Alkaline water?
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mumblemagic wrote: »
I call BS on a large amount of this post. "Liquid crystalline water" is surely just melted ice, for example. "Life force" is not a thing water has. When applying an electrical field to water you might get rid of some mineral ions but it does not become "aggressive, whatever that means.
That's not true. Water molecules can respond to sound and light. Living water is water’s liquid crystalline phase where the molecules create a repeating geometric pattern similar to the molecular pattern in a solid quartz crystal. Although the molecules remain mobile, they move together as a coherent “whole.” Ice has a crystalline form but so does water.
Dr. Gerald Pollack, professor of bioengineering at the University of Washington has provided significant evidence for water’s liquid crystalline structure. His research has demonstrated water’s capacity to form large zones of structured water. He has shown that this water has measurably different characteristics including: molecular stability, a negative electrical charge, greater viscosity, molecular alignment, and an enhanced ability to absorb certain spectra of light. He and others have provided evidence that the liquid crystalline phase of water is intimately connected with the generation of life.
Is this the dude that food babe got her "microwaved water is poisonous" bit?
In fairness, microwaved water is dangerous, but mainly from the potential for burns:
Without nucleation points it is possible for water heated in a microwave to superheat, i.e. have a molecular temperature above boiling point without actually changing state. You take the superheated water out of the microwave and stir it. This generates nucleation points and it all turns to steam in one go, exploding in your face. I have done this. It's not nice. But it is pretty.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_OXM4mr_i0
It only works with distilled water, as normal tap water still has impurities that act as nucleation points. However, if you heat and re-heat water in a kettle, the impurities fall out and create limescale. So if you have boiled your water multiple times in a kettle then you can potentially superheat it in the microwave.0 -
That's actually due to the voltage you have to put through the object first, not an aura.
Of course if you want to *really* fix your water so it's optimal for your body, you need to sprinkle a generous helping of dihydrogen monoxide or hydric acid in it.
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Every time I see another thread like this I say to myself (and sometimes post it) that this is the stupidest thing I have ever read on these forums. And then another thread (like this) tops it. I wonder what massive stupidity I will encounter here next week.0
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Every time I see another thread like this I say to myself (and sometimes post it) that this is the stupidest thing I have ever read on these forums. And then another thread (like this) tops it. I wonder what massive stupidity I will encounter here next week.
Follow Food Babe and Dr. Oz. Much of the woo stems from them.0 -
Every time I see another thread like this I say to myself (and sometimes post it) that this is the stupidest thing I have ever read on these forums. And then another thread (like this) tops it. I wonder what massive stupidity I will encounter here next week.
I've got an advanced degree in toxicology and am a licensed water treatment specialist; I have a facepalm concussion...
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PhD in Astrophysics - me too!Every time I see another thread like this I say to myself (and sometimes post it) that this is the stupidest thing I have ever read on these forums. And then another thread (like this) tops it. I wonder what massive stupidity I will encounter here next week.
I've got an advanced degree in toxicology and am a licensed water treatment specialist; I have a facepalm concussion...
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mumblemagic wrote: »
PhD in Astrophysics - me too!Every time I see another thread like this I say to myself (and sometimes post it) that this is the stupidest thing I have ever read on these forums. And then another thread (like this) tops it. I wonder what massive stupidity I will encounter here next week.
I've got an advanced degree in toxicology and am a licensed water treatment specialist; I have a facepalm concussion...
I'm an accountant and these types of posts even make me want to jump out a window.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »mumblemagic wrote: »
PhD in Astrophysics - me too!Every time I see another thread like this I say to myself (and sometimes post it) that this is the stupidest thing I have ever read on these forums. And then another thread (like this) tops it. I wonder what massive stupidity I will encounter here next week.
I've got an advanced degree in toxicology and am a licensed water treatment specialist; I have a facepalm concussion...
I'm an accountant and these types of posts even make me want to jump out a window.
