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    • Posts: 517 Member
      This is why I am going back to the gym. I considered sticking to running for my workouts after my membership expired. But not only does it get boring, I just don't "trust" it. I liked the progress I made when I was lifting about 3x/week. But I have lost weight in the past during strictly cardio. Personally, I'd rather spend less time exercising and still get great results. And then there are the benefits of burning more calories from muscle building...it's a no brainer.
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      also, tired of men telling me what i should be doing.

      Awww...there, there. :flowerforyou:

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      The problem here is that you don't know what these women are going outside of the gym. Perhaps they are eating their weight in potato chips and candy bars every night and that's why they aren't losing weight.

      I agree that strength training is beneficial but there isn't anything wrong with lots of cardio if you have cardio related goals.

      Yup! I was one of those people. On the elliptical every day then eating pizza, ice cream, chips, etc. at home. Now I eat right and do cardio five times a week. I've lost almost 50 pounds and have not touched a weight. I wanted to get a good routine established before I started branching out.
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      Humans were not meant to run kind distances every day,it's too tough on the joints for both men and women
      Human beings were also not meant to sit in little cubicles staring at computer screens all day, filling out useless forms and listening to eight different bosses drone on about about mission statements.
    • Posts: 23,120 Member
      QFT?

      Vas ist das?

      Great article-- women are generally too sensitive. And why would any woman care WHO shares wisdom? Feminist dopes, I swear.
    • Posts: 6,490 Member
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      Very true, we are delicate flowers, fine bone china, century's old books....... yadda yadda yadda..




      But strong enough to kick men in the nuts and not break :flowerforyou:

      Here's to hoping you speak sarcasm . . .
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      Fair point. I was simply alluding to the fact that there is a point of diminishing returns with increased mileage, and then negative returns. This differs for each person, and even differs over time for any one person, but is there nonetheless. I think many people fall into this "if some is good, then more is better" mentality of running (and fitness in general).

      But as was pointed out earlier, it was too far from the OP for OPer's liking so I have stopped all discussions on this errant bunny/red herring/wild goose chase.

      Agreed. Though the thread I started to discuss the mere possibility of negative returns didn't go over so well . . .
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      Human beings were also not meant to sit in little cubicles staring at computer screens all day, filling out useless forms and listening to eight different bosses drone on about about mission statements.


      I'm motivated to work just hard enough not to get fired.
    • Posts: 1,219 Member
      Total tripe; I guess I'm fat and getting fatter? B/c I run 15-30 miles a week..but not on a dreadmill...outside where I get some air.

      And I despise team sports; that is not an alternative for me. I don't belong to a gym, have a team of friends to go play soccer, volley ball, etc nor do I care to. I enjoy running, swimming, hiking, biking and I am UN-convinced any of those things will make me "fat"...sorry not buying that load of BS.

      Oh, but I don't just "cardio" all the time; I weight train (circuit with plyometrics..but I suppose he'll say I'm going to get fat and slow my metabolism from that too?) and I don't shovel 4000 calories worth of food into my gullet during a day let alone a meal.

      Maybe I'm missing the point to the article?
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      I think I love bunnies now.
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      Here's to hoping you speak sarcasm . . .

      Its my native tongue :wink:
    • Posts: 39 Member
      It's a tough decision between cardio and weights... Love them both! I'm a woman and I lift and I do not look like a man!! Contrary to what people want you to think, lifting does not make you bulky!! Unless of course you take supplements to cause that look :)
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      Agreed. Though the thread I started to discuss the mere possibility of negative returns didn't go over so well . . .

      That's because addicts are reluctant to admit (or even be aware of) the true harm of their addictions.

      (Try posting a thread on giving up bread for a month and really watch the fur fly.)
    • Posts: 3,198 Member
      The bunny gifs keep getting better and better!
    • Posts: 3,165 Member
      Total tripe; I guess I'm fat and getting fatter? B/c I run 15-30 miles a week..but not on a dreadmill...outside where I get some air.

      And I despise team sports; that is not an alternative for me. I don't belong to a gym, have a team of friends to go play soccer, volley ball, etc nor do I care to. I enjoy running, swimming, hiking, biking and I am UN-convinced any of those things will make me "fat"...sorry not buying that load of BS.

      Oh, but I don't just "cardio" all the time; I weight train (circuit with plyometrics..but I suppose he'll say I'm going to get fat and slow my metabolism from that too?) and I don't shovel 4000 calories worth of food into my gullet during a day let alone a meal.

      Okay so you vary your exercise like the article mentions.
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      I completely disagree!!! I lost 90lbs doing nothing but cardio and watching what I ate. I can thank losing my *kitten* to my treadmill and walking and running every day for the last 18 months!

      Lifting weights is great....for toning and strenghthening muscles. I started lifting weights when I got to the 90lb mark and I would suggest everyone lifts weights.
    • Posts: 2,538 Member
      Humans were not meant to run kind distances every day,it's too tough on the joints for both men and women
      The body will adapt to most any exercise level, including running long distances every day, as long as you go about training it intelligently. As for being tough on the joints - it is not, unless one runs with extremely poor form or overstresses the body with more training than it is ready for.
    • Posts: 15,228 Member
      I completely disagree!!! I lost 90lbs doing nothing but cardio and watching what I ate. I can thank losing my *kitten* to my treadmill and walking and running every day for the last 18 months!

