225/135 Max-Rep Bench Press "Club"

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  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    TR0berts wrote: »
    jofjltncb6 wrote: »
    jofjltncb6 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    I spot like this
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    How you know you are a lifter he is benching 235 LBs.

    Looks more like a plate, 25, 5, 2.5 so I would say it's actually 200. If it's a 35 not a 25 then it's 220.

    I'm pretty sure that's a 45, 35, 10, and 5 a side...so that's 235. (First thing I did when I saw that pic was to add it up.)

    Regardless of the number, the guy looks stapled...although it could just be timing of the pic...and even more likely, is completely staged.

    Oh, staged I'm sure. I also don't understand why someone wouldn't just do the 2 plates and a 5 if they are doing 235 -- unless you are at my gym and all the plates have wandered off that is. :angry:

    I can never post a pic of my barbell loaded then. To add weight to my standard set of no more than a pair of everything (and for my oly db handles), I bought a couple hundred pounds of 10s...so instead of a Devo hat, I often end up with a top hat. Besides, sometimes it's just easier to keep ramping up with the nickels and dimes instead of stripping just to put on a big boy wheel.

    I'm not judging lol, just confused when people do that unless they are stripping but 5 and 10 is really pretty small for a strip. Most of my strips are 25 lb drops.

    ETA I did know one guy who did very small adds just because he thought it made it look like he was lifting more weight so this might be my hang up. :p


    This is really funny as I look at your profile pic.


    Oh, and when I deadlift, I only use one full plate. I build off of 35s, as we don't have DL loader bars. I don't want to waste energy getting more 45s on/off.

    You roll one side under a 2.5lb plate. Every plate except the 1st one slides off easy.

    That's the trick I use too.

    amateurs.

    you need a dead lift leverage bar.

    no 2.5 ever needed ;)

    Yeah, my gym sucks for free weights, not enough bars, benches, or weights but oh the cardio gang gets tons of stuff! :angry: :rage: No way will they ever spring for a leverage bar since they don't even have a dead lift area to start with. They just ignore the fact that we do it since there are so many that do.
    My Y = weaksauce. No prop bar for us.

    i'm talking like a douch- this gym in all my years of lifting is the first one with a leverage bar- and I'm insanely happy with it. how every gym that allows dead doesn't have one- I have no idea- for real. best.invention.ever.

    I was doing my deads at my powerlifting gym this morning. Of course we have the leverage bar, but I still use the plate trick instead.

    really? I find it so much more cumbersome than the leverage bar. But some of our plates don't fit really well on the bar- so having the extra clearance for wiggle room is a win.

    I'm that lazy. The plate is a couple feet, the loader bar I'd have to track down and then put back, and there are fines for forgetting to put things back. Plus the only time I care about having my plates tight is on the platform and then it's not me loading.

    Fine for leaving weights about? I've got to get to a gym like that! I've seen guys wander off leaving 4 plates a side on the bar after they finish their DL's. It's very annoying. :angry:
  • uconnwinsnc1
    uconnwinsnc1 Posts: 902 Member
    DB brought this up and I wanted to sample your opinions on this.

    Yesterday afternoon, between sets, I was asked to spot which is totally cool by me. This guy set the bar up with 295. Nice big lift, but suicide grip while wearing rings on just about every finger.

    I had visions of the bar rolling out of his hands and crushing his chest and me watching in slow motion horror. He didn't want me to touch the bar at all, yet I wanted to have my hands close in case I watched this horror unfold before me.

    I wanted to decline. I wanted to say "Sure I'll spot you, but not with that grip." "Or sure I'll spot you but I need to keep my hands on the bar in case it rolls from your hands." But you know how we all get when it comes to our spots...

    Seriously, what the heck should I have done? I still feel I should have gone with my first inclination and declined unless conditions.

    "I'll spot you but not with that grip and that weight." You can always say no to spotting someone.
  • DB brought this up and I wanted to sample your opinions on this.

    Yesterday afternoon, between sets, I was asked to spot which is totally cool by me. This guy set the bar up with 295. Nice big lift, but suicide grip while wearing rings on just about every finger.

    I had visions of the bar rolling out of his hands and crushing his chest and me watching in slow motion horror. He didn't want me to touch the bar at all, yet I wanted to have my hands close in case I watched this horror unfold before me.

    I wanted to decline. I wanted to say "Sure I'll spot you, but not with that grip." "Or sure I'll spot you but I need to keep my hands on the bar in case it rolls from your hands." But you know how we all get when it comes to our spots...

    Seriously, what the heck should I have done? I still feel I should have gone with my first inclination and declined unless conditions.

    "I'll spot you but not with that grip and that weight." You can always say no to spotting someone.

    Yes I should have and I quite agree. I was a big chicken - I knew better.
  • bingfit221 wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    bingfit221 wrote: »
    I don't believe these women who are saying they have done 195.

    http://www.wabdl.org/WORLDS/worlds_women.php

    Yeah..... right.

