Confession Time! ((ABSOLUTELY NO JUDGEMENT))

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  • Italian_Buju
    Italian_Buju Posts: 8,030 Member
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
    Well in Canada you still would not know because we do not even have a bill to look at, lol.
  • MelissaPhippsFeagins
    MelissaPhippsFeagins Posts: 8,063 Member
    TigerNY128 wrote: »
    There seem to be a few of us that lift on here...I'm thinking of starting a lifting thread in the batcave so we can share tips, goals, accomplishments, stories...anyone interested in that??

    Me
  • marissafit06
    marissafit06 Posts: 1,996 Member
    peleroja wrote: »
    Your afternoon smile:

    SpiderMable, crime-fighting six-year-old, saves local NHL team captain. It's the cutest story about a Children's Wish Foundation thing that happened in my city yesterday where they organized a huge event to let her be like Spiderman. It was the cutest thing and she's going to drop the puck at the hockey game tonight. I'm going so I'm excited to see her, I followed the news all day yesterday about her day. They had everyone from the mayor to the police involved.

    (ETA: and if you watch the video, note our hot mayor, lol.)

    That's super cute.
  • marissafit06
    marissafit06 Posts: 1,996 Member
    TigerNY128 wrote: »
    There seem to be a few of us that lift on here...I'm thinking of starting a lifting thread in the batcave so we can share tips, goals, accomplishments, stories...anyone interested in that??

    Yes!

    Me too!
  • ythannah
    ythannah Posts: 4,371 Member
    TigerNY128 wrote: »
    There seem to be a few of us that lift on here...I'm thinking of starting a lifting thread in the batcave so we can share tips, goals, accomplishments, stories...anyone interested in that??

    Yes!!!
  • kellyjellybellyjelly
    kellyjellybellyjelly Posts: 9,480 Member
    edited September 2015
    raymax4 wrote: »
    ShibaEars wrote: »
    Did you all see this story? http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/fuel-pump-blaze-as-man-uses-lighter-on-spider/ar-AAeSyCj?li=AAadgLE

    It's probably not supposed to be funny, but it's funny.[/quote
    FilionWaitWhat.gif

    Now that is nuts!
  • kellyjellybellyjelly
    kellyjellybellyjelly Posts: 9,480 Member
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    What the?????
    That was it? That was their answer?

    That was a huge accident to make! I would hate to see if they had to actually do heart surgery.

    "Gee, where should we cut for this heart surgery, Doc?" "I don't know I think their foot?"
  • CooCooPuff
    CooCooPuff Posts: 4,374 Member
    zkhanman wrote: »
    I absolutely can not kick my diet rockstar addiction. I am down from 2 a day to just one but... I love those damn things.

    I have a Monster Ultra Zero every day. I don't see an issue...
    The price can get to be an issue. Diet soda is the first thing I plan on cutting when I want to save some cash.

  • kellyjellybellyjelly
    kellyjellybellyjelly Posts: 9,480 Member
    zkhanman wrote: »
    I absolutely can not kick my diet rockstar addiction. I am down from 2 a day to just one but... I love those damn things.

    I have a Monster Ultra Zero every day. I don't see an issue...
    The price can get to be an issue. Diet soda is the first thing I plan on cutting when I want to save some cash.

    I usually stock up on Diet Mountain Dew when it's $2.50-$3.00 a pack. I remember one time Wal-Mart had the 24 packs for around $1.99-$3.99.

    The only food items I spend good money on is meats, protein bars, produce (every now & then), ice cream, & peanut butters.
  • kellyjellybellyjelly
    kellyjellybellyjelly Posts: 9,480 Member
    zkhanman wrote: »
    I absolutely can not kick my diet rockstar addiction. I am down from 2 a day to just one but... I love those damn things.

    @zkhanman as long as it's not posing any health risks then you should be fine. If I didn't have at least some caffeine when I have to work an early shift then I would hate to be my customers.
  • CooCooPuff
    CooCooPuff Posts: 4,374 Member
    zkhanman wrote: »
    I absolutely can not kick my diet rockstar addiction. I am down from 2 a day to just one but... I love those damn things.

    I have a Monster Ultra Zero every day. I don't see an issue...
    The price can get to be an issue. Diet soda is the first thing I plan on cutting when I want to save some cash.