      Lifting weights is great....for toning and strenghthening muscles. I started lifting weights when I got to the 90lb mark and I would suggest everyone lifts weights.

      The article suggests combining cardio and weights.
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      In for more bunny gifs
    • Posts: 5,789 Member
      Total tripe; I guess I'm fat and getting fatter? B/c I run 15-30 miles a week..but not on a dreadmill...outside where I get some air.

      And I despise team sports; that is not an alternative for me. I don't belong to a gym, have a team of friends to go play soccer, volley ball, etc nor do I care to. I enjoy running, swimming, hiking, biking and I am UN-convinced any of those things will make me "fat"...sorry not buying that load of BS.

      Oh, but I don't just "cardio" all the time; I weight train (circuit with plyometrics..but I suppose he'll say I'm going to get fat and slow my metabolism from that too?) and I don't shovel 4000 calories worth of food into my gullet during a day let alone a meal.

      Maybe I'm missing the point to the article?

      Ya, I think you missed the point.
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      Ya, I think you missed the point.

      A lot of people did. *sigh*
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      The article suggests combining cardio and weights.

      I know what the article says but I am stating the point that I lost 90lbs doing all cardio! It worked for me so I don't want others to feel that they can't lost weight if they don't mix it all up with cardio and weights. You can.
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      A lot of people did. *sigh*

      So is the life of a "cardio vs weights" thread, that wasn't really a cardio vs weights thread, and the addicts that live within.
    • Posts: 13,247 Member
      I can understand why some people get annoyed at what they perceive as anti-cardio posts on here.

      But what I find much more annoying is knowing just what kind of amazing results I get from weight lifting, and that it's virtually unheard of in any kind of maintstream media. I subscribe to a handful of women's magazines, some purely fashion (Glamour, Cosmo), some more fitness based (Shape, Self), and I have yet to see any articles touting the benefits of lifting "like a man."

      I was thrilled when I saw one of the magazines - I think it was Shape - talk about the benefits of strength training on their FB page, until I clicked the link and saw that they were showing someone doing 10 pound deadlifts. 10 measly little pounds. That just a little more than the weight of a fridgemate of Diet Pepsi. About the weight of an average housecat. I never got a tight booty from picking up my cats. I never shaped my arms doing "curls" with a 32 oz Gatorade. :noway:

      Plus, in the very rare instances you see women who lift heavy, they're often hypersexualized fitness models who LOOK more muscular than the average woman might want to look.

      So, yeah. I can kind of understand who some women fight back against the advice of lifting. They might feel like they're being bullied into looking a certain way, and that there's something wrong with you if you're goal isn't a visible six pack and vascular arms.

      I just hope those women keep an open mind. Because I was once like them. I didn't want to look like Jamie Eason. She's flipping gorgeous, just not my goal. But I still listened to what other people had to say (including - GASP! - men!), got out of my comfort zone and under a barbell, and now I look and feel better than ever before. :flowerforyou:

      I still run. In fact, lifting has improved my running.
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      Unless the "better results" they're looking for are running longer and faster :bigsmile:

      True!!

      Or perhaps their intention is to maintain their weight. But lifting or eliptical or something else, if you overeat you aren't going to lose. They need to check their diet if they trying to lose and failing.
    • Posts: 6,490 Member
      I completely disagree!!! I lost 90lbs doing nothing but cardio and watching what I ate. I can thank losing my *kitten* to my treadmill and walking and running every day for the last 18 months!

      Lifting weights is great....for toning and strenghthening muscles. I started lifting weights when I got to the 90lb mark and I would suggest everyone lifts weights.

      You can lose plenty of weight with just dieting, or just dieting and cardio. The article lacks some subtlety. The bigger point though has to do with body recomposition and people are much better off strength training while they lose weight rather than waiting. It's easier to retain muscle then to rebuild it.
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      True!!

      Or perhaps their intention is to maintain their weight. But lifting or eliptical or something else, if you overeat you aren't going to lose. They need to check their diet if they trying to lose and failing.

      IMHO, if they are doing that much cardio just to maintain, they are doing it wrong.
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      I know what the article says but I am stating the point that I lost 90lbs doing all cardio! It worked for me so I don't want others to feel that they can't lost weight if they don't mix it all up with cardio and weights. You can.

      You can, but it wasn't "all cardio". You even stated that it was diet as well.

      Also, you said that lifting is "great for toning". Toning is just fat loss/lowering of BF%.
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      Oh, but I don't just "cardio" all the time; I weight train (circuit with plyometrics..but I suppose he'll say I'm going to get fat and slow my metabolism from that too?)

      Maybe I'm missing the point to the article?

      YES. You are missing the point.
    • Posts: 244 Member
      also, tired of men telling me what i should be doing.

      ^^^^ this

      I love running, the calorie burn is fantastic and I love how it has changed my body....I just do weights once a week; I'd rather be outside in the countryside, breathing fresh air than in the gym breathing in sweaty body odours
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