Accountant ^5
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mumblemagic wrote: »
PhD in Astrophysics - me too!Every time I see another thread like this I say to myself (and sometimes post it) that this is the stupidest thing I have ever read on these forums. And then another thread (like this) tops it. I wonder what massive stupidity I will encounter here next week.
I've got an advanced degree in toxicology and am a licensed water treatment specialist; I have a facepalm concussion...
I'm just a mom with the ability to read critically and a healthy dose of skepticism and I can't get over some of the things I've read in this thread.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »mumblemagic wrote: »
PhD in Astrophysics - me too!Every time I see another thread like this I say to myself (and sometimes post it) that this is the stupidest thing I have ever read on these forums. And then another thread (like this) tops it. I wonder what massive stupidity I will encounter here next week.
I've got an advanced degree in toxicology and am a licensed water treatment specialist; I have a facepalm concussion...
I'm just a mom with the ability to read critically and a healthy dose of skepticism and I can't get over some of the things I've read in this thread.
I don't think there's any such thing as 'just a mom'. Motherhood looks too stressful to me from the outside....
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mumblemagic wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »mumblemagic wrote: »
PhD in Astrophysics - me too!Every time I see another thread like this I say to myself (and sometimes post it) that this is the stupidest thing I have ever read on these forums. And then another thread (like this) tops it. I wonder what massive stupidity I will encounter here next week.
I've got an advanced degree in toxicology and am a licensed water treatment specialist; I have a facepalm concussion...
I'm just a mom with the ability to read critically and a healthy dose of skepticism and I can't get over some of the things I've read in this thread.
I don't think there's any such thing as 'just a mom'. Motherhood looks too stressful to me from the outside....
I should go yell at water to blow off some steam. Oh wait, I might hurt its feelings.
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Just as long as it's not LA tap water...bleck!0
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Why? Distilled water is not good for you to drink... as it pulls out needed minerals like magnesium, calcium, and iron from your drinking water... which may be exactly what the "crusty stuff" is on the bottom of your distiller... either that or crap from your pipes, which has nothing to do with the water purification that your tap water source as in place in any regard... you don't just get your water straight from the water treatment plant... it most likely has to go through thousands of feet (if not a few miles) of distribution pipes before it gets to your tap....
There is no definitive proof that distilled water is bad for you. So we should drink all of the contaminants in the water just to get a trace amount of minerals?
You can get all of the minerals you need from food. There was a study done that showed how much tap water you'd have to drink each day to get your recommended daily allowance of minerals because the amounts of minerals in water were so small.
You'd have to drink the following:
676 eight ounce glasses of tap water to reach the daily RDA for calcium, 1,848 glasses for magnesium, and 848 glasses for iron.
What contaminants? There are typically more contaminants in the air you breathe and the organic food you presumably consume than in your tap water.... but whatever helps you sleep at night... everyone needs a security blanket.0 -
Oh my god... and here I thought I was the only one who had been introduced to the structured water nonsense (don't ask... it was a fitness "convention" thing that I went to with my grandmother that was full of woo).
Basically, the idea is that when water is in nature, i.e. running, it is "structured," which is defined as perfectly hexagonal. As soon as the water becomes removed from its "natural" state, this "structure" destabilizes and... something happens that's bad. Glassware is better than plastic, but you're not being optimally hydrated with unstructured water.
BUT! (and this part is important) you can restructure unstructured water by buying super expensive glass bottles that are made using the Fibonacci sequence (the Golden Ratio)! Voila! Your water is magic again.
I also learned about alfalfa supplements curing every ill you can possibly think of.
(Full disclosure: My grandmother bought my husband and I some of the glass bottles and they are neat looking, but definitely not magical.)0 -
mumblemagic wrote: »
PhD in Astrophysics - me too!Every time I see another thread like this I say to myself (and sometimes post it) that this is the stupidest thing I have ever read on these forums. And then another thread (like this) tops it. I wonder what massive stupidity I will encounter here next week.
