Confession Time! ((ABSOLUTELY NO JUDGEMENT))
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CountessKitteh wrote: »Wicked_Seraph wrote: »OMG I just found this post... I'm ashamed that I've spent a great deal of my work day reading this thread (page 26 @_@)
Anything salty or savory is my kryptonite... I'm a vegan but I get weak in the knees when it comes to mac and cheese or a pizza with white sauce and cheese (I know, I know... bad vegan). I have ordered a small pizza SWEARING I'll stop at 1/4 of it... then 1/2... eventually one hour into Skyrim or Fallout and I've devoured the entire thing.
But will you try to read all 1600 pages?
Fun fact: We collect bottle caps at home (to eventually shadow box or something, I swear) and I insist that it's so we'll be rich in the post-apocalyptic world.
I collect them too (well ones from cool bottles that we personally open).
Everytime I see a bottlecap on the ground I think of it as money (but I don't pick them up....yet). I'll be rich too!0 -
CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
Whoo congrats and sending tons of good luck.0 -
CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
Yay! Great!0 -
Italian_Buju wrote: »
Um, pardon?girldownsouth wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »girldownsouth wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »marissafit06 wrote: »So confession that I haven't been to my gym in several years, but still have the membership. Can't just toss a $25/yr membership, even if I am not using it. Well, today is the day I go reaquaint myself with this space. I just hope I don't get accosted by the Weight Watchers people that are now attached to the gym.
That's a bargain. I wish I could find a gym that cheap. Let us know how it goes.
You know! I pay $60 a MONTH.
Yeah, mine is more like $100 a month. I thought all gyms seemed cheap in the US. I think they work to a different business model.
Holy crap! What do you get for that?
Just a standard gym really. They're just a lot more expensive here. The budget ones are getting more common here, but they're all in town centres and as I don't lice or work there parking and traffic makes it less than ideal.
ETA: Nevermind, I JUST figured out that likely should have said 'live or work'
I know I'm way behind but this made me laugh!0 -
pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.
There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.
What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here.
As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.
One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there.
Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).
Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.
See, I knew you really needed Susie to weigh in.
I am sure I exaggerated her comment to me...but I interpreted it as it wasn't safe for me to go!
Thanks for the information both of you. She has made up her mind, but I will still give her my advice (I have known this girl her entire life - she is like a daughter to me) I really have a feeling that she will try to come home with or without her husband after a few months. She is going to hate it.
Perhaps she should look into nursing in Saudi Arabia if the place they'll be living has its own medical facilities. I have a friend who worked there for a couple years as a nurse in a facility for expats in a compound and ended up rather enjoying it - she was there as a single woman so didn't get to go out too much, but she worked with other Westerners in an English-speaking clinic and lived in a big compound with a pool, shopping, etc etc on site so had everything she needed nearby and didn't have to cover day-to-day. And I think it was pretty financially lucrative, to boot.0 -
TigerNY128 wrote: »There seem to be a few of us that lift on here...I'm thinking of starting a lifting thread in the batcave so we can share tips, goals, accomplishments, stories...anyone interested in that??
Yes!!!Susieq_1994 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.
There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.
What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here.
As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.
One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there.
Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).
Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.
I will, we are all warning her what to expect. She refuses to not go with her husband, he has to go or find another company to work for at this point.
Up to this point I have just found this conversation fascinating. I thought she was going to work there alone and her husband was trying to dissuade her. I would find It difficult to live in a place where I had to be escorted every where I go. I would find it stifling to wear cloths that entirely covers me in such hot weather. I can't imagine what it would be like. However......there is no where I'd rather be than with my husband. If that meant adjusting to different laws and expectations so be it. I have found joy in every place that I have lived. I imagine Susie that there are many great and intreating things about Saudi Arabia. I have read some on this post and have been fascinated.
I guess that I would like to be warned what I was getting into, but I would also like to know some of the interesting things that women do to keep busy and entertained. What are the things that give you joy and entertain you?