    I usually stock up on Diet Mountain Dew when it's $2.50-$3.00 a pack. I remember one time Wal-Mart had the 24 packs for around $1.99-$3.99.

    The only food items I spend good money on is meats, protein bars, produce (every now & then), ice cream, & peanut butters.
    I definitely keep my peepers open for deals. It's just easier for me to justify dropping diet sodas because, when it comes down to it, they don't give me the same "punch" as ice cream or meat.
    I've recently started digging into the reduced price produce at Krogers. $1 for two slightly bruised eggplants, and the 99cent Store a few minutes away has a pretty good variety. I tried pomegranate for the first time last year thanks to them.
  • kellyjellybellyjelly
    kellyjellybellyjelly Posts: 9,480 Member
    zkhanman wrote: »
    I absolutely can not kick my diet rockstar addiction. I am down from 2 a day to just one but... I love those damn things.

    I have a Monster Ultra Zero every day. I don't see an issue...
    The price can get to be an issue. Diet soda is the first thing I plan on cutting when I want to save some cash.

    I usually stock up on Diet Mountain Dew when it's $2.50-$3.00 a pack. I remember one time Wal-Mart had the 24 packs for around $1.99-$3.99.

    The only food items I spend good money on is meats, protein bars, produce (every now & then), ice cream, & peanut butters.
    I definitely keep my peepers open for deals. It's just easier for me to justify dropping diet sodas because, when it comes down to it, they don't give me the same "punch" as ice cream or meat.
    I've recently started digging into the reduced price produce at Krogers. $1 for two slightly bruised eggplants, and the 99cent Store a few minutes away has a pretty good variety. I tried pomegranate for the first time last year thanks to them.

    Do you shop at Wal-Mart at all? If you do you should download their Savings Catcher App & it will catch local prices that are cheaper at competing stores. The only stores I believe they don't catch is Dollar Trees, CVS, & RiteAid. You can have a pretty large amount saved & once you want to redeem the money it will put it on an online gift card that you could either use online or in stores. You can also still price match by taking in a local flyer.

    My other tip is finding a store like the Grocery Outlet where you can find yogurts for around $0.30-$0.50, ice cream for around $0.99-$1.99, & many other deals.
  • Italian_Buju
    Italian_Buju Posts: 8,030 Member
    I ad match and coupon every week. There are only a handful of things I will pay full price for. Hence the stock pile, that way I never pay full price by having enough to last me the sale cycles.
  • kellyjellybellyjelly
    kellyjellybellyjelly Posts: 9,480 Member
    I ad match and coupon every week. There are only a handful of things I will pay full price for. Hence the stock pile, that way I never pay full price by having enough to last me the sale cycles.

    Just in case you don't get into other threads on here wanted to let you know that there is now a limited edition Pumpkin Pie Quest Bar.

    I bought a box at GNC today & they're 220 calories.
  • Italian_Buju
    Italian_Buju Posts: 8,030 Member
    I ad match and coupon every week. There are only a handful of things I will pay full price for. Hence the stock pile, that way I never pay full price by having enough to last me the sale cycles.

    Just in case you don't get into other threads on here wanted to let you know that there is now a limited edition Pumpkin Pie Quest Bar.

    I bought a box at GNC today & they're 220 calories.

    WHAT? OMG, I wonder if we have them in Canada.....I will find out tomorrow!!
  • BodyByBex
    BodyByBex Posts: 3,685 Member
    raymax4 wrote: »
    ShibaEars wrote: »
    Did you all see this story? http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/fuel-pump-blaze-as-man-uses-lighter-on-spider/ar-AAeSyCj?li=AAadgLE

    It's probably not supposed to be funny, but it's funny.
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    My first thought was of this shirt from Look Human when I saw that gif. lol

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  • BodyByBex
    BodyByBex Posts: 3,685 Member
    edited September 2015
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »

    What in the world?!

    kecmw25 wrote: »
    What!?! They can do that?


    MissKalhan wrote: »
    I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!

    ALL OF THIS!

    ETA: fixed quotes
  • BodyByBex
    BodyByBex Posts: 3,685 Member
    bkhamill wrote: »
    MissKalhan wrote: »
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    What in the world?!

    I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!

    It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!

    That happened to my grandmother. They went in for a gallstone or something like that and popped her appendix out since they were already in there.

