The low calorie liquid diet (LCLD) part 2
Replies
-
weezybeezy91 wrote: »thankyou4thevenom wrote: »weezybeezy91 wrote: »Why would a hospital put you on this diet? Also, if you don't mind me asking, why were you in the hospital?
I was referred by my doctor after having no luck with losing weight. The hospital put me on the diet for 2 reasons:
1. To kick start weightloss
2. To consider me for biatric surgery, if they can't help me lose weight then this diet would be the one I'd need to go on before and after surgery so they need to know I can follow instructions
Okay your diet makes much more sense now. It's used for specific reasons. To see if you really want to lose weight. To prepare you for what will be your massively reduced intake. To shrink your liver so surgery is easier.
It's not the answer to weight loss but rather a tool for preparing you for surgery.
Well it is for weightloss too but not long term as that would be ridiculous. I won't go back to food straight away, just replace a pint of milk here and there for food until I can have 100% food
It's a tool that results in weightloss but it's actually preparing you for surgery. If they were going to prescribe you a diet to just lose weight they would have not given you that one. That one is for pre surgery patients.0 -
There is a difference between a medically supervised vlcd and self imposed vlcd. The latter is not allowed.techgal128 wrote: »
With the said. OP the reason a lot of people lose hair is the lack of fst in their diet. Fat is an essential nutrient which regulates hormone production. Having a diet that lacks in adequate amounts of fats can lead to issues such as brittle nails, skin issues (especially breakouts) and hail falling out.
The bigger issue with low cal diets are a few things (not that this will change your mind). You will increase the amount of metabolic adaptation from suppressing calories and the increased muscle loss from lack of protein. Essentially, your basal/resting metabolic functions will be lower, which also lowers your over total daily energy expenditure or maintenance calories. Lower maintenance calories makes it easier to gain weight.
0 -
Also, since you had pcos did you ever do a low carb diet?0
-
IsaackGMOON wrote: »weezybeezy91 wrote: »shrinkingletters wrote: »weezybeezy91 wrote: »IsaackGMOON wrote: »This seems so miserable.
Well I don't feel hungry, just crave food. The only miserable thing about it is not being able to have alcohol
Feeling hungry and craving is two completely different things. I was full up but still fancied eating because I missed chewing
lol so how are you going to go to social events like a birthday or idk.. family dinner, or something?
It's only for four weeks, I'm sure I'll survive0 -
weezybeezy91 wrote: »
For women with pcos, a low carb or even ketogenic diet will be the one that produces the best results. In some cases, those with pcos also tend to have some level of insulin resistance which is why a lot of other diets fail. That is probably why you struggled in the past.0 -
Its interesting that you found out about PCOS a month ago yet 8 days ago chose a diet that has less application toward your particular condition.0
-
Op this diet doesn't teach you the tools needed for long term success.
Many here have lost weight while eating the foods they love. They learned moderation and portion control.
Anyone can lay in a hospital bed all week and starve themselves on a vlcd. Anyone will lose weight that way so you did nothing special. No hard work involved .
0 -
But with a medical condition, its another story. Some diets are better in addressing those needs.IsaackGMOON wrote: »weezybeezy91 wrote: »
Well low-carbing or whatever is just another way of restricting calories... which is the most essential part of weight loss.
Different methods of restricting calories are better, some are stupid, some are dangerous.
0 -
I don't agree with what you're doing, but I'm also not a weight loss specialist at a medical clinic. It worries me that (beyond telling you not to exercise) they haven't explained any of the health risks to you; and quite honestly, it's worth picking up the phone and asking. You're 24, you can and should be your own advocate when it comes to your health. I know you're trying to do that by losing weight, but that's only one piece of the puzzle.
Follow your diet for a month, you're determined. See the results you want to see. But know those will not be the results that continue over time. I'm sure you'd like to lose the 98lbs you want to quickly; but the reality is, I'm 80 lbs down and look great because I lost my weight slowly; drop quickly and loose skin will be more of an appearance issue than the body fat ever was. It's all a balancing act.
I think what a lot of the "mean" posters are trying to get you to think through is that the immediate things we do have a long term effect on our bodies and often, our mental health. These people truly want the best for you.
