Squats and Big Booties
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I was blessed with those thick thighs and an ample tush. I've done all that the others in this thread are suggesting to you.
This was me before heavy lifting size 12 156lbs (on a good day):
This is me after heavy lifting size 6 145(as of today):
Great to see results from someone with a similar body type. Great job and I as I mentioned in earlier posts I plan to add heavy lifting into my routine.0 -
Heavy weight low rep (1-5) will increase the strength and improve the composition in your 'derriere' but will do little for hypertrophy.
And just for the record this thread could use some photos.
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I don't know how often it has to be said. I guess a lot. You lose weight/fat from a calorie deficit. You will get awesome looking legs and butt from the aforementioned exercises, mainly squats and Deadlifts. Lift heavy. Very heavy with low reps. You will look awesome. But, you're confusing size with fat. You will not enlarge your legs and butt lifting heavy. Lose the fat. Lift heavy and create strong lean muscle underneath. You will not get big unless you want to, and hen you have to work at it very, very hard for years to make it happen. It's not easy, and no matter what you do, it will not happen in the next 12 months, even if you really, really want it o.
What he said. Especially as a female it is hard to bulk up since we don't have the same hormones. Lift heavy, low rep.0 -
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OP: you are a noob. You know what works for beginners, ANYTHING! 5 reps, 10, 20. As long as the last ones are challenging and there is planned progression. If you are doing a million bodyweight squats, you are using the aerobic energy system. This will burn more calories but won't help much for retention of LBM. Lorinna Lynn's photos are the best example IMO of what happens when you do lots of aerobic exercises only.
"the harder you train, the better your genetics become"
I never said I was a beginner. I have began working out 20 years ago and strength training for 10. I was thin and fit my entire adult life, until I gained the last few years. But then I lifted weights to achieve a level of fitness, not to lose weight. I have found doing what I used to hasn't really worked for me. I have been a member of MFP for almost two years and while these forums can be entertaining, I find that some posters do believe in a one size fits all approach, ignoring the many variables at play when it comes to the body. Since I became a MFP member I did 3 rounds of Insanity, while tracking and while some had remarkable results with the program, I did not. My endurance improved, I dropped a few inches, no lbs and my pants were actually tighter in my thighs. A trainer friend of mine gave me a program which did involve heavy lifting for most of the moves and while eating at a calorie deficit, no significant change. I tried routines I used to do when I was thin, spent six days a week in the gym, following up my strength workouts with cardio, and nothing. I even went to the doctor to have my thyroid checked and found everything came back normal. I listened to many of you talking about BMR and TDEE and adjusted my calories accordingly only to gain and lose the same 5lbs over the course of a 1 and a 1/2. So what changed, three months ago I joined Weight Watchers and I started C25K and started to lose weight. I am actually eating more and exercising less and getting more results. Now there have been some weeks when the scale went up or didn't change, in spite exercise and a perfect diet that week. Why this happens, who knows. This is not to say MFP doesn't work or your advice doesn't work. It does work, but everything isn't for everyone. That is in the only point I've tried to make. As a trainer, if you gave everyone the same plan, what do they need you for. There is just one answer right? I fee like some not all, but some MFP members try to push there plan an their goals and their programs on everyone. If there really was only one way, then we would all be fit and there wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar fitness industry.0 -
DID I JUST READ BIG BOOTIES?!0
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OP: you are a noob. You know what works for beginners, ANYTHING! 5 reps, 10, 20. As long as the last ones are challenging and there is planned progression. If you are doing a million bodyweight squats, you are using the aerobic energy system. This will burn more calories but won't help much for retention of LBM. Lorinna Lynn's photos are the best example IMO of what happens when you do lots of aerobic exercises only.
"the harder you train, the better your genetics become"
I never said I was a beginner. I have began working out 20 years ago and strength training for 10. I was thin and fit my entire adult life, until I gained the last few years. But then I lifted weights to achieve a level of fitness, not to lose weight. I have found doing what I used to hasn't really worked for me. I have been a member of MFP for almost two years and while these forums can be entertaining, I find that some posters do believe in a one size fits all approach, ignoring the many variables at play when it comes to the body. Since I became a MFP member I did 3 rounds of Insanity, while tracking and while some had remarkable results with the program, I did not. My endurance improved, I dropped a few inches, no lbs and my pants were actually tighter in my thighs. A trainer friend of mine gave me a program which did involve heavy lifting for most of the moves and while eating at a calorie deficit, no significant change. I tried routines I used to do when I was thin, spent six days a week in the gym, following up my strength workouts with cardio, and nothing. I even went to the doctor to have my thyroid checked and found everything came back normal. I listened to many of you talking about BMR and TDEE and adjusted my calories accordingly only to gain and lose the same 5lbs over the course of a 1 and a 1/2. So what changed, three months ago I joined Weight Watchers and I started C25K and started to lose weight. I am actually eating more and exercising less and getting more results. Now there have been some weeks when the scale went up or didn't change, in spite exercise and a perfect diet that week. Why this happens, who knows. This is not to say MFP doesn't work or your advice doesn't work. It does work, but everything isn't for everyone. That is in the only point I've tried to make. As a trainer, if you gave everyone the same plan, what do they need you for. There is just one answer right? I fee like some not all, but some MFP members try to push there plan an their goals and their programs on everyone. If there really was only one way, then we would all be fit and there wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar fitness industry.
Your comment about the trainers giving a "special" program to everyone because "what do they need [the trainer] for" otherwise is really insightful...no, seriously it is...the problem is that your conclusion is wrong. I won't connect the dots for you, because figuring this stuff out is an important part of the process, but seriously, give this some thought and see what other potential ramifications there could be given this bit of truth.0 -
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OP: you are a noob. You know what works for beginners, ANYTHING! 5 reps, 10, 20. As long as the last ones are challenging and there is planned progression. If you are doing a million bodyweight squats, you are using the aerobic energy system. This will burn more calories but won't help much for