diet (soda) pop hindered weight loss

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  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Butrovich wrote: »
    @Sarauk2sf
    "How is this relevant to the OP?"

    If you read the article in the link, it states the artificial sweeteners inhibit weight loss. Since the OP has started drinking diet soda and is no longer losing weight, I would say there is relevancy.

    I did read the link. It does not show or imply a causal effect. OP is tracking her calories. Again I ask, how is this link relevant?. Also, see my response to the answer Gale gave (much the same as yours).

    Did you also note the length of time of the stall?
    Did you also note that the OP had increased their activity?

    Context.

    Butrovich it seems the issue is Sarauk2sf does not like science that overwrites her personal opinions.
  • amcook4
    amcook4 Posts: 561 Member
    My registered Dietitian told me I can keep drinking it, and so far I've lost 59 pounds and I drink one average at least 1-2 a day. Tell me again how something with no calories is ruining my weight loss? It is something else that is the problem, probably not logging foods accurately.
  • exstromn
    exstromn Posts: 176 Member
    Good morning! Research suggests that the artificial sweeteners in diet soda or in ANYTHING fools your body into thinking you are going to be getting real sugar when that artificial sweetener is consumed. When this happens, your body produces an insulin response. The release of insulin causes existing blood sugars circulating in your body to be stored in fat cells in preparation for what it thinks is more real sugar energy coming in. If you consume artificial sweeteners, your body will eventually lose its natural ability to to respond to real sugar, which is the ability to eat less at the next meal and use or burn the sugar energy circulating in your blood from the previous meal. Therefore, you may have trouble loosing or gain weight as a result because your body will want to store more of your blood sugars in fat cells. What’s a girl to do? You want your sweets and artificial sweeteners seem like a great solution, right? My answer is this: eliminate ALL artificial sweeteners from your diet as best you can and DO NOT choose them. Wean yourself of refined sugar cravings by eating foods that contain naturally occurring sugars, i.e. whole fruits. And most importantly, drink a minimum of eight 8 ounce glasses of water every day. Many people confuse thirst with hunger. And lastly, those multiple chemicals can harm you. They are not natural and the diet industry in my humble layman's opinion just wants your money. Anything worth having takes work to accomplish. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. Do the work. Have a great day and good luck with your journey:)
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  • MakePeasNotWar
    MakePeasNotWar Posts: 1,329 Member
    Did the weight gain/plateau come after you started playing hockey? It sounds like you may be storing more glycogen and mitochondrial fluid in your muscles. It's not fat, just extra fluids.

    If I haven't been exercising and I start doing weights or very high-intensity cardio I gain between three and 7 pounds in the first two weeks. Then it levels off and I start losing from the calorie expenditure.

    Give it another week or two before you start to worry.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    exstromn wrote: »
    Good morning! Research suggests that the artificial sweeteners in diet soda or in ANYTHING fools your body into thinking you are going to be getting real sugar when that artificial sweetener is consumed. When this happens, your body produces an insulin response. The release of insulin causes existing blood sugars circulating in your body to be stored in fat cells in preparation for what it thinks is more real sugar energy coming in. If you consume artificial sweeteners, your body will eventually lose its natural ability to to respond to real sugar, which is the ability to eat less at the next meal and use or burn the sugar energy circulating in your blood from the previous meal. Therefore, you may have trouble loosing or gain weight as a result because your body will want to store more of your blood sugars in fat cells. What’s a girl to do? You want your sweets and artificial sweeteners seem like a great solution, right? My answer is this: eliminate ALL artificial sweeteners from your diet as best you can and DO NOT choose them. Wean yourself of refined sugar cravings by eating foods that contain naturally occurring sugars, i.e. whole fruits. And most importantly, drink a minimum of eight 8 ounce glasses of water every day. Many people confuse thirst with hunger. And lastly, those multiple chemicals can harm you. They are not natural and the diet industry in my humble layman's opinion just wants your money. Anything worth having takes work to accomplish. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. Do the work. Have a great day and good luck with your journey:)

    Please cite where you are getting all this from. This is basically contrary to what I have seen...for basically every point you have made.
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
    What's with the weird post at the bottom of this thread? I can't read it, quote it, flag it, or report it but it's always there.
  • lishie_rebooted
    lishie_rebooted Posts: 2,973 Member
    What's with the weird post at the bottom of this thread? I can't read it, quote it, flag it, or report it but it's always there.

    It happened last week in that gym selfie thread.
    I think it's a post from someone who has had their posting privileges taken away
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    What's with the weird post at the bottom of this thread? I can't read it, quote it, flag it, or report it but it's always there.

    I am pretty sure it is Gale Hawkins trying to post. For whatever reason he looks like he has his posting privileges revoked - either temporarily or permanently.

    I have seen it before in another thread where the OP was banned from posting.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Did the weight gain/plateau come after you started playing hockey? It sounds like you may be storing more glycogen and mitochondrial fluid in your muscles. It's not fat, just extra fluids.