I've got an advanced degree in toxicology and am a licensed water treatment specialist; I have a facepalm concussion...
Ohh are we throwing out credentials? Graduated with a degree in Geography, with minors in Math and Meteorology. I work for a municipal water department.0 -
Oh my god... and here I thought I was the only one who had been introduced to the structured water nonsense (don't ask... it was a fitness "convention" thing that I went to with my crazy grandmother that was full of woo).
Basically, the idea is that when water is in nature, i.e. running, it is "structured," which is defined as perfectly hexagonal. As soon as the water becomes removed from its "natural" state, this "structure" destabilizes and... something happens that's bad. Glassware is better than plastic, but you're not being optimally hydrated with unstructured water.
BUT! (and this part is important) you can restructure unstructured water by buying super expensive glass bottles that are made using the Fibonacci sequence (the Golden Ratio)! Voila! Your water is magic again.
I also learned about alfalfa supplements curing every ill you can possibly think of.
(Full disclosure: My grandmother bought my husband and I some of the glass bottles and they are neat looking, but definitely not magical.)
People hear this and actually believe it? I really wish we could take and post web cam pictures of ourselves so you could all see the look on my face right now. There really are no words.
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Does anyone drink alkaline water? I've recently started drinking Alkalife10 and I wanna hear from someone who has been drinking alkaline water for a while. What's the best brand? Is it better to have natural alkaline water or artificial?
Thanks for you help!
Stick to normal foods that cost normal amounts of money and are not hard to find.
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Why? Distilled water is not good for you to drink... as it pulls out needed minerals like magnesium, calcium, and iron from your drinking water... which may be exactly what the "crusty stuff" is on the bottom of your distiller... either that or crap from your pipes, which has nothing to do with the water purification that your tap water source as in place in any regard... you don't just get your water straight from the water treatment plant... it most likely has to go through thousands of feet (if not a few miles) of distribution pipes before it gets to your tap....
There is no definitive proof that distilled water is bad for you. So we should drink all of the contaminants in the water just to get a trace amount of minerals?
You can get all of the minerals you need from food. There was a study done that showed how much tap water you'd have to drink each day to get your recommended daily allowance of minerals because the amounts of minerals in water were so small.
You'd have to drink the following:
676 eight ounce glasses of tap water to reach the daily RDA for calcium, 1,848 glasses for magnesium, and 848 glasses for iron.
Water potential... Yes there is proof.
Advanced degree in water chemistry. Wow, I mean just wow.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »Oh my god... and here I thought I was the only one who had been introduced to the structured water nonsense (don't ask... it was a fitness "convention" thing that I went to with my crazy grandmother that was full of woo).
Basically, the idea is that when water is in nature, i.e. running, it is "structured," which is defined as perfectly hexagonal. As soon as the water becomes removed from its "natural" state, this "structure" destabilizes and... something happens that's bad. Glassware is better than plastic, but you're not being optimally hydrated with unstructured water.
BUT! (and this part is important) you can restructure unstructured water by buying super expensive glass bottles that are made using the Fibonacci sequence (the Golden Ratio)! Voila! Your water is magic again.
I also learned about alfalfa supplements curing every ill you can possibly think of.
(Full disclosure: My grandmother bought my husband and I some of the glass bottles and they are neat looking, but definitely not magical.)
People hear this and actually believe it? I really wish we could take and post web cam pictures of ourselves so you could all see the look on my face right now. There really are no words.
All I have to say is that even if I were unscrupulous enough to not mind making money off of snake oil, I don't think I could possibly have come up with this scheme in my wildest dreams.
And if I had, there's no way I could go through the sales spiel with a straight face. None.0 -
Why? Distilled water is not good for you to drink... as it pulls out needed minerals like magnesium, calcium, and iron from your drinking water... which may be exactly what the "crusty stuff" is on the bottom of your distiller... either that or crap from your pipes, which has nothing to do with the water purification that your tap water source as in place in any regard... you don't just get your water straight from the water treatment plant... it most likely has to go through thousands of feet (if not a few miles) of distribution pipes before it gets to your tap....
