"Clean Eating" ??
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MFP always delivers.Nony_Mouse wrote: »
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Is clean eating where you take a shower before you eat? What if I just wash my hands?0
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But.... but...but a pound of fat is heavier than a pound of muscle or butter or gold...0
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I'm a huge clean eater. I advocate that no one gets sick. Practice safe eating. Always wash your hands before handling such delicious foods because...
and if you think this is sabotage...you shouldn't turn on tv or walk outside cause...
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Lrdoflamancha wrote: »But.... but...but a pound of fat is heavier than a pound of muscle or butter or gold...
Not if I eat it first...wait, what were we talking about?0 -
What if I make my own fries with organic potatoes freshly harvested from my own garden, and hand-cut including the peels for fiber, and fried in EVOO? Doesn't that make the fries clean?
Plus, during this process, I wash the potatoes, and then don't even drop them on the floor or anything...0 -
By that same token, if I make doughnuts from freshly milled whole grains from a local mill, and sweeten them with local honey, wouldn't they be clean doughnuts?
Also, not dropped on the floor, not even once!0 -
A donut is definitely not the same nutritionally as a banana... That is ridiculous...0
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The body requires more to function than just calories. There are things found in a banana in greater quantity than a doughnut like, vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients.0
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Lissa_Kaye wrote: »The body requires more to function than just calories. There are things found in a banana in greater quantity than a doughnut like, vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients.
But say you've met your bodies required nutrient requirements and just need some more calories to fuel yourself. No harm no foul, I'd choose the donut... Assuming it's chocolate glazed.0 -
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tat2cookie wrote: »Calories are not equal and your body can tell the difference between a doughnut and a banana. There is a huge difference between eating 500 calories of fries and a 500 calorie "clean" meal. The fries are full of fats and carbs and little actual nutrient that will leave your body hungry, causing you to eat more. As where the "clean" meal has more nutrients that will actually feed your body, helping to it function better. A lot of people who are obese are actually found to have malnutrition because they eat empty calories and are constantly hungry because their body's aren't being fed properly. I'm not saying never ever eat a doughnut, or fries or what have you, but to say that it's the same as a banana is wrong.
This!! :-) iv just started eating a lot more fibrous foods and feel so much better....feel full for waaaaay longer, skin is clearing real nicely and I have so much more energy....my runs are a lot easier too! I'm all for eating the "right" things to fuel your body :-)0 -
True, I just hate when people think the nutritional profile is remotely the samePhoenix_Down wrote: »Lissa_Kaye wrote: »The body requires more to function than just calories. There are things found in a banana in greater quantity than a doughnut like, vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients.
But say you've met your bodies required nutrient requirements and just need some more calories to fuel yourself. No harm no foul, I'd choose the donut... Assuming it's chocolate glazed.
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Lissa_Kaye wrote: »The body requires more to function than just calories. There are things found in a banana in greater quantity than a doughnut like, vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients.
Grains are devoid of vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients?
ETA: I checked. Doughnuts actually have a nice chunk of iron (around 10% RDA, depending on brand) and magnesium, and bits of other nutrients as well.
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lyndsayfletch wrote: »tat2cookie wrote: »Calories are not equal and your body can tell the difference between a doughnut and a banana. There is a huge difference between eating 500 calories of fries and a 500 calorie "clean" meal. The fries are full of fats and carbs and little actual nutrient that will leave your body hungry, causing you to eat more. As where the "clean" meal has more nutrients that will actually feed your body, helping to it function better. A lot of people who are obese are actually found to have malnutrition because they eat empty calories and are constantly hungry because their body's aren't being fed properly. I'm not saying never ever eat a doughnut, or fries or what have you, but to say that it's the same as a banana is wrong.
This!! :-) iv just started eating a lot more fibrous foods and feel so much better....feel full for waaaaay longer, skin is clearing real nicely and I have so much more energy....my runs are a lot easier too! I'm all for eating the "right" things to fuel your body :-)
Wanna know what our pre-race meal is? Pizza. It was an accident, but now it's tradition.
I also have more skin issues than I used to, and eat "cleaner" than I ever have.
And this, ladies and gents, is why anecdotal evidence is basically worthless as proof of anything.
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Lissa_Kaye wrote: »True, I just hate when people think the nutritional profile is remotely the samePhoenix_Down wrote: »Lissa_Kaye wrote: »The body requires more to function than just calories. There are things found in a banana in greater quantity than a doughnut like, vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients.
But say you've met your bodies required nutrient requirements and just need some more calories to fuel yourself. No harm no foul, I'd choose the donut... Assuming it's chocolate glazed.
I think it's a bold statement just clarifying that calories in vs out and I do agree that there needs to be balance. Most often the people that say this though ere on the side of moderation. I have yet to see anyone praise the Twinkie diet =P
People often assume that eating say, an apple or some avacado with a salad automatically makes them healthy and that's just as wrong as assuming someone who eats a few slices of pizza or McDonald's makes them unhealthy.
It's all about overall diet and not individual foods. I've seen quite a few of the people who claim clean eating as their method of diet be almost mirror images of say iifym/moderation followers. It's just different names for the same thing . I would think most people aim to be healthy but there are those who like to throw away labels and enjoy their foods while doing so as well.0 -
A donut is definitely not the same nutritionally as a banana... That is ridiculous...
It is - good thing no one actually said that.
What was said, and what is correct, is that as far as energy goes (because that's what a calorie is) all calories are equal.
It's like saying all cups are equal - they are. Some, of course, have different things IN them, that make up the cup, but that doesn't change the fact that they still are cups.