I hope that I am not intruding to much into the conversation. Thanks for letting me.0 -
CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
how exciting best wishes0 -
pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.
There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.
What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here.
As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.
One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there.
Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).
Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.
See, I knew you really needed Susie to weigh in.
I am sure I exaggerated her comment to me...but I interpreted it as it wasn't safe for me to go!
Thanks for the information both of you. She has made up her mind, but I will still give her my advice (I have known this girl her entire life - she is like a daughter to me) I really have a feeling that she will try to come home with or without her husband after a few months. She is going to hate it.
Perhaps she should look into nursing in Saudi Arabia if the place they'll be living has its own medical facilities. I have a friend who worked there for a couple years as a nurse in a facility for expats in a compound and ended up rather enjoying it - she was there as a single woman so didn't get to go out too much, but she worked with other Westerners in an English-speaking clinic and lived in a big compound with a pool, shopping, etc etc on site so had everything she needed nearby and didn't have to cover day-to-day. And I think it was pretty financially lucrative, to boot.
That is an idea0 -
Today, for breakfast I ate....what I would say... A heart attack in a flour tortilla. I haven't eaten it for months. It was delicious. It sported a piece of fried chicken, chili queso, pico de gallo, more cheese let's tomatoes and this lovely avocado sauce.
I swear I am getting a lot more enjoyment out of food there days!0 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »kellyjellybellyjelly wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »I ad match and coupon every week. There are only a handful of things I will pay full price for. Hence the stock pile, that way I never pay full price by having enough to last me the sale cycles.
Just in case you don't get into other threads on here wanted to let you know that there is now a limited edition Pumpkin Pie Quest Bar.
I bought a box at GNC today & they're 220 calories.
I bought a box on Amazon a couple days ago. They should be here soon!!!
They did not have them at my GNC tonight
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MissKalhan wrote: »kellyjellybellyjelly wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »I ad match and coupon every week. There are only a handful of things I will pay full price for. Hence the stock pile, that way I never pay full price by having enough to last me the sale cycles.
Just in case you don't get into other threads on here wanted to let you know that there is now a limited edition Pumpkin Pie Quest Bar.
I bought a box at GNC today & they're 220 calories.
I need this in my life, stupid Canada and not getting the cool flavours.... Is it any good?!
Me too, I'm going to go harass my favourite employee at GNC and see if we can get them! My favourite Quest flavours are the Banana Nut, Apple Pie, Cinnamon Roll type ones, not the berry or chocolatey kinds, so I think pumpkin pie sounds like the perfect flavour for me.
If you have any luck with that, let me know! Then I will harass mine, lol. I love the chocolatey kinds, but love everything pumpkin so I really want to try them. I am currently stocking up on pumpkin spice tea from Tim's as I ran out early this year and it was tragic....that will NOT happen again.0 -
CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
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CountessKitteh wrote: »Wicked_Seraph wrote: »OMG I just found this post... I'm ashamed that I've spent a great deal of my work day reading this thread (page 26 @_@)
Anything salty or savory is my kryptonite... I'm a vegan but I get weak in the knees when it comes to mac and cheese or a pizza with white sauce and cheese (I know, I know... bad vegan). I have ordered a small pizza SWEARING I'll stop at 1/4 of it... then 1/2... eventually one hour into Skyrim or Fallout and I've devoured the entire thing.
But will you try to read all 1600 pages?
Fun fact: We collect bottle caps at home (to eventually shadow box or something, I swear) and I insist that it's so we'll be rich in the post-apocalyptic world. I collect them too (well ones from cool bottles that we personally open).
Everytime I see a bottlecap on the ground I think of it as money (but I don't pick them up....yet). I'll be rich too!
I still do not understand.0 -
TigerNY128 wrote: »There seem to be a few of us that lift on here...I'm thinking of starting a lifting thread in the batcave so we can share tips, goals, accomplishments, stories...anyone interested in that??