There is no definitive proof that distilled water is bad for you. So we should drink all of the contaminants in the water just to get a trace amount of minerals?
You can get all of the minerals you need from food. There was a study done that showed how much tap water you'd have to drink each day to get your recommended daily allowance of minerals because the amounts of minerals in water were so small.
You'd have to drink the following:
676 eight ounce glasses of tap water to reach the daily RDA for calcium, 1,848 glasses for magnesium, and 848 glasses for iron.
Water potential... Yes there is proof.
Advanced degree in water chemistry. Wow, I mean just wow.
What are you wow'ing about? Show me your indisputable proof that distilled water is harmful.0 -
In this kind of conversation it's not for anyone to have to explain a cry of bull, it's for the "new information" to prove why it's true.
You can't prove that the pebble in my back garden isn't what keeps the tigers away at night. But wouldn't you expect me to back up such a claim before accepting it as true?0 -
Why? Distilled water is not good for you to drink... as it pulls out needed minerals like magnesium, calcium, and iron from your drinking water... which may be exactly what the "crusty stuff" is on the bottom of your distiller... either that or crap from your pipes, which has nothing to do with the water purification that your tap water source as in place in any regard... you don't just get your water straight from the water treatment plant... it most likely has to go through thousands of feet (if not a few miles) of distribution pipes before it gets to your tap....
There is no definitive proof that distilled water is bad for you. So we should drink all of the contaminants in the water just to get a trace amount of minerals?
You can get all of the minerals you need from food. There was a study done that showed how much tap water you'd have to drink each day to get your recommended daily allowance of minerals because the amounts of minerals in water were so small.
You'd have to drink the following:
676 eight ounce glasses of tap water to reach the daily RDA for calcium, 1,848 glasses for magnesium, and 848 glasses for iron.
Water potential... Yes there is proof.
Advanced degree in water chemistry. Wow, I mean just wow.
What are you wow'ing about? Show me your indisputable proof that distilled water is harmful.
Put a bunch of fish in a fish tank full of RO water and see how well they fair.0 -
^ not saying that distilled water is "bad" for you - heck, I had no choice but to drink it for many years due to where I lived.
However! I'm still waiting for the answer to how this viscous charged magical water is good for you as compared to normal "aggressive" water0 -
Why? Distilled water is not good for you to drink... as it pulls out needed minerals like magnesium, calcium, and iron from your drinking water... which may be exactly what the "crusty stuff" is on the bottom of your distiller... either that or crap from your pipes, which has nothing to do with the water purification that your tap water source as in place in any regard... you don't just get your water straight from the water treatment plant... it most likely has to go through thousands of feet (if not a few miles) of distribution pipes before it gets to your tap....
There is no definitive proof that distilled water is bad for you. So we should drink all of the contaminants in the water just to get a trace amount of minerals?
You can get all of the minerals you need from food. There was a study done that showed how much tap water you'd have to drink each day to get your recommended daily allowance of minerals because the amounts of minerals in water were so small.
You'd have to drink the following:
676 eight ounce glasses of tap water to reach the daily RDA for calcium, 1,848 glasses for magnesium, and 848 glasses for iron.
Water potential... Yes there is proof.
Advanced degree in water chemistry. Wow, I mean just wow.
What are you wow'ing about? Show me your indisputable proof that distilled water is harmful.
totally agree...it would only be harmful in prolonged intake of JUST distilled water in the absence of minerals consumed in the diet.
Just drinking it as your water in a normal day is virtually irrelevant as the food you eat has a much higher concentration of minerals and electrolytes than your water source.
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Why? Distilled water is not good for you to drink... as it pulls out needed minerals like magnesium, calcium, and iron from your drinking water... which may be exactly what the "crusty stuff" is on the bottom of your distiller... either that or crap from your pipes, which has nothing to do with the water purification that your tap water source as in place in any regard... you don't just get your water straight from the water treatment plant... it most likely has to go through thousands of feet (if not a few miles) of distribution pipes before it gets to your tap....
