Eat a big breakfast.. .

Carol_ · May 2015

Oh..how sweet! lol... Thank you!

LBuehrle8 · May 2015

Kruggeri wrote: »

Is there some alternate definition of "attacking", "mockery", and "rudeness" that is able to be referenced somewhere? Like how there's an urban dictionary with slang terms, is there an Internet forum dictionary where words have different meanings and tone can be inferred where it doesn't exist?

Whenever we have one of these posts where either the OP or the white knighters complain about how they were attacked and mocked with the rude responses from the posters I always go back and reread the entire thread thinking I must have just missed a couple of posts. I'm just not seeing it. As others have said, the rudest responses in here were from the OP...

+1

ndj1979 · May 2015

atypicalsmith wrote: »

ndj1979 wrote: »

ncboiler89 wrote: »

This thread is a candidate for being closed. No useful discussion being made anymore.

correction, this thread should of never been created.

Or perhaps you should have (not of) never read it since you weren't interested in the subject matter.

and you are here, why?

ndj1979 · May 2015

asflatasapancake wrote: »

What the heck happened to this friggin thread? I leave and everything falls apart. I guess I should never leave. Sorry, rabbit. I was just responding to my fans. Here ya go:

@2015 copyright @rabbitjb

the white knights rode in, in force….

ndj1979 · May 2015

Dnarules wrote: »

draznyth wrote: »

so new people show up with "advice" that could end up throwing other newbs off track. just let them spew their advice anyway? no thx

if they can take their lumps and stick around then they might learn something and end up with actual good advice to give others in the future.

This is what burns me. There is nothing in this thread that could throw a newbie off. You guys have an awful high opinion of yourselves. I've learned a lot in these threads, but some of the arrogance floors me. You can come in and say meal timing doesn't matter, which I completely agree with. But you don't need the rest. If it makes you feel scientific and smart, go for it, because it doesn't affect me. But I hate to see the affect it has on others.

And I realize that some of you are tired of dealing with the same questions and topics all the time. But if you've gotten to the point where you have to belittle, maybe you should take a friggin break.

really? An article saying that you should eat a big breakfast because it leads to weight loss is not going to throw people off? The article even references a "study" however, it does to link one to it…

how do you think we get all the "can I do this cleanse?" or "is sugar bad?" or all the other bro science threads around here….? Someone reads an article on the internet, posts it on here, and others think it is actual science…

Sued0nim · May 2015

this thread has Arethra in it

it's all about the win

suke28 · May 2015

booksandchocolate12 wrote: »

Breakfast is my biggest meal of the day, but only because it's my favorite meal of the day.

This

NobodyPutsAmyInTheCorner · May 2015

I'm totally blaming this thread. I've been and bought square sausage, pancetta and a big carton of eggs now ready for the weekend. If I get fat. I'm blaming this thread. Not the OP though. She seems quite nice when she's not getting upset at everyone.

Stick around... We grow on you I promise

Chrysalid2014 · May 2015

Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.

Sued0nim · May 2015

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.

That's bollocks

Protein timing is unimportant

ncboiler89 · May 2015

katem999 wrote: »

ok everyone, let's break it up, the Tone Police are here, party's over.

lol

ndj1979 · May 2015

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.

total pseudo science...

do you have a study on this?

ndj1979 · May 2015

asflatasapancake wrote: »

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.

I generally don't eat that much for breakfast and consume much more than 60g of protein per day. How much LBM will I lose?

you already lost all of it...

3bambi3 · May 2015

ndj1979 wrote: »

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.

total pseudo science...

do you have a study on this?

Chrysalid2014 · May 2015

ndj1979 wrote: »

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.

total pseudo science...

do you have a study on this?

Here's the article I read. The two studies it's based on are referenced at the beginning.
http://www.precisionnutrition.com/protein-limit

Note that I'm concerned with preserving LBM, I'm not as concerned with the "other protein benefits" the writer goes into.

I wish it wasn't true because I don't like eating breakfast.

[Edit: p.s... links to the actual studies:]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19699838
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19056590

3bambi3 · May 2015

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

ndj1979 wrote: »

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.

total pseudo science...

do you have a study on this?

Here's the article I read. The two studies it's based on are referenced at the beginning.
http://www.precisionnutrition.com/protein-limit

Note that I'm concerned with preserving LBM, I'm not as concerned with the "other protein benefits" the writer goes into.

I wish it wasn't true because I don't like eating breakfast.

[Edit: p.s... links to the actual studies:]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19699838
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19056590

I think what the first one is saying:

In summary, a large 340 g serving of lean beef, increases mixed muscle protein synthesis by approximately 50% in both the young and the elderly. However, a moderate size portion (113 g) represents an equally effective and more energetically efficient means of stimulating muscle protein synthesis than the 3-fold larger serving. We suggest that instead of a single, large protein-rich meal, ingestion of multiple moderate-sized servings of high quality protein-rich foods over the course of a day may represent an effective means of optimizing the potential for muscle growth while permitting greater control over total energy and nutrient intake.

Is that having your protein throughout the day rather than just in one meal is better for protein synthesis. But I don't know many people who just eat protein at one meal (especially over 113-340g of it!), so I don't think it would apply to the masses.

The second study is focusing on protein ingestion directly after exercise and concludes that amino acid availability may play a greater role than protein intake.

So it seems like, from these studies, eating moderate amounts of protein throughout the day is the way to go. You're still fine not eating breakfast.

FitForL1fe · May 2015

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.

muh gainz

dey leavin me

TR0berts · May 2015

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.

Try telling that to Martin Berkhan.

Eat a big breakfast.. .

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