225/135 Max-Rep Bench Press "Club"
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redfisher1974 wrote: »1.5 x body-weight is also a good standard. I'm at 1.42 and closing in.
I'm right at that ratio @170lbs. I do a heavy work chest day and a light chest day.0 -
uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »No_Finish_Line wrote: »interested to see how you do. Looks like I could play in the NBA then (if I was like 2 foot taller lol)
NBA players have significantly longer arms so they don't have good leverage to do a high weight bench press. Monta Ellis and Kevin Durant are two super star talents that can't bench 185 even once.
What... there are football players that are 6'7" and taller, they have long arms too. A buddy I played high school with played in the NFL for a bit and hit 225 for 32 reps, though he was 6'7" 320, not 200lbs like NBA players of the same height.
Hmm, no. Calvin Johnson who has a 6'10 wingspan. J.J. Watt has a 6'10 wingspan. Those seem to be two of the biggest I can find. Durant has a 7'4 wingspan. Andre Drummond has a 7'6 wingspan. Anthony Davis has a 7'7 wingspan. Wilt Chamberlain had a 7'8 wingspan.
There is a very noticeable difference in body structures between the NFL and NBA.0 -
uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »No_Finish_Line wrote: »interested to see how you do. Looks like I could play in the NBA then (if I was like 2 foot taller lol)
NBA players have significantly longer arms so they don't have good leverage to do a high weight bench press. Monta Ellis and Kevin Durant are two super star talents that can't bench 185 even once.
There is a very noticeable difference in body structures between the NFL and NBA.
LOL, just a little difference that's hardly noticible at all.
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This got me curious, so I measured my wingspan at my office - may not be entirely accurate but close.uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »No_Finish_Line wrote: »interested to see how you do. Looks like I could play in the NBA then (if I was like 2 foot taller lol)
NBA players have significantly longer arms so they don't have good leverage to do a high weight bench press. Monta Ellis and Kevin Durant are two super star talents that can't bench 185 even once.
What... there are football players that are 6'7" and taller, they have long arms too. A buddy I played high school with played in the NFL for a bit and hit 225 for 32 reps, though he was 6'7" 320, not 200lbs like NBA players of the same height.
Hmm, no. Calvin Johnson who has a 6'10 wingspan. J.J. Watt has a 6'10 wingspan. Those seem to be two of the biggest I can find. Durant has a 7'4 wingspan. Andre Drummond has a 7'6 wingspan. Anthony Davis has a 7'7 wingspan. Wilt Chamberlain had a 7'8 wingspan.
There is a very noticeable difference in body structures between the NFL and NBA.
About 72" (aka 6 feet.)
Does this qualify my arms as stubby? Will I ever play in the NBA?0 -
there might be a position available on the tropics.0
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civilizedworm wrote: »
AHHHHHH, can't unsee!0 -
Gives a new meaning to ball boy.0
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civilizedworm wrote: »
This got me curious, so I measured my wingspan at my office - may not be entirely accurate but close.uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »No_Finish_Line wrote: »interested to see how you do. Looks like I could play in the NBA then (if I was like 2 foot taller lol)
NBA players have significantly longer arms so they don't have good leverage to do a high weight bench press. Monta Ellis and Kevin Durant are two super star talents that can't bench 185 even once.
What... there are football players that are 6'7" and taller, they have long arms too. A buddy I played high school with played in the NFL for a bit and hit 225 for 32 reps, though he was 6'7" 320, not 200lbs like NBA players of the same height.
Hmm, no. Calvin Johnson who has a 6'10 wingspan. J.J. Watt has a 6'10 wingspan. Those seem to be two of the biggest I can find. Durant has a 7'4 wingspan. Andre Drummond has a 7'6 wingspan. Anthony Davis has a 7'7 wingspan. Wilt Chamberlain had a 7'8 wingspan.
There is a very noticeable difference in body structures between the NFL and NBA.
About 72" (aka 6 feet.)
