diet (soda) pop hindered weight loss

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  • ButtBagg
    ButtBagg Posts: 25
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    r u sure you arent over eating on your calories? you dont have to eat a lot to eat over your calories
  • SomeNights246
    SomeNights246 Posts: 807 Member
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    Vitaphobia wrote: »
    I am not a dietitian but I've heard of diet sodas being worse for you than regular soda. something about the type of sugar increases the chance of binges.

    There is no sugar in diet soda. And I have not had my chances of binges increased by drinking it. In fact, I find it does the exact opposite of increasing my appetite, and have to avoid it for that reason. Of course everyone is different. Important to remember though that
    1) Correlation is not causation
    2) Power of suggestion is strong
  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
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    pincushion14 wrote: »
    Y'all can continue, but I'm just gonna leave this here... *whistling*
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    I laughed at this way harder than I probably should have.
  • SomeNights246
    SomeNights246 Posts: 807 Member
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    exstromn wrote: »
    Good morning! Research suggests that the artificial sweeteners in diet soda or in ANYTHING fools your body into thinking you are going to be getting real sugar when that artificial sweetener is consumed. When this happens, your body produces an insulin response. The release of insulin causes existing blood sugars circulating in your body to be stored in fat cells in preparation for what it thinks is more real sugar energy coming in. If you consume artificial sweeteners, your body will eventually lose its natural ability to to respond to real sugar, which is the ability to eat less at the next meal and use or burn the sugar energy circulating in your blood from the previous meal. Therefore, you may have trouble loosing or gain weight as a result because your body will want to store more of your blood sugars in fat cells. What’s a girl to do? You want your sweets and artificial sweeteners seem like a great solution, right? My answer is this: eliminate ALL artificial sweeteners from your diet as best you can and DO NOT choose them. Wean yourself of refined sugar cravings by eating foods that contain naturally occurring sugars, i.e. whole fruits. And most importantly, drink a minimum of eight 8 ounce glasses of water every day. Many people confuse thirst with hunger. And lastly, those multiple chemicals can harm you. They are not natural and the diet industry in my humble layman's opinion just wants your money. Anything worth having takes work to accomplish. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. Do the work. Have a great day and good luck with your journey:)

    Good grief.
  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
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    Diet soda has had zero effect on my weight.
  • ElizabethMaryam
    ElizabethMaryam Posts: 159 Member
    edited December 2014
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    Out of curiousity, I googled the topic of artificial sweetners and news and found links that the earlier commenter may have been referring to. I think it's too early to make a statement on the subject; as IMO more studies would be necessary. They refer to one study of more than 200+ people and another one (which seems to be the main one being referred to in the news articles) involved only 7 people. This is just FYI for anyone wanting to read the info. As usual, the scientific studies (first 2 links) just provide an abstract, unless you have a paid membership. I find the subject interesting as my dad is diabetic and uses artificial sweetners.

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v514/n7521/full/nature13752.html

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v514/n7521/full/nature13793.html

    https://www.sciencenews.org/article/artificial-sweeteners-may-tip-scales-toward-metabolic-problems

    http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/health/artificial-sweeteners-linked-to-obesity-epidemic-scientists-say-1.2769196

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/well/2014/09/17/artificial-sweeteners-may-disrupt-bodys-blood-sugar-controls/

    https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/scicurious/sour-side-artificial-sweeteners
  • ljones27uk
    ljones27uk Posts: 177 Member
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    i drink diet cola and have been losing weight consistently over last 4 months.. dont think its the diet drinks that are an issue
  • ElizabethMaryam
    ElizabethMaryam Posts: 159 Member
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    herrspoons wrote: »
    ElizabethMaryam wrote: »
    Out of curiousity, I googled the topic of artificial sweetners and news and found links that the earlier commenter may have been referring to. I think it's too early to make a statement on the subject; as IMO more studies would be necessary. They refer to one study of more than 200+ people and another one (which seems to be the main one being referred to in the news articles) involved only 7 people. This is just FYI for anyone wanting to read the info. As usual, the scientific studies (first 2 links) just provide an abstract, unless you have a paid membership. I find the subject interesting as my dad is diabetic and uses artificial sweetners.

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v514/n7521/full/nature13752.html

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v514/n7521/full/nature13793.html

    https://www.sciencenews.org/article/artificial-sweeteners-may-tip-scales-toward-metabolic-problems

    http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/health/artificial-sweeteners-linked-to-obesity-epidemic-scientists-say-1.2769196

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/well/2014/09/17/artificial-sweeteners-may-disrupt-bodys-blood-sugar-controls/

    https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/scicurious/sour-side-artificial-sweeteners

    The bottom line on these studies is summed up by an extract from one of the papers:
    In other words, although these sweetners do not contribute directly to weight gain, they may have indirect effects on weight and fat accumulation by affecting the mechanism regulated by intestinal bacteria.

    So a lot of maybes, ifs and buts.

