Confession Time! ((ABSOLUTELY NO JUDGEMENT))
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Susieq_1994 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.
There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.
What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here.
As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.
One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there.
Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).0 -
Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_[quote= wrote:
Well in Canada you still would not know because we do not even have a bill to look at, lol.Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
So when you give your medical history to the next Doctor, how many things do you have to say I don't know about?
I thought I had an appendix?0 -
I haven't had any luck with finding a good discount grocery store.kellyjellybellyjelly wrote: »spacequiztime wrote: »
I definitely keep my peepers open for deals. It's just easier for me to justify dropping diet sodas because, when it comes down to it, they don't give me the same "punch" as ice cream or meat.kellyjellybellyjelly wrote: »spacequiztime wrote: »
The price can get to be an issue. Diet soda is the first thing I plan on cutting when I want to save some cash.quiksylver296 wrote: »
I usually stock up on Diet Mountain Dew when it's $2.50-$3.00 a pack. I remember one time Wal-Mart had the 24 packs for around $1.99-$3.99.
The only food items I spend good money on is meats, protein bars, produce (every now & then), ice cream, & peanut butters.
I've recently started digging into the reduced price produce at Krogers. $1 for two slightly bruised eggplants, and the 99cent Store a few minutes away has a pretty good variety. I tried pomegranate for the first time last year thanks to them.
Do you shop at Wal-Mart at all? If you do you should download their Savings Catcher App & it will catch local prices that are cheaper at competing stores. The only stores I believe they don't catch is Dollar Trees, CVS, & RiteAid. You can have a pretty large amount saved & once you want to redeem the money it will put it on an online gift card that you could either use online or in stores. You can also still price match by taking in a local flyer.
My other tip is finding a store like the Grocery Outlet where you can find yogurts for around $0.30-$0.50, ice cream for around $0.99-$1.99, & many other deals.
I actually just found out about the Savings Catcher app recently! I downloaded the app as soon as I read about it.
I wonder if there are any employees out there that were terminated because they couldn't resist and opened the Quest box
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quiksylver296 wrote: »
I like only the white and orange monster zeros. I prefer the monster rehabs better. There is a new peach flavor.
I get hyper with caffeine on board I find the monsters last me 12 hours. I'm very careful what time of day I drink them in.0 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »
I like only the white and orange monster zeros. I prefer the monster rehabs better. There is a new peach flavor.
I get hyper with caffeine on board I find the monsters last me 12 hours. I'm very careful what time of day I drink them in.
I like the Monster Rehabs too, the lemonade ones usually. I only drink energy drinks on road trips now that I'm allegedly a real adult, but when I worked evenings I used to pound the pink 15-cal Rockstars (the ones in the skinny girly can?) like a frat boy pounds PBR. Not great.
Did any of you read that news story last month about the woman drinking more than 20 Red Bulls per day, though? She was going blind (I think due to a weight-related condition, but obviously 20 Red Bulls have a ton of calories) and still hadn't stopped, it was nuts.
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kellyjellybellyjelly wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »I ad match and coupon every week. There are only a handful of things I will pay full price for. Hence the stock pile, that way I never pay full price by having enough to last me the sale cycles.
Just in case you don't get into other threads on here wanted to let you know that there is now a limited edition Pumpkin Pie Quest Bar.
I bought a box at GNC today & they're 220 calories.
I need this in my life, stupid Canada and not getting the cool flavours.... Is it any good?!0 -
MissKalhan wrote: »kellyjellybellyjelly wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »I ad match and coupon every week. There are only a handful of things I will pay full price for. Hence the stock pile, that way I never pay full price by having enough to last me the sale cycles.
Just in case you don't get into other threads on here wanted to let you know that there is now a limited edition Pumpkin Pie Quest Bar.
I bought a box at GNC today & they're 220 calories.
I need this in my life, stupid Canada and not getting the cool flavours.... Is it any good?!
Me too, I'm going to go harass my favourite employee at GNC and see if we can get them! My favourite Quest flavours are the Banana Nut, Apple Pie, Cinnamon Roll type ones, not the berry or chocolatey kinds, so I think pumpkin pie sounds like the perfect flavour for me.0 -
Susieq_1994 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.
There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.
What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here.
As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.
One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there.
Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).
Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.0 -
Susieq_1994 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.
There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.
What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here.
As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.
One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there.
Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).
Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.
I will, we are all warning her what to expect. She refuses to not go with her husband, he has to go or find another company to work for at this point.0 -
spacequiztime wrote: »
I haven't had any luck with finding a good discount grocery store.kellyjellybellyjelly wrote: »spacequiztime wrote: »
I definitely keep my peepers open for deals. It's just easier for me to justify dropping diet sodas because, when it comes down to it, they don't give me the same "punch" as ice cream or meat.kellyjellybellyjelly wrote: »spacequiztime wrote: »
The price can get to be an issue. Diet soda is the first thing I plan on cutting when I want to save some cash.quiksylver296 wrote: »
I usually stock up on Diet Mountain Dew when it's $2.50-$3.00 a pack. I remember one time Wal-Mart had the 24 packs for around $1.99-$3.99.
