as the reason for my personal craving of sugar. (note: This is my opinion and based on me, not science!) I recently wrote a post in my blog about this and how society thinks sweet is a good choice, which you are welcome to read. But in all, I was fed a hella lot of sweets when I was young. I was brought up with Cadbury's chocolate as a well done, feel better and a nice snack... thus (what I believe) creating my lifelong craving for sugar as a comfort food and go-to for emotional eating. Aside from that, after cutting out Cadbury's for a while, I recently tried some and discovered I don't actually like the taste! I do still like some chocolate so I can't say it's that. My only conclusion is that the comfort of the memories and conditioning of my brain made it nice!
Well... that's my take on it. It helped me to learn this about myself, maybe someone else has a similar experience or another person can read this and relate... xxx0 -
Charlotte, I love all this "save the planet" stuff. Stop pollution, overuse of chemicals, toxins making us sick etc etc etc. Great believer in acupuncture, meditation, yoga, food is our medicine, back to nature - bit of a leftover from the hippy era really so I love reading Well org. and sites like that.
We are all different, and I believe, entitled to our opinions and beliefs, it is what makes the world an interesting and better place.
It's a project designed to mislead the easily lead.
Sorry.0 -
Charlottesometimes23 wrote: »Charlotte, I love all this "save the planet" stuff. Stop pollution, overuse of chemicals, toxins making us sick etc etc etc. Great believer in acupuncture, meditation, yoga, food is our medicine, back to nature - bit of a leftover from the hippy era really so I love reading Well org. and sites like that.
We are all different, and I believe, entitled to our opinions and beliefs, it is what makes the world an interesting and better place.
That's fair enough Leena. You did say earlier that you don't care for the opinion of scientists or dietitians, which sounds to me like you are particularly anti-science, and not interested in a balanced view. You are suggesting that we keep open-minded when it seems that you are not prepared to do the same yourself.
That's how it seems to me anyway...
My previous comment stands, stuff like this is for the people who have replaced knowledge with belief.
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Instead of focusing on what you eat, focus on how much. I see from your profile you are recently married and have 92 pounds to lose. Is it fair to your family to choose to have a shorter life expectancy because of your weight? Of course not! If you won't count calories for yourself then do it for them.
Its okay if you consume some fast food and candy as long as you hit your calorie and macro targets.0 -
Charlottesometimes23 wrote: »Charlotte, I love all this "save the planet" stuff. Stop pollution, overuse of chemicals, toxins making us sick etc etc etc. Great believer in acupuncture, meditation, yoga, food is our medicine, back to nature - bit of a leftover from the hippy era really so I love reading Well org. and sites like that.
We are all different, and I believe, entitled to our opinions and beliefs, it is what makes the world an interesting and better place.
That's fair enough Leena. You did say earlier that you don't care for the opinion of scientists or dietitians, which sounds to me like you are particularly anti-science, and not interested in a balanced view. You are suggesting that we keep open-minded when it seems that you are not prepared to do the same yourself.
That's how it seems to me anyway...
Did I really say that, oops can't remember but I will try to have a balanced view in the future. Pull me up if you think I am becoming narrow minded. I don't think I am anti-science as scientist have been responsible for too many amazing things in the past.
Thanks to those who are trying to bring the thread back to topic.0 -
GenesiaElizabeth wrote: »Sodium bicarbonate is used in a process for removing paint and corrosion called sodablasting; the process is particularly suitable for cleaning aluminium panels which can be distorted by other types of abrasive. It can be administered to pools, spas, and garden ponds to raise pH levels.[11] It has weak disinfectant properties,[12][13] and it may be an effective fungicide against some organisms.[14] Because baking soda will absorb musty smells, it has become a reliable method for used-book sellers when making books less malodorous.[15]
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_bicarbonate
1. I clearly gave up on this thread too soon. This is pure forum gold.
2. Are the remaining 18 pages yet unread filled with similar nuggets? If so...
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