Yes!!!Susieq_1994 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.
There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.
What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here.
As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.
One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there.
Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).
Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.
I will, we are all warning her what to expect. She refuses to not go with her husband, he has to go or find another company to work for at this point.
Up to this point I have just found this conversation fascinating. I thought she was going to work there alone and her husband was trying to dissuade her. I would find It difficult to live in a place where I had to be escorted every where I go. I would find it stifling to wear cloths that entirely covers me in such hot weather. I can't imagine what it would be like. However......there is no where I'd rather be than with my husband. If that meant adjusting to different laws and expectations so be it. I have found joy in every place that I have lived. I imagine Susie that there are many great and intreating things about Saudi Arabia. I have read some on this post and have been fascinated.
I guess that I would like to be warned what I was getting into, but I would also like to know some of the interesting things that women do to keep busy and entertained. What are the things that give you joy and entertain you?
I hope that I am not intruding to much into the conversation. Thanks for letting me.
Sorry to say, I find next to nothing here that entertains me. I walk in the malls because it's too hot to walk outside, and I enjoy walking. There are some nice traditional restaurants, if you like that kind of thing. It seems to me that women here occupy a lot of their time with shopping, which I don't enjoy.
As peleroja mentioned, the lady in question might be able to work, but that will require a lot of hoop-jumping. Coming for her husband's job means she will be on an "accompanying dependent" visa, not on a working visa. If she wants to work, she would have to find a job that would be willing to hire her, start the visa process, then exit and re-enter the country with her new visa. As mentioned, women don't usually have to cover themselves within their compounds, but they do have to when they exit them.
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Major confession.. I feel like a terrible wife. Today at work, one of my coworkers put his hands on my shoulders while he was talking to me. He's very attractive, albeit 7 years older than me. He kept smiling at me and I felt like he was checking me out, which I honestly didn't mind. When he put his hands on my shoulder, my whole body got very warm and I got goosebumps. Granted, I'd never cheat on my husband, but my body's instant reaction made me feel horrible.0
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Susieq_1994 wrote: »TigerNY128 wrote: »There seem to be a few of us that lift on here...I'm thinking of starting a lifting thread in the batcave so we can share tips, goals, accomplishments, stories...anyone interested in that??
Yes!!!Susieq_1994 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.
There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.
What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here.
As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.
One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there.
Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).
Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.
I will, we are all warning her what to expect. She refuses to not go with her husband, he has to go or find another company to work for at this point.
Up to this point I have just found this conversation fascinating. I thought she was going to work there alone and her husband was trying to dissuade her. I would find It difficult to live in a place where I had to be escorted every where I go. I would find it stifling to wear cloths that entirely covers me in such hot weather. I can't imagine what it would be like. However......there is no where I'd rather be than with my husband. If that meant adjusting to different laws and expectations so be it. I have found joy in every place that I have lived. I imagine Susie that there are many great and intreating things about Saudi Arabia. I have read some on this post and have been fascinated.
I guess that I would like to be warned what I was getting into, but I would also like to know some of the interesting things that women do to keep busy and entertained. What are the things that give you joy and entertain you?
I hope that I am not intruding to much into the conversation. Thanks for letting me.
Sorry to say, I find next to nothing here that entertains me. I walk in the malls because it's too hot to walk outside, and I enjoy walking. There are some nice traditional restaurants, if you like that kind of thing. It seems to me that women here occupy a lot of their time with shopping, which I don't enjoy.
As peleroja mentioned, the lady in question might be able to work, but that will require a lot of hoop-jumping. Coming for her husband's job means she will be on an "accompanying dependent" visa, not on a working visa. If she wants to work, she would have to find a job that would be willing to hire her, start the visa process, then exit and re-enter the country with her new visa. As mentioned, women don't usually have to cover themselves within their compounds, but they do have to when they exit them.
