Does the term "cutting" bother you?
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emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »
Mildly. If you were talking to someone, maybe a stranger or loose acquaintance, and you say, "I'm cutting again." What does that person think you're doing again? What someone says that you should start cutting? The meaning is derived solely by context, because the word cut it used so vaguely. Wouldn't a word that specifically means to cut calories be useful? That's all I'm saying.
Except I've found a lot of people don't just randomly talk about cuts and bulks with strangers or random acquaintances, and usually talk in those terms with people that they know who share the same interest in that regard.
Maybe because using those terms with people outside of the MFP community would not understand or misinterpret the meaning? So now imagine the new people on the forums. Unfamiliar with community's assumed meaning they too could misinterpret the meaning. And if the meaning is self harm, you don't see a problem? If say a person is overweight, depressed, and looking for help to lose weight and then they see people using the term cutting, you're telling me you can't possibly see how that could be a problem? Or at the very least uninviting to the community?
Do you actually think the term cutting (in relation to cutting calories/weight) is unique to MFP?
No, but...
But is it a problem to talk about here?
Problem? No. Ridiculous and a conversation without a real point? Yes.
There is a point. It's real. Go back to page one.
I just did and skimmed the replies again. You might want to do the same, because everyone has said either "no" or "maybe a little until I understood what the term meant."
*nods*
And there have been people who have asked what cutting meant. And if that deters someone from using/trying MFP as a tool for their weight loss goals, then honestly, they must have been looking for any out. There are lots of forums that use this term and I don't see people reporting they've lost huge amounts of potential community members due to a misunderstanding of something that can easily be asked about (which it is) or googled.0 -
emily_stew wrote: »I forgot about the magic mike gifs and pictures of booze on page 2
this thread needs more gifs
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emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »
Mildly. If you were talking to someone, maybe a stranger or loose acquaintance, and you say, "I'm cutting again." What does that person think you're doing again? What someone says that you should start cutting? The meaning is derived solely by context, because the word cut it used so vaguely. Wouldn't a word that specifically means to cut calories be useful? That's all I'm saying.
Except I've found a lot of people don't just randomly talk about cuts and bulks with strangers or random acquaintances, and usually talk in those terms with people that they know who share the same interest in that regard.
Maybe because using those terms with people outside of the MFP community would not understand or misinterpret the meaning? So now imagine the new people on the forums. Unfamiliar with community's assumed meaning they too could misinterpret the meaning. And if the meaning is self harm, you don't see a problem? If say a person is overweight, depressed, and looking for help to lose weight and then they see people using the term cutting, you're telling me you can't possibly see how that could be a problem? Or at the very least uninviting to the community?
Do you actually think the term cutting (in relation to cutting calories/weight) is unique to MFP?
No, but...
But is it a problem to talk about here?
Problem? No. Ridiculous and a conversation without a real point? Yes.
There is a point. It's real. Go back to page one.
There isn't. It's not. No.0 -
emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »
Mildly. If you were talking to someone, maybe a stranger or loose acquaintance, and you say, "I'm cutting again." What does that person think you're doing again? What someone says that you should start cutting? The meaning is derived solely by context, because the word cut it used so vaguely. Wouldn't a word that specifically means to cut calories be useful? That's all I'm saying.
Except I've found a lot of people don't just randomly talk about cuts and bulks with strangers or random acquaintances, and usually talk in those terms with people that they know who share the same interest in that regard.
Maybe because using those terms with people outside of the MFP community would not understand or misinterpret the meaning? So now imagine the new people on the forums. Unfamiliar with community's assumed meaning they too could misinterpret the meaning. And if the meaning is self harm, you don't see a problem? If say a person is overweight, depressed, and looking for help to lose weight and then they see people using the term cutting, you're telling me you can't possibly see how that could be a problem? Or at the very least uninviting to the community?
Do you actually think the term cutting (in relation to cutting calories/weight) is unique to MFP?
No, but...
But is it a problem to talk about here?