    I don't hate the idea of eliminating the potential need for another surgery...but maybe tell me about it? ;)

    That to me is just wrong...what if I go in for some sort of heart/lung surgery and they just 'decide' to give me a double mastectomy without consulting me.
    "Well you tested positive for the BRCA 1 and BRCA 2 gene mutations/have a strong history of breast cancer in your family and we were in the area so..."

    Uhm, no!
  • BodyByBex
    BodyByBex Posts: 3,685 Member
    edited September 2015
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    Hoping everything will come back normal! Scary that they didn't know they ordered them together. Keep us updated.

    *edited to add*

    Glad to hear you guys are back at home.

    The drug cabinets dispense whatever the software says. Newly hired NP tried to change the meds and didn't successfully delete one of them. (said software doesn't have a user friendly reputation) New nurse doesn't have confidence to question a provider and gave what the cabinet dispensed. My kid drew the short straw. Which is good for both of them because except for bronchitis, he's healthy as one of POF's horses and it didn't do any lasting damage. They could have killed someone who had a heart problem.

    First bolded: Lawsuits for everyone! Normally, I'm not this way but someone needs to do some serious policy writing and up the training if it's not user friendly. Second, if you're a nurse, you need a pair of brass ovaries/balls to question things. Question ALL the things. You can really save someone's life just by asking a simple question or making a sound suggestion.

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    ETA: Second bolded made me sort and coffee came out my nose :lol:
  • BodyByBex
    BodyByBex Posts: 3,685 Member
    edited September 2015
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
    Well in Canada you still would not know because we do not even have a bill to look at, lol.

    I would want an itemized list of what all my taxes would be paying for them to be able to do to me. Just so I would have a hard copy of the list of all the things that had been done. Could you request one in Canada maybe?

    ETA: deleted a useless inflammatory statement about a political person...
  • Susieq_1994
    Susieq_1994 Posts: 5,361 Member
    edited September 2015
    bkhamill wrote: »
    ythannah wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    MissKalhan wrote: »
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    What in the world?!

    I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!

    It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!

    That's alarming!

    You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.

    "Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."

    Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)

    Yes, I live in Saudi Arabia although I'm originally from Oman. In general, Saudi Arabia is a VERY safe country. We have very little in the way of petty theft/robberies, violent crime, shootings, rape (by strangers), and such things.

    However, Americans and other non-Muslim expatriates do have additional safety issues that other nationalities/religions don't face. This is the anti-American sentiment that tends to rage among those with terrorist leanings--and Saudi does seem to have quite a few of these ignorant people. For this reason, Americans and other Westerners/Europeans etc. who come to live and work in Saudi Arabia tend to live in high-security compounds in the more high-end areas. But these terror-based crimes are really quite rare, because the government cracks down on them very heavily nowadays, and Saudi Arabia has the death penalty for such crimes.

    Nowadays, it seems to me that Saudi Arabia is less safe for everyone though--ISIS has made their presence known and is blowing up/killing indiscriminately. Pretty much all of their victims here in Saudi Arabia up until now, however, have been Muslims--they've been targeting mosques.

    So overall, I'd say you'd be much safer in Saudi Arabia than you would be if you lived in a bad neighborhood, but we do have our problems--mostly with terrorism.
  • Susieq_1994
    Susieq_1994 Posts: 5,361 Member
    edited September 2015
    pofoster21 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    ythannah wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    MissKalhan wrote: »
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    What in the world?!

    I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!

    It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!

    That's alarming!

    You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.

    "Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."

    Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)

    She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.

    I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.
    bkhamill wrote: »
    pofoster21 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    ythannah wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    MissKalhan wrote: »
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    What in the world?!

    I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!

    It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!

    That's alarming!

    You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.

    "Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."

    Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)

    She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.

    A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.

    There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.

    What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here. :)

    As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.

    One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there. :)
  • Susieq_1994
    Susieq_1994 Posts: 5,361 Member
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    What the?????
    That was it? That was their answer?

    That was a huge accident to make! I would hate to see if they had to actually do heart surgery.

    "Gee, where should we cut for this heart surgery, Doc?" "I don't know I think their foot?"