Does this qualify my arms as stubby? Will I ever play in the NBA?
Nate Robinson made it, but he has a 35.5 inch standing vert jump and a 44 inch running jump...0 -
I could do that on a trampoline perhaps maybe.uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »civilizedworm wrote: »
This got me curious, so I measured my wingspan at my office - may not be entirely accurate but close.uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »No_Finish_Line wrote: »interested to see how you do. Looks like I could play in the NBA then (if I was like 2 foot taller lol)
NBA players have significantly longer arms so they don't have good leverage to do a high weight bench press. Monta Ellis and Kevin Durant are two super star talents that can't bench 185 even once.
What... there are football players that are 6'7" and taller, they have long arms too. A buddy I played high school with played in the NFL for a bit and hit 225 for 32 reps, though he was 6'7" 320, not 200lbs like NBA players of the same height.
Hmm, no. Calvin Johnson who has a 6'10 wingspan. J.J. Watt has a 6'10 wingspan. Those seem to be two of the biggest I can find. Durant has a 7'4 wingspan. Andre Drummond has a 7'6 wingspan. Anthony Davis has a 7'7 wingspan. Wilt Chamberlain had a 7'8 wingspan.
There is a very noticeable difference in body structures between the NFL and NBA.
About 72" (aka 6 feet.)
Does this qualify my arms as stubby? Will I ever play in the NBA?
Nate Robinson made it, but he has a 35.5 inch standing vert jump and a 44 inch running jump...0 -
civilizedworm wrote: »
I could do that on a trampoline perhaps maybe.uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »civilizedworm wrote: »
This got me curious, so I measured my wingspan at my office - may not be entirely accurate but close.uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »No_Finish_Line wrote: »interested to see how you do. Looks like I could play in the NBA then (if I was like 2 foot taller lol)
NBA players have significantly longer arms so they don't have good leverage to do a high weight bench press. Monta Ellis and Kevin Durant are two super star talents that can't bench 185 even once.
What... there are football players that are 6'7" and taller, they have long arms too. A buddy I played high school with played in the NFL for a bit and hit 225 for 32 reps, though he was 6'7" 320, not 200lbs like NBA players of the same height.
Hmm, no. Calvin Johnson who has a 6'10 wingspan. J.J. Watt has a 6'10 wingspan. Those seem to be two of the biggest I can find. Durant has a 7'4 wingspan. Andre Drummond has a 7'6 wingspan. Anthony Davis has a 7'7 wingspan. Wilt Chamberlain had a 7'8 wingspan.
There is a very noticeable difference in body structures between the NFL and NBA.
About 72" (aka 6 feet.)
Does this qualify my arms as stubby? Will I ever play in the NBA?
Nate Robinson made it, but he has a 35.5 inch standing vert jump and a 44 inch running jump...
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civilizedworm wrote: »
I could do that on a trampoline perhaps maybe.uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »civilizedworm wrote: »
This got me curious, so I measured my wingspan at my office - may not be entirely accurate but close.uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »No_Finish_Line wrote: »interested to see how you do. Looks like I could play in the NBA then (if I was like 2 foot taller lol)
NBA players have significantly longer arms so they don't have good leverage to do a high weight bench press. Monta Ellis and Kevin Durant are two super star talents that can't bench 185 even once.
What... there are football players that are 6'7" and taller, they have long arms too. A buddy I played high school with played in the NFL for a bit and hit 225 for 32 reps, though he was 6'7" 320, not 200lbs like NBA players of the same height.
Hmm, no. Calvin Johnson who has a 6'10 wingspan. J.J. Watt has a 6'10 wingspan. Those seem to be two of the biggest I can find. Durant has a 7'4 wingspan. Andre Drummond has a 7'6 wingspan. Anthony Davis has a 7'7 wingspan. Wilt Chamberlain had a 7'8 wingspan.
There is a very noticeable difference in body structures between the NFL and NBA.
About 72" (aka 6 feet.)