    My 1RP is my bodyweight 162.

    I can press 185- I have it on video.

    You don't have to believe me. I know I can do it. Tough titties for you that you can't press more.

    But I want to know if that was you or the 16-year old boy inside you that did that. ;)

    Impressive just the same.

    It should be credited to whoever owns the lats on my rather robust backside. I'm not sure they are the 16 year old boys- but yeah- it is what it is.

    To be fair- and in the interest of complete transparency- that's not a federation legal press- just straight down- to chest and up to lock out. No pause- I have bad elbows- pausing for me is an injury waiting to happen- but was a clean lift all the way down to lockout.

    I highly doubt many us of are pressing per a federation standard.

    Many of the guys in my gym would be lucky to get a half rep let alone a full rep on some of their heavier benches. I'm not sure if they are listening to people that say a full bench will destroy your shoulders or just have no idea how to actually bench.

    Many guys hardly bench at all it seems. This is the soup de -jour that many prefer to use.
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    I have never used this machine. I think guys like it because you can stick a bunch of weight on it and look impressive. I'd only use it after my presses to extend the work on them if I was so incline to use this piece of equipment.

    Anyway, I'm a full rep guy myself but I am not really sure how just fed standard I am - never trained for a comp.

    Oh, when I stated "many us" I didn't mean "us" on this forum specifically. Language fail.

    Suppine bench. I actually like it. It decreases ROM.
    I gave it a shot after all main work today (today was chest/tris). First without weight. Wasn't really sure how to position my body. Slapped some quarters on. No. Didn't like it a bit. Pressing that way from the starting position not comfortable or natural.
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    DopeItUp wrote: »

    These are awesome (and compact, and cheap): mini-deadlift-bar-jack-h2_1_1.jpg

    Just a side note, using one 45 and a bunch of 35s is probably fine until you get pretty heavy. If you think about it, you're concentrating all of the weight on the contact point of just one plate. At heavier weights this could damage the plate or the floor. Or even the bar maybe. All the 35s would be levering on that one focus point of contact and could bend the bar when you hit the floor with it. Maybe. But I could definitely see it doing major damage to even a concrete floor (or cracking the single 45 plate itself).

    Food for thought.



    Yeah - I've thought about that. Our "heavy" section is covered in thick hard rubber pads, so I'm not too worried about damaging the floor underneath. And yeah - last time I did 1RM testing, I used all 45s that I could.

    I'll definitely look into those jacks. Thanks. Hmmm... I wonder if Dick's has those online? I got a gift card for there for Christmas that I haven't used.

  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    TR0berts wrote: »
    DopeItUp wrote: »

    These are awesome (and compact, and cheap): mini-deadlift-bar-jack-h2_1_1.jpg

    Just a side note, using one 45 and a bunch of 35s is probably fine until you get pretty heavy. If you think about it, you're concentrating all of the weight on the contact point of just one plate. At heavier weights this could damage the plate or the floor. Or even the bar maybe. All the 35s would be levering on that one focus point of contact and could bend the bar when you hit the floor with it. Maybe. But I could definitely see it doing major damage to even a concrete floor (or cracking the single 45 plate itself).

    Food for thought.



    Yeah - I've thought about that. Our "heavy" section is covered in thick hard rubber pads, so I'm not too worried about damaging the floor underneath. And yeah - last time I did 1RM testing, I used all 45s that I could.

    I'll definitely look into those jacks. Thanks. Hmmm... I wonder if Dick's has those online? I got a gift card for there for Christmas that I haven't used.

    The one in the picture is from Rogue so you can get them online through them.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    my wife stopped buying me gift cards to dicks when she realized they sold ammo... lol.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    edited January 2015
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    TR0berts wrote: »
    bingfit221 wrote: »
    I don't believe these women who are saying they have done 195.

    http://www.wabdl.org/WORLDS/worlds_women.php

    Yeah..... right.

    My 1RP is my bodyweight 162.


    :|

    a) As has been mentioned, bench shirts;
    b) They don't "say" they've done it - those are from PL competitions. They've been witnessed and judged. So, whether you believe them or not, it's verified that they bench that much.
    c) Ok...? So you aren't as strong as them.

    I find it a little disturbing that a certified personal trainer is doubting the results from an official powerlifting competition. One thing that anyone that has lifting for any amount of time is this. There are some really strong people and they don't always look big. There's always someone faster, stronger, taller, better looking etc...


    I used to wonder that to. I used to lift with a guy who knock out 275x5 easy and had no pecs. I was like how do you lift so much. His BW had to be around 150-160 if that.

    Dude! That was my experience yesterday with SG guy. He didn't look very big, was dressed in street clothes, and then repped all that out very easily in my max range.