The only food items I spend good money on is meats, protein bars, produce (every now & then), ice cream, & peanut butters.
I've recently started digging into the reduced price produce at Krogers. $1 for two slightly bruised eggplants, and the 99cent Store a few minutes away has a pretty good variety. I tried pomegranate for the first time last year thanks to them.
Do you shop at Wal-Mart at all? If you do you should download their Savings Catcher App & it will catch local prices that are cheaper at competing stores. The only stores I believe they don't catch is Dollar Trees, CVS, & RiteAid. You can have a pretty large amount saved & once you want to redeem the money it will put it on an online gift card that you could either use online or in stores. You can also still price match by taking in a local flyer.
My other tip is finding a store like the Grocery Outlet where you can find yogurts for around $0.30-$0.50, ice cream for around $0.99-$1.99, & many other deals.
I actually just found out about the Savings Catcher app recently! I downloaded the app as soon as I read about it.
I wonder if there are any employees out there that were terminated because they couldn't resist and opened the Quest box
When I worked at CVS, we got a similar package when the final Harry Potter book came in...a week before release!0 -
GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!0 -
CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
You will do great!0 -
CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
Awesome! Good luck!0 -
CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
That is so awesome...and fast!!! Sending you rockin' interview skills and positive thoughts!0 -
CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
Congrats and good luck!0 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »
I like only the white and orange monster zeros. I prefer the monster rehabs better. There is a new peach flavor.
I get hyper with caffeine on board I find the monsters last me 12 hours. I'm very careful what time of day I drink them in.
I like the Monster Rehabs too, the lemonade ones usually. I only drink energy drinks on road trips now that I'm allegedly a real adult, but when I worked evenings I used to pound the pink 15-cal Rockstars (the ones in the skinny girly can?) like a frat boy pounds PBR. Not great.
Did any of you read that news story last month about the woman drinking more than 20 Red Bulls per day, though? She was going blind (I think due to a weight-related condition, but obviously 20 Red Bulls have a ton of calories) and still hadn't stopped, it was nuts.
I'd be more worried about my heart just deciding to stop from caffeine over load- CRAZY woman for sure!0 -
CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
WOOOOO congrats!! I had no doubt you would!0 -
CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
You'll do Super Great!0 -
CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
You will do great!CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
Awesome! Good luck!kelly_c_77 wrote: »CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
Congrats and good luck!CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
WOOOOO congrats!! I had no doubt you would!quiksylver296 wrote: »CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
That is so awesome...and fast!!! Sending you rockin' interview skills and positive thoughts!
Thanks, all! Internal candidates tend to be favored, since there's little to no orientation and adjustment period to the company to worry about, so things move pretty quickly. They can also see legitimate performance reviews right away, which may or may not help!
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CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
Good luck!
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Italian_Buju wrote: »I ad match and coupon every week. There are only a handful of things I will pay full price for. Hence the stock pile, that way I never pay full price by having enough to last me the sale cycles.
this is how i live....with everything.
i think the only thing i ever pay full price for is milk.0 -
CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
Good luck!!! You'll do great
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lilaclovebird wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »kellyjellybellyjelly wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
Hoping everything will come back normal! Scary that they didn't know they ordered them together. Keep us updated.
*edited to add*
Glad to hear you guys are back at home.
The drug cabinets dispense whatever the software says. Newly hired NP tried to change the meds and didn't successfully delete one of them. (said software doesn't have a user friendly reputation) New nurse doesn't have confidence to question a provider and gave what the cabinet dispensed. My kid drew the short straw. Which is good for both of them because except for bronchitis, he's healthy as one of POF's horses and it didn't do any lasting damage. They could have killed someone who had a heart problem.
First bolded: Lawsuits for everyone! Normally, I'm not this way but someone needs to do some serious policy writing and up the training if it's not user friendly. Second, if you're a nurse, you need a pair of brass ovaries/balls to question things. Question ALL the things. You can really save someone's life just by asking a simple question or making a sound suggestion.
ETA: Second bolded made me sort and coffee came out my nose
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that 70's show!! 0 -
kelly_c_77 wrote: »CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
Congrats and good luck!
Fingers crossed. You have this!0 -
CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
Yaaaaay!!0 -
AWESOME!CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!0 -
CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
Eeeep! Exciting! Good luck and kick some booty! 0 -
MissKalhan wrote: »CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
Eeeep! Exciting! Good luck and kick some booty!
Ditto!0 -
Susieq_1994 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.
There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.
What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here.
As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.
One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there.
Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).
Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.
See, I knew you really needed Susie to weigh in.
I am sure I exaggerated her comment to me...but I interpreted it as it wasn't safe for me to go! 0 -
pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.
There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.
What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here.
As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.
One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there.
Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).
Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.
See, I knew you really needed Susie to weigh in.
I am sure I exaggerated her comment to me...but I interpreted it as it wasn't safe for me to go!
Thanks for the information both of you. She has made up her mind, but I will still give her my advice (I have known this girl her entire life - she is like a daughter to me) I really have a feeling that she will try to come home with or without her husband after a few months. She is going to hate it.0
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