    If I haven't been exercising and I start doing weights or very high-intensity cardio I gain between three and 7 pounds in the first two weeks. Then it levels off and I start losing from the calorie expenditure.

    Give it another week or two before you start to worry.

    Yep. I posted this earlier but it got lost in all the 'diet soda will make you gain weight' palava. Sometimes its a simple answer and this is the most likely one. The OP has only been stalled a week.



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  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
    ktm96 wrote: »
    But even if 1200 would be too little.....wouldnt I still lose weight? I'm at a deficit. I weigh 130 pounds and my goal is to get to 125. Its been really really hard to get to. I am 5"5. And YES. i weigh my food on a scale.

    MFP app has a flaw. If you set it up to lose 2 pounds (or even 1 pound in some cases) it does not go lower than 1200 and does not print out a warning that this calculation is based on a the safe minimum, not on the actual 2 (or 1) pound calculation. At such a low weight, you are likely to lose much less than what MFP says you would on 1200 diet. This small loss could very easily be masked by the slightest water retention and it may look like you aren't losing when you are. Give yourself a month or two and see where you stand.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    exstromn wrote: »
    Good morning! Research suggests that the artificial sweeteners in diet soda or in ANYTHING fools your body into thinking you are going to be getting real sugar when that artificial sweetener is consumed. When this happens, your body produces an insulin response. The release of insulin causes existing blood sugars circulating in your body to be stored in fat cells in preparation for what it thinks is more real sugar energy coming in. If you consume artificial sweeteners, your body will eventually lose its natural ability to to respond to real sugar, which is the ability to eat less at the next meal and use or burn the sugar energy circulating in your blood from the previous meal. Therefore, you may have trouble loosing or gain weight as a result because your body will want to store more of your blood sugars in fat cells. What’s a girl to do? You want your sweets and artificial sweeteners seem like a great solution, right? My answer is this: eliminate ALL artificial sweeteners from your diet as best you can and DO NOT choose them. Wean yourself of refined sugar cravings by eating foods that contain naturally occurring sugars, i.e. whole fruits. And most importantly, drink a minimum of eight 8 ounce glasses of water every day. Many people confuse thirst with hunger. And lastly, those multiple chemicals can harm you. They are not natural and the diet industry in my humble layman's opinion just wants your money. Anything worth having takes work to accomplish. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. Do the work. Have a great day and good luck with your journey:)

    exstromn that was a great post. Yesterday on some thread I posted links to the science research but some are not interested in the facts. Like the saying, The truth shall set one free but first it will make one angry.

  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Diet sodas are terrible for you. Yes, many women in my family cannot lose weight if drinking them. All of us are off diet sodas and losing. The chemicals in them are detrimental to everyone's health and weight loss to many.

    My doctor says that she has consistently seen patients lose ten pounds simply by giving up diet soda. The chemicals in it seriously screw with your body.

    Riggghhhhttttt.........

    Calories in/calories out.

    Stop drinking diet soda and replace it with food (calories) and you will gain weight if that calorie count goes over your TDEE.

    I don't drink diet soda because my body doesn't like all that caffeine, and I don't like decaffeinated soda.
  • exstromn
    exstromn Posts: 176 Member
    As a friend often reminds me...you've got a mind, so make it up for your self:)
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    jmawds3 wrote: »
    Has anyone mentioned that 1200 may be too few calories? I'm not sure how much you weigh or how tall you are, but 1200 calories is just barely enough calories to survive everyday, especially with the addition of ANY exercise! Your metabolism may be slowing down. I'll echo everyone and say that diet soda isn't great for you, but it seems like your problems may be eating too little! Try upping your intake to 1400-1500 hundred for a few days and see what happens!

    No, the OP would lose weight eating 1200 calories.
  • NikonPal
    NikonPal Posts: 1,346 Member
    ktm96 wrote: »
    Ever since I've added diet pop to my diet I have not been able to lose weight-I have been at a 1200 calorie diet, and am strictly counting everything, there is no way possible i am going over my calorie intake. Anyone experience hindered weight loss when they added diet pop to their diets?

    I drink 2 – 8 oz bottles of Diet Coke most days on a low-calorie intake. Not sure how much you are drinking, but moderate drinking hasn’t hurt me a bit (I’m currently down 164 lbs)
  • RllyGudTweetr
    RllyGudTweetr Posts: 2,019 Member
    Diet sodas are terrible for you. Yes, many women in my family cannot lose weight if drinking them. All of us are off diet sodas and losing. The chemicals in them are detrimental to everyone's health and weight loss to many.

    My doctor says that she has consistently seen patients lose ten pounds simply by giving up diet soda. The chemicals in it seriously screw with your body.

    What's your doctor's specific background in nutrition? For many, it's a single segment within a single class.

    How is your doctor verifying that giving up diet soda is the only variable that these patients who lose weight altered in order to achieve that result? Is the doctor personally watching these patients 24/7 to verify that other food intake, and exercise output, remains at a constant to what it was when the patients were drinking diet soda?
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    I'm chugging a 2L of generic diet cola, mixed with a packet of knock-off Crystal Light flavouring powder.