Problem? No. Ridiculous and a conversation without a real point? Yes.
There is a point. It's real. Go back to page one.
I just did and skimmed the replies again. You might want to do the same, because everyone has said either "no" or "maybe a little until I understood what the term meant."
Skimming is not reading.
Not everyone was in agreement.
Dismissing the maybes dismisses the point because the until part is problematic. There's a window of time for misinterpretation of the term with self harm. The whole reason for this post is identifying that possible and questioning if the term can be improved. If it can be improved, why don't we?
Saying you don't possible see how it's a problem doesn't make it not a problem. That's a logical fallacy.0 -
emily_stew wrote: »
Great. Piss off the UPS employees, now.PikaKnight wrote: »
John Bobbitt will get upset. Shh.
:laugh:
Well, would he? He ended up with a bigger package after that ordeal.
What can brown do for you?
Giggity
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emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »
Mildly. If you were talking to someone, maybe a stranger or loose acquaintance, and you say, "I'm cutting again." What does that person think you're doing again? What someone says that you should start cutting? The meaning is derived solely by context, because the word cut it used so vaguely. Wouldn't a word that specifically means to cut calories be useful? That's all I'm saying.
Except I've found a lot of people don't just randomly talk about cuts and bulks with strangers or random acquaintances, and usually talk in those terms with people that they know who share the same interest in that regard.
Maybe because using those terms with people outside of the MFP community would not understand or misinterpret the meaning? So now imagine the new people on the forums. Unfamiliar with community's assumed meaning they too could misinterpret the meaning. And if the meaning is self harm, you don't see a problem? If say a person is overweight, depressed, and looking for help to lose weight and then they see people using the term cutting, you're telling me you can't possibly see how that could be a problem? Or at the very least uninviting to the community?
Do you actually think the term cutting (in relation to cutting calories/weight) is unique to MFP?
No, but...
But is it a problem to talk about here?
Problem? No. Ridiculous and a conversation without a real point? Yes.
There is a point. It's real. Go back to page one.
I just did and skimmed the replies again. You might want to do the same, because everyone has said either "no" or "maybe a little until I understood what the term meant."
Skimming is not reading.
Not everyone was in agreement.
Dismissing the maybes dismisses the point because the until part is problematic. There's a window of time for misinterpretation of the term with self harm. The whole reason for this post is identifying that possible and questioning if the term can be improved. If it can be improved, why don't we?
Saying you don't possible see how it's a problem doesn't make it not a problem. That's a logical fallacy.
Because we don't care.0 -
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emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »
Mildly. If you were talking to someone, maybe a stranger or loose acquaintance, and you say, "I'm cutting again." What does that person think you're doing again? What someone says that you should start cutting? The meaning is derived solely by context, because the word cut it used so vaguely. Wouldn't a word that specifically means to cut calories be useful? That's all I'm saying.
Except I've found a lot of people don't just randomly talk about cuts and bulks with strangers or random acquaintances, and usually talk in those terms with people that they know who share the same interest in that regard.
Maybe because using those terms with people outside of the MFP community would not understand or misinterpret the meaning? So now imagine the new people on the forums. Unfamiliar with community's assumed meaning they too could misinterpret the meaning. And if the meaning is self harm, you don't see a problem? If say a person is overweight, depressed, and looking for help to lose weight and then they see people using the term cutting, you're telling me you can't possibly see how that could be a problem? Or at the very least uninviting to the community?
Do you actually think the term cutting (in relation to cutting calories/weight) is unique to MFP?
No, but...
But is it a problem to talk about here?
Problem? No. Ridiculous and a conversation without a real point? Yes.
There is a point. It's real. Go back to page one.
I just did and skimmed the replies again. You might want to do the same, because everyone has said either "no" or "maybe a little until I understood what the term meant."
Skimming is not reading.
Not everyone was in agreement.
Dismissing the maybes dismisses the point because the until part is problematic. There's a window of time for misinterpretation of the term with self harm. The whole reason for this post is identifying that possible and questioning if the term can be improved. If it can be improved, why don't we?
