"Clean Eating" ??
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Pretty sure the trans fats and bleached white flour in the donut aren't good. I'm craving the donut because chemicals=yum but give me the banana please.
I don't like donuts that much. (On occasion they hit the spot, like that malasada I mentioned eating in one of the 845 clean eating threads from yesterday.)
I also realize that chemicals are in everything--everything, including you, is made up of chemicals--so the "donuts are tasty because chemicals" thing I just don't comprehend.
At any rate, here are the ingredients in a doughnut (pretty standard recipe, there are many, obviously, these are pumpkin, because that sounds good to me at the moment):
all-purpose flour
baking powder
baking soda (uh-oh)
salt
cinnamon
ginger
nutmeg
cloves
sugar
butter
eggs
vanilla extract
buttermilk
pumpkin
oil for deep frying
Now, I personally limit (but do not eliminate) my consumption of fried things, but I'm not sure what makes this doughnut so terribly toxic assuming you eat it (as doughnuts are meant to be eaten) not as your major nutrient source, but as a dessert or snack that makes up a small portion of your calories for the day or week.
I guess I'm reading the above as claiming the doughnut is horrible because of trans-fats--which as you can see (and should be obvious) are not intrinsic to a doughnut--and because of flour (which is just odd).
On that basis, I am probably going to die soon, since I had some naan last night, and I'm reasonably sure it contained flour. (I managed to exercise a lot so far today, but I imagine that's just a fluke and I actually feel terrible, unbeknownst to me.)
For the record, not celiac.0 -
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lemurcat12 wrote: »
On that basis, I am probably going to die soon, since I had some naan last night, and I'm reasonably sure it contained flour. (I managed to exercise a lot so far today, but I imagine that's just a fluke and I actually feel terrible, unbeknownst to me.)
For the record, not celiac.
OMG, flour??? You mean that stuff we've been turning wheat into for at least 12000 years?? Our bodies can't possibly handle that!!
Yes, well aware that our modern flour is a hell of a lot more refined that the stuff the Natufians were nomming down on, but you try making flour with these suckers...
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Also, it's not impossible to make your own doughnuts and bake them. You can even use alternative flours if you don't want to eat wheat. And use honey or stevia instead of sugar.0
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Phoenix_Down wrote: »Phoenix_Down wrote: »Lissa_Kaye wrote: »The body requires more to function than just calories. There are things found in a banana in greater quantity than a doughnut like, vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients.
But say you've met your bodies required nutrient requirements and just need some more calories to fuel yourself. No harm no foul, I'd choose the donut... Assuming it's chocolate glazed.
Phoenix_down -- How would you know for sure you've met your individual nutrient requirements for a given time period? Do you think the only nutrients we need are the ones which have a documented DRI?
Please show me your notes on how YOU keep track of yours, since you know all about this. Mine...
I don't track mine. So I wouldn't assume I'd "met my bodies required nutrient requirements and just need some more calories." I was just wondering how you do since YOU made the claim. Sorry to bother you with a question.
I'm not dead of magnesium deficiency or Vitamin B deficiency...so I guess absent any evidence to the contrary, I'm gonna assume I'm good.0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »
On that basis, I am probably going to die soon, since I had some naan last night, and I'm reasonably sure it contained flour. (I managed to exercise a lot so far today, but I imagine that's just a fluke and I actually feel terrible, unbeknownst to me.)
For the record, not celiac.
OMG, flour??? You mean that stuff we've been turning wheat into for at least 12000 years?? Our bodies can't possibly handle that!!
Yes, well aware that our modern flour is a hell of a lot more refined that the stuff the Natufians were nomming down on, but you try making flour with these suckers...
Is it wrong that I look at that and see donuts?0 -
ceoverturf wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »
On that basis, I am probably going to die soon, since I had some naan last night, and I'm reasonably sure it contained flour. (I managed to exercise a lot so far today, but I imagine that's just a fluke and I actually feel terrible, unbeknownst to me.)
For the record, not celiac.
OMG, flour??? You mean that stuff we've been turning wheat into for at least 12000 years?? Our bodies can't possibly handle that!!
Yes, well aware that our modern flour is a hell of a lot more refined that the stuff the Natufians were nomming down on, but you try making flour with these suckers...
Is it wrong that I look at that and see donuts?
So not wrong
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »
On that basis, I am probably going to die soon, since I had some naan last night, and I'm reasonably sure it contained flour. (I managed to exercise a lot so far today, but I imagine that's just a fluke and I actually feel terrible, unbeknownst to me.)
For the record, not celiac.
OMG, flour??? You mean that stuff we've been turning wheat into for at least 12000 years?? Our bodies can't possibly handle that!!
Yes, well aware that our modern flour is a hell of a lot more refined that the stuff the Natufians were nomming down on, but you try making flour with these suckers...
;-) Very cool.
It wasn't 12000 years ago, and their equipment was not identical, of course, but one branch of my family ran the first grain mill in their Iowa county back in the day. So when people say that clean eating means (a) no flour, and (b) eating like your great great (etc.) grandparents, I get confused.0 -
SnuggleSmacks wrote: »Also, it's not impossible to make your own doughnuts and bake them. You can even use alternative flours if you don't want to eat wheat. And use honey or stevia instead of sugar.
