A Frustrated Girl who Runs and Lifts

nz_deevaa · June 2013

Sara is actually very knowledgable when it comes to body composition and lifting heavy in particular.

She was trying to help you, so I'm not sure why you are currently bashing her.

IronAngel26pt2 · June 2013

It's on your page. Were you not aware?

Sarauk2sf · June 2013

And that is relevant how?

That is what I meant with the huh? as it obviously went over your head.

IronAngel26pt2 · June 2013

Lol.....no Hun... That is me in my profile pic. I'll keep it. Thank you tho.

Pookylou · June 2013

Awww I knew you call me fat :flowerforyou: So all skinny, boyish figured women are forever alone? Aces thanks for the heads up *head desk*

nz_deevaa · June 2013

So you are happy with your body composition? So what was your question?

You run. It makes you happy. You lift. It makes you happy. You are happy with your body composition. So what's the issue?

IronAngel26pt2 · June 2013

I was hoping you made a mistake by copying and pasting the wrong thing in there.
I'm sure you have helped out a lot of people. Keep it up. You've got it all figured out.

IronAngel26pt2 · June 2013

SutapaMukherji · June 2013

Wow.. this sounds like my story, though I dont (read cannot) work half as hard as you do.

It has been a month now, I do 60 mins of cardio everyday - 30 mins of treadmill (speed 4.5-5 with incline 4-6) and 30 of stationary cycle and burn about 300-350 cals.
I weight lift very basic as I am new to this. Bicep curls (2 sets of 15 reps with 3kg weight in each hand), chest flys (2 sets of 15 reps with 3kg weight in each hand), leg press (4 sets of 25 reps), push ups (2 sets of 10 reps), crunches etc are the whole list.

I always eat around 1200 cals, and in a month, I have only once eaten extremely over which was 2200 cals.

And STILL, I do not lose weight. Neither do I see any major NSVs in the form of inches or measurements!! :grumble: :explode:

For those who might say that I might be gaining muscle, I have a question. Is is possible to gain muscle within 15 days of lifting because this scenario has remained unchanged since then. :noway:

People asked me to eat 20% below my TDEE and that is coming to 1400 cals. I tried that too, but it doesnt seem to be helping and I am scared that I might put on weight. :frown:

Sorry if I sound ignorant, but I am looking for some answers. :flowerforyou:

My0WNinspiration · June 2013

OP, whats your lifting routine? I'm in love with your shoulders.

FunkyTobias · June 2013

If all men are genetically programmed to be attracted to the same body type, how do you explain Rule 34?

likeschocolate · June 2013

There are scientific reasons that champion distance runners are not seen as champions in the strength or even sprint categories.

The key to avoiding frustration is to keep goals logical, reasonable and attainable.

Note: experiences of individuals will vary and may not generalize to your own situation. You look like you are older and have a different genetic potential than the average person on the site (for example).

Cait_Sidhe · June 2013

Well this thread certainly took a turn since the last time I looked at it a few hours ago.

FYI to the OP, you may want to listen to Sarauk2sf. The reason she has so many posts is because she is very knowledgable, especially about body recomposition and lifting and spends a lot of time and effort helping others. You'd be wise to listen to her. And I agree about the body shaming. Not okay. Stop it.

LJSmith1989 · June 2013

Well said

ILiftHeavyAcrylics · June 2013

All of this.

Came in to be helpful, saw body shaming comments supported by the OP and personal attacks against Sara, leaving now.

jessicasloan91 · June 2013

BUMPPPPPP!

ndj1979 · June 2013

for a while I went on long runs, did ploy, and hit weights and I definitely got smaller and lost muscle mass....so I backed off the long runs and started lifting heavy with compound lifts and back running off to like one to two HIIT sessions a week...I maintained my weight but definitely have lost body fat...now I am still lifting and have added one more cardio session in ..so lift four times and three cardio sessions a week in hope of leaning out a little more and getting to 10% body fat....

I think you will see results if you back cardio to like two sessions per week and lift have with compound lifts...

barrpc · June 2013

I think age determines what you can get away with. I have played with the formula for my body for 3 years. For me (everyone is different) I do 3 runs a week and 2 weightlifting sessions a week and that has been very good at controlling my weight while training for the marathon. This year I was able to take 23 minutes off my previous PR. But again, each person is different and I think you have to go slow to avoid injury and figure out what works for your body.

_chiaroscuro · June 2013

What's REALLY important is that THIS was the first reply to the OP. How? How did he know? What sort of precognition is this that he knew this thread would become the festering turd it has? I call wizardry.

tourmalily · June 2013

Uh and who the hell are you to decide what exactly is a "feminine" body shape, or what is an attractive body shape?