Saying you don't possible see how it's a problem doesn't make it not a problem. That's a logical fallacy.
Skimming is not reading? FFS. This whole thing is just taking nitpicking to another level.0 -
emily_stew wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »I forgot about the magic mike gifs and pictures of booze on page 2 this thread needs more gifs
THANK YOU!
I'd contribute but my internet connection is crappy..loading google images would take forever.
Pika can always be relied upon to find the right gif or two.
Except when I beat her to it.0 -
PikaKnight wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »
Mildly. If you were talking to someone, maybe a stranger or loose acquaintance, and you say, "I'm cutting again." What does that person think you're doing again? What someone says that you should start cutting? The meaning is derived solely by context, because the word cut it used so vaguely. Wouldn't a word that specifically means to cut calories be useful? That's all I'm saying.
Except I've found a lot of people don't just randomly talk about cuts and bulks with strangers or random acquaintances, and usually talk in those terms with people that they know who share the same interest in that regard.
Maybe because using those terms with people outside of the MFP community would not understand or misinterpret the meaning? So now imagine the new people on the forums. Unfamiliar with community's assumed meaning they too could misinterpret the meaning. And if the meaning is self harm, you don't see a problem? If say a person is overweight, depressed, and looking for help to lose weight and then they see people using the term cutting, you're telling me you can't possibly see how that could be a problem? Or at the very least uninviting to the community?
Do you actually think the term cutting (in relation to cutting calories/weight) is unique to MFP?
No, but...
But is it a problem to talk about here?
Problem? No. Ridiculous and a conversation without a real point? Yes.
There is a point. It's real. Go back to page one.
I just did and skimmed the replies again. You might want to do the same, because everyone has said either "no" or "maybe a little until I understood what the term meant."
Skimming is not reading.
Not everyone was in agreement.
Dismissing the maybes dismisses the point because the until part is problematic. There's a window of time for misinterpretation of the term with self harm. The whole reason for this post is identifying that possible and questioning if the term can be improved. If it can be improved, why don't we?
Saying you don't possible see how it's a problem doesn't make it not a problem. That's a logical fallacy.
Skimming is not reading? FFS. This whole thing is just taking nitpicking to another level.
Yeah....saying skimming is reading is cutting it a little fine, IMO.
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3dogsrunning wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »I forgot about the magic mike gifs and pictures of booze on page 2 this thread needs more gifs
THANK YOU!
I'd contribute but my internet connection is crappy..loading google images would take forever.
Pika can always be relied upon to find the right gif or two.
Except when I beat her to it.
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Skimming is not reading.
Not everyone was in agreement.
Dismissing the maybes dismisses the point because the until part is problematic. There's a window of time for misinterpretation of the term with self harm. The whole reason for this post is identifying that possible and questioning if the term can be improved. If it can be improved, why don't we?
Saying you don't possible see how it's a problem doesn't make it not a problem. That's a logical fallacy.
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I tried,,,,,I really tried to read this thread all the way through,,,,,but, guess what, I couldn't make the cut.......0
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PikaKnight wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »
Mildly. If you were talking to someone, maybe a stranger or loose acquaintance, and you say, "I'm cutting again." What does that person think you're doing again? What someone says that you should start cutting? The meaning is derived solely by context, because the word cut it used so vaguely. Wouldn't a word that specifically means to cut calories be useful? That's all I'm saying.
Except I've found a lot of people don't just randomly talk about cuts and bulks with strangers or random acquaintances, and usually talk in those terms with people that they know who share the same interest in that regard.
Maybe because using those terms with people outside of the MFP community would not understand or misinterpret the meaning? So now imagine the new people on the forums. Unfamiliar with community's assumed meaning they too could misinterpret the meaning. And if the meaning is self harm, you don't see a problem? If say a person is overweight, depressed, and looking for help to lose weight and then they see people using the term cutting, you're telling me you can't possibly see how that could be a problem? Or at the very least uninviting to the community?