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Major confession.. I feel like a terrible wife. Today at work, one of my coworkers put his hands on my shoulders while he was talking to me. He's very attractive, albeit 7 years older than me. He kept smiling at me and I felt like he was checking me out, which I honestly didn't mind. When he put his hands on my shoulder, my whole body got very warm and I got goosebumps. Granted, I'd never cheat on my husband, but my body's instant reaction made me feel horrible.
That happens sometimes. Just because you're married doesn't mean your body won't react to an attractive person. I would make your boundaries very clear to cute coworker, though, if you intend to stay true to your husband. It's a slippery slope and you could find yourself doing things you didn't intend, because they creep up on you.0 -
Major confession.. I feel like a terrible wife. Today at work, one of my coworkers put his hands on my shoulders while he was talking to me. He's very attractive, albeit 7 years older than me. He kept smiling at me and I felt like he was checking me out, which I honestly didn't mind. When he put his hands on my shoulder, my whole body got very warm and I got goosebumps. Granted, I'd never cheat on my husband, but my body's instant reaction made me feel horrible.
Realizing you won't do it is the key! Other than that, what's so bad about feeling a little flattered?
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Major confession.. I feel like a terrible wife. Today at work, one of my coworkers put his hands on my shoulders while he was talking to me. He's very attractive, albeit 7 years older than me. He kept smiling at me and I felt like he was checking me out, which I honestly didn't mind. When he put his hands on my shoulder, my whole body got very warm and I got goosebumps. Granted, I'd never cheat on my husband, but my body's instant reaction made me feel horrible.
If it makes you feel horrible, then don't let it happen again. Just tell your coworker that's inappropriate because you are married and because you work together and move on. Male attention is nice, but you have to know when to put a stop to it, preferably without disturbing your workplace.
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Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)[/quote]
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that. [/quote]
I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.
There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.
What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here.
As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.
One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there.[/quote]
Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse). [/quote]
Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.[/quote]
I will, we are all warning her what to expect. She refuses to not go with her husband, he has to go or find another company to work for at this point. [/quote]
Up to this point I have just found this conversation fascinating. I thought she was going to work there alone and her husband was trying to dissuade her. I would find It difficult to live in a place where I had to be escorted every where I go. I would find it stifling to wear cloths that entirely covers me in such hot weather. I can't imagine what it would be like. However......there is no where I'd rather be than with my husband. If that meant adjusting to different laws and expectations so be it. I have found joy in every place that I have lived. I imagine Susie that there are many great and intreating things about Saudi Arabia. I have read some on this post and have been fascinated.
I guess that I would like to be warned what I was getting into, but I would also like to know some of the interesting things that women do to keep busy and entertained. What are the things that give you joy and entertain you?
I hope that I am not intruding to much into the conversation. Thanks for letting me.[/quote]
Sorry to say, I find next to nothing here that entertains me. I walk in the malls because it's too hot to walk outside, and I enjoy walking. There are some nice traditional restaurants, if you like that kind of thing. It seems to me that women here occupy a lot of their time with shopping, which I don't enjoy.
As peleroja mentioned, the lady in question might be able to work, but that will require a lot of hoop-jumping. Coming for her husband's job means she will be on an "accompanying dependent" visa, not on a working visa. If she wants to work, she would have to find a job that would be willing to hire her, start the visa process, then exit and re-enter the country with her new visa. As mentioned, women don't usually have to cover themselves within their compounds, but they do have to when they exit them.
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I would not do well there. [/quote]
I remember getting a letter from Brother 3 during the 1st Gulf War. He was stationed in Saudi Arabia prior to the invasion of Kuwait. "One of our nurses nearly got herself arrested today for forgetting to cover herself. She reminds me of you." I took that as a warning to never visit. I would totally forget some really important rule.
