Sugars
DGavriel
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I have been doing good and staying under my daily calorie goal but often my sugars are too high I'm thinking maybe I need to skip that one snack at night especially because I have just been diagnosed with diabetes.
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I can't think why you'd want to continue to eat sugary foods as a newly diagnosed diabetic. Perhaps see if you can get a referral to someone who can help you make a good eating plan to at very least be healthy other than having diabetes and perhaps reverse it, as my father did when he was diagnosed and changed his diet. He no longer needs any medication at all.0
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If you're diabetic, talk to your doctor, and follow his/her advice.0
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I have been doing good and staying under my daily calorie goal but often my sugars are too high I'm thinking maybe I need to skip that one snack at night especially because I have just been diagnosed with diabetes.
Have you talked to your doctor about what sort of diet you're supposed to be on?0 -
TheVirgoddess wrote: »I have been doing good and staying under my daily calorie goal but often my sugars are too high I'm thinking maybe I need to skip that one snack at night especially because I have just been diagnosed with diabetes.
Have you talked to your doctor about what sort of diet you're supposed to be on?
This. I don't think you should be undertaking anything by yourself without medical guidance, seeing as you have a medical need to track carbohydrates and sugar at this point.0 -
I have been doing good and staying under my daily calorie goal but often my sugars are too high I'm thinking maybe I need to skip that one snack at night especially because I have just been diagnosed with diabetes.
What was the carb goal your doctor gave you? I assume you were diagnosed T2. Are you seeing a GP or internist, or have you been referred to a diabetic specialist. Many APNPs are also certified diabetic educators and a referral to one of those would be helpful. Also, have you been referred to a Registered Dietician yet?
My doctor ( a diabetic educator) has given me a maximum of 180 g of carbs. She said that tracking sugars separately is unnecessary as long as I stay under the carb maximum since T2D react to all carbs, not just sugars. less than a year after diagnosis, I am off all meds and am managing my blood sugars by diet and exercise alone.
That is me, you should see someone who can set the proper targets for you.
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I don't need medication yet and he told me if I could lose 15 to 20 pounds I could reverse it which is what I am trying to do. He told me to cut back on carbs and sweets and suggested some sugar free candy. I didn't see anything wrong with having one treat after dinner usually a WW snack or those 120 calorie skinny cow packets of chocolate just a little something sweet after being good all day.0
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I'd ask for a referral to a nutritionist that works with diabetics.0
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You can't view things this way. you've been "good" all day so you deserve a treat? Not being judgemental at all but you can't reward yourself for eating healthy. Try to maintain healthy diet, if that includes having a piece of candy or a small icecream then great but you shouldn't be using food as a reward, try using other things like a massage or a new nail polish.0
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OK so the medium banana I had today has 14 sugars and the medium pear has 17 sugars am I not supposed to be eating those either???0
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I don't need medication yet and he told me if I could lose 15 to 20 pounds I could reverse it which is what I am trying to do. He told me to cut back on carbs and sweets and suggested some sugar free candy. I didn't see anything wrong with having one treat after dinner usually a WW snack or those 120 calorie skinny cow packets of chocolate just a little something sweet after being good all day.
There is nothing wrong with a sweet treat but you need to get more specific information from your doctor instead of a generic "cut back on carbs". Cut back to how much? Find out what your maximum carb target is, then when you have that information, you can see exactly where you stand and how to work those treats in. Again, don't worry about your sugars, it is total carbs that count for those of us who are T2D.
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OK so the medium banana I had today has 14 sugars and the medium pear has 17 sugars am I not supposed to be eating those either???
How many grams of carbs have you eaten today?
ETA: I switched out my MFP sugar tracking and track fiber instead since sugar as a separate micronutrient is a non issue as a T2D
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LOL I'm not rewarding myself I just want something sweet.0
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148 carbs today says I have 40 left0
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OK so the medium banana I had today has 14 sugars and the medium pear has 17 sugars am I not supposed to be eating those either???
How many grams of carbs have you eaten today?
ETA: I switched out my MFP sugar tracking and track fiber instead since sugar as a separate micronutrient is a non issue as a T2D
I would start tracking net carbs as she said above. Take out sugar, track fiber instead - sugar is a component of carbs. Fiber is not digestible - that means whatever calorie is assigned to it is removed from the body.