There is no definitive proof that distilled water is bad for you. So we should drink all of the contaminants in the water just to get a trace amount of minerals?
You can get all of the minerals you need from food. There was a study done that showed how much tap water you'd have to drink each day to get your recommended daily allowance of minerals because the amounts of minerals in water were so small.
You'd have to drink the following:
676 eight ounce glasses of tap water to reach the daily RDA for calcium, 1,848 glasses for magnesium, and 848 glasses for iron.
Water potential... Yes there is proof.
Advanced degree in water chemistry. Wow, I mean just wow.
What are you wow'ing about? Show me your indisputable proof that distilled water is harmful.
totally agree...it would only be harmful in prolonged intake of JUST distilled water in the absence of minerals consumed in the diet.
Just drinking it as your water in a normal day is virtually irrelevant as the food you eat has a much higher concentration of minerals and electrolytes than your water source.
I'll give that point... the biggest thing I disagree about is that tap water is contaminated and bad for you to drink, when that is largely not the case... Because it's not... tap water in almost all instances are just fine no matter how much "crap" (which is again, most likely just a case of minerals that made it's way to your tap).0 -
Why? Distilled water is not good for you to drink... as it pulls out needed minerals like magnesium, calcium, and iron from your drinking water... which may be exactly what the "crusty stuff" is on the bottom of your distiller... either that or crap from your pipes, which has nothing to do with the water purification that your tap water source as in place in any regard... you don't just get your water straight from the water treatment plant... it most likely has to go through thousands of feet (if not a few miles) of distribution pipes before it gets to your tap....
There is no definitive proof that distilled water is bad for you. So we should drink all of the contaminants in the water just to get a trace amount of minerals?
You can get all of the minerals you need from food. There was a study done that showed how much tap water you'd have to drink each day to get your recommended daily allowance of minerals because the amounts of minerals in water were so small.
You'd have to drink the following:
676 eight ounce glasses of tap water to reach the daily RDA for calcium, 1,848 glasses for magnesium, and 848 glasses for iron.
Water potential... Yes there is proof.
Advanced degree in water chemistry. Wow, I mean just wow.
What are you wow'ing about? Show me your indisputable proof that distilled water is harmful.
totally agree...it would only be harmful in prolonged intake of JUST distilled water in the absence of minerals consumed in the diet.
Just drinking it as your water in a normal day is virtually irrelevant as the food you eat has a much higher concentration of minerals and electrolytes than your water source.
I'll give that point... the biggest thing I disagree about is that tap water is contaminated and bad for you to drink, when that is largely not the case... Because it's not... tap water in almost all instances are just fine no matter how much "crap" (which is again, most likely just a case of minerals that made it's way to your tap).
preaching to the choir. Our municipalities do an overall excellent job supplying people with high quality water.0 -
Why? Distilled water is not good for you to drink... as it pulls out needed minerals like magnesium, calcium, and iron from your drinking water... which may be exactly what the "crusty stuff" is on the bottom of your distiller... either that or crap from your pipes, which has nothing to do with the water purification that your tap water source as in place in any regard... you don't just get your water straight from the water treatment plant... it most likely has to go through thousands of feet (if not a few miles) of distribution pipes before it gets to your tap....
There is no definitive proof that distilled water is bad for you. So we should drink all of the contaminants in the water just to get a trace amount of minerals?
You can get all of the minerals you need from food. There was a study done that showed how much tap water you'd have to drink each day to get your recommended daily allowance of minerals because the amounts of minerals in water were so small.
You'd have to drink the following:
676 eight ounce glasses of tap water to reach the daily RDA for calcium, 1,848 glasses for magnesium, and 848 glasses for iron.
Water potential... Yes there is proof.
