"Clean Eating" ??

jtabiolo
jtabiolo Posts: 50
edited November 14 in Food and Nutrition
There is no such thing as clean eating!! Calorie is a calorie. Your body cannot tell a difference between a donut and a banana.
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  • FunkenWagnel
    FunkenWagnel Posts: 131 Member
    I'm not a clean eater, but my body can definitely tell the difference between a banana and a donut (mostly in how hard it hits my stomach!). Calories aren't the be all and end all. I eat both bananas and donuts, but I don't eat donuts very often.
  • kimny72
    kimny72 Posts: 16,011 Member
    You really should have used the search function to find the previous 2.75 million threads about clean eating that have all devolved into name calling, rage quits, cat gifs, and eventually had to be closed by the moderators.
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
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  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
    okay
  • jtabiolo
    jtabiolo Posts: 50
    As far as someone trying to lose weight, they use the phrase "clean eating" or "healthy foods" is absurd. Life is all about choices. As long as it fits your macros. Enjoy life while making the right choices.
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    jtabiolo wrote: »
    As far as someone trying to lose weight, they use the phrase "clean eating" or "healthy foods" is absurd. Life is all about choices. As long as it fits your macros. Enjoy life while making the right choices.

    While you are correct, this topic comes up quite a lot and is pretty well established on here.

    Most of the successful people on here will agree with you, but there are many that will link Mercola articles to try and prove you wrong and accuse you of eating nothing but twinkies all day long.

    Welcome to MFP :flowerforyou:
  • FunkenWagnel
    FunkenWagnel Posts: 131 Member
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    I do agree with you 90%, but don't forget about micro nutrients.

    This!
  • jtabiolo
    jtabiolo Posts: 50
    Lol Alyssa. Thank you. Pu_239. Well yea of course.
  • Cryptonomnomicon
    Cryptonomnomicon Posts: 848 Member
    edited March 2015
    jtabiolo wrote: »
    There is no such thing as clean eating!! Calorie is a calorie. Your body cannot tell a difference between a donut and a banana.

    I don't know, I've heard some stories about where people put bananas. ;)

  • compgeek812
    compgeek812 Posts: 57 Member
    kimny72 wrote: »
    You really should have used the search function to find the previous 2.75 million threads about clean eating that have all devolved into name calling, rage quits, cat gifs, and eventually had to be closed by the moderators.
    In for cat gifs

  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    edited March 2015
    kimny72 wrote: »
    You really should have used the search function to find the previous 2.75 million threads about clean eating that have all devolved into name calling, rage quits, cat gifs, and eventually had to be closed by the moderators.
    In for cat gifs

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  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    Hello.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
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  • tat2cookie
    tat2cookie Posts: 1,899 Member
    Calories are not equal and your body can tell the difference between a doughnut and a banana. There is a huge difference between eating 500 calories of fries and a 500 calorie "clean" meal. The fries are full of fats and carbs and little actual nutrient that will leave your body hungry, causing you to eat more. As where the "clean" meal has more nutrients that will actually feed your body, helping to it function better. A lot of people who are obese are actually found to have malnutrition because they eat empty calories and are constantly hungry because their body's aren't being fed properly. I'm not saying never ever eat a doughnut, or fries or what have you, but to say that it's the same as a banana is wrong.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    tat2cookie wrote: »
    There is a huge difference between eating 500 calories of fries and a 500 calorie "clean" meal.

    Will you share the definition of "clean" you are working from? Each advocate for declaring some foods "clean" and the rest "dirty" seems to be using a different definition.
  • angf0679
    angf0679 Posts: 1,120 Member
    edited March 2015
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  • MiltonAFC
    MiltonAFC Posts: 121 Member
    Maybe if you scrub down food with windex you'll get clean food.
  • tinascar2015
    tinascar2015 Posts: 413 Member
    jtabiolo wrote: »
    There is no such thing as clean eating!! Calorie is a calorie. Your body cannot tell a difference between a donut and a banana.


