Why Women Should Not Run (as their only means to lose)
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You didn't get my point... when you see the female doctor, is she not looking at your chart? Are you not talking to her face to face? Is she not giving recommendations to you based on your information, your conversation with her?
That's not the same as some woman you don't even know saying to you "Men shouldn't do X"difference being when I go to a male doctor or a male trainer, I have a personal relationship with them and they know me personally.
^^I guess I read this and understood it as, when you go to a male doctor or male trainer you have a personal relationship with them and they know you personally, not he's got my chart.0 -
oh *kitten*! In mentioning Taso, I totally admitted I will listen to a man tell me what to do!!!!!
I"M SUCH A HYPOCRITE!
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But I have seen a few people on the ellipticals every time I'm there and I haven't seen much visual differences. This is over the course of 6-12 months. I think they should start lifting more and do less cardio for better results.
The problem here is that you don't know what these women are going outside of the gym. Perhaps they are eating their weight in potato chips and candy bars every night and that's why they aren't losing weight.
I agree that strength training is beneficial but there isn't anything wrong with lots of cardio if you have cardio related goals.
I agree, I've seen this with my sister. She'd run a lot but when she got home, she just ate like her normal self, eating everything in site. I have a friend the same way. Exercises but constantly eats and wonders why she never loses. I calculated my sisters food one day and she had eaten 4235 calories on one day where she went running that morning and burned a little more than 200 calories.
You just don't know what those people you keep seeing at the gym on a treadmill day after day and never see a change in body shape are eating.0 -
You didn't get my point... when you see the female doctor, is she not looking at your chart? Are you not talking to her face to face? Is she not giving recommendations to you based on your information, your conversation with her?
That's not the same as some woman you don't even know saying to you "Men shouldn't do X"difference being when I go to a male doctor or a male trainer, I have a personal relationship with them and they know me personally.
^^I guess I read this and understood it as, when you go to a male doctor or male trainer you have a personal relationship with them and they know you personally, not he's got my chart.
well it's more than just your chart, right? Like you can talk to her face to face? Or at least on the phone. You have a chance to tell her about you, and ask her about her, right? There is that whole two way communication thing that is specifically about you as an individual. And there is also the whole if you don't like their advice, you hire a new trainer/doctor.0 -
But I have seen a few people on the ellipticals every time I'm there and I haven't seen much visual differences. This is over the course of 6-12 months. I think they should start lifting more and do less cardio for better results.
The problem here is that you don't know what these women are going outside of the gym. Perhaps they are eating their weight in potato chips and candy bars every night and that's why they aren't losing weight.
I agree that strength training is beneficial but there isn't anything wrong with lots of cardio if you have cardio related goals.
I agree, I've seen this with my sister. She'd run a lot but when she got home, she just ate like her normal self, eating everything in site. I have a friend the same way. Exercises but constantly eats and wonders why she never loses. I calculated my sisters food one day and she had eaten 4235 calories on one day where she went running that morning and burned a little more than 200 calories.
You just don't know what those people you keep seeing at the gym on a treadmill day after day and never see a change in body shape are eating.
well and to be fair, same goes for lifters. You can lift all you want, but if you aren't doing it right (including how to eat right) you won't see the changes you want. It's not like you step into the weight room three times a week and BOOM! Look like that girl in the article with the ripped muscles.0 -
Unless the "better results" they're looking for are running longer and faster :bigsmile:
This is funny, because that is why I started running :laugh: I just started Couch to 5K because, for some reason, I've always wanted to be a runner and run races. Running is just something I enjoy, and I know it's not great for burning calories or weight loss. That's why I do other stuff at the gym. I run just because I want to improve my running and I enjoy it as a 'release' I suppose.0 -
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oh *kitten*! In mentioning Taso, I totally admitted I will listen to a man tell me what to do!!!!!
I"M SUCH A HYPOCRITE!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :flowerforyou:
my problem isn't with men. It's just the weird random man saying what women in general ought to do. that's all.
I actually really really love men. I'm totally boy crazy and spend about 90% of my time thinking about boys. Usually specific ones. The philosophy major. The mechanic. The auto parts sales dude. Bob Marley, The drummer of my favorite band.