Do you actually think the term cutting (in relation to cutting calories/weight) is unique to MFP?
No, but...
But is it a problem to talk about here?
Problem? No. Ridiculous and a conversation without a real point? Yes.
There is a point. It's real. Go back to page one.
I just did and skimmed the replies again. You might want to do the same, because everyone has said either "no" or "maybe a little until I understood what the term meant."
*nods*
And there have been people who have asked what cutting meant. And if that deters someone from using/trying MFP as a tool for their weight loss goals, then honestly, they must have been looking for any out. There are lots of forums that use this term and I don't see people reporting they've lost huge amounts of potential community members due to a misunderstanding of something that can easily be asked about (which it is) or googled.
Honestly they must have been looking for any out. And you stand by and do nothing. Not even consider the association could be a bad thing.
Just because you don't see something, doesn't mean it's not real.emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »
Mildly. If you were talking to someone, maybe a stranger or loose acquaintance, and you say, "I'm cutting again." What does that person think you're doing again? What someone says that you should start cutting? The meaning is derived solely by context, because the word cut it used so vaguely. Wouldn't a word that specifically means to cut calories be useful? That's all I'm saying.
Except I've found a lot of people don't just randomly talk about cuts and bulks with strangers or random acquaintances, and usually talk in those terms with people that they know who share the same interest in that regard.
Maybe because using those terms with people outside of the MFP community would not understand or misinterpret the meaning? So now imagine the new people on the forums. Unfamiliar with community's assumed meaning they too could misinterpret the meaning. And if the meaning is self harm, you don't see a problem? If say a person is overweight, depressed, and looking for help to lose weight and then they see people using the term cutting, you're telling me you can't possibly see how that could be a problem? Or at the very least uninviting to the community?
Do you actually think the term cutting (in relation to cutting calories/weight) is unique to MFP?
No, but...
But is it a problem to talk about here?
Problem? No. Ridiculous and a conversation without a real point? Yes.
There is a point. It's real. Go back to page one.
I just did and skimmed the replies again. You might want to do the same, because everyone has said either "no" or "maybe a little until I understood what the term meant."
Skimming is not reading.
Not everyone was in agreement.
Dismissing the maybes dismisses the point because the until part is problematic. There's a window of time for misinterpretation of the term with self harm. The whole reason for this post is identifying that possible and questioning if the term can be improved. If it can be improved, why don't we?
Saying you don't possible see how it's a problem doesn't make it not a problem. That's a logical fallacy.
Because we don't care.
Welp. There you go.emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »
Mildly. If you were talking to someone, maybe a stranger or loose acquaintance, and you say, "I'm cutting again." What does that person think you're doing again? What someone says that you should start cutting? The meaning is derived solely by context, because the word cut it used so vaguely. Wouldn't a word that specifically means to cut calories be useful? That's all I'm saying.
Except I've found a lot of people don't just randomly talk about cuts and bulks with strangers or random acquaintances, and usually talk in those terms with people that they know who share the same interest in that regard.
Maybe because using those terms with people outside of the MFP community would not understand or misinterpret the meaning? So now imagine the new people on the forums. Unfamiliar with community's assumed meaning they too could misinterpret the meaning. And if the meaning is self harm, you don't see a problem? If say a person is overweight, depressed, and looking for help to lose weight and then they see people using the term cutting, you're telling me you can't possibly see how that could be a problem? Or at the very least uninviting to the community?
Do you actually think the term cutting (in relation to cutting calories/weight) is unique to MFP?
No, but...
But is it a problem to talk about here?
Problem? No. Ridiculous and a conversation without a real point? Yes.
There is a point. It's real. Go back to page one.
I just did and skimmed the replies again. You might want to do the same, because everyone has said either "no" or "maybe a little until I understood what the term meant."
Skimming is not reading.
Not everyone was in agreement.
Dismissing the maybes dismisses the point because the until part is problematic. There's a window of time for misinterpretation of the term with self harm. The whole reason for this post is identifying that possible and questioning if the term can be improved. If it can be improved, why don't we?