You need to track net carbs: carbs - fiber. That gives you the true carbohydrate count - something U absolutely need to know as a Type II diabetic (if that was the precise diabetes diagnosis given).0 -
I don't need medication yet and he told me if I could lose 15 to 20 pounds I could reverse it which is what I am trying to do. He told me to cut back on carbs and sweets and suggested some sugar free candy. I didn't see anything wrong with having one treat after dinner usually a WW snack or those 120 calorie skinny cow packets of chocolate just a little something sweet after being good all day.
It's not your weight that CAUSES the diabetes. It's the FOOD. You CAN control and even cure it if you care enough to do it. No food is worth being sick over imo. WW, artificial sweeteners, and other processed stuff is not going to be beneficial. Skip the high sugar/low fat stuff (which is what WW, skinny cow, and others are in order to keep calories low); you need to do the opposite. Fat has more calories but it's also what a body needs (the right fats, not canola, soy, margarine, etc). Please do a whole bunch of research. I prevented full blown diabetes, just in time, and it was the FOOD. My diabetic symptoms were totally gone long before I'd lost much weight.
Unfortunately, even many doctors often give diabetics terrible advice. Because they are all on the same "animal fats are bad, grains and sugar are good" and "excess body weight causes diabetes so avoid fat because it has the most calories" band wagons.
Maybe stop using food as a reward? How about non food rewards? A nice bath, leisurely walk, massage from a friend, etc. A couple of generations ago a "treat" was something special a few times a year; suddenly "treats" are every day so it's something you might want to look at.
Honestly, eating healthy foods is not hard and not a terrible punishment. I eat DELICIOUS foods and I am no longer sick. At all.0 -
tedboosalis7 wrote: »OK so the medium banana I had today has 14 sugars and the medium pear has 17 sugars am I not supposed to be eating those either???
How many grams of carbs have you eaten today?
ETA: I switched out my MFP sugar tracking and track fiber instead since sugar as a separate micronutrient is a non issue as a T2D
I would start tracking net carbs as she said above. Take out sugar, track fiber instead - sugar is a component of carbs. Fiber is not digestible - that means whatever calorie is assigned to it is removed from the body.
You need to track net carbs: carbs - fiber. That gives you the true carbohydrate count - something U absolutely need to know as a Type II diabetic (if that was the precise diabetes diagnosis given).
Wrong. T2D's need to track total carbs. All fiber does is slow down the raising of the blood sugar. With fiber, your food will slowly raise your sugar and keep it at that higher point for a while before it slowly drops. Without fiber, the blood sugar spikes and drops quickly. At the end of the day. the averages will be the same which is why the A1C test is the cornerstone of diabetes management, not individual blood glucose readings. It measures the average blood sugar over the previous 3 months.
I track fiber instead of sugar because I watch my total carbs and sugar as a sparate entity is not important. Fiber is for general health and especially colon health.
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Akimajuktuq wrote: »I don't need medication yet and he told me if I could lose 15 to 20 pounds I could reverse it which is what I am trying to do. He told me to cut back on carbs and sweets and suggested some sugar free candy. I didn't see anything wrong with having one treat after dinner usually a WW snack or those 120 calorie skinny cow packets of chocolate just a little something sweet after being good all day.
It's not your weight that CAUSES the diabetes. It's the FOOD. You CAN control and even cure it if you care enough to do it. No food is worth being sick over imo. WW, artificial sweeteners, and other processed stuff is not going to be beneficial. Skip the high sugar/low fat stuff (which is what WW, skinny cow, and others are in order to keep calories low); you need to do the opposite. Fat has more calories but it's also what a body needs (the right fats, not canola, soy, margarine, etc). Please do a whole bunch of research. I prevented full blown diabetes, just in time, and it was the FOOD. My diabetic symptoms were totally gone long before I'd lost much weight.
1) Food does not cause diabetes. Weight is the second most common risk factor for diabetes, after genetics. The food you eat is not a risk factor at all
2) You can never cure diabetes, it is for life. All you can do is control it, and it sounds as though you are doing really well at controlling it. Yes, the ideal way to control it is through diet and exercise but if you go back to bad habits you will go back to high blood sugar.