Does this qualify my arms as stubby? Will I ever play in the NBA?
Nate Robinson made it, but he has a 35.5 inch standing vert jump and a 44 inch running jump...
I would need a crane at the very least.0 -
Since I broke my back and had a knee scope done I have not had both my feet off the ground at the same time in 2 years....Maybe time to try some jumps...lol0
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We had a high school football combine before my senior year of high school and I got 185 22-25 times (10 years ago, memory is foggy). At that time, my bench max was 365 with what amounted to terrible form since we were never really taught how to perform the movement in the best possible manner.
Since I started lifting again, my bench has gotten to 385. I tested 185 after doing that for AMRAP (As many reps as possible) and I hit 20 and stopped. I have done 225 for 16-18 reps before with maybe one or two left in the tank.
A lot of the numbers you see coming out of the combine are not what these guys are doing everyday. Once they finish their final season, they begin training for these test. This is their job interview and millions of dollars are on the line based on how they perform. They put months of time into training specifically for these test so they get a few more reps out of it than they would coming into it with no event specific training. Not to say that they aren't strong, they have to learn the best way to utilize their strength for the task at hand.
The correlation of 1rm to rep max depends on your normal training style as well as how your body utilizes your strength and stamina to perform the test. Someone with exactly the same numbers as you may not perform the exact same number of reps for those reasons.0 -
natecooper75 wrote: »We had a high school football combine before my senior year of high school and I got 185 22-25 times (10 years ago, memory is foggy). At that time, my bench max was 365 with what amounted to terrible form since we were never really taught how to perform the movement in the best possible manner.
Since I started lifting again, my bench has gotten to 385. I tested 185 after doing that for AMRAP (As many reps as possible) and I hit 20 and stopped. I have done 225 for 16-18 reps before with maybe one or two left in the tank.
A lot of the numbers you see coming out of the combine are not what these guys are doing everyday. Once they finish their final season, they begin training for these test. This is their job interview and millions of dollars are on the line based on how they perform. They put months of time into training specifically for these test so they get a few more reps out of it than they would coming into it with no event specific training. Not to say that they aren't strong, they have to learn the best way to utilize their strength for the task at hand.
The correlation of 1rm to rep max depends on your normal training style as well as how your body utilizes your strength and stamina to perform the test. Someone with exactly the same numbers as you may not perform the exact same number of reps for those reasons.
Great info thanks!0 -
Hey thanks for that... and that something I did not know that aspiring professional football athletes specifically train to impress with as many reps at the combine. I didn't play sports in high school so I really don't have that background. I skated and snowboarded and had goofy haircuts.natecooper75 wrote: »We had a high school football combine before my senior year of high school and I got 185 22-25 times (10 years ago, memory is foggy). At that time, my bench max was 365 with what amounted to terrible form since we were never really taught how to perform the movement in the best possible manner.
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A lot of the numbers you see coming out of the combine are not what these guys are doing everyday. Once they finish their final season, they begin training for these test. This is their job interview and millions of dollars are on the line based on how they perform. They put months of time into training specifically for these test so they get a few more reps out of it than they would coming into it with no event specific training. Not to say that they aren't strong, they have to learn the best way to utilize their strength for the task at hand.
Good point too.natecooper75 wrote: »The correlation of 1rm to rep max depends on your normal training style as well as how your body utilizes your strength and stamina to perform the test. Someone with exactly the same numbers as you may not perform the exact same number of reps for those reasons.
Those numbers are titanic! Nice!natecooper75 wrote: »Since I started lifting again, my bench has gotten to 385. I tested 185 after doing that for AMRAP (As many reps as possible) and I hit 20 and stopped. I have done 225 for 16-18 reps before with maybe one or two left in the tank.