    Dr Sharma covers it quite well:

    http://www.drsharma.ca/what-can-we-learn-from-the-sweetener-and-gut-bug-study.html

    There are a lot more plausible culprits than sweeteners out there. Of course, that didn't stop the usual anti-sugar loony brigade jumping all over these preliminary findings.

    Thanks for pointing that out. Good to know. :)
  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
    edited December 2014
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    I gave up diet soda around the time I joined myfitnesspal 2.5 years ago and then lost 39 pounds, went from 140 pounds to 101. I'm now 107'ish. 101 was too low. I'm not really sure if it's the diet soda that made a difference or not. I failed to lose weight before that though. There could easily be something else causing it and sometimes I'm concerned there might even be something wrong with me causing it, but that was on one minor change I made that I hadn't made before. Kept it around this weight range for 1.5 years now and I stopped logging long ago. So, I'm basically at the weight I was when I was 18 through early 20's again and I'm 40.

    My view is that diet soda is not exactly healthy regardless, so why not give it up and drink more water instead?
  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
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    pincushion14 wrote: »
    I just got my first flag! For profanity!
    "I've been warned."
    Took long enough. Now I can join the Cool Kids Club too.

    don't you mean you got your first warning? cause flags are rampant here. it's just when a poster is moody enough to flag your post. they don't mean anything. it's the official warnings by mods that do mean something.
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
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    BFDeal wrote: »
    Don't call soda pop.

    Cool, the grammar police are here.
  • LianaG1115
    LianaG1115 Posts: 453 Member
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    ktm96 wrote: »
    Ever since I've added diet pop to my diet I have not been able to lose weight-I have been at a 1200 calorie diet, and am strictly counting everything, there is no way possible i am going over my calorie intake. Anyone experience hindered weight loss when they added diet pop to their diets?

    Why you drinking that stuff anyways?? The stuff is toxic and not good for you because of the effects of asparatame. You're safer (not really but...) to drink regular soda!! Really no soda is good for you...
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,943 Member
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    LianaG1115 wrote: »
    ktm96 wrote: »
    Ever since I've added diet pop to my diet I have not been able to lose weight-I have been at a 1200 calorie diet, and am strictly counting everything, there is no way possible i am going over my calorie intake. Anyone experience hindered weight loss when they added diet pop to their diets?

    Why you drinking that stuff anyways?? The stuff is toxic and not good for you because of the effects of asparatame. You're safer (not really but...) to drink regular soda!! Really no soda is good for you...

    That's not true. Aspartame does not have an effect on everybody, but perhaps some people.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,943 Member
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    Aviva92 wrote: »
    pincushion14 wrote: »
    I just got my first flag! For profanity!
    "I've been warned."
    Took long enough. Now I can join the Cool Kids Club too.

    don't you mean you got your first warning? cause flags are rampant here. it's just when a poster is moody enough to flag your post. they don't mean anything. it's the official warnings by mods that do mean something.

    They are ignoring flags right now. If a post really is over the line, the best thing to do is use the report option. Flagging is silly as it gets for abuse if some people don't like you answer they flag that person for abuse.
  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
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    SLLRunner wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    pincushion14 wrote: »
    I just got my first flag! For profanity!
    "I've been warned."
    Took long enough. Now I can join the Cool Kids Club too.

    don't you mean you got your first warning? cause flags are rampant here. it's just when a poster is moody enough to flag your post. they don't mean anything. it's the official warnings by mods that do mean something.

    They are ignoring flags right now. If a post really is over the line, the best thing to do is use the report option. Flagging is silly as it gets for abuse if some people don't like you answer they flag that person for abuse.

    yeah, i know. you can actually do both though. the flags should probably be done away with because they really accomplish nothing other than for actual spam.

    i think they said that for actual spam type posts to use the flag button because they disappear quicker if they get 5 flags. just reporting those posts will require a mod to look at it to make it disappear.
  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
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    to me the flags just say "i don't like you and i want you to know that!!!!"
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
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    I wish there were a way to see which of our posts get flagged. I'd love to know where I got flagged for spam. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
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    maidentl wrote: »
    I wish there were a way to see which of our posts get flagged. I'd love to know where I got flagged for spam. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

    I noticed a few of my flags when they happened. They were never for anything all that outlandish. People just like to complain.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    edited December 2014
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    LianaG1115 wrote: »
    ktm96 wrote: »
    Ever since I've added diet pop to my diet I have not been able to lose weight-I have been at a 1200 calorie diet, and am strictly counting everything, there is no way possible i am going over my calorie intake. Anyone experience hindered weight loss when they added diet pop to their diets?

    Why you drinking that stuff anyways?? The stuff is toxic and not good for you because of the effects of asparatame. You're safer (not really but...) to drink regular soda!! Really no soda is good for you...

    Aspartame is protein. There's as much aspartame in 4 oz of chicken breast as there is in 25 cans of diet soda.

    So... chicken breast is 25 times more toxic than diet soda?

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