Say no to sugar
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am I right in thinking that pre-diabetes is a medical state that is a result of being overweight and that weight rather than sugar consumption is the major correlation here
(really do not know much about this so just interested)
from a quick google
"Prediabetes is when blood glucose levels are higher than normal but not high enough for a diagnosis of diabetes. Prediabetes means a person is at increased risk for developing type 2 diabetes, as well as for heart disease and stroke. Many people with prediabetes develop type 2 diabetes within 10 years.
However, modest weight loss and moderate physical activity can help people with prediabetes delay or prevent type 2 diabetes." from http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/diagnosis/#2
and the NHS
"Type 2 diabetes causes are usually multifactorial - more than one diabetes cause is involved. Often, the most overwhelming factor is a family history of type 2 diabetes.
There are a variety of risk factors for type 2 diabetes, any or all of which increase the chances of developing the condition. These include:
Obesity
Living a sedentary lifestyle
Increasing age
Bad diet
Other type 2 diabetes causes such as pregnancy or illness can be type 2 diabetes risk factors."
so is it not weight that is the issue and not sugar consumption?
I usually love your advice rabbitjb, but my mom was far from overweight and diagnosed as prediabetic????? Which she has successfully managed by diet choices.... Although her mom(my grandmother) was full on diabetic. Just questioning?
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Chantell1979 wrote: »Hi everyone......today, is a week from me not using sugar!! My Doctor told to stop drinking or eating sweets that contain sugar because I may end up to be a diabetic. So I have given up sugar folks. I feel alive and refreshed. From a week today...I haven't ate or drank any added sugars...only if in fruits or good carbs. My body feels amazing. No more sluggishness, I'm not tired or having the morning headaches. We can do it...lets get healthy. Feel free to share or add me. Thanks!!
What is a good carb??? Sighs.
Sugar is not bad. Sugar is not evil.
Glad you are following your doctor's advice and finding something that is working for you. I am disappointed that he/she didn't just advise you to reduce your calories since the most effective way to reduce your risk of diabetes is to maintain a normal body weight.
As for the marshmallows. I can't eat them anymore....and sometimes I really miss them.
True, however, many items with added sugar are not very nutritionally dense and have been a big contributor to people's weight issues. Eliminating foods with added sugar (without any other diet changes) will most likely result in weight loss for the majority of people.
Since most people have no clue about nutrition, telling the patient to simply eliminate foods with added sugars is probably the most effective way to communicate.0 -
Sandcastles61 wrote: »am I right in thinking that pre-diabetes is a medical state that is a result of being overweight and that weight rather than sugar consumption is the major correlation here
(really do not know much about this so just interested)
from a quick google
"Prediabetes is when blood glucose levels are higher than normal but not high enough for a diagnosis of diabetes. Prediabetes means a person is at increased risk for developing type 2 diabetes, as well as for heart disease and stroke. Many people with prediabetes develop type 2 diabetes within 10 years.
However, modest weight loss and moderate physical activity can help people with prediabetes delay or prevent type 2 diabetes." from http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/diagnosis/#2
and the NHS
"Type 2 diabetes causes are usually multifactorial - more than one diabetes cause is involved. Often, the most overwhelming factor is a family history of type 2 diabetes.
There are a variety of risk factors for type 2 diabetes, any or all of which increase the chances of developing the condition. These include:
Obesity
Living a sedentary lifestyle
Increasing age
Bad diet
Other type 2 diabetes causes such as pregnancy or illness can be type 2 diabetes risk factors."
so is it not weight that is the issue and not sugar consumption?
I usually love your advice rabbitjb, but my mom was far from overweight and diagnosed as prediabetic????? Which she has successfully managed by diet choices.... Although her mom(my grandmother) was full on diabetic. Just questioning?
If you read the post by rabbitjb carefullu, she mentioned that its multifactorial. Being overweight is one of the factors , others include living sedentary life, incresing age bad diet etc. As far as I know genetics also plays a role. Diabetes can run in family.
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Sandcastles61 wrote: »am I right in thinking that pre-diabetes is a medical state that is a result of being overweight and that weight rather than sugar consumption is the major correlation here
(really do not know much about this so just interested)
from a quick google
"Prediabetes is when blood glucose levels are higher than normal but not high enough for a diagnosis of diabetes. Prediabetes means a person is at increased risk for developing type 2 diabetes, as well as for heart disease and stroke. Many people with prediabetes develop type 2 diabetes within 10 years.
