women who dont shave
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i think it's their body and they have a right to shave or not shave, whatever makes them happy. it's none of my business.
personally i shave because it's my boyfriend's preference. if it were up to me, i'd probably only shave if i knew i were going to be out in public with my legs/armpits exposed. i don't like to draw attention to myself, and shaving seems to be the path of least resistance socially.0 -
I'm in the "as long as she is clean, I don't care if she shaves" group. The main issue is the feeling during the stubble phase, but heck, my face goes through that when I let my beard grow out, so...0
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@malavika413 - I feel your pain and I'm so sorry. Boob fairy hit me wicked hard in 3rd grade, didn't get bras until much later. Between that and cystic acne, hair, and weight gain, my childhood was not very fun. Young people are probably the worst with these kinds of things!0
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I barely grow body hair, armpits= a spot about the size of a quarter and legs= hand print size patch on my inner calves, so it takes about 2 minutes to shave. I prefer shaven, but I guess for some it may be a burden.0
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PurringMyrrh wrote: »I knew a guy who raced bicycles and used to shave his legs because of it. I never really understood how that helped so if any boys here have an answer to that, I'd be curious to know the reason. I can't imagine it being an aerodynamic thing no matter how hairy your legs are.
Had to weigh in on this. First, it actually is, or can be, a fairly large aerodynamic aid. Something on the order of 70 seconds over a standard 40k Time Trial. In the cycling world, that's a huge time savings. People spend literally thousands on equipment to get time savings a fraction the size of this. Here's a video discussing the recent test if anybody cares.
The other commonly mentioned reasons for cyclists at least are massage being more comfortable (this is coming from pro cyclists who get massages frequently, but amateurs wanting to "be Pro" means it trickles down) and more importantly, wound care and reducing infection since bike racers frequently have road rash on the legs from crashes.
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I still think you are being pretty judgmental.
What's wrong with having a personal preference? We apply preferences all the time to select mates - and friends even. That's human nature.
Personal preferences are great. Holding others to a standard that you don't hold yourself to is not.
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RisingAboveIt wrote: »
I still think you are being pretty judgmental.
What's wrong with having a personal preference? We apply preferences all the time to select mates - and friends even. That's human nature.
Personal preferences are great. Holding others to a standard that you don't hold yourself to is not.
So you feel that a guy who doesn't shave but wants his GF to shave is doing that?
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radiosilents wrote: »I am so glad that some people are speaking up about this in a positive way for those who choose not to shave. I am one of those women, mainly because it annoys me all to h*ll that there is this double standard. Men can have hair wherever, but women are expected to be hairless and smooth everywhere? People, we are all animals. Some of us have more "fur" than others naturally. I suppose living in this culture I wish I was less hairy, but I'm not. I'm SO sorry that my forearm hair grosses you out, man! *rolls eyes* A lifetime of knowing this is what many people think causes me to almost always wear long sleeves.
I am hairier than my male partner of 15 years, and he doesn't give a crap. Maybe it's a punk thing?
I don't shave my legs or armpits because I think the double standard is for the birds. That said, I generally don't expose it because of my own issues – not because I think it is gross, because I don't, but I guess because I don't feel like dealing with stares and snickers.
Just so you all know, some women even have hairy faces! *gasp* And it's sometimes just because that's how they are, not because of a hormonal imbalance or anything else. On that subject, I think many more women have facial hair than any of us could know because it is SO taboo. I'm going to be frank here, because why not? I have to shave my face every day. It sucks, but here is something I probably absolutely HAVE to do so I don't look like a circus sideshow. I actually did let it grow for a while when I was at college (one that was VERY liberal and arty), and no one ever said boo to me about it. If only all the world was like that! It was an interesting experiment. Again, my partner knows about it but it doesn't bother him.
Get a life, people. It's HAIR.
ohh satan do i ever love this post
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Um, NO. I don't smell weird. I bathe and use deodorant. Problem solved. Do men with hair smell weird? If they don't practice good personal hygiene, then yes, they will. How is that hard to understand?0
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salembambi wrote: »radiosilents wrote: »I am so glad that some people are speaking up about this in a positive way for those who choose not to shave. I am one of those women, mainly because it annoys me all to h*ll that there is this double standard. Men can have hair wherever, but women are expected to be hairless and smooth everywhere? People, we are all animals. Some of us have more "fur" than others naturally. I suppose living in this culture I wish I was less hairy, but I'm not. I'm SO sorry that my forearm hair grosses you out, man! *rolls eyes* A lifetime of knowing this is what many people think causes me to almost always wear long sleeves.