There's just so much yummies out there.0 -
While I truly want to enjoy this article, there really should have been a counterargument saying why running (or any cardio) works for some people and not for others. I'll admit I didn't have much to lose in the beginning, but cardio is the only way I've lost weight. The author should have included alternative ways to burn fat (That is, if I didn't miss that part of the article; in that case someone help a girl out!).0
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Why is everyone so wrapped up in other peoples gym routine? Maybe they arent there for the same reasons you are. Maybe they just want to get out of the house and be active for an hour a day. Who cares? Focus on your goals unless they ask for your help and opinions!0
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While I truly want to enjoy this article, there really should have been a counterargument saying why running (or any cardio) works for some people and not for others. I'll admit I didn't have much to lose in the beginning, but cardio is the only way I've lost weight. The author should have included alternative ways to burn fat (That is, if I didn't miss that part of the article; in that case someone help a girl out!).
Running was just used as the example. The point to the article is that you burn fat more effectively through moderate cardio combined with moderate strength training. The emphasis was placed on women because they have a tendency to practice excessive cardio without strength training.0 -
You didn't get my point... when you see the female doctor, is she not looking at your chart? Are you not talking to her face to face? Is she not giving recommendations to you based on your information, your conversation with her?
That's not the same as some woman you don't even know saying to you "Men shouldn't do X"difference being when I go to a male doctor or a male trainer, I have a personal relationship with them and they know me personally.
^^I guess I read this and understood it as, when you go to a male doctor or male trainer you have a personal relationship with them and they know you personally, not he's got my chart.
well it's more than just your chart, right? Like you can talk to her face to face? Or at least on the phone. You have a chance to tell her about you, and ask her about her, right? There is that whole two way communication thing that is specifically about you as an individual. And there is also the whole if you don't like their advice, you hire a new trainer/doctor.
Which is it? They know you personally, or they can look at your chat and ask you questions?
You said that whenever you go to a male Dr or Trainer you have a personal relationship and they know you personally. Not they can look at your chart..... I didn't make up your quote.0 -
And I'm actually getting kind of tired of these self-proclaimed "experts" herein dictating how they think other people should diet and/or train. Everybody is different and every BODY is different. And, let's face it, what works for a man won't work for a woman. And, no offense, I quite frankly know of no woman personally who thinks chiseled gym rats who are so "buff" they can't even hold their own arms naturally are attractive. LOL.
"And, let's face it, what works for a man won't work for a woman."
Pray tell, why not?0 -
also, tired of men telling me what i should be doing.
SERIOUSLY. No uterus, no opinion.
Did you really search for this thread just so you could declare moral superiority? One need not have a uterus to have knowledge of the female body. That I'm quite sure of.
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I seriously cannot believe some of the women in here...
OMG YOU ARE A MAN SO STFU BECAUSE YOU CANNOT HELP ME OR PROVIDE ME WITH ANY ADVICE OR KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE YOU ARE A MAN!!!!! >:(
Ridiculous...0 -
I run everyday folks and have been for about four years now. Yes, I'm addicted but b/c of it I can say I've lost over 100 pounds 0
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Unless running completely changes their outlook on life!
Running makes me want to workout all the time (and not just running - I hike, spin, & do light weight training), eat better, and even be a better person...Running is AWESOME!!!0 -
Unless running completely changes their outlook on life!
Running makes me want to workout all the time (and not just running - I hike, spin, & do light weight training), eat better, and even be a better person...Running is AWESOME!!!
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I knew this would not end well. :frown:0
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You didn't get my point... when you see the female doctor, is she not looking at your chart? Are you not talking to her face to face? Is she not giving recommendations to you based on your information, your conversation with her?
That's not the same as some woman you don't even know saying to you "Men shouldn't do X"difference being when I go to a male doctor or a male trainer, I have a personal relationship with them and they know me personally.
^^I guess I read this and understood it as, when you go to a male doctor or male trainer you have a personal relationship with them and they know you personally, not he's got my chart.
well it's more than just your chart, right? Like you can talk to her face to face? Or at least on the phone. You have a chance to tell her about you, and ask her about her, right? There is that whole two way communication thing that is specifically about you as an individual. And there is also the whole if you don't like their advice, you hire a new trainer/doctor.
Which is it? They know you personally, or they can look at your chat and ask you questions?
You said that whenever you go to a male Dr or Trainer you have a personal relationship and they know you personally. Not they can look at your chart..... I didn't make up your quote.
I hate to do this. But I have to:
per·son·al·ly
/ˈpərsənəlē/
Adverb
1.With the personal presence or action of the individual specified; in person.
2.Used to indicate that a specified person and no other is involved in something.
Synonyms
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Unless running completely changes their outlook on life!
Running makes me want to workout all the time (and not just running - I hike, spin, & do light weight training), eat better, and even be a better person...Running is AWESOME!!!