I hope this diet gives you the results you want, I hope you take the time to learn healthy, positive habits, and I hope that the medical clinic starts giving you the crucial information they haven't bothered to.0 -
I'm wondering about this-16 stone, isn't that about 224 lbs? (Maybe my calculation is wrong). While that definitely puts you into the obese category I'm still surprised that your doctor thinks surgery is necessary at this stage, especially as young as you are. For the record, I also have PCOS and my SW was a bit over 230 lbs back in April. I'm also 51 years old. While my doctor was on my case about losing weight due to heart and cholesterol issues he did not think bariatric surgery was necessary. He told me to start tracking calories and get more exercise. I've lost 50 lbs so far by practicing moderation which isn't always easy but was way better than liquid diets and surgery. Still, I'm glad you are under medical supervision. Hopefully they will be counseling you on developing healthy eating habits. Good luck!0 -
Many here have had experience with liquid diets, and know people who have had weight loss surgery. These were sad, sad experiences. That is why so many are advising eating real food that you weigh on a digital scale to make sure you are only eating the amount of calories you think you are eating. Try to keep fewer calories going in than calories going out. Try your absolute hardest and best before surgery.0
-
The OP's picture does not look like someone with nearly 100lbs to lose.0
-
You hungry?0
-
This content has been removed.
-
This content has been removed.
-
weezybeezy91 wrote: »weezybeezy91 wrote: »
No, it's worse than the normal urge, and that's why it fails for a lot of people.
Once you start to eat it's like you've come out of a famine and you want to eat everything, especially carbs and sugar. My experience was of a 650 kcal a day liquid diet, so you may not be so bad if it's 1100-1200.
I've tried all sorts over the years, still fat.. I'm finally realising now that there is no easy option, quick fix etc.. it's all hard and ANY diet will work, you just have to stick to it.
Are you planning to exercise on this diet? and if so, will you be able to eat more?
Hiya yes they've advised me not to excersize for the first four weeks but I have been a bit naughty and gone on a couple of walks.
Yes after the four weeks I'll be having more and more food each month aswell as excersizing.
I really hope you get to your weight soon. It's so tough
No your can not have more food.
Like you stated before you dont lose on 1000 to 1200. So you wont lose it after your liquid diet either isnt it...And remember you have PCOS which makes it even harder for you. That fact wont be gone after your 4 weeks either.
All according to your own words.weezybeezy91 wrote: »kristen6350 wrote: »I'm not sure why you would want to go on a liquid diet of 1100-1200 calories when you can EAT and have the same affect though? I'm pondering that while choppin' down on some Popcorn...nom nom nom.
I've tried eating that many calories before an didn't lose anything that's why I'm on this, it's drastic but I've tried so many other things. Geuss our bodies are all different. Also I have PCOS so it's harder for me to lose weight than anyone else
You know what you are saying here???
That even after a surgery or this diet..you never ever can eat more than 1000 to 1200 calories...because when you lose weight you have to even consume less to maintain the smaller body or lose weight.
The more you lose the smaller your deficit is ( or becomes). Just because your smaller body uses less.
Now for the second part...you are not special and certainly not like anyone else...there are lots on here that have to same medical issue PCOS. And lose weight just fine...slower yes. But they lose!
Than which obesity hospital is doing this? Just so we know were we have to stay away from
You seem to be happy about them so please provide the name so people who want this can go there too. And people who dont want to, stay away.
Also the whole non exercise story sounds off to me...Never heard that advice from any doctor or clinic. What was the reason for that? They must have giving you a reason for that...i am intrigued!
And finally when is your surgery?
0 -
-
So many red flags. Calories are calories whether they are solid or liquid. You can't "jump start" weight loss. Not eating proper nutrition for a month is a terrible idea. You're listening to your doctor about this diet, but not about exercise? That's a huge contradiction.0
-
I started around the ops weight.I was miserable and hated the way I looked. I went to my doctor and told him I couldn't lose weight. He said ," your eating more then you think. Weight loss comes down to calories" so I had to face the facts , and stop making excuses. Finally , I ate at a reasonable yet responsible deficit. I enjoyed the foods I loved , and learned portion control. I weighed my foods on a food scale. I learned how to hit my macros and give my body the nutrients it needs .
I'm now 135lbs. No surgery . No liquid diets . no fad diets. no mlm marketing products .
It took hard work . I learned everything I needed for long term success.