    LOL!! :D
  • MelissaPhippsFeagins
    MelissaPhippsFeagins Posts: 8,063 Member
    I stayed home with Son 2 yesterday, but sent an email to the practice manager at urgent care this morning.
    When I got here this morning, I had two interesting emails. 1) we can't send any occupational health bills out until mid -October because that software hasn't been updated for ICD-10. Not a big deal if it's actually fixed by the 15th. 2) FMLA girl "is no longer with us." I don't knows if she quit or they fired her, but I am not surprised. And they've assigned someone to help me with her work, so it's going to be fine.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    I ad match and coupon every week. There are only a handful of things I will pay full price for. Hence the stock pile, that way I never pay full price by having enough to last me the sale cycles.

    Just in case you don't get into other threads on here wanted to let you know that there is now a limited edition Pumpkin Pie Quest Bar.

    I bought a box at GNC today & they're 220 calories.

    I bought a box on Amazon a couple days ago. They should be here soon!!!
  • kellyjellybellyjelly
    kellyjellybellyjelly Posts: 9,480 Member
    I ad match and coupon every week. There are only a handful of things I will pay full price for. Hence the stock pile, that way I never pay full price by having enough to last me the sale cycles.

    Just in case you don't get into other threads on here wanted to let you know that there is now a limited edition Pumpkin Pie Quest Bar.

    I bought a box at GNC today & they're 220 calories.

    I bought a box on Amazon a couple days ago. They should be here soon!!!

    I laughed when the lady at GNC told me they were shipped in a special box & she said they had no idea what was in the box. She said on the box it said open this box & get terminated. Quest is serious about their limited edition products.

    Apparently some posters in another thread said Quest changed their recipe & the bars don't taste the same. I must have some of the old bars, because I haven't noticed a taste change yet. Then again the only two bars I usually eat are Cookie Dough & White Chocolate Raspberry.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    I ad match and coupon every week. There are only a handful of things I will pay full price for. Hence the stock pile, that way I never pay full price by having enough to last me the sale cycles.

    Just in case you don't get into other threads on here wanted to let you know that there is now a limited edition Pumpkin Pie Quest Bar.

    I bought a box at GNC today & they're 220 calories.

    I bought a box on Amazon a couple days ago. They should be here soon!!!

    I laughed when the lady at GNC told me they were shipped in a special box & she said they had no idea what was in the box. She said on the box it said open this box & get terminated. Quest is serious about their limited edition products.

    Apparently some posters in another thread said Quest changed their recipe & the bars don't taste the same. I must have some of the old bars, because I haven't noticed a taste change yet. Then again the only two bars I usually eat are Cookie Dough & White Chocolate Raspberry.

    I just hope the Pumpkin Pie is good, since I bought a whole box.
  • ythannah
    ythannah Posts: 4,371 Member
    I ad match and coupon every week. There are only a handful of things I will pay full price for. Hence the stock pile, that way I never pay full price by having enough to last me the sale cycles.

    Just in case you don't get into other threads on here wanted to let you know that there is now a limited edition Pumpkin Pie Quest Bar.

    I bought a box at GNC today & they're 220 calories.

    WHAT? OMG, I wonder if we have them in Canada.....I will find out tomorrow!!

    Anxiously awaiting your response...
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
    Well in Canada you still would not know because we do not even have a bill to look at, lol.

    I would want an itemized list of what all my taxes would be paying for them to be able to do to me. Just so I would have a hard copy of the list of all the things that had been done. Could you request one in Canada maybe?

    ETA: deleted a useless inflammatory statement about a political person...

    Technically, health care is only partially funded by taxes at the federal level via transfer payments to the provinces. In my province, health care is funded by premiums that are paid by employers, based on a percentage of total payroll. There is also an individual premium levied on higher income earners which is assessed when you do your tax return (federal) but is designated toward the province. (Back when I started working full-time 27 years ago it was an actual insurance premium that you paid to the Ministry of Health every year.)

    That's my overly-simplified explanation of a very complex payment structure, but the bottom line is that we don't necessarily have "taxpayer access" to health insurance billing information.

    I'm pretty sure one could request it but that would probably be a very involved process.
  • raymax4
    raymax4 Posts: 6,070 Member
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    That was an epic failure of a response.
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    Wow! No explanation why? I hope you did not have to pay for it.
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    If they did not get a informed consent. It's malpractic
  • raymax4
    raymax4 Posts: 6,070 Member
    bkhamill wrote: »
    MissKalhan wrote: »
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    What in the world?!

    I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!

    It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!

    Should not be standard procedure