Sugars
debbiepringle
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Every day I go way over on my sugar. 98% of it is from fresh fruits. Today I am already over by 24g.have a lot of sugar but most of it is from 1 banana at 14 g and strawberry salad from Wendys at 13 g. Can this sugar be ignored in the counter? If not how can you possibly stay under the daily intake of 24g.
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My personal experience: I ignore sugar and I lose weight consistently. I know there are other users who do the same.
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janejellyroll wrote: »My personal experience: I ignore sugar and I lose weight consistently. I know there are other users who do the same.
Same.
MFP's default sugar goal is notoriously low. Unless you have a medical condition that requires you to monitor your sugar intake, I wouldn't give it a second though.
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I go over every day, unless you have medical reason, then don't worry about it!!0
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janejellyroll wrote: »My personal experience: I ignore sugar and I lose weight consistently. I know there are other users who do the same.
Yep, I've never tracked or paid attention to my sugar intake. It hasn't hindered my success at all
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Personally, I don't worry too much about sugar that occurs naturally like in fruits and veggies. However, I do keep an eagle eye on anything else, particularly packaged goods. That is why I rarely eat anything from a box or package and stick with fresh, whole foods. I also avoid drinks with lots of sugar like sweet tea and sodas and juices. Although, I am known on the weekends to make TX chocolate sheet cake with homemade fudge icing. Gotta feed the processed sugar beast on occasion.0
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asflatasapancake wrote: »I had that very question when I started almost 1 1/2 years ago. 75lbs lighter, I don't worry about that macro too much. Katie Couric wants you to believe that sugar is the devil. Have you ever seen it go down to Georgia and play a fiddle? I think not. As a result, sugar is not the devil.
Perfect way to identify the devil! Love it. I think you should post this on every "sugar is the devil" thread we have.
OP, I know that was not your intent with your question. Just a common topic around here that generally devolves quickly.0 -
I don't even track my sugars. 0
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I personally track carbs and fiber but not sugar and have been consistently loosing. I adjusted my fiber goal up per my Doctor's advice. Most of my sugar is from high fiber fruits and vegetables. I avoid refined sugar, corn syrup and sugar alcohols so I don't see a need to track it.0
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Swap it out for fibre0
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Thank you everyone!0
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This woman is like a correct answer machine on any thread.strong_curves wrote: »I don't even track my sugars.
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I go over every day, unless you have medical reason, then don't worry about it!!
I have a medical reason to ignore "adding" sugar
But i eat my fruits...lots of it.
I just dont add sugar to food. I eat sometimes honey and syrup but use also the sugar free options
And guess what OP....i dont even track my sugar anymore....and last stats showed my sugar levels are excellent!
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debbiepringle wrote: »Every day I go way over on my sugar. 98% of it is from fresh fruits. Today I am already over by 24g.have a lot of sugar but most of it is from 1 banana at 14 g and strawberry salad from Wendys at 13 g. Can this sugar be ignored in the counter? If not how can you possibly stay under the daily intake of 24g.
Where did the 24 grams come from? MFP's default is supposed to be 15% of total calories, so even at 1200 that should be 45 grams. Did you input a custom goal? I'm curious because I've seen that number come up before and am wondering if it is a bug.
Otherwise, what the others said. I watch sugar from time to time to make sure I'm not getting it from anywhere surprising (I never have) and just to see overall level, but I usually prefer to watch fiber. I find that at a higher calorie level (1600 or more, say) I tend not to go over, but that it would be quite easy for me to go over the standard 45 gram goal for people with 1200 calories with only fruits, veggies, dairy, and stuff like beets and sweet potatoes, and since I don't see any benefit to cutting out those foods (or the reasonable amounts of sweets I include), I ignore the limit. I think basing it on percentage of calories for people eating at a sharp deficit sometimes can be misleading.
You will see various recommendations for lower amounts, like 5% of calories or 25 grams, but all such recommendations from reputable sources refer only to "added sugar" and not to sugar from fruit and veggies and dairy. Also, the reasoning for them (for example, the WHO) is often in large part to reduce the likelihood of eating an unbalanced, non nutrient dense diet or eating too many calories, so they aren't so applicable to those eating at a deficit and carefully monitoring their diets to be sure they get adequate nutrients.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »My personal experience: I ignore sugar and I lose weight consistently. I know there are other users who do the same.