    Does this mean I'm going to die?
  • meganjcallaghan
    meganjcallaghan Posts: 949 Member
    I've lost 'round about 175 pounds, all the while drinking that stuff like it's going out of style. It's not the issue. Don't listen to the broscience and look for the real culprit instead.
  • grantwashere
    grantwashere Posts: 171 Member
    I believe you may be having issues with losing weight but I don't believe that diet pop had anything to do with it whatsoever. I drink it daily. Oftentimes, I drink it with bourbon in it. I'm still losing weight. As others have said, look to WEIGHING your food. You are consuming more calories than you are burning somehow.
  • Abstraktimus
    Abstraktimus Posts: 213 Member
    UmmSqueaky wrote: »
    I drink an ungodly amount of diet soda. My dentist would love me if I quit. Bad for my teeth, but hasn't hindered my weight loss one bit - 82 pounds down in a year and counting.
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Diet sodas are terrible for you. Yes, many women in my family cannot lose weight if drinking them. All of us are off diet sodas and losing. The chemicals in them are detrimental to everyone's health and weight loss to many.

    Which chemicals are harmful and/or stop weight loss and what do they do to you exactly?

    Greed chloride Lack of self control monoxide.
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    ktm96 wrote: »
    It must be something else then......it just I've been on a 1200 calorie diet for the past 3 weeks-and yes, i weigh my food, and I started at 132....then down to 127.....now I've been at 130 for the past week.....its just really annoying. I SHOULD be at 126 right now but I'm 130.......what can I do? I just started playing ice hockey.....maybe I'm gaining muscle in my legs? Idk though because I only play for about 20 minutes total a game and one game per week for the last month. I skate really hard and fast though and I'm tired in my legs afterward and the day after......still though.......I should be losing SOME fat.

    It's not the diet soda. Weight loss is not linear. You have not gained any appreciable muscle, if any, by playing ice hockey. You may well be retaining water in the muscle though if this is a new type of activity for you - which will be masking any loss.

    I don't know who flagged this entirely useful and neutral post, but I'm just going to drop off this link to the explanation of when and how to use the flagging system in case someone needs to review it.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10019264/flagged-content-reported-posts-warning-points

    ^And that's my sixth flag for discussing and/or pointing out how to use the flag feature on these boards. Granted, this one was a little more passive aggressive than others, but it still doesn't fall under the guidelines of what the mods have asked us to flag.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    UmmSqueaky wrote: »
    I drink an ungodly amount of diet soda. My dentist would love me if I quit. Bad for my teeth, but hasn't hindered my weight loss one bit - 82 pounds down in a year and counting.
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Diet sodas are terrible for you. Yes, many women in my family cannot lose weight if drinking them. All of us are off diet sodas and losing. The chemicals in them are detrimental to everyone's health and weight loss to many.

    Which chemicals are harmful and/or stop weight loss and what do they do to you exactly?

    Greed chloride Lack of self control monoxide.

    Oh my gosh, this had me.....

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  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
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  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    UmmSqueaky wrote: »
    I drink an ungodly amount of diet soda. My dentist would love me if I quit. Bad for my teeth, but hasn't hindered my weight loss one bit - 82 pounds down in a year and counting.
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Diet sodas are terrible for you. Yes, many women in my family cannot lose weight if drinking them. All of us are off diet sodas and losing. The chemicals in them are detrimental to everyone's health and weight loss to many.

    Which chemicals are harmful and/or stop weight loss and what do they do to you exactly?

    Greed chloride Lack of self control monoxide.

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  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    dat dere insulin spike will get you every time
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    marie3221 wrote: »


    Yes, that's already been posted and is not even relevant to the specifics of the OP.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    edited December 2014
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    ktm96 wrote: »
    It must be something else then......it just I've been on a 1200 calorie diet for the past 3 weeks-and yes, i weigh my food, and I started at 132....then down to 127.....now I've been at 130 for the past week.....its just really annoying. I SHOULD be at 126 right now but I'm 130.......what can I do? I just started playing ice hockey.....maybe I'm gaining muscle in my legs? Idk though because I only play for about 20 minutes total a game and one game per week for the last month. I skate really hard and fast though and I'm tired in my legs afterward and the day after......still though.......I should be losing SOME fat.

    It's not the diet soda. Weight loss is not linear. You have not gained any appreciable muscle, if any, by playing ice hockey. You may well be retaining water in the muscle though if this is a new type of activity for you - which will be masking any loss.

    I don't know who flagged this entirely useful and neutral post, but I'm just going to drop off this link to the explanation of when and how to use the flagging system in case someone needs to review it.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10019264/flagged-content-reported-posts-warning-points

    ^And that's my sixth flag for discussing and/or pointing out how to use the flag feature on these boards. Granted, this one was a little more passive aggressive than others, but it still doesn't fall under the guidelines of what the mods have asked us to flag.

    I have 2 spam flags now - not sure what post the 2nd one is on. Plus another abuse one. This flag system is working great!!

    lol....found it - its my post I mentioned I had a post flagged as spam.
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