Often people who take the easy way out, end up back in the same situation again.0 -
weezybeezy91 wrote: »weezybeezy91 wrote: »
No, it's worse than the normal urge, and that's why it fails for a lot of people.
Once you start to eat it's like you've come out of a famine and you want to eat everything, especially carbs and sugar. My experience was of a 650 kcal a day liquid diet, so you may not be so bad if it's 1100-1200.
I've tried all sorts over the years, still fat.. I'm finally realising now that there is no easy option, quick fix etc.. it's all hard and ANY diet will work, you just have to stick to it.
Are you planning to exercise on this diet? and if so, will you be able to eat more?
Hiya yes they've advised me not to excersize for the first four weeks but I have been a bit naughty and gone on a couple of walks.
Yes after the four weeks I'll be having more and more food each month aswell as excersizing.
I really hope you get to your weight soon. It's so tough
No your can not have more food.
Like you stated before you dont lose on 1000 to 1200. So you wont lose it after your liquid diet either isnt it...And remember you have PCOS which makes it even harder for you. That fact wont be gone after your 4 weeks either.
All according to your own words.weezybeezy91 wrote: »kristen6350 wrote: »I'm not sure why you would want to go on a liquid diet of 1100-1200 calories when you can EAT and have the same affect though? I'm pondering that while choppin' down on some Popcorn...nom nom nom.
I've tried eating that many calories before an didn't lose anything that's why I'm on this, it's drastic but I've tried so many other things. Geuss our bodies are all different. Also I have PCOS so it's harder for me to lose weight than anyone else
You know what you are saying here???
That even after a surgery or this diet..you never ever can eat more than 1000 to 1200 calories...because when you lose weight you have to even consume less to maintain the smaller body or lose weight.
The more you lose the smaller your deficit is ( or becomes). Just because your smaller body uses less.
Now for the second part...you are not special and certainly not like anyone else...there are lots on here that have to same medical issue PCOS. And lose weight just fine...slower yes. But they lose!
Than which obesity hospital is doing this? Just so we know were we have to stay away from
You seem to be happy about them so please provide the name so people who want this can go there too. And people who dont want to, stay away.
Also the whole non exercise story sounds off to me...Never heard that advice from any doctor or clinic. What was the reason for that? They must have giving you a reason for that...i am intrigued!
And finally when is your surgery?
I didn't think for one minute I'm special so please don't jump to conclusions
I can't excersize as this diet can make me feel dizzy
My surgery will be in a year but only if I don't lose weight, but they have told me that if I stick with their methods I shouldn't have to.0 -
weezybeezy91 wrote: »weezybeezy91 wrote: »
No, it's worse than the normal urge, and that's why it fails for a lot of people.
Once you start to eat it's like you've come out of a famine and you want to eat everything, especially carbs and sugar. My experience was of a 650 kcal a day liquid diet, so you may not be so bad if it's 1100-1200.
I've tried all sorts over the years, still fat.. I'm finally realising now that there is no easy option, quick fix etc.. it's all hard and ANY diet will work, you just have to stick to it.
Are you planning to exercise on this diet? and if so, will you be able to eat more?
Hiya yes they've advised me not to excersize for the first four weeks but I have been a bit naughty and gone on a couple of walks.
Yes after the four weeks I'll be having more and more food each month aswell as excersizing.
I really hope you get to your weight soon. It's so tough
No your can not have more food.
Like you stated before you dont lose on 1000 to 1200. So you wont lose it after your liquid diet either isnt it...And remember you have PCOS which makes it even harder for you. That fact wont be gone after your 4 weeks either.
All according to your own words.weezybeezy91 wrote: »kristen6350 wrote: »I'm not sure why you would want to go on a liquid diet of 1100-1200 calories when you can EAT and have the same affect though? I'm pondering that while choppin' down on some Popcorn...nom nom nom.
I've tried eating that many calories before an didn't lose anything that's why I'm on this, it's drastic but I've tried so many other things. Geuss our bodies are all different. Also I have PCOS so it's harder for me to lose weight than anyone else
You know what you are saying here???
That even after a surgery or this diet..you never ever can eat more than 1000 to 1200 calories...because when you lose weight you have to even consume less to maintain the smaller body or lose weight.
The more you lose the smaller your deficit is ( or becomes). Just because your smaller body uses less.