I am hairier than my male partner of 15 years, and he doesn't give a crap. Maybe it's a punk thing?
I don't shave my legs or armpits because I think the double standard is for the birds. That said, I generally don't expose it because of my own issues – not because I think it is gross, because I don't, but I guess because I don't feel like dealing with stares and snickers.
Just so you all know, some women even have hairy faces! *gasp* And it's sometimes just because that's how they are, not because of a hormonal imbalance or anything else. On that subject, I think many more women have facial hair than any of us could know because it is SO taboo. I'm going to be frank here, because why not? I have to shave my face every day. It sucks, but here is something I probably absolutely HAVE to do so I don't look like a circus sideshow. I actually did let it grow for a while when I was at college (one that was VERY liberal and arty), and no one ever said boo to me about it. If only all the world was like that! It was an interesting experiment. Again, my partner knows about it but it doesn't bother him.
Get a life, people. It's HAIR.
ohh satan do i ever love this post
Thank you. I usually don't talk about my facial hair, but you know, if more people did, fewer women would have to feel ashamed.0 -
burn your bras! throw away your razors!0
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I shave more than my wife does0
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really, though, who cares? it doesn't matter at all. if someone is going to comment on any aspect of my appearance or like not be my friend(?) because of something so stupid, they are most likely not worth anybody's time in the first place.0
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Hey thanks so much for this! I genuinely was curious. I knew even a fraction of a second counted but couldn't fathom it even making that much of a difference! The medical necessity of it didn't even occur to me. Durf.PurringMyrrh wrote: »I knew a guy who raced bicycles and used to shave his legs because of it. I never really understood how that helped so if any boys here have an answer to that, I'd be curious to know the reason. I can't imagine it being an aerodynamic thing no matter how hairy your legs are.
Had to weigh in on this. First, it actually is, or can be, a fairly large aerodynamic aid. Something on the order of 70 seconds over a standard 40k Time Trial. In the cycling world, that's a huge time savings. People spend literally thousands on equipment to get time savings a fraction the size of this. Here's a video discussing the recent test if anybody cares.
The other commonly mentioned reasons for cyclists at least are massage being more comfortable (this is coming from pro cyclists who get massages frequently, but amateurs wanting to "be Pro" means it trickles down) and more importantly, wound care and reducing infection since bike racers frequently have road rash on the legs from crashes.
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radiosilents wrote: »salembambi wrote: »radiosilents wrote: »I am so glad that some people are speaking up about this in a positive way for those who choose not to shave. I am one of those women, mainly because it annoys me all to h*ll that there is this double standard. Men can have hair wherever, but women are expected to be hairless and smooth everywhere? People, we are all animals. Some of us have more "fur" than others naturally. I suppose living in this culture I wish I was less hairy, but I'm not. I'm SO sorry that my forearm hair grosses you out, man! *rolls eyes* A lifetime of knowing this is what many people think causes me to almost always wear long sleeves.
I am hairier than my male partner of 15 years, and he doesn't give a crap. Maybe it's a punk thing?
I don't shave my legs or armpits because I think the double standard is for the birds. That said, I generally don't expose it because of my own issues – not because I think it is gross, because I don't, but I guess because I don't feel like dealing with stares and snickers.
Just so you all know, some women even have hairy faces! *gasp* And it's sometimes just because that's how they are, not because of a hormonal imbalance or anything else. On that subject, I think many more women have facial hair than any of us could know because it is SO taboo. I'm going to be frank here, because why not? I have to shave my face every day. It sucks, but here is something I probably absolutely HAVE to do so I don't look like a circus sideshow. I actually did let it grow for a while when I was at college (one that was VERY liberal and arty), and no one ever said boo to me about it. If only all the world was like that! It was an interesting experiment. Again, my partner knows about it but it doesn't bother him.
Get a life, people. It's HAIR.
ohh satan do i ever love this post
Thank you. I usually don't talk about my facial hair, but you know, if more people did, fewer women would have to feel ashamed.