However, modest weight loss and moderate physical activity can help people with prediabetes delay or prevent type 2 diabetes." from http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/diagnosis/#2
and the NHS
"Type 2 diabetes causes are usually multifactorial - more than one diabetes cause is involved. Often, the most overwhelming factor is a family history of type 2 diabetes.
There are a variety of risk factors for type 2 diabetes, any or all of which increase the chances of developing the condition. These include:
Obesity
Living a sedentary lifestyle
Increasing age
Bad diet
Other type 2 diabetes causes such as pregnancy or illness can be type 2 diabetes risk factors."
so is it not weight that is the issue and not sugar consumption?
I usually love your advice rabbitjb, but my mom was far from overweight and diagnosed as prediabetic????? Which she has successfully managed by diet choices.... Although her mom(my grandmother) was full on diabetic. Just questioning?
Yeah ... I might be wrong as I said I don't know much about it and a quick scan on google does not an educated person make
It does say that the most overwhelming factor is family history
and I did read that sugar is not causative
I was just interested
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Packerjohn wrote: »Chantell1979 wrote: »Hi everyone......today, is a week from me not using sugar!! My Doctor told to stop drinking or eating sweets that contain sugar because I may end up to be a diabetic. So I have given up sugar folks. I feel alive and refreshed. From a week today...I haven't ate or drank any added sugars...only if in fruits or good carbs. My body feels amazing. No more sluggishness, I'm not tired or having the morning headaches. We can do it...lets get healthy. Feel free to share or add me. Thanks!!
What is a good carb??? Sighs.
Sugar is not bad. Sugar is not evil.
Glad you are following your doctor's advice and finding something that is working for you. I am disappointed that he/she didn't just advise you to reduce your calories since the most effective way to reduce your risk of diabetes is to maintain a normal body weight.
As for the marshmallows. I can't eat them anymore....and sometimes I really miss them.
True, however, many items with added sugar are not very nutritionally dense and have been a big contributor to people's weight issues. Eliminating foods with added sugar (without any other diet changes) will most likely result in weight loss for the majority of people.
Since most people have no clue about nutrition, telling the patient to simply eliminate foods with added sugars is probably the most effective way to communicate.
I am pretty sure that is exactly what happens
and then those people go away with a completely skewed idea of what they need to do and buy into the sugar is the debil mantra
until they come here of course... and meet us lot ... we are like the 'but wait...science' brigade
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Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Awesome that you're following doctor's orders and avoiding diabetes (assuming you're pre-diabetic since your doc would have no reason to recommend this otherwise).
However, for the general healthy (aka not diabetic/pre-diabetic) population, it's not necessary to eliminate sugar for weight loss or even for overall health.
Well since over 100 million people in the US are diabetic or pre-diabetic it seem like something many need to be looking out for.
http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/
I went from being a pre-diabetic, to having normal fasting glucose numbers, and I did it by losing weight. Simple as that. I've never tracked sugar nor have I cut anything out of my diet that I enjoy eating. I'm in fantastic health now, and I eat foods that contain both added and natural occurring sugars. I focus on CICO and eating at the correct calorie amounts for my goals. I eat all the foods I like in moderation. I've not only lost the extra weight and improved my health, but I'm also successfully maintaining now.
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I too have cut back on sugar and I'm not looking back. However, as far as I've read, sugar does not cause diabetes.
Sugar is a contributing factor to obesity which is linked to diabetes. You can still maintain a healthy lifestyle with a moderate amount of sugar but I found it easier to just cut back on sugar. If you pre-diabetic its best to follow your doctors orders anyway.
As for sugar being linked to heart disease check out this link from National Center for Biotechnology Information
Of course you can't see the actual details of the study linked about because it cost money but the conclusions are there. I've seen people here ask for "peer-reviewed" studies but that costs money.
Please note, I'm not saying sugar causes heart attacks. I am not a scientist or a doctor. There is enough evidence out there to make there is a link. However, I'm more inclined to believe that obesity is the real issue, not sugar.0 -
Regarding the idea that sugar is linked to heart disease here's another link:
Journal of the American Medical Association
For full disclosure the study appears to focus on "added sugars".
While it is fair to say sugar can be part of a healthy diet, it is false to say that there is no evidence of links to obesity or other conditions. JAMA is saying there is a link, WHO is saying there is a link, AHA is saying there is a link.
Also another link from AJCN
Is having a little sugar sprinkled on your Sunday morning oatmeal going to kill you? Probably not. But having a can of sugar sweetened soda everyday is pushing it.