I am willing to wager that your squat and deadlift have to be somewhere over four hondo approaching five?0 -
I did not read the whole thread, I just know that the number of times one can bench 225 does not always correlate into a particular 1 RM. I lifted with guys who could equal or even out rep me by 1-2 at lower weights yet my max was 40# higher than theirs.0
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Yep, we are not discussing 1RM.I did not read the whole thread, I just know that the number of times one can bench 225 does not always correlate into a particular 1 RM. I lifted with guys who could equal or even out rep me by 1-2 at lower weights yet my max was 40# higher than theirs.
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Just gave this a try and I barely made it through 7. My 1RM is about 285lb.0
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BenjaminMFP88 wrote: »Just gave this a try and I barely made it through 7. My 1RM is about 285lb.
That's very respectable.0 -
I only got it 5 times :sad:0
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Sweet. As Wheels said, very respectable.BenjaminMFP88 wrote: »Just gave this a try and I barely made it through 7. My 1RM is about 285lb.0 -
Thanks! But I'll be satisfied when my 1RM is 405!0
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Nothing to be ashamed of. I checked my last 1RM test day - three months ago (and the first time in, at least 7 years), and I only did 3 but I stopped prematurely since I was trying to save as much potential for heavier lifts. I had several warm-ups before that so, who knows.yopeeps025 wrote: »I only got it 5 times :sad:
Planning on testing on Wednesday next week.0 -
I hear you there. I'll be happy when I can reach 315 for my 1RM once agin.BenjaminMFP88 wrote: »Thanks! But I'll be satisfied when my 1RM is 405!
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civilizedworm wrote: »
I hear you there. I'll be happy when I can reach 315 for my 1RM once agin.BenjaminMFP88 wrote: »Thanks! But I'll be satisfied when my 1RM is 405!
My brother is 11 years older then I, and hit 455 a few months back and hasn't let me forget since... I will will not let him bench more for long!
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BenjaminMFP88 wrote: »civilizedworm wrote: »
I hear you there. I'll be happy when I can reach 315 for my 1RM once agin.BenjaminMFP88 wrote: »Thanks! But I'll be satisfied when my 1RM is 405!
My brother is 11 years older then I, and hit 455 a few months back and hasn't let me forget since... I will will not let him bench more for long!
Your 11 year old brother benches 455? Light weight.
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civilizedworm wrote: »
Nothing to be ashamed of. I checked my last 1RM test day - three months ago (and the first time in, at least 7 years), and I only did 3 but I stopped prematurely since I was trying to save as much potential for heavier lifts. I had several warm-ups before that so, who knows.yopeeps025 wrote: »I only got it 5 times :sad:
Planning on testing on Wednesday next week.
I guess since my pec tore on 190x5.
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Yeah I read that. How do you safeguard against in the future? I can only imagine the rehab/pain you've gone through. Sucks.yopeeps025 wrote: »civilizedworm wrote: »
Nothing to be ashamed of. I checked my last 1RM test day - three months ago (and the first time in, at least 7 years), and I only did 3 but I stopped prematurely since I was trying to save as much potential for heavier lifts. I had several warm-ups before that so, who knows.yopeeps025 wrote: »I only got it 5 times :sad:
Planning on testing on Wednesday next week.
I guess since my pec tore on 190x5.0 -
civilizedworm wrote: »
Yeah I read that. How do you safeguard against in the future? I can only imagine the rehab/pain you've gone through. Sucks.yopeeps025 wrote: »civilizedworm wrote: »
Nothing to be ashamed of. I checked my last 1RM test day - three months ago (and the first time in, at least 7 years), and I only did 3 but I stopped prematurely since I was trying to save as much potential for heavier lifts. I had several warm-ups before that so, who knows.yopeeps025 wrote: »I only got it 5 times :sad:
Planning on testing on Wednesday next week.
I guess since my pec tore on 190x5.
I narrowed my grip. I use to always flare my elbows at 90 degrees and not round 45. I used to bring the bar down too high up closer to my neck and not abs. I had bad form plus a recurring high school shoulder injury. Doctor said it was bound to happen since I touch my chest on bench. Hah a lot of scare tissue he made claims to have to really put the muscle to connect it during surgery.
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