I wax my upper lip once every month and a half. I could probably let it go longer but.. my skin is pale and my hair is dark..so it would be pretty noticeable. We bohemians are a hairy bunch. My grandmother sports a fuzzy chin and lip. She's 92 and there are no f***s given.0 -
PurringMyrrh wrote: »
Yes I do but not cleanly shaven. There are parts that should be kept clean like the pits and other parts where just a trim would do it for men.
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PurringMyrrh wrote: »
Yes I do but not cleanly shaven. There are parts that should be kept clean like the pits and other parts where just a trim would do it for men.
>other parts where just a trim would do it for men
>for men
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bettering_madison wrote: »PurringMyrrh wrote: »
Yes I do but not cleanly shaven. There are parts that should be kept clean like the pits and other parts where just a trim would do it for men.
>other parts where just a trim would do it for men
>for men
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Trimming chest hair for example. Don't see many woman with chest hair regardless. Nothing misogynistic was meant in my post, don't take it out of context.
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I didn't take it out of context..
I also never claimed that you were being misogynistic.0 -
In general. Just wanted to clarify that before I get flamed ITT.0
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FabulousFantasticFifty wrote: »Some of us have very little armpit hair and get away with plucking or even bleaching. Wish it was that easy for the legs!buckshot500 wrote: »Lady hair doesn't bother me, as long as she's not a damn wookie.
I ain't trying to get a handful of Chewbacca butt.
DON'T HATE ME BECAUSE I'M BEAUTIFUL!!!
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Dared2Evolve wrote: »
You'd think the rhinestones would wear off in a short amount of time0 -
My very first reply to you was just being a sarcastic turd.PurringMyrrh wrote: »
Yes I do but not cleanly shaven. There are parts that should be kept clean like the pits and other parts where just a trim would do it for men.
Friends? I'll shave your back if you'll shave mine. *bats eyelashes*
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AgentRomanova wrote: »Seems to be a body hair double standard these days.
LOL. How can you even begin to count the double-standards in life?
Having worked in a heavily male-dominated (and frankly, grubby) industry for my entire career, I've decided that I truly enjoy being "feminine". After working all day in a hard hat and steel-toed shoes, I'm ready to be a girl again.
Granted, what makes one feel feminine varies widely. It can be aesthetic.
For me personally shaving is one of the rituals of being a woman that I enjoy regularly.
It makes my skin very smooth, and whether you like it or not, hair provides surface area for bacterial growth, which can cause odor.
I enjoy putting on makeup but it's not something I do daily (it would just run off) or nearly as often as I shave.
I find interesting the backlash against shaving (or I should say against other women's preference FOR shaving) by women wearing heavy makeup (again, I love makeup it just seems interesting). Granted this is just judging by avatar and perhaps they don't actually wear it in real life? But if you do wear it, some could consider that a construct much the same as the introduction of shaving to women.
As for men who prefer women to be shaved...well I really really do not find a full beard attractive (or would not want to be physically close and rubbing on a full beard). I don't see that as a heck of a lot different.
Each to their own I guess.0 -
I enjoy putting on makeup but it's not something I do daily (it would just run off) or nearly as often as I shave.
I find interesting the backlash against shaving (or I should say against other women's preference FOR shaving) by women wearing heavy makeup (again, I love makeup it just seems interesting). Granted this is just judging by avatar and perhaps they don't actually wear it in real life? But if you do wear it, some could consider that a construct much the same as the introduction of shaving to women.
I didn't see the women who don't shave complaining about the women that do shave, in this thread at least.
I also don't think there's as much of a stigma about not wearing makeup as there is about not having hair on your body.
I have seen women complaining about other women's choices on other threads, however, and I think this is a big issue feminism fails to address much of the time. If women want respect for their gender then they need to stop putting each other down first and begin to empower one another, no matter their preferences
ETA I totally understand the wanting to feel "girly," I'm usually a bum in my college courses since there's no reason to get dressed up and it's nice to pamper yourself once in a while
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PurringMyrrh wrote: »
My very first reply to you was just being a sarcastic turd.PurringMyrrh wrote: »
Yes I do but not cleanly shaven. There are parts that should be kept clean like the pits and other parts where just a trim would do it for men.
Friends? I'll shave your back if you'll shave mine. *bats eyelashes*
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