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Akimajuktuq wrote: »I don't need medication yet and he told me if I could lose 15 to 20 pounds I could reverse it which is what I am trying to do. He told me to cut back on carbs and sweets and suggested some sugar free candy. I didn't see anything wrong with having one treat after dinner usually a WW snack or those 120 calorie skinny cow packets of chocolate just a little something sweet after being good all day.
It's not your weight that CAUSES the diabetes. It's the FOOD. You CAN control and even cure it if you care enough to do it. No food is worth being sick over imo. WW, artificial sweeteners, and other processed stuff is not going to be beneficial. Skip the high sugar/low fat stuff (which is what WW, skinny cow, and others are in order to keep calories low); you need to do the opposite. Fat has more calories but it's also what a body needs (the right fats, not canola, soy, margarine, etc). Please do a whole bunch of research. I prevented full blown diabetes, just in time, and it was the FOOD. My diabetic symptoms were totally gone long before I'd lost much weight.
1) Food does not cause diabetes. Weight is the second most common risk factor for diabetes, after genetics. The food you eat is not a risk factor at all
2) You can never cure diabetes, it is for life. All you can do is control it, and it sounds as though you are doing really well at controlling it. Yes, the ideal way to control it is through diet and exercise but if you go back to bad habits you will go back to high blood sugar.
Well actually, there is one possible cure:
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/jun/24/low-calorie-diet-hope-cure-diabetes
"Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
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At the end of the trial I was told my insulin levels were normal, and after six years I no longer needed my diabetes tablets. Still today, 18 months on, I don't take them."
Wouldn't be fun and would definitely not be safe without medical supervision, but it shows promise.0 -
Bad diet and lack of exercise and of course being over weight most definitely contributes to getting Type 2 Diabetes.0
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I also know that you can have the biggest butt in the world and it won't cause health problems but if you carry your weight in your stomach like my family does then you're screwed!
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Bad diet and lack of exercise and of course being over weight most definitely contributes to getting Type 2 Diabetes.
The overweight does. The bad diet and lack of exercise does not directly lead to diabetes. It CAN lead to excess weight, which is a big risk factor, but a bad diet and lack of exercise alone will not cause one to become diabetic.
Those who develop diabetes have two or more of the risk factors. The most common (in order) are:- Genetics
- Obesity
- Age (the pancreas ages just like the rest of us and may become inefficient)
- Long Term use of some medications (especially statins and antidepressants)
- If your mother had gestational diabetes when carrying you
- Some cancers, and some cancer treatments especially when you were a child
If diabetes runs in your family and you are overweight, you are pretty much screwed, even more as you get older.
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I have been doing good and staying under my daily calorie goal but often my sugars are too high I'm thinking maybe I need to skip that one snack at night especially because I have just been diagnosed with diabetes.
If you are staying under your calorie goal then don't worry about your sugar.
You seriously will not be eating it to a level that it will be adverse to your health.
As long as you are hitting your protein goal and staying within calories - you are doing all you need to do.
If you are concerned that you are eating too much though or your doctor advises otherwise, then hey it's okay not to eat as much sugar as everyone else. You will be just as healthy without.
Don't sweat the little stuff.
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Like others are saying, you really want to talk to your doctor. See if you can get a referral to a registered dietician(not a nutritionist) who works with diabetic so you can be told exactly, in detail, what you should be doing. When diabetes comes into the mix, the usual "Everything in moderation" should go out the window in lieu of consultation with medical professionals.0
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Pretty wild assumption you're making about people there.prettykitty1515 wrote: »I have been doing good and staying under my daily calorie goal but often my sugars are too high I'm thinking maybe I need to skip that one snack at night especially because I have just been diagnosed with diabetes.
How about one month of no refined sugar, no fruit, and no grains (pasta, bread, cereal, rice, etc.)? I mean none. I think you will be surprised with the results.
Always amazes me how Type 2 diabetics are OK with a life of insulin and Metformin, so long as they can eat what they like.
I think it's time you post some progress pictures since you love to criticize every eating sugar. You are wrong every time you do but you still haven't proven you have accomplished anything.
What has someones knowledge of dietary health got to do with how someone looks.
Are you attacking this MFP member about her possible size? Surely that's against the MFP forum rules?
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