Yeah, I thought about using a baked doughnut recipe, but figured I could make the point even with fried.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »
On that basis, I am probably going to die soon, since I had some naan last night, and I'm reasonably sure it contained flour. (I managed to exercise a lot so far today, but I imagine that's just a fluke and I actually feel terrible, unbeknownst to me.)
For the record, not celiac.
OMG, flour??? You mean that stuff we've been turning wheat into for at least 12000 years?? Our bodies can't possibly handle that!!
Yes, well aware that our modern flour is a hell of a lot more refined that the stuff the Natufians were nomming down on, but you try making flour with these suckers...
;-) Very cool.
It wasn't 12000 years ago, and their equipment was not identical, of course, but one branch of my family ran the first grain mill in their Iowa county back in the day. So when people say that clean eating means (a) no flour, and (b) eating like your great great (etc.) grandparents, I get confused.
Cool. And yes, I can see how that is confusing. I come from a long line of market gardeners on my father's side dammit. That reminds me, I'm planning on putting in a veggie garden, is that going to negate my dirty eaters membership?? I'll still be buying produce I can't grow here in winter, that will most likely come from Australia, or at the very least the top of NZ, does the carbon footprint on that cancel out my gardening?
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I love clean eating. We were driving around, just finished getting my dogs nails clipped and I decided as were about to drive past an Italian Deli "Let's get some ravioli for tonight". We went in and after some looking around we decided we wanted basic cheese ravioli. I was going to get Lost er or Shrimp but decided I wanted cheese instead. She wanted fresh baked bread so we got some along with some fresh marinara. All of the food was fresh, just made and the place is family owned. CLEAN EATING!!!!!! It's the best.
Oh yeah, the bread suffered a little mishap. Bad the about fresh baked bread is the crumbs on the seat at the end of the drive.
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lyndsayfletch wrote: »tat2cookie wrote: »Calories are not equal and your body can tell the difference between a doughnut and a banana. There is a huge difference between eating 500 calories of fries and a 500 calorie "clean" meal. The fries are full of fats and carbs and little actual nutrient that will leave your body hungry, causing you to eat more. As where the "clean" meal has more nutrients that will actually feed your body, helping to it function better. A lot of people who are obese are actually found to have malnutrition because they eat empty calories and are constantly hungry because their body's aren't being fed properly. I'm not saying never ever eat a doughnut, or fries or what have you, but to say that it's the same as a banana is wrong.
This!! :-) iv just started eating a lot more fibrous foods and feel so much better....feel full for waaaaay longer, skin is clearing real nicely and I have so much more energy....my runs are a lot easier too! I'm all for eating the "right" things to fuel your body :-)
yea, not this….
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Lrdoflamancha wrote: »But.... but...but a pound of fat is heavier than a pound of muscle or butter or gold...
stop it...everybody knows butter is a carb. . . .gif please. . .anyone. . . . .anyone
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I love clean eating. We were driving around, just finished getting my dogs nails clipped and I decided as were about to drive past an Italian Deli "Let's get some ravioli for tonight". We went in and after some looking around we decided we wanted basic cheese ravioli. I was going to get Lost er or Shrimp but decided I wanted cheese instead. She wanted fresh baked bread so we got some along with some fresh marinara. All of the food was fresh, just made and the place is family owned. CLEAN EATING!!!!!! It's the best.
Oh yeah, the bread suffered a little mishap. Bad the about fresh baked bread is the crumbs on the seat at the end of the drive.
I would hope you cleaned your lap after getting out of the car from 'the bread mishap'
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_Terrapin_ wrote: »I love clean eating. We were driving around, just finished getting my dogs nails clipped and I decided as were about to drive past an Italian Deli "Let's get some ravioli for tonight". We went in and after some looking around we decided we wanted basic cheese ravioli. I was going to get Lost er or Shrimp but decided I wanted cheese instead. She wanted fresh baked bread so we got some along with some fresh marinara. All of the food was fresh, just made and the place is family owned. CLEAN EATING!!!!!! It's the best.
Oh yeah, the bread suffered a little mishap. Bad the about fresh baked bread is the crumbs on the seat at the end of the drive.
I would hope you cleaned your lap after getting out of the car from 'the bread mishap'
That's why I have a dog.
Wait........what????
Aha! So you admit you eat food. . . .I knew it.
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_Terrapin_ wrote: »
It's a tough job, but someone has to do it.0 -
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The team from the Guinness Book of World Records, long searching for something new to record an abundance of, arrives, exhausted and parched, at the vast expanse of the MFP forums. Each day, they see numerous posts about clean eating, the inhabitants of the expanse regularly warring against each other and leaving petty jabs all over the place. After recording these encounters for several years, the crew returns to the Guinness offices to add these ridiculous posts to its books.
CONGRATULATIONS EVERYBODY!!
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »By that same token, if I make doughnuts from freshly milled whole grains from a local mill, and sweeten them with local honey, wouldn't they be clean doughnuts?
Also, not dropped on the floor, not even once!
You mean, similar to these?
http://www.thegraciouspantry.com/clean-eating-doughnuts/
THAT is what drives me crazy about the "clean eating" people. A donut is fine, if you just slightly modify it. Life is so much easier with moderation than deprivation.0 -
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