Haha you inadvertently supported the OPs post. Running as the ONLY means to lose.0 -
You didn't get my point... when you see the female doctor, is she not looking at your chart? Are you not talking to her face to face? Is she not giving recommendations to you based on your information, your conversation with her?
That's not the same as some woman you don't even know saying to you "Men shouldn't do X"difference being when I go to a male doctor or a male trainer, I have a personal relationship with them and they know me personally.
^^I guess I read this and understood it as, when you go to a male doctor or male trainer you have a personal relationship with them and they know you personally, not he's got my chart.
well it's more than just your chart, right? Like you can talk to her face to face? Or at least on the phone. You have a chance to tell her about you, and ask her about her, right? There is that whole two way communication thing that is specifically about you as an individual. And there is also the whole if you don't like their advice, you hire a new trainer/doctor.
Which is it? They know you personally, or they can look at your chat and ask you questions?
You said that whenever you go to a male Dr or Trainer you have a personal relationship and they know you personally. Not they can look at your chart..... I didn't make up your quote.
I hate to do this. But I have to:
per·son·al·ly
/ˈpərsənəlē/
Adverb
1.With the personal presence or action of the individual specified; in person.
2.Used to indicate that a specified person and no other is involved in something.
Synonyms
in person
Know
. to be acquainted or familiar with: she's known him five years
Yay, semantics fight...0 -
Know
. to be acquainted or familiar with: she's known him five years
Yay, semantics fight...
exactly! And OP here is not acquainted or familiar with me at all!
ETA: quit editing your posts! Its unfair to make my target a moving target!
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You didn't get my point... when you see the female doctor, is she not looking at your chart? Are you not talking to her face to face? Is she not giving recommendations to you based on your information, your conversation with her?
That's not the same as some woman you don't even know saying to you "Men shouldn't do X"difference being when I go to a male doctor or a male trainer, I have a personal relationship with them and they know me personally.
^^I guess I read this and understood it as, when you go to a male doctor or male trainer you have a personal relationship with them and they know you personally, not he's got my chart.
well it's more than just your chart, right? Like you can talk to her face to face? Or at least on the phone. You have a chance to tell her about you, and ask her about her, right? There is that whole two way communication thing that is specifically about you as an individual. And there is also the whole if you don't like their advice, you hire a new trainer/doctor.
Which is it? They know you personally, or they can look at your chat and ask you questions?
You said that whenever you go to a male Dr or Trainer you have a personal relationship and they know you personally. Not they can look at your chart..... I didn't make up your quote.
I hate to do this. But I have to:
per·son·al·ly
/ˈpərsənəlē/
Adverb
1.With the personal presence or action of the individual specified; in person.
2.Used to indicate that a specified person and no other is involved in something.
Synonyms
in person
Know
. to be acquainted or familiar with: she's known him five years
Yay, semantics fight...
exactly! And OP here is not acquainted or familiar with me at all!
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I have a uterus, so I'm going to state my opinion. The women I see at the gym do nothing but cardio. I'm the only female utilizing the weight section, and I always get weird looks for being there. If you're a woman, you're going to get better results with strength-training than the same old tired cardio day after day. I've seen this with mine own two eyes. My friend switched from the elliptical to cardio after being nudged into it by her husband. The difference was astounding. She looked great! The five pounds she lost looked like 20.
However, we do have different body types, and strength training has done nothing for me. I've gained weight, quite a lot of it. It's made me *stronger*, but I'd like to look nice as well. I have a body type that builds muscle and fat easily, though, and while most women don't bulk, I'm one of the few who do. In light of that, I don't plan to give up the strength-training entirely, but interval cardio will be my main focus.0 -
Did not read all the replies, but only got in a few pages and kept seeing "but I lost weight doing only cardio!".
Weight loss =/= Fat loss
I would rather have fat loss.0 -
And yes, I am a fat marathon runner. I am backing off on running, and hitting the free weights.0
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70% clean eating 20% weight training 10% cardio It works for me 0
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So many people keep missing this part:(as their only means to lose)
If you're ONLY running, that's like eating ONLY chicken. There's nothing at all wrong with chicken, and you can eat chicken every day if you want, but you're not going to get everything your body needs from JUST eating chicken.
I've never seen a running training plan that didn't recommend at least some cross training and strength training.0 -
also, tired of men telling me what i should be doing.
SERIOUSLY. No uterus, no opinion.
Did you really search for this thread just so you could declare moral superiority? One need not have a uterus to have knowledge of the female body. That I'm quite sure of.
^This.
In for careful study of the female body0
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