Same. I swapped out tracking sugar and track fiber instead. Still steadily losing weight.0 -
You only need to worry about the processed sugars. Sugar from fruit & veg eaten in it's raw state is generally ok because it still contains fibre, which will take the body longer to convert into energy. It's when you blend the fruit (either into smoothies or into juice) that the sugar becomes an issue. The fibre is pretty much removed and the body processes the sugars much more quickly. Well this is what i was told when I went through my diabetes clinics (I'm type 2). I lost my first 14lb just cutting out as much process sugar as possible. When that left me plateauing I then started CICO and exercise and I've lost another 17lb and thats since the 10th of March this year.0
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fearnsey71 wrote: »You only need to worry about the processed sugars. Sugar from fruit & veg eaten in it's raw state is generally ok because it still contains fibre, which will take the body longer to convert into energy. It's when you blend the fruit (either into smoothies or into juice) that the sugar becomes an issue. The fibre is pretty much removed and the body processes the sugars much more quickly. Well this is what i was told when I went through my diabetes clinics (I'm type 2). I lost my first 14lb just cutting out as much process sugar as possible. When that left me plateauing I then started CICO and exercise and I've lost another 17lb and thats since the 10th of March this year.
I don't think blending a food -- without applying any sort of filter (like a juicer has) -- will remove the fiber.0 -
fearnsey71 wrote: »You only need to worry about the processed sugars. Sugar from fruit & veg eaten in it's raw state is generally ok because it still contains fibre, which will take the body longer to convert into energy. It's when you blend the fruit (either into smoothies or into juice) that the sugar becomes an issue.
Not really.
First of all, not everyone is diabetic, and thus many of us don't have issues with how our bodies react to sugar (even not combined with fiber). Also, pairing sugar (and in this case sugar would be no different than any other carbs) with various other nutrients like protein and fat also can slow the digestion, regardless of fiber. And if you have just exercised or are trying to build muscle, an insulin spike can be a good thing, and quick carbs are often wanted--white rice can be a great post workout (or immediately pre workout meal). Exercise also tends to make people more insulin sensitive, of course.
Second, and the bigger point, is that the sugar in fruit and veggies does not contain fiber, of course. Instead, fruits and veggies also contain fiber, but this makes them no different than if you, say, add sugar to a rhubarb sauce or some oatmeal. (And milk sugar, which is just as "unprocessed"--same with honey and syrup, I assume--is not paired with fiber at all.)
Finally, smoothies still have fiber, and shouldn't be much different than eating the whole fruit (unless you tend to be someone who just is not as psychologically satisfied when drinking calories, like me). Juicing does remove the fiber (which is why I personally am not on board with the juicing phase, although if juice tastes good to you it can certainly fit in a sensible diet barring health issues. I like whole fruits and veggies better, though.0 -
Pretty sure that when I put fruit into my blender the fiber doesn't magically disappear into thin air. Could be wrong, though.0
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Maybe the blender breaks it down so much as to render it ineffective? Do you have a Vitamix?lemonsnowdrop wrote: »Pretty sure that when I put fruit into my blender the fiber doesn't magically disappear into thin air. Could be wrong, though.
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fearnsey71 wrote: »You only need to worry about the processed sugars. Sugar from fruit & veg eaten in it's raw state is generally ok because it still contains fibre, which will take the body longer to convert into energy. It's when you blend the fruit (either into smoothies or into juice) that the sugar becomes an issue. The fibre is pretty much removed and the body processes the sugars much more quickly. Well this is what i was told when I went through my diabetes clinics (I'm type 2). I lost my first 14lb just cutting out as much process sugar as possible. When that left me plateauing I then started CICO and exercise and I've lost another 17lb and thats since the 10th of March this year.
You're confusing blending with juicing. A juicer removes the fiber, a blender does not. And unless you have a medical issue, like you do with T2, sugar isn't a big deal, processed or natural.0 -
unless you have a medical condition there is no reason to track sugars; unless, of course, your sugar consumption puts you into a caloric surplus.0
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fearnsey71 wrote: »You only need to worry about the processed sugars. Sugar from fruit & veg eaten in it's raw state is generally ok because it still contains fibre, which will take the body longer to convert into energy. It's when you blend the fruit (either into smoothies or into juice) that the sugar becomes an issue. The fibre is pretty much removed and the body processes the sugars much more quickly. Well this is what i was told when I went through my diabetes clinics (I'm type 2). I lost my first 14lb just cutting out as much process sugar as possible. When that left me plateauing I then started CICO and exercise and I've lost another 17lb and thats since the 10th of March this year.
you need to worry about processed sugars because you have a medical condition....