    Depends on a lot of things. People always make these claims that I look so strong. I always trained in the 8-12 reps range for years and years. I'm like i'm not strong.l5svmmxhiuv0.jpeg MY stats my weight was 220 at that time.

    to
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    MY friends stats and what I call strong.


  • McCloud33
    McCloud33 Posts: 959 Member
    I'll just be happy when I reach "advanced" for all of mine. 30 more lbs on bench and 30 on deadlift and I'm pretty much there.

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  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    I'm envious of that squat. My DL is 505, but squat still around 340 or so.
  • McCloud33
    McCloud33 Posts: 959 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    I'm envious of that squat. My DL is 505, but squat still around 340 or so.

    And I'm envious of a 505 DL...LOL I can't figure out why my DL isn't further ahead?
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    I've been grinding it hard as all get out since late november. 2x a week most weeks. Try that. I've been going by the rule, if it hurts to grip something, I don't have to DL that session. heh.
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    I've been grinding it hard as all get out since late november. 2x a week most weeks. Try that. I've been going by the rule, if it hurts to grip something, I don't have to DL that session. heh.

    What do you weigh again?
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    I've been grinding it hard as all get out since late november. 2x a week most weeks. Try that. I've been going by the rule, if it hurts to grip something, I don't have to DL that session. heh.

    What do you weigh again?
    ... a lady never tells her weight, and a gentleman never asks.
    238.
  • McCloud33
    McCloud33 Posts: 959 Member
    I'm in the middle of a pretty drastic cut cycle right now, so I'm only lifting heavy a couple days a week. It's taking longer to recover on this deficit. Trying to get myself down to 165-170 by the end of March.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    *sigh*

    Forever intermediate...

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    (Okay, so not technically "maxes" because I finally decided true max testing was counterproductive to my goals, but are the heaviest weights I've moved recently.)
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    ^ charge your phone bro
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    ^ charge your phone bro

    At first I thought this was cryptic bro-speak for "get stronger".

    Did you miss the lightning bolt? I am...but via *kitten* docking station so barely enough juice to keep up.



    Forever intermediate...and forever low battery.
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    jofjltncb6 wrote: »
    ^ charge your phone bro

    At first I thought this was cryptic bro-speak for "get stronger".

    Did you miss the lightning bolt? I am...but via *kitten* docking station so barely enough juice to keep up.



    Forever intermediate...and forever low battery.

    I'm not that much of a bully :)

  • yopeeps025 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    TR0berts wrote: »
    bingfit221 wrote: »
    I don't believe these women who are saying they have done 195.

    http://www.wabdl.org/WORLDS/worlds_women.php

    Yeah..... right.

    My 1RP is my bodyweight 162.


    :|

    a) As has been mentioned, bench shirts;
    b) They don't "say" they've done it - those are from PL competitions. They've been witnessed and judged. So, whether you believe them or not, it's verified that they bench that much.
    c) Ok...? So you aren't as strong as them.

    I find it a little disturbing that a certified personal trainer is doubting the results from an official powerlifting competition. One thing that anyone that has lifting for any amount of time is this. There are some really strong people and they don't always look big. There's always someone faster, stronger, taller, better looking etc...


    I used to wonder that to. I used to lift with a guy who knock out 275x5 easy and had no pecs. I was like how do you lift so much. His BW had to be around 150-160 if that.

    Dude! That was my experience yesterday with SG guy. He didn't look very big, was dressed in street clothes, and then repped all that out very easily in my max range.

    Depends on a lot of things. People always make these claims that I look so strong. I always trained in the 8-12 reps range for years and years. I'm like i'm not strong.l5svmmxhiuv0.jpeg MY stats my weight was 220 at that time.

    to
    84e2qaggciup.png

    MY friends stats and what I call strong.


    What's that axiom? Something about books and covers...

    Just to get out of moving all my friends stuff I would tell them that my muscles were just for show. They never believed me, but afterwards I got fed free pizza and beer.
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    jofjltncb6 wrote: »
    *sigh*

    Forever intermediate...

    624dvvz7tcx0.jpg

    (Okay, so not technically "maxes" because I finally decided true max testing was counterproductive to my goals, but are the heaviest weights I've moved recently.)

    How are you getting lift numbers that aren't in 5lb increments?
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    edited January 2015
    Here's what I'm getting...

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    Hmm, hard to read... and honestly I think it might be over calculating my maxes.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    jofjltncb6 wrote: »
    *sigh*

    Forever intermediate...

    624dvvz7tcx0.jpg

    (Okay, so not technically "maxes" because I finally decided true max testing was counterproductive to my goals, but are the heaviest weights I've moved recently.)

    How are you getting lift numbers that aren't in 5lb increments?

    Microplates.
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    Here's what I'm getting...

    y11omxy5d2ld.gif

    Hmm, hard to read... and honestly I think it might be over calculating my maxes.

    I plugged it in and I thought sort of the same. I see where the odd ball max numbers fit it now
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