Can you really eat a burger?
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so just because you have to have the 800 calorie burger means that we all do?
So just because you're satisfied with Demolition Man portions means that we all are?your maintenance level is a handful of nuts? What is that like 400 calories???
Please read more thoroughly. I said maintenance level would be a few handfuls of nuts. About 1200-1500 calories.
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maillemaker wrote: »so just because you have to have the 800 calorie burger means that we all do?
So just because you're satisfied with Demolition Man portions means that we all are?your maintenance level is a handful of nuts? What is that like 400 calories???
Please read more thoroughly. I said maintenance level would be a few handfuls of nuts. About 1200-1500 calories.
Na, I like big portions and my dinner is typically 1000+ calories, but I don't extrapolate that out to everyone else in the population.
how is a grown mans maintenance level 1400 calories? I am a 35 year old male and my maintenance calories are about 2700 ....0 -
*catches up on thread*
Man, now I want to go to Smashburger0 -
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You guys are the only ones applying things to everyone. And I am not making extreme arguments. It is a fact that most people can't eat high calorie foods every day. Most people can't afford that almost 700 calorie food (burger or whatever) every day. Stop making what I say extreme. Yippee that you can.
All things in moderation. Period.
I'm not trying to argue--I mean, this is a discussion about burgers, seems like it ought to be good-natured!--but I honestly don't understand what makes a burger especially high calorie compared to any other meat plus starch/grains component of a meal so I'm trying to better understand. I usually don't eat the bun (because I'd rather have potatoes or sweet potatoes), but the meat portion is no higher calorie than most meat options of similar size. (If I did eat the bun I wouldn't also eat potatoes, so the calories would even out.) Pork shoulder or lamb shanks are going to be higher calorie meat options for lower protein for the calories, and yet I fit those in too--yes, I wouldn't want a burger every day because, well, boring, but I'm wondering if the fact that you don't do non turkey burgers (if I'm following) is causing you to assume it's a higher calorie meal inherently than it is. And as Need2Exerc1se* says, add some veggies and the macros/balanced meal consideration works just fine. That's what I do with any dinner and burgers are no exception.
Edit: hmm, I wonder if some of this is just different ideas about how to create a lower calorie meal. I know some like to cut calories on meat by focusing on the least calorie options like skinless, boneless chicken breast or white fish and for me it's easy enough to fit in a huge variety of meat options and just reduce higher calorie sides and add more veggies. So a burger--especially a leaner one, but really any made at home--is not going to seem a high calorie option.
*Burgers have brought us together!0 -
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eat 2, then go work it off0
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Wow just read all of this and the only thing I got out of it is I want this now:0
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butterfli7o wrote: »
And a cold frosty beer to go with! Yum!0 -
You guys are the only ones applying things to everyone. And I am not making extreme arguments. It is a fact that most people can't eat high calorie foods every day. Most people can't afford that almost 700 calorie food (burger or whatever) every day. Stop making what I say extreme. Yippee that you can.
All things in moderation. Period.
Why do you refuse to acknowledge that there are many burger options that aren't high calorie?
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maillemaker wrote: »so just because you have to have the 800 calorie burger means that we all do?
So just because you're satisfied with Demolition Man portions means that we all are?your maintenance level is a handful of nuts? What is that like 400 calories???
Please read more thoroughly. I said maintenance level would be a few handfuls of nuts. About 1200-1500 calories.
My maintenance will be around 1300 calories and I'm a 5'1" 52 year old woman.
Try pulling the other one.
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janejellyroll wrote: »
You guys are the only ones applying things to everyone. And I am not making extreme arguments. It is a fact that most people can't eat high calorie foods every day. Most people can't afford that almost 700 calorie food (burger or whatever) every day. Stop making what I say extreme. Yippee that you can.
All things in moderation. Period.
Why do you refuse to acknowledge that there are many burger options that aren't high calorie?
You know, I read through to the end of the whole thread hoping someone would make this point.