Saying you don't possible see how it's a problem doesn't make it not a problem. That's a logical fallacy.
You sound like a first year English major. Or maybe Sociology. You're just arguing something for the sake of it and attempting to create an issue where there is none.
So do you. Except where I'm looking at an issue, you're avoiding it. Instead of looking at the topic your making assumptions about the one making the argument. A first year English student would know that's an argumentum ad hominem.0 -
emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »
Mildly. If you were talking to someone, maybe a stranger or loose acquaintance, and you say, "I'm cutting again." What does that person think you're doing again? What someone says that you should start cutting? The meaning is derived solely by context, because the word cut it used so vaguely. Wouldn't a word that specifically means to cut calories be useful? That's all I'm saying.
Except I've found a lot of people don't just randomly talk about cuts and bulks with strangers or random acquaintances, and usually talk in those terms with people that they know who share the same interest in that regard.
Maybe because using those terms with people outside of the MFP community would not understand or misinterpret the meaning? So now imagine the new people on the forums. Unfamiliar with community's assumed meaning they too could misinterpret the meaning. And if the meaning is self harm, you don't see a problem? If say a person is overweight, depressed, and looking for help to lose weight and then they see people using the term cutting, you're telling me you can't possibly see how that could be a problem? Or at the very least uninviting to the community?
Do you actually think the term cutting (in relation to cutting calories/weight) is unique to MFP?
No, but...
But is it a problem to talk about here?
Problem? No. Ridiculous and a conversation without a real point? Yes.
There is a point. It's real. Go back to page one.
I just did and skimmed the replies again. You might want to do the same, because everyone has said either "no" or "maybe a little until I understood what the term meant."
Skimming is not reading.
Not everyone was in agreement.
Dismissing the maybes dismisses the point because the until part is problematic. There's a window of time for misinterpretation of the term with self harm. The whole reason for this post is identifying that possible and questioning if the term can be improved. If it can be improved, why don't we?
Saying you don't possible see how it's a problem doesn't make it not a problem. That's a logical fallacy.
Because we don't care.
You care a little. Enough to spend time commenting, at least.0 -
You don't see it much in mainly-women diet communities.PikaKnight wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »
Mildly. If you were talking to someone, maybe a stranger or loose acquaintance, and you say, "I'm cutting again." What does that person think you're doing again? What someone says that you should start cutting? The meaning is derived solely by context, because the word cut it used so vaguely. Wouldn't a word that specifically means to cut calories be useful? That's all I'm saying.
Except I've found a lot of people don't just randomly talk about cuts and bulks with strangers or random acquaintances, and usually talk in those terms with people that they know who share the same interest in that regard.
Maybe because using those terms with people outside of the MFP community would not understand or misinterpret the meaning? So now imagine the new people on the forums. Unfamiliar with community's assumed meaning they too could misinterpret the meaning. And if the meaning is self harm, you don't see a problem? If say a person is overweight, depressed, and looking for help to lose weight and then they see people using the term cutting, you're telling me you can't possibly see how that could be a problem? Or at the very least uninviting to the community?
LOL at thinking cutting is only used on MFP. It's a common term in many fitness minded communities, especially in those that encourage or have knowledge/experience in bodybuilding and strength training.
I don't think it's used ONLY on MFP. I used MFP because that's where we currently are. I guess I could have said the fitness/health/dieting/nutrition/etc community's at large. But MFP is only three letters.
I think it gained usage because men find that 'dieting' sounds vain and feminine. But 'CUTTING'... sounds a little violent, vaguely cool, like maybe you'll wind up looking 'cut' someday.
So, yeah, it's mildly eye roll-worthy, to me.
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Honestly they must have been looking for any out. And you stand by and do nothing. Not even consider the association could be a bad thing.
Just because you don't see something, doesn't mean it's not real.