Nutritionally, we all know we need certain vital minerals and nutrients and those can be found more readily in certain foods. That should go without saying, and shouldn't have to be explained every single time this conversation comes up.
Nutrition isn't the only reason people eat food though - I do so for pleasure, too. I like food. So once I've eaten what I need to satisfy my body's needs, I can fill the rest in with whatever I'd like. Because calories are calories and once you've met your nutritional needs, you don't get extra points for choosing a banana over a cookie. You'll just wind up eliminating the extra stuff via waste.0 -
Phoenix_Down wrote: »Lissa_Kaye wrote: »The body requires more to function than just calories. There are things found in a banana in greater quantity than a doughnut like, vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients.
But say you've met your bodies required nutrient requirements and just need some more calories to fuel yourself. No harm no foul, I'd choose the donut... Assuming it's chocolate glazed.
Phoenix_down -- How would you know for sure you've met your individual nutrient requirements for a given time period? Do you think the only nutrients we need are the ones which have a documented DRI?
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Personally, I tend to be lower in iron than potassium, so I should probably stick with the doughnut.0
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Phoenix_Down wrote: »Lissa_Kaye wrote: »The body requires more to function than just calories. There are things found in a banana in greater quantity than a doughnut like, vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients.
But say you've met your bodies required nutrient requirements and just need some more calories to fuel yourself. No harm no foul, I'd choose the donut... Assuming it's chocolate glazed.
Phoenix_down -- How would you know for sure you've met your individual nutrient requirements for a given time period? Do you think the only nutrients we need are the ones which have a documented DRI?
I don't have a 'rolling eyes' gif, so...
(Please note, I am not advocating that cats eat corn, donuts, or even bananas. They are obligate carnivores)0 -
So, I just checked...a Dunkin' Doughnuts bavarian creme filled doughnut is 270 cals, 8 g sugar, 3 g protein and 1 g fiber, with Vit. A and iron.
A medium Chiquita banana is 110 cals with 19 g sugar, 1 g protein, 3 g fiber and of course lots of potassium, some B vitamins and some C.
I prefer the option with less sugar and more protein, personally.0 -
lyndsayfletch wrote: »tat2cookie wrote: »Calories are not equal and your body can tell the difference between a doughnut and a banana. There is a huge difference between eating 500 calories of fries and a 500 calorie "clean" meal. The fries are full of fats and carbs and little actual nutrient that will leave your body hungry, causing you to eat more. As where the "clean" meal has more nutrients that will actually feed your body, helping to it function better. A lot of people who are obese are actually found to have malnutrition because they eat empty calories and are constantly hungry because their body's aren't being fed properly. I'm not saying never ever eat a doughnut, or fries or what have you, but to say that it's the same as a banana is wrong.
This!! :-) iv just started eating a lot more fibrous foods and feel so much better....feel full for waaaaay longer, skin is clearing real nicely and I have so much more energy....my runs are a lot easier too! I'm all for eating the "right" things to fuel your body :-)
Wanna know what our pre-race meal is? Pizza. It was an accident, but now it's tradition.
Mine is Indian food. Also originally an accident, but then it happened a couple more times, so I've decided to make it a tradition.
Pretty sure the Indian food I eat has lots of fats and carbs.
(Also puzzled by this new definition of "unclean" as "containing fats and carbs," but I've stopped expecting reason here.)
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Phoenix_Down wrote: »Lissa_Kaye wrote: »The body requires more to function than just calories. There are things found in a banana in greater quantity than a doughnut like, vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients.
But say you've met your bodies required nutrient requirements and just need some more calories to fuel yourself. No harm no foul, I'd choose the donut... Assuming it's chocolate glazed.
Phoenix_down -- How would you know for sure you've met your individual nutrient requirements for a given time period? Do you think the only nutrients we need are the ones which have a documented DRI?
Please show me your notes on how YOU keep track of yours, since you know all about this. Mine...
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Holy crap, @MrM27 I'm totes jealous!! That looks deliciously clean, and I bet it wasn't on the floor even once!0
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Phoenix_Down wrote: »Phoenix_Down wrote: »Lissa_Kaye wrote: »The body requires more to function than just calories. There are things found in a banana in greater quantity than a doughnut like, vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients.
But say you've met your bodies required nutrient requirements and just need some more calories to fuel yourself. No harm no foul, I'd choose the donut... Assuming it's chocolate glazed.
Phoenix_down -- How would you know for sure you've met your individual nutrient requirements for a given time period? Do you think the only nutrients we need are the ones which have a documented DRI?
Please show me your notes on how YOU keep track of yours, since you know all about this. Mine...
I don't track mine. So I wouldn't assume I'd "met my bodies required nutrient requirements and just need some more calories." I was just wondering how you do since YOU made the claim. Sorry to bother you with a question.0 -
Oh my gosh that bread. I can practically smell it.0
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Phoenix_Down wrote: »Phoenix_Down wrote: »Lissa_Kaye wrote: »The body requires more to function than just calories. There are things found in a banana in greater quantity than a doughnut like, vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients.
But say you've met your bodies required nutrient requirements and just need some more calories to fuel yourself. No harm no foul, I'd choose the donut... Assuming it's chocolate glazed.
Phoenix_down -- How would you know for sure you've met your individual nutrient requirements for a given time period? Do you think the only nutrients we need are the ones which have a documented DRI?
Please show me your notes on how YOU keep track of yours, since you know all about this. Mine...
I don't track mine. So I wouldn't assume I'd "met my bodies required nutrient requirements and just need some more calories." I was just wondering how you do since YOU made the claim. Sorry to bother you with a question.
Well, since they're impossible to track, I guess I'll never know . Sorry to bother you for an explanation0
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