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that first study excludes any consideration of weight and focuses on added sugar in diet only?
it isn't causative .. it's a correlation
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Chantell1979 wrote: »Hi everyone......today, is a week from me not using sugar!! My Doctor told to stop drinking or eating sweets that contain sugar because I may end up to be a diabetic.
If you eat calories you may end up heavier, or lighter... interesting.
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I'm down 111 pounds on sugar. I guess it also looks like 111 pounds. Maybe sugar isn't the actual issue.GaleHawkins wrote: »
Chantell that is awesome and do not look back. I did it 8 months ago when in very poor health at age 63. In 30 days my pain level had dropped so much I no longer needed any meds to manage it. I am only down 25 pounds off of sugar but it looks more like a 50 pound lost. Plus I feel better than I have in 40 years.
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Awww another anti-sugar thread? Everything in moderation! Most people can eat added/refined sugar and still be healthy. I'm living proof. Sugar tastes good and provides quick energy. Our blood is made up of glucose. It's not evil. It can be enjoyed every day.
To the OP, good job at listening to your doctor, but not everyone has a medical issue like you. Just my thoughts.0 -
Chantell1979 wrote: »Hi everyone......today, is a week from me not using sugar!! My Doctor told to stop drinking or eating sweets that contain sugar because I may end up to be a diabetic. So I have given up sugar folks. I feel alive and refreshed. From a week today...I haven't ate or drank any added sugars...only if in fruits or good carbs. My body feels amazing. No more sluggishness, I'm not tired or having the morning headaches. We can do it...lets get healthy. Feel free to share or add me. Thanks!!
Great job! Health is the best reward.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Chantell1979 wrote: »So I have given up sugar folks.
If you were eating/drinking it in excess and had health issues that would be negatively affected by it, good for you. I tend to think that doctors make these blanket recommendations if they think their patient can't moderate for some reason (or simply because they assume everyone cheats, which I find a negative approach and don't like), but it's certainly possible you have not successfully moderated in the past. Sounds like it's early days but that you are working on improving your health and enjoying your new plan. If you do start to struggle (and even if not) there's a great community of experienced T2 and pre-diabetic/former pre-diabetics on MFP who will likely have wise advice for you.My body feels amazing. No more sluggishness, I'm not tired or having the morning headaches. We can do it...lets get healthy. Feel free to share or add me. Thanks!!
I feel good too, I'm not sluggish (I ran 7 miles yesterday, plus spent extra time in the gym doing some cardio stuff), and I don't have morning headaches. I do seem to be woken up at a ridiculously early time so am tired, but I blame my cat, not sugar. I generally am not tired during the day. I think I'm pretty healthy too, and eat a good diet.
Are you saying I need to quit all sugar (fruit and dairy too?) to be healthy? Even though I eat it in moderation within an overall healthy diet?
This seems a rather harsh response, especially since the OP specifically said she was following her doctor's orders and giving up beverages with added sugar, and that she was still eating fruit and foods with sugar naturally in them.
The OP feels better while following her doctor's advice. That seems very unrelated to how you feel or should eat.0 -
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Probably has nothing to do with sugar and all in your head...Chantell1979 wrote: »Hi everyone......today, is a week from me not using sugar!! My Doctor told to stop drinking or eating sweets that contain sugar because I may end up to be a diabetic. So I have given up sugar folks. I feel alive and refreshed. From a week today...I haven't ate or drank any added sugars...only if in fruits or good carbs. My body feels amazing. No more sluggishness, I'm not tired or having the morning headaches.
I am healthy while eating sugar...Chantell1979 wrote: »We can do it...lets get healthy. Feel free to share or add me. Thanks!!
I am glad you are avoiding diabetes and kudos to you for taking charge of your health. For the rest of the population that is not on the verge of diabetes, avoiding sugar is not necessary...
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What's the harsh part?Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Chantell1979 wrote: »So I have given up sugar folks.
If you were eating/drinking it in excess and had health issues that would be negatively affected by it, good for you. I tend to think that doctors make these blanket recommendations if they think their patient can't moderate for some reason (or simply because they assume everyone cheats, which I find a negative approach and don't like), but it's certainly possible you have not successfully moderated in the past. Sounds like it's early days but that you are working on improving your health and enjoying your new plan. If you do start to struggle (and even if not) there's a great community of experienced T2 and pre-diabetic/former pre-diabetics on MFP who will likely have wise advice for you.My body feels amazing. No more sluggishness, I'm not tired or having the morning headaches. We can do it...lets get healthy. Feel free to share or add me. Thanks!!