Now for the second part...you are not special and certainly not like anyone else...there are lots on here that have to same medical issue PCOS. And lose weight just fine...slower yes. But they lose!
Than which obesity hospital is doing this? Just so we know were we have to stay away from
You seem to be happy about them so please provide the name so people who want this can go there too. And people who dont want to, stay away.
Also the whole non exercise story sounds off to me...Never heard that advice from any doctor or clinic. What was the reason for that? They must have giving you a reason for that...i am intrigued!
And finally when is your surgery?
Also I can have more food. All my calories are from milk, so I will be replacing the milk with food more and more until my diet will be all food.0 -
I started so much fatter than you, and if a doctor told me to do this, then have surgery, I'd have slapped them. What a horrid thing to do to your body, especially when so young.0
-
This content has been removed.
-
Alatariel75 wrote: »I started so much fatter than you, and if a doctor told me to do this, then have surgery, I'd have slapped them. What a horrid thing to do to your body, especially when so young.
Yep. It makes me sad and makes me angry. The idea that a doctor prescribed something that is only drinking milk and is so deficient that if she works out she'll get dizzy and sick....let's me know that some doctors are more into their business model than making the correct medical decisions. IMO.
But not being able to work out is a bonus lmao.0 -
weezybeezy91 wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »I started so much fatter than you, and if a doctor told me to do this, then have surgery, I'd have slapped them. What a horrid thing to do to your body, especially when so young.
Yep. It makes me sad and makes me angry. The idea that a doctor prescribed something that is only drinking milk and is so deficient that if she works out she'll get dizzy and sick....let's me know that some doctors are more into their business model than making the correct medical decisions. IMO.
But not being able to work out is a bonus lmao.
Is inactivity your long term goal?0 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »I started so much fatter than you, and if a doctor told me to do this, then have surgery, I'd have slapped them. What a horrid thing to do to your body, especially when so young.
Yep. It makes me sad and makes me angry. The idea that a doctor prescribed something that is only drinking milk and is so deficient that if she works out she'll get dizzy and sick....let's me know that some doctors are more into their business model than making the correct medical decisions. IMO.
Tbh we dont know all the facts, but if she is being medically supervised then its just a VLCD, which is not unusual. The liquids appear to be nutritionally dense, so id give them the benefit of the doubt. As its the UK and would imagine on the NHS, then im not sure the Dr stands to gain anything at all, unless it was private medicine.
I would have more reservations of missing out on portion control and eating a balanced diet for the long terms would have more chance to be effective.
Suggesting surgery or even a VLCD for someone so young and with so little to lose seems questionable.0 -
weezybeezy91 wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »I started so much fatter than you, and if a doctor told me to do this, then have surgery, I'd have slapped them. What a horrid thing to do to your body, especially when so young.
Yep. It makes me sad and makes me angry. The idea that a doctor prescribed something that is only drinking milk and is so deficient that if she works out she'll get dizzy and sick....let's me know that some doctors are more into their business model than making the correct medical decisions. IMO.
But not being able to work out is a bonus lmao.
Yet you're doing it anyway AMA (against medical advice). I thought the point of this was to prove you could follow doctor's instructions... which you're not doing.
I'm not here to bash you, I just have read your thread and hope that at some point in the next year you can start being more honest with yourself and more accountable for failures when you clearly don't follow instructions, even when they're given to you by a doctor. If you and only you know what's best for you, then great, have at it. But telling us "my doctor says it's fine to do this!" but then out the other side of your mouth imply "but they don't know me, so I'm gonna exercise anyways" sounds like you don't quite understand what the words "following directions" means. 0 -
This content has been removed.
This discussion has been closed.
Categories
- All Categories
- 1.4M Health, Wellness and Goals
- 393.3K Introduce Yourself
- 43.8K Getting Started
- 260.2K Health and Weight Loss
- 175.9K Food and Nutrition
- 47.4K Recipes
- 232.5K Fitness and Exercise
- 424 Sleep, Mindfulness and Overall Wellness
- 6.5K Goal: Maintaining Weight
- 8.5K Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
- 153K Motivation and Support
- 8K Challenges
- 1.3K Debate Club
- 96.3K Chit-Chat
- 2.5K Fun and Games
- 3.7K MyFitnessPal Information
- 24 News and Announcements
- 1.1K Feature Suggestions and Ideas
- 2.6K MyFitnessPal Tech Support Questions