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RockstarWilson wrote: »Where people go overboard is taking in too many macros at once. Sure, have that 800 calorie burger, but if you are hungry in 4 hours, and you honor that, then where did that food go? Did it get used, or stored? In 4 hours, you would have to be very busy or vety overweight, bc bmr awake is usually in the 100-150 per hour range for people that are within 100 lbs overweight. So, if you are eating again, and the body hasnt fully metabolized that burger, that is where the burger will make you more overweight. It is why chips, hotdogs, ice cream, and soda make people overweight. They just have too much of it and it doesnt get metabolized and used as energy.
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What is wrong with a burger? If you pulled a burger apart and served it on a plate it would look like a decent meal.
You got a bit of meat with some BBQ sauce. Some salad including lettuce, onion, beetroot, tomato etc and a bread roll.
I still think people put to much emphasis on brands etc. like if you ate home made bacon and eggs and cheese on toast your having a good breakfast but if you have a bacon and egg mcmuffins or the subway equivalent your eating junk food and that's bad some how.0 -
My 1/4 lb bacon cheeseburger plus tomato and onion = 379 calories and 34 grams of protein. granted it is sans bun but i already said i usually skip the bun anyway.
yummmmmmmmmmmmmm. and i still have almost 200 calories left.0 -
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emily_stew wrote: »GiveMeCoffee wrote: »Wow just read all of this and the only thing I got out of it is I want this now:
Is that the mythical 1000 calorie burger that everyone keeps referring to?
Because I want that. Calories be dammed
No clue how many are in that and wouldn't care right now cause it looks good
Now a burger like this and I might need to bring friends0 -
maillemaker wrote: »Exactly.
There's burgers, and then there's burgers.
A burger to me is a Little Bacon Cheesburger "All The Way" from Five Guys. That's 783 calories.
Can you eat it? Of course you can. It's about half my daily allotment of calories. So yeah, you can eat it - if you want to eat nothing else for half the day.
The sad reality of weight loss is that this kind of eating that we have grown accustomed to as normal is preposterous and absurd. It's heartbreaking to realize that in the future my entire maintenance allotment of calories is going to be the equivalent of a few handfuls of nuts. A Wendy's single is going to be an extravagance.
Seriously??? You only get 1566 calories a day? You're a man, that's ridiculous.0 -
emily_stew wrote: »maillemaker wrote: »How many people are going to eat a Wendy's single and be satisfied? 300 calorie burger at home is also very unlikely. I make burgers (albeit turkey) at home fairly regularly and by the time you add a bun and toppings....a lot of calories. And am I going to want just the burger for lunch? Nope. I don't think most people are that different.
Exactly.
There's burgers, and then there's burgers.
A burger to me is a Little Bacon Cheesburger "All The Way" from Five Guys. That's 783 calories.
Can you eat it? Of course you can. It's about half my daily allotment of calories. So yeah, you can eat it - if you want to eat nothing else for half the day.
The sad reality of weight loss is that this kind of eating that we have grown accustomed to as normal is preposterous and absurd. It's heartbreaking to realize that in the future my entire maintenance allotment of calories is going to be the equivalent of a few handfuls of nuts. A Wendy's single is going to be an extravagance.
You're probably not eating enough if 783 calories is about half your daily allotment. I eat 1800 calories a day and lose weight. I'm a fairly sedentary woman. You're a dude, you can eat more and lose weight without starving yourself.mamapeach910 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
You guys are the only ones applying things to everyone. And I am not making extreme arguments. It is a fact that most people can't eat high calorie foods every day. Most people can't afford that almost 700 calorie food (burger or whatever) every day. Stop making what I say extreme. Yippee that you can.
All things in moderation. Period.
Why do you refuse to acknowledge that there are many burger options that aren't high calorie?
You know, I read through to the end of the whole thread hoping someone would make this point.