OP has not ID'd a medical condition so this is not necessary for her.0 -
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I find it amusing and coincidental that most people who fear monger and claim added/processed sugars are evil are members who don't have profile pictures, have nothing on their profile and obviously haven't been here long. It's like they join just so they can spew crap like this.-4
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lemonsnowdrop wrote: »I find it amusing and coincidental that most people who fear monger and claim added/processed sugars are evil are members who don't have profile pictures, have nothing on their profile and obviously haven't been here long. It's like they join just so they can spew crap like this.
And never link any of the research they reference
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fearnsey71 wrote: »You only need to worry about the processed sugars. Sugar from fruit & veg eaten in it's raw state is generally ok because it still contains fibre, which will take the body longer to convert into energy. It's when you blend the fruit (either into smoothies or into juice) that the sugar becomes an issue. The fibre is pretty much removed and the body processes the sugars much more quickly. Well this is what i was told when I went through my diabetes clinics (I'm type 2). I lost my first 14lb just cutting out as much process sugar as possible. When that left me plateauing I then started CICO and exercise and I've lost another 17lb and thats since the 10th of March this year.
you need to worry about processed sugars because you have a medical condition....
OP has not ID'd a medical condition so this is not necessary for her.
There are hundreds of articles on the internet and hundreds of videos on YouTube (many by MD's dieticians and nutritionists) explaining why the totally empty calories of refined sugar are bad for you. Try Sugar and Cancer, or Sugar and Type 2 diabetes, or Sugar and Obesity, etc.
And if your having trouble meeting your caloric goal (like most people), greatly reducing refined sugar and replacing it with fat should help you meet those goals.
Don't take it from me (not an MD, dietician or nutritionist). Do your own due diligence. And please don't listen to some random poster who implies that sugar is just wonderful.
One of hundreds - http://authoritynutrition.com/10-disturbing-reasons-why-sugar-is-bad/
I enjoy the fact that you use the internet and YouTube as validation, while telling someone to ignore a poster on the internet. Good stuff.0 -
fearnsey71 wrote: »You only need to worry about the processed sugars. Sugar from fruit & veg eaten in it's raw state is generally ok because it still contains fibre, which will take the body longer to convert into energy. It's when you blend the fruit (either into smoothies or into juice) that the sugar becomes an issue. The fibre is pretty much removed and the body processes the sugars much more quickly. Well this is what i was told when I went through my diabetes clinics (I'm type 2). I lost my first 14lb just cutting out as much process sugar as possible. When that left me plateauing I then started CICO and exercise and I've lost another 17lb and thats since the 10th of March this year.
you need to worry about processed sugars because you have a medical condition....
OP has not ID'd a medical condition so this is not necessary for her.
There are hundreds of articles on the internet and hundreds of videos on YouTube (many by MD's dieticians and nutritionists) explaining why the totally empty calories of refined sugar are bad for you. Try Sugar and Cancer, or Sugar and Type 2 diabetes, or Sugar and Obesity, etc.
And if your having trouble meeting your caloric goal (like most people), greatly reducing refined sugar and replacing it with fat should help you meet those goals.
Don't take it from me (not an MD, dietician or nutritionist). Do your own due diligence. And please don't listen to some random poster who implies that sugar is just wonderful.
One of hundreds - http://authoritynutrition.com/10-disturbing-reasons-why-sugar-is-bad/
why don't you go ahead and link to a peer reviewed source, which authority nutrition is not.
I eat all kinds of sugar and I am a ten year cancer survivor, and every year at my physical my blood work comes back nearly perfect.
Did you ever think that cancer might be linked to obesity and obese people tend to consume more sugar because they are obese?
There are a thousand different factors that go into what causes cancer and trying to isolate one is idiotic.
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If you have a target of 244 you haven't rerun your goals for over a year.
At 1200 cals the sugar allowance is 48g ie 15% of calories. That's enough for a sensible sugar intake from typical fruit & veg intake.0
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