I feel good too, I'm not sluggish (I ran 7 miles yesterday, plus spent extra time in the gym doing some cardio stuff), and I don't have morning headaches. I do seem to be woken up at a ridiculously early time so am tired, but I blame my cat, not sugar. I generally am not tired during the day. I think I'm pretty healthy too, and eat a good diet.
Are you saying I need to quit all sugar (fruit and dairy too?) to be healthy? Even though I eat it in moderation within an overall healthy diet?
This seems a rather harsh response, especially since the OP specifically said she was following her doctor's orders and giving up beverages with added sugar, and that she was still eating fruit and foods with sugar naturally in them.
The OP feels better while following her doctor's advice. That seems very unrelated to how you feel or should eat.
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Good for you! I find that I feel better also when I do not consume a lot of added sugar (meaning candy, cookies, ice cream but even juices also). Even if the resulting improvements is because of a corresponding increase in healthier foods, you're feeling better so this is obviously working for you. Keep treating yourself well and giving your body the nutrition it needs.0
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am I right in thinking that pre-diabetes is a medical state that is a result of being overweight and that weight rather than sugar consumption is the major correlation here
(really do not know much about this so just interested)
from a quick google
"Prediabetes is when blood glucose levels are higher than normal but not high enough for a diagnosis of diabetes. Prediabetes means a person is at increased risk for developing type 2 diabetes, as well as for heart disease and stroke. Many people with prediabetes develop type 2 diabetes within 10 years.
However, modest weight loss and moderate physical activity can help people with prediabetes delay or prevent type 2 diabetes." from http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/diagnosis/#2
and the NHS
"Type 2 diabetes causes are usually multifactorial - more than one diabetes cause is involved. Often, the most overwhelming factor is a family history of type 2 diabetes.
There are a variety of risk factors for type 2 diabetes, any or all of which increase the chances of developing the condition. These include:
Obesity
Living a sedentary lifestyle
Increasing age
Bad diet
Other type 2 diabetes causes such as pregnancy or illness can be type 2 diabetes risk factors."
so is it not weight that is the issue and not sugar consumption?
Insulin resistance (pre-diabetic) is not limited to those who are overweight or obese. I know a very thin guy (think Barney Fife type build) who became pre-diabetic. His doctor gave him the same advice. Give up sugary beverages. He switched from Coca-Cola to Coke Zero and so far has been able to keep his blood sugar under control.
Age may be the key factor for those not overweight though (guy above is mid-50's). Poor diet does tend to catch up with you, regardless of weight.0 -
Chantell1979 wrote: »Hi everyone......today, is a week from me not using sugar!! My Doctor told to stop drinking or eating sweets that contain sugar because I may end up to be a diabetic. So I have given up sugar folks. I feel alive and refreshed. From a week today...I haven't ate or drank any added sugars...only if in fruits or good carbs. My body feels amazing. No more sluggishness, I'm not tired or having the morning headaches. We can do it...lets get healthy. Feel free to share or add me. Thanks!!
Good for you! and following through to get healthy. Happy to hear you're feeling great!
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Chantell1979 wrote: »So I have given up sugar folks.
This seems a rather harsh response, especially since the OP specifically said she was following her doctor's orders and giving up beverages with added sugar, and that she was still eating fruit and foods with sugar naturally in them.
The OP feels better while following her doctor's advice. That seems very unrelated to how you feel or should eat.
I agree with @Need2Exerc1se. You have to do what works for you. I can eat sugar with no issue, but I'm sensitive to wheat. (not celiac, it's just a minor food allergy for me) I love bread like more than anything in this world, but when I eat it I get very bloated and feel sluggish. I've been trying to cut back on foods containing wheat because I just feel better. The added benefit is that maybe I'll lose some weight since these foods are high in calories. I'm not saying everyone should give up wheat.
OP, do what works best for you. If it makes you feel good to cut sugar and that also helps you lose weight you should do that.
Feel free to add me if you like.0 -
Sandcastles61 wrote: »am I right in thinking that pre-diabetes is a medical state that is a result of being overweight and that weight rather than sugar consumption is the major correlation here
(really do not know much about this so just interested)
from a quick google
"Prediabetes is when blood glucose levels are higher than normal but not high enough for a diagnosis of diabetes. Prediabetes means a person is at increased risk for developing type 2 diabetes, as well as for heart disease and stroke. Many people with prediabetes develop type 2 diabetes within 10 years.