    True, but my brain tells me not to stop at one donut, but I can easily stop at one banana. And the banana is also more nutritious than a donut and doesn't make me fall asleep an hour later.
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
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  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    and here we go …world war III has been unleashed on a saturday morning..

    and yesI agree 100 calories donut = 100 calories banana
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    tat2cookie wrote: »
    There is a huge difference between eating 500 calories of fries and a 500 calorie "clean" meal.

    And there it is.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    edited March 2015
    tat2cookie wrote: »
    Calories are not equal and your body can tell the difference between a doughnut and a banana. There is a huge difference between eating 500 calories of fries and a 500 calorie "clean" meal. The fries are full of fats and carbs and little actual nutrient that will leave your body hungry, causing you to eat more. As where the "clean" meal has more nutrients that will actually feed your body, helping to it function better. A lot of people who are obese are actually found to have malnutrition because they eat empty calories and are constantly hungry because their body's aren't being fed properly. I'm not saying never ever eat a doughnut, or fries or what have you, but to say that it's the same as a banana is wrong.

    ummm no ..

    calories are units of energy …so 100 calories of a banana = 100 calories of a donut ….they are, however, not the same nutritionally..

    however, if one has a donut in the morning and the rest of their day is nutrient dense foods and they hit their macros/micros/calorie target then it does not matter.

    overall diet and dosage is what matters.

    and before anyone even says it…I am not advocating a diet of donuts and ice cream all day...
  • ForecasterJason
    ForecasterJason Posts: 2,577 Member
    tat2cookie wrote: »
    Calories are not equal and your body can tell the difference between a doughnut and a banana. There is a huge difference between eating 500 calories of fries and a 500 calorie "clean" meal. The fries are full of fats and carbs and little actual nutrient that will leave your body hungry, causing you to eat more. As where the "clean" meal has more nutrients that will actually feed your body, helping to it function better. A lot of people who are obese are actually found to have malnutrition because they eat empty calories and are constantly hungry because their body's aren't being fed properly. I'm not saying never ever eat a doughnut, or fries or what have you, but to say that it's the same as a banana is wrong.
    Agreed. I don't think anyone's saying that it's bad to eat a doughnut. But I don't know how it can be said that the body can't tell the difference between the two when the banana supplies the body with a lot more nutrients.

  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    tat2cookie wrote: »
    Calories are not equal and your body can tell the difference between a doughnut and a banana. There is a huge difference between eating 500 calories of fries and a 500 calorie "clean" meal. The fries are full of fats and carbs and little actual nutrient that will leave your body hungry, causing you to eat more. As where the "clean" meal has more nutrients that will actually feed your body, helping to it function better. A lot of people who are obese are actually found to have malnutrition because they eat empty calories and are constantly hungry because their body's aren't being fed properly. I'm not saying never ever eat a doughnut, or fries or what have you, but to say that it's the same as a banana is wrong.
    Agreed. I don't think anyone's saying that it's bad to eat a doughnut. But I don't know how it can be said that the body can't tell the difference between the two when the banana supplies the body with a lot more nutrients.

    because 100 calories of energy in banana = 100 calories of energy in donut..

    you are conflating nutrients and energy….they are not the same..

    so lets review..