Advanced degree in water chemistry. Wow, I mean just wow.
What are you wow'ing about? Show me your indisputable proof that distilled water is harmful.
totally agree...it would only be harmful in prolonged intake of JUST distilled water in the absence of minerals consumed in the diet.
Just drinking it as your water in a normal day is virtually irrelevant as the food you eat has a much higher concentration of minerals and electrolytes than your water source.
I'll give that point... the biggest thing I disagree about is that tap water is contaminated and bad for you to drink, when that is largely not the case... Because it's not... tap water in almost all instances are just fine no matter how much "crap" (which is again, most likely just a case of minerals that made it's way to your tap).
preaching to the choir. Our municipalities do an overall excellent job supplying people with high quality water.
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Why? Distilled water is not good for you to drink... as it pulls out needed minerals like magnesium, calcium, and iron from your drinking water... which may be exactly what the "crusty stuff" is on the bottom of your distiller... either that or crap from your pipes, which has nothing to do with the water purification that your tap water source as in place in any regard... you don't just get your water straight from the water treatment plant... it most likely has to go through thousands of feet (if not a few miles) of distribution pipes before it gets to your tap....
There is no definitive proof that distilled water is bad for you. So we should drink all of the contaminants in the water just to get a trace amount of minerals?
You can get all of the minerals you need from food. There was a study done that showed how much tap water you'd have to drink each day to get your recommended daily allowance of minerals because the amounts of minerals in water were so small.
You'd have to drink the following:
676 eight ounce glasses of tap water to reach the daily RDA for calcium, 1,848 glasses for magnesium, and 848 glasses for iron.
Water potential... Yes there is proof.
Advanced degree in water chemistry. Wow, I mean just wow.
What are you wow'ing about? Show me your indisputable proof that distilled water is harmful.
totally agree...it would only be harmful in prolonged intake of JUST distilled water in the absence of minerals consumed in the diet.
Just drinking it as your water in a normal day is virtually irrelevant as the food you eat has a much higher concentration of minerals and electrolytes than your water source.
I'll give that point... the biggest thing I disagree about is that tap water is contaminated and bad for you to drink, when that is largely not the case... Because it's not... tap water in almost all instances are just fine no matter how much "crap" (which is again, most likely just a case of minerals that made it's way to your tap).
Agreed. Unless you live in certain cities (Houston, I'm looking at you) where there's occasionally an issue with giardia. But that should be a matter of public record.
ETA: I should say there WAS occasionally an issue with giardia. They may have fixed the problem by now.0 -
Why? Distilled water is not good for you to drink... as it pulls out needed minerals like magnesium, calcium, and iron from your drinking water... which may be exactly what the "crusty stuff" is on the bottom of your distiller... either that or crap from your pipes, which has nothing to do with the water purification that your tap water source as in place in any regard... you don't just get your water straight from the water treatment plant... it most likely has to go through thousands of feet (if not a few miles) of distribution pipes before it gets to your tap....
There is no definitive proof that distilled water is bad for you. So we should drink all of the contaminants in the water just to get a trace amount of minerals?
You can get all of the minerals you need from food. There was a study done that showed how much tap water you'd have to drink each day to get your recommended daily allowance of minerals because the amounts of minerals in water were so small.
You'd have to drink the following:
676 eight ounce glasses of tap water to reach the daily RDA for calcium, 1,848 glasses for magnesium, and 848 glasses for iron.
Water potential... Yes there is proof.
Advanced degree in water chemistry. Wow, I mean just wow.
What are you wow'ing about? Show me your indisputable proof that distilled water is harmful.
I just did. While I will agree with what has been state that you have to consume large quantities of water for it to be harmful, it can be and has been.
I will say it again. It's called water potential. If you drink water devoid of any ions the ions that are in your body will try to reach equilibrium with the incoming water. Drawing nutrients out of cells into the water. It's basic chemistry.
Again you would have to drink lots and lots of water to have it happen but eventually, it will.
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