However, modest weight loss and moderate physical activity can help people with prediabetes delay or prevent type 2 diabetes." from http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/diagnosis/#2
and the NHS
"Type 2 diabetes causes are usually multifactorial - more than one diabetes cause is involved. Often, the most overwhelming factor is a family history of type 2 diabetes.
There are a variety of risk factors for type 2 diabetes, any or all of which increase the chances of developing the condition. These include:
Obesity
Living a sedentary lifestyle
Increasing age
Bad diet
Other type 2 diabetes causes such as pregnancy or illness can be type 2 diabetes risk factors."
so is it not weight that is the issue and not sugar consumption?
I usually love your advice rabbitjb, but my mom was far from overweight and diagnosed as prediabetic????? Which she has successfully managed by diet choices.... Although her mom(my grandmother) was full on diabetic. Just questioning?
It's because people forget about Type 1 diabetes. Sometimes you get stuck with it regardless of weight.0 -
Sandcastles61 wrote: »am I right in thinking that pre-diabetes is a medical state that is a result of being overweight and that weight rather than sugar consumption is the major correlation here
(really do not know much about this so just interested)
from a quick google
"Prediabetes is when blood glucose levels are higher than normal but not high enough for a diagnosis of diabetes. Prediabetes means a person is at increased risk for developing type 2 diabetes, as well as for heart disease and stroke. Many people with prediabetes develop type 2 diabetes within 10 years.
However, modest weight loss and moderate physical activity can help people with prediabetes delay or prevent type 2 diabetes." from http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/diagnosis/#2
and the NHS
"Type 2 diabetes causes are usually multifactorial - more than one diabetes cause is involved. Often, the most overwhelming factor is a family history of type 2 diabetes.
There are a variety of risk factors for type 2 diabetes, any or all of which increase the chances of developing the condition. These include:
Obesity
Living a sedentary lifestyle
Increasing age
Bad diet
Other type 2 diabetes causes such as pregnancy or illness can be type 2 diabetes risk factors."
so is it not weight that is the issue and not sugar consumption?
I usually love your advice rabbitjb, but my mom was far from overweight and diagnosed as prediabetic????? Which she has successfully managed by diet choices.... Although her mom(my grandmother) was full on diabetic. Just questioning?
Yeah ... I might be wrong as I said I don't know much about it and a quick scan on google does not an educated person make
It does say that the most overwhelming factor is family history
and I did read that sugar is not causative
I was just interested
Sugar may not be causative. Many studies have failed to prove it as a cause. Either it is not a cause, or it works so slowly that it's nearly impossible to prove anything other than correlation. But whatever the cause, once you are pre-diabetic or diabetic, sugar is a major factor in controlling the condition. And since the OP stated she does have the condition, I'm not sure why everyone is picking on her post.0 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Chantell1979 wrote: »Hi everyone......today, is a week from me not using sugar!! My Doctor told to stop drinking or eating sweets that contain sugar because I may end up to be a diabetic. So I have given up sugar folks. I feel alive and refreshed. From a week today...I haven't ate or drank any added sugars...only if in fruits or good carbs. My body feels amazing. No more sluggishness, I'm not tired or having the morning headaches. We can do it...lets get healthy. Feel free to share or add me. Thanks!!
What is a good carb??? Sighs.
Sugar is not bad. Sugar is not evil.
Glad you are following your doctor's advice and finding something that is working for you. I am disappointed that he/she didn't just advise you to reduce your calories since the most effective way to reduce your risk of diabetes is to maintain a normal body weight.
As for the marshmallows. I can't eat them anymore....and sometimes I really miss them.
True, however, many items with added sugar are not very nutritionally dense and have been a big contributor to people's weight issues. Eliminating foods with added sugar (without any other diet changes) will most likely result in weight loss for the majority of people.
Since most people have no clue about nutrition, telling the patient to simply eliminate foods with added sugars is probably the most effective way to communicate.
I don't need a doctor to dumb things down for me. And if most people have no clue about nutrition, educate them instead of misinforming them. Unacceptable.