When he returns to the thread he will say that he has suffered a metabolic slowdown and post some study about why obese people fail at losing weight, but they have to be "obese enough" and for long enough. Apparently that user goes into starvation mode after 5 days of caloric deficit. His words not mine. And it's funny because if we consider that that the man is like 340 lbs and somehow claims his TDEE is so low. But don't worry, I'm sure here appear here with some true gold. Comedic gold!
From his profile:
BMR: 2428
TDEE: 2914
Daily Calorie Goal based on 20% calorie reduction: 2331
Estimated weight loss: 1.2 pounds per week
But his diary is set for 1770 about the same as mine0 -
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GiveMeCoffee wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »maillemaker wrote: »How many people are going to eat a Wendy's single and be satisfied? 300 calorie burger at home is also very unlikely. I make burgers (albeit turkey) at home fairly regularly and by the time you add a bun and toppings....a lot of calories. And am I going to want just the burger for lunch? Nope. I don't think most people are that different.
Exactly.
There's burgers, and then there's burgers.
A burger to me is a Little Bacon Cheesburger "All The Way" from Five Guys. That's 783 calories.
Can you eat it? Of course you can. It's about half my daily allotment of calories. So yeah, you can eat it - if you want to eat nothing else for half the day.
The sad reality of weight loss is that this kind of eating that we have grown accustomed to as normal is preposterous and absurd. It's heartbreaking to realize that in the future my entire maintenance allotment of calories is going to be the equivalent of a few handfuls of nuts. A Wendy's single is going to be an extravagance.
You're probably not eating enough if 783 calories is about half your daily allotment. I eat 1800 calories a day and lose weight. I'm a fairly sedentary woman. You're a dude, you can eat more and lose weight without starving yourself.mamapeach910 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
You guys are the only ones applying things to everyone. And I am not making extreme arguments. It is a fact that most people can't eat high calorie foods every day. Most people can't afford that almost 700 calorie food (burger or whatever) every day. Stop making what I say extreme. Yippee that you can.
All things in moderation. Period.
Why do you refuse to acknowledge that there are many burger options that aren't high calorie?
You know, I read through to the end of the whole thread hoping someone would make this point.
When he returns to the thread he will say that he has suffered a metabolic slowdown and post some study about why obese people fail at losing weight, but they have to be "obese enough" and for long enough. Apparently that user goes into starvation mode after 5 days of caloric deficit. His words not mine. And it's funny because if we consider that that the man is like 340 lbs and somehow claims his TDEE is so low. But don't worry, I'm sure here appear here with some true gold. Comedic gold!
From his profile:
BMR: 2428
TDEE: 2914
Daily Calorie Goal based on 20% calorie reduction: 2331
Estimated weight loss: 1.2 pounds per week
But his diary is set for 1770 about the same as mine
I'm going to assume his TDEE on Day 1 is 2914, then after 5 days as he claims he goes into starvation mode then BAM........TDEE of 1600. Or 1500. Or 1700. Or whatever he claims. Dreaded starvation mode.
Well it's much more diet like to whine how miserable it is. Oh no an extravagant calorie meal is a wendy's single... yea okay good luck with that0 -
Five Guy's lettuce wrap bacon cheese burger - 660 cal, without the bacon, 580
I spose the kind with a bun instead of lettuce is higher, but don't eat bread, don't care. Still not sure why someone couldn't fit that in, though. It's not like it's a nutrition-less sugar bomb like people are usually arguing about.0 -
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I love a good burger but wtf is everyone obsession with Five Guys. Every time I've seen one of my partnes at work eat one it looks like a ball of grease that absorbed the bun.
Probably an added bonus of not having the bun. That said, I think they're on the drier side than most. They're not the be all and end all to me, but I grew up with the original Culver's, so that spoiled me. The franchise locations are nowhere near the original.0 -
Definitely! I prefer making and grilling my own over going out for burgers because they're way lower in calories and sodium when home made, but either way there's no reason you can't fit it in.0
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