Seriously, shut up and stop body shaming, it's gross.

BeachIron · June 2013

Any thread on running and lifting is pretty much destined for the trash heap. The OP hasn't helped this at all. Neither have the ones posting saying you can't run or that it's automatically going to turn you into a stick. The runners that are sticks don't lift and/or don't eat enough to support their activity. I'm convinced that the reason you don't see more ripped up runners is because the social scene on running and lifting is pretty much zero and you have to fight anyone you work out with and/or speak to about fitness to get them to STFU about how your program is wrong. I have no idea where the "ultimate" balance lies as I've been trying to find it myself. My guess is that it's a bit south of marathons but we shall see.

OP, you are doing an amazing job with your fitness, but the body shaming and attacks in this thread aren't warranted. I'm honestly not even sure whether the purpose of this thread was to troll, brag, or actually attack the concept of running and lifting together.

CrankMeUp · June 2013

fjrandol · June 2013

/annoyed. I wanted to contribute to the topic, but never mind. The amount of body shaming and attacks is too much.

FoxyMcDeadlift · June 2013

I've run a marathon whilst strength training, dont expect to make solid strength gains in the business end of the marathon schedule. The trick is to divide your year into two seasons, the strength season where you increase your lifts, and the running season, where you improve your PBs, also EAT YOUR FOOD!

I've just started knuckling down on the running side again, i've put on 8kg and added about 30kg to my lower body lifts at the expense of times on my miles, which im now shaving off again. Feel free to PM if you want more details, as with anythings, its just about managing your training/nutrition and listening to your body.

*Edit* Can the two people having a flame war about their definitions of "lean" please learn to quote!

CrankMeUp · June 2013

exactly.

no need to even respond. The OP and the body shaming guy have already done a good job making themselves look...

hmm

dont want a strike.

good luck on your goals OP:flowerforyou:

traumaticthrash · June 2013

you already seem to lead a healthy lifestyle. do what you love, thats the main thing

EvgeniZyntx · June 2013

Ummm, your science is lacking. Attraction is a spectrum that pretty much included a variety of things and snt as cookie cutter as you would like it to be, it is also influenced by the environment and education. I find these women attractive because my mental make up is such that achievement and dedication are extreme positive factors.

Second of all, your understanding of long distance running is also lacking. The extreme runner attempts to achieve the most efficient weight to endurance and speed ratio. Low weight = winner. These body compositions are willed and developed by fine tuned diet and programs specifically for a minimum of necessary muscle to achieve results. It isn't that running achieves these results it's that by achieving these results one can be an elite runner.
There are, for each of these elite runners, as many more higher weight, more muscle carrying long distance runners or triathletes but that just don't make it to the podium because,.... Well, physics.

OP, I had specific advice with regards to doing both effectively but all I'll bother now with is to suggest to evaluate total calorie needs based on detailed running time evaluations. There are some nice methods out there. Good luck, try not to support the body shaming next time. I'm gone to burn bras.

Iron_Duchess · June 2013

WOW! What a disgrace that we still have to deal with body shaming in 2013… Excellent way to introduce yourself to us OP!!! :ohwell:

myofibril · June 2013

1) the "marathon runner v sprinters" argument is patently stupid and intellectually dishonest:

see: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/sprinters-vs-marathoners.html

2) fat loss is different to weight loss - being 10lbs higher on race day on the scale doesn't mean you have gained 10lbs of fat - particularly if you are carb loading to top up glycogen stores. In addition subcutaneous water may make you appear fatter when in fact you are not.

3) logging significant mileage is very hard to balance with a muscle preservation goal even with good peri, intra and post workout nutrition. It can be done but the hormonal environment turns catabolic around 80 minutes which is essentially the opposite of what you want to achieve. Can be done but it is an inefficient set up and will lead to diluted results.

4) Science yo!

5) Different men find different things attractive. We do not possess a homogenous hive mind not matter what some punter tells you on t'interwebs.

6) Learn who to listen to - you will get much further that way.

AlsDonkBoxSquat · June 2013

Well if this ain't a trash heap.

Everyone has a right to their opinion however
1) Opinions aren't facts
2) while body preference is normal and the spice of life, body shaming is never okay
3) a person's opinion is not a good foundation on which to stand when attacking another person

I'm still trying to understand how the consumption of ice cream and lattes (and I'm assuming therefore sausages) automatically negates the validity of a person's experience and knowledge base.

If what you're doing isn't working the way you want do something different, if you don't want to do something different then don't.

A Frustrated Girl who Runs and Lifts

Replies

Categories