Educate them. Maybe in a land where unicorns prance under rainbows. Don't you think people know drinking a 2 liter bottle of Coke or Mountain Dew a day isn't good for you? Still goes on. There is plenty of information out there people choose to ignore.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Sandcastles61 wrote: »am I right in thinking that pre-diabetes is a medical state that is a result of being overweight and that weight rather than sugar consumption is the major correlation here
(really do not know much about this so just interested)
from a quick google
"Prediabetes is when blood glucose levels are higher than normal but not high enough for a diagnosis of diabetes. Prediabetes means a person is at increased risk for developing type 2 diabetes, as well as for heart disease and stroke. Many people with prediabetes develop type 2 diabetes within 10 years.
However, modest weight loss and moderate physical activity can help people with prediabetes delay or prevent type 2 diabetes." from http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/diagnosis/#2
and the NHS
"Type 2 diabetes causes are usually multifactorial - more than one diabetes cause is involved. Often, the most overwhelming factor is a family history of type 2 diabetes.
There are a variety of risk factors for type 2 diabetes, any or all of which increase the chances of developing the condition. These include:
Obesity
Living a sedentary lifestyle
Increasing age
Bad diet
Other type 2 diabetes causes such as pregnancy or illness can be type 2 diabetes risk factors."
so is it not weight that is the issue and not sugar consumption?
I usually love your advice rabbitjb, but my mom was far from overweight and diagnosed as prediabetic????? Which she has successfully managed by diet choices.... Although her mom(my grandmother) was full on diabetic. Just questioning?
Yeah ... I might be wrong as I said I don't know much about it and a quick scan on google does not an educated person make
It does say that the most overwhelming factor is family history
and I did read that sugar is not causative
I was just interested
Sugar may not be causative. Many studies have failed to prove it as a cause. Either it is not a cause, or it works so slowly that it's nearly impossible to prove anything other than correlation. But whatever the cause, once you are pre-diabetic or diabetic, sugar is a major factor in controlling the condition. And since the OP stated she does have the condition, I'm not sure why everyone is picking on her post.
Because she is inferring that in order to be healthy, all of us, even those not at risk for diabetes, need to give up sugar.
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FitnessTim wrote: »Regarding the idea that sugar is linked to heart disease here's another link:
Journal of the American Medical Association
For full disclosure the study appears to focus on "added sugars".
While it is fair to say sugar can be part of a healthy diet, it is false to say that there is no evidence of links to obesity or other conditions. JAMA is saying there is a link, WHO is saying there is a link, AHA is saying there is a link.
Also another link from AJCN
Is having a little sugar sprinkled on your Sunday morning oatmeal going to kill you? Probably not. But having a can of sugar sweetened soda everyday is pushing it.
Nope, you've got it wrong. They are saying there's a link with EXCESS sugar.
It's a very important distinction.
You're also forgetting that EXCESS sugar consumption usually goes hand in hand with excess caloric consumption in general, which... leads to all those other conditions.
Confounding variables, you cannot get around them.
Aaaaand, we're back to being moderate. With sugar, AND with calories.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »FitnessTim wrote: »Regarding the idea that sugar is linked to heart disease here's another link:
Journal of the American Medical Association
For full disclosure the study appears to focus on "added sugars".
While it is fair to say sugar can be part of a healthy diet, it is false to say that there is no evidence of links to obesity or other conditions. JAMA is saying there is a link, WHO is saying there is a link, AHA is saying there is a link.
Also another link from AJCN
Is having a little sugar sprinkled on your Sunday morning oatmeal going to kill you? Probably not. But having a can of sugar sweetened soda everyday is pushing it.
Nope, you've got it wrong. They are saying there's a link with EXCESS sugar.
It's a very important distinction.
This apparently did not sink in while reading the other sugar thread.0 -
It's like saying that calories are linked to weight gain so we shouldn't have any calories.Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »FitnessTim wrote: »Regarding the idea that sugar is linked to heart disease here's another link:
Journal of the American Medical Association
For full disclosure the study appears to focus on "added sugars".
While it is fair to say sugar can be part of a healthy diet, it is false to say that there is no evidence of links to obesity or other conditions. JAMA is saying there is a link, WHO is saying there is a link, AHA is saying there is a link.
Also another link from AJCN
Is having a little sugar sprinkled on your Sunday morning oatmeal going to kill you? Probably not. But having a can of sugar sweetened soda everyday is pushing it.
Nope, you've got it wrong. They are saying there's a link with EXCESS sugar.
It's a very important distinction.
This apparently did not sink in while reading the other sugar thread.
At some point you have to wonder whether it's not a question of not understanding the difference between intake and excessive intake, but just purposefully ignoring it.
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