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I am getting ready to head out for the weekend. I am sure I won't log faithfully, but I will log what I can. I am still seriously considering doing the challenge on Bodybuilding.com that quiksylver is doing. If I think I am up to it. I gotta start somewhere. Besides, those before pics I took should be enough motivation to never look this way again.0
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I am getting ready to head out for the weekend. I am sure I won't log faithfully, but I will log what I can. I am still seriously considering doing the challenge on Bodybuilding.com that quiksylver is doing. If I think I am up to it. I gotta start somewhere. Besides, those before pics I took should be enough motivation to never look this way again.
DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!
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pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.
There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.
What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here.
As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.
One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there.
Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).
Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.
See, I knew you really needed Susie to weigh in.
I am sure I exaggerated her comment to me...but I interpreted it as it wasn't safe for me to go!
Thanks for the information both of you. She has made up her mind, but I will still give her my advice (I have known this girl her entire life - she is like a daughter to me) I really have a feeling that she will try to come home with or without her husband after a few months. She is going to hate it.
Perhaps she should look into nursing in Saudi Arabia if the place they'll be living has its own medical facilities. I have a friend who worked there for a couple years as a nurse in a facility for expats in a compound and ended up rather enjoying it - she was there as a single woman so didn't get to go out too much, but she worked with other Westerners in an English-speaking clinic and lived in a big compound with a pool, shopping, etc etc on site so had everything she needed nearby and didn't have to cover day-to-day. And I think it was pretty financially lucrative, to boot.
My Great Aunt used to do this! She was so far up that she was nursing the King (I think they're referred to as King? @susieq_1994??) for a few years before he passed.0 -
MissKalhan wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.
There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.
What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here.
As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.
One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there.
Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).
Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.
See, I knew you really needed Susie to weigh in.
I am sure I exaggerated her comment to me...but I interpreted it as it wasn't safe for me to go!
Thanks for the information both of you. She has made up her mind, but I will still give her my advice (I have known this girl her entire life - she is like a daughter to me) I really have a feeling that she will try to come home with or without her husband after a few months. She is going to hate it.
Perhaps she should look into nursing in Saudi Arabia if the place they'll be living has its own medical facilities. I have a friend who worked there for a couple years as a nurse in a facility for expats in a compound and ended up rather enjoying it - she was there as a single woman so didn't get to go out too much, but she worked with other Westerners in an English-speaking clinic and lived in a big compound with a pool, shopping, etc etc on site so had everything she needed nearby and didn't have to cover day-to-day. And I think it was pretty financially lucrative, to boot.
My Great Aunt used to do this! She was so far up that she was nursing the King (I think they're referred to as King? @susieq_1994??) for a few years before he passed.
Yes, Saudi Arabia is a kingdom and we have a king. 0 -
Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.
There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.
What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here.
As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.
One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there.
Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).
Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.
See, I knew you really needed Susie to weigh in.
I am sure I exaggerated her comment to me...but I interpreted it as it wasn't safe for me to go!
Thanks for the information both of you. She has made up her mind, but I will still give her my advice (I have known this girl her entire life - she is like a daughter to me) I really have a feeling that she will try to come home with or without her husband after a few months. She is going to hate it.
Perhaps she should look into nursing in Saudi Arabia if the place they'll be living has its own medical facilities. I have a friend who worked there for a couple years as a nurse in a facility for expats in a compound and ended up rather enjoying it - she was there as a single woman so didn't get to go out too much, but she worked with other Westerners in an English-speaking clinic and lived in a big compound with a pool, shopping, etc etc on site so had everything she needed nearby and didn't have to cover day-to-day. And I think it was pretty financially lucrative, to boot.
My Great Aunt used to do this! She was so far up that she was nursing the King (I think they're referred to as King? @susieq_1994??) for a few years before he passed.
Yes, Saudi Arabia is a kingdom and we have a king.
Yay! I remember things sometimes lol 0 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »I am getting ready to head out for the weekend. I am sure I won't log faithfully, but I will log what I can. I am still seriously considering doing the challenge on Bodybuilding.com that quiksylver is doing. If I think I am up to it. I gotta start somewhere. Besides, those before pics I took should be enough motivation to never look this way again.
DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!
ETA: It has really given me a mental jumpstart. I've been spot on with eating and exercise and I'm down 4.6 pounds in 8 days...
that's awesome!!!!0 -
Susieq_1994 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.
There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.
What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here.
As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.
One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there.
That's interesting. I do know that the husband of a friend of mine did the same (3 year job in Saudi Arabia). My friend did not accompany him. The money was too good for him to turn down the opportunity and they were able to tuck away a pretty sizable nest egg during those 3 years.0 -
kellyjellybellyjelly wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »kellyjellybellyjelly wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »I ad match and coupon every week. There are only a handful of things I will pay full price for. Hence the stock pile, that way I never pay full price by having enough to last me the sale cycles.
Just in case you don't get into other threads on here wanted to let you know that there is now a limited edition Pumpkin Pie Quest Bar.
I bought a box at GNC today & they're 220 calories.
I bought a box on Amazon a couple days ago. They should be here soon!!!
I laughed when the lady at GNC told me they were shipped in a special box & she said they had no idea what was in the box. She said on the box it said open this box & get terminated. Quest is serious about their limited edition products.
Apparently some posters in another thread said Quest changed their recipe & the bars don't taste the same. I must have some of the old bars, because I haven't noticed a taste change yet. Then again the only two bars I usually eat are Cookie Dough & White Chocolate Raspberry.
I work in 3rd party logistics. One of our customers is Apple. The amount of security around the new iPhones shipped to our buildings before they're released is CRAZY!
I remember a colleague worked for a company that shipped out the Harry Potter books as they were released, too. Crazy amount of security around that, too.0 -
CountessKitteh wrote: »GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!
I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!
Yay!! Good luck!!0 -
Susieq_1994 wrote: »TigerNY128 wrote: »There seem to be a few of us that lift on here...I'm thinking of starting a lifting thread in the batcave so we can share tips, goals, accomplishments, stories...anyone interested in that??
Yes!!!Susieq_1994 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.pofoster21 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »kelly_c_77 wrote: »Susieq_1994 wrote: »MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.
I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.
Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.
My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"
When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!
What in the world?!
I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!
It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!
That's alarming!
You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.
"Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."
Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)
She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.
A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.
There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.
What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here.
As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.
One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there.
Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).
Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.
I will, we are all warning her what to expect. She refuses to not go with her husband, he has to go or find another company to work for at this point.
Up to this point I have just found this conversation fascinating. I thought she was going to work there alone and her husband was trying to dissuade her. I would find It difficult to live in a place where I had to be escorted every where I go. I would find it stifling to wear cloths that entirely covers me in such hot weather. I can't imagine what it would be like. However......there is no where I'd rather be than with my husband. If that meant adjusting to different laws and expectations so be it. I have found joy in every place that I have lived. I imagine Susie that there are many great and intreating things about Saudi Arabia. I have read some on this post and have been fascinated.
I guess that I would like to be warned what I was getting into, but I would also like to know some of the interesting things that women do to keep busy and entertained. What are the things that give you joy and entertain you?
I hope that I am not intruding to much into the conversation. Thanks for letting me.
Sorry to say, I find next to nothing here that entertains me. I walk in the malls because it's too hot to walk outside, and I enjoy walking. There are some nice traditional restaurants, if you like that kind of thing. It seems to me that women here occupy a lot of their time with shopping, which I don't enjoy.
As peleroja mentioned, the lady in question might be able to work, but that will require a lot of hoop-jumping. Coming for her husband's job means she will be on an "accompanying dependent" visa, not on a working visa. If she wants to work, she would have to find a job that would be willing to hire her, start the visa process, then exit and re-enter the country with her new visa. As mentioned, women don't usually have to cover themselves within their compounds, but they do have to when they exit them.
Yes, this is what she was told when she asked if she would be able to work, and they decided she would not work.0
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