    100 calories of the banana = 100 calories in the donut

    100 calories of banana > nutrients than donut

    in closing, there are no "empty" calories. All calories are a measure/unit of energy. So lets just stop with that ridiculousness too.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,262 Member
    tat2cookie wrote: »
    Calories are not equal and your body can tell the difference between a doughnut and a banana. There is a huge difference between eating 500 calories of fries and a 500 calorie "clean" meal. The fries are full of fats and carbs and little actual nutrient that will leave your body hungry, causing you to eat more. As where the "clean" meal has more nutrients that will actually feed your body, helping to it function better. A lot of people who are obese are actually found to have malnutrition because they eat empty calories and are constantly hungry because their body's aren't being fed properly. I'm not saying never ever eat a doughnut, or fries or what have you, but to say that it's the same as a banana is wrong.
    Agreed. I don't think anyone's saying that it's bad to eat a doughnut. But I don't know how it can be said that the body can't tell the difference between the two when the banana supplies the body with a lot more nutrients.
    Because of digestion. All food pretty much gets reduced to it's nutritional elements and individual foods aren't a recognizable element of that process. If for example a person had not supplied their body with the proper nutritional requirements for a day or two, then ate fries or a donut or both, those nutritional elements within those foods would be digested and metabolized adding to any nutrition already delivered which could and would help meet an individuals nutritional needs. In the context of a days worth of food, calorie dense foods have less of an ability to deliver those nutritional needs, but that has nothing to do with the actual nutrition value differences in food, whether deemed good or bad, it's all about context and dosage.....it really can't be that hard to understand, could it?
  • galgenstrick
    galgenstrick Posts: 2,086 Member
    edited March 2015
    tat2cookie wrote: »
    There is a huge difference between eating 500 calories of fries and a 500 calorie "clean" meal.

    Will you share the definition of "clean" you are working from? Each advocate for declaring some foods "clean" and the rest "dirty" seems to be using a different definition.


    "If it tastes like dirt... You know it's good." Lol!

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=W3w4EcuyvIY
  • monikker
    monikker Posts: 322 Member
    Pretty sure the trans fats and bleached white flour in the donut aren't good. I'm craving the donut because chemicals=yum but give me the banana please.
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  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    tat2cookie wrote: »
    Calories are not equal and your body can tell the difference between a doughnut and a banana. There is a huge difference between eating 500 calories of fries and a 500 calorie "clean" meal. The fries are full of fats and carbs and little actual nutrient that will leave your body hungry, causing you to eat more. As where the "clean" meal has more nutrients that will actually feed your body, helping to it function better. A lot of people who are obese are actually found to have malnutrition because they eat empty calories and are constantly hungry because their body's aren't being fed properly. I'm not saying never ever eat a doughnut, or fries or what have you, but to say that it's the same as a banana is wrong.
    Agreed. I don't think anyone's saying that it's bad to eat a doughnut. But I don't know how it can be said that the body can't tell the difference between the two when the banana supplies the body with a lot more nutrients.
    Because of digestion. All food pretty much gets reduced to it's nutritional elements and individual foods aren't a recognizable element of that process. If for example a person had not supplied their body with the proper nutritional requirements for a day or two, then ate fries or a donut or both, those nutritional elements within those foods would be digested and metabolized adding to any nutrition already delivered which could and would help meet an individuals nutritional needs. In the context of a days worth of food, calorie dense foods have less of an ability to deliver those nutritional needs, but that has nothing to do with the actual nutrition value differences in food, whether deemed good or bad, it's all about context and dosage.....it really can't be that hard to understand, could it?

    Quoted for awesomeness.
  • TheVirgoddess
    TheVirgoddess Posts: 4,535 Member
    tat2cookie wrote: »
    Calories are not equal and your body can tell the difference between a doughnut and a banana. There is a huge difference between eating 500 calories of fries and a 500 calorie "clean" meal. The fries are full of fats and carbs and little actual nutrient that will leave your body hungry, causing you to eat more. As where the "clean" meal has more nutrients that will actually feed your body, helping to it function better. A lot of people who are obese are actually found to have malnutrition because they eat empty calories and are constantly hungry because their body's aren't being fed properly. I'm not saying never ever eat a doughnut, or fries or what have you, but to say that it's the same as a banana is wrong.

    Why does it have to be 500 calories of fries, vs a 500 calorie meal, though? Can't we do a 500 calorie meal (with a side of fries) vs a 500 calorie "clean" meal? Wouldn't that be a more accurate comparison?
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