I'm not here to babysit others or walk on eggshells. If they can't be bothered to ask or look it up, then that's not my problem. And no, I'm not going to sit here and spend time trying to be uber passive just in case someone who can't be bothered to ask or look something up might get scared off.
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I am so cut up about this, it not nice,,,,,,,lets just be pals,,,,,,no need to be cut up about things,0
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emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »
Mildly. If you were talking to someone, maybe a stranger or loose acquaintance, and you say, "I'm cutting again." What does that person think you're doing again? What someone says that you should start cutting? The meaning is derived solely by context, because the word cut it used so vaguely. Wouldn't a word that specifically means to cut calories be useful? That's all I'm saying.
Except I've found a lot of people don't just randomly talk about cuts and bulks with strangers or random acquaintances, and usually talk in those terms with people that they know who share the same interest in that regard.
Maybe because using those terms with people outside of the MFP community would not understand or misinterpret the meaning? So now imagine the new people on the forums. Unfamiliar with community's assumed meaning they too could misinterpret the meaning. And if the meaning is self harm, you don't see a problem? If say a person is overweight, depressed, and looking for help to lose weight and then they see people using the term cutting, you're telling me you can't possibly see how that could be a problem? Or at the very least uninviting to the community?
Do you actually think the term cutting (in relation to cutting calories/weight) is unique to MFP?
No, but...
But is it a problem to talk about here?
Problem? No. Ridiculous and a conversation without a real point? Yes.
There is a point. It's real. Go back to page one.
I just did and skimmed the replies again. You might want to do the same, because everyone has said either "no" or "maybe a little until I understood what the term meant."
Skimming is not reading.
Not everyone was in agreement.
Dismissing the maybes dismisses the point because the until part is problematic. There's a window of time for misinterpretation of the term with self harm. The whole reason for this post is identifying that possible and questioning if the term can be improved. If it can be improved, why don't we?
Saying you don't possible see how it's a problem doesn't make it not a problem. That's a logical fallacy.
Because we don't care.
You care a little. Enough to spend time commenting, at least.
Only that I find it amusing that this bothers you. Because it's really a stupid thing. And I find stupid things amusing.
I don't care that it bothers you though.
Not even a little bit.
And I'm not going to stop calling it cutting. In fact, I may start saying it more often now. So I can counteract whatever nonsense you're trying to start.0 -
emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »
Mildly. If you were talking to someone, maybe a stranger or loose acquaintance, and you say, "I'm cutting again." What does that person think you're doing again? What someone says that you should start cutting? The meaning is derived solely by context, because the word cut it used so vaguely. Wouldn't a word that specifically means to cut calories be useful? That's all I'm saying.
Except I've found a lot of people don't just randomly talk about cuts and bulks with strangers or random acquaintances, and usually talk in those terms with people that they know who share the same interest in that regard.
Maybe because using those terms with people outside of the MFP community would not understand or misinterpret the meaning? So now imagine the new people on the forums. Unfamiliar with community's assumed meaning they too could misinterpret the meaning. And if the meaning is self harm, you don't see a problem? If say a person is overweight, depressed, and looking for help to lose weight and then they see people using the term cutting, you're telling me you can't possibly see how that could be a problem? Or at the very least uninviting to the community?
Do you actually think the term cutting (in relation to cutting calories/weight) is unique to MFP?
No, but...
But is it a problem to talk about here?
Problem? No. Ridiculous and a conversation without a real point? Yes.
There is a point. It's real. Go back to page one.
I just did and skimmed the replies again. You might want to do the same, because everyone has said either "no" or "maybe a little until I understood what the term meant."
Skimming is not reading.
Not everyone was in agreement.
Dismissing the maybes dismisses the point because the until part is problematic. There's a window of time for misinterpretation of the term with self harm. The whole reason for this post is identifying that possible and questioning if the term can be improved. If it can be improved, why don't we?
Saying you don't possible see how it's a problem doesn't make it not a problem. That's a logical fallacy.
Because we don't care.
You care a little. Enough to spend time commenting, at least.
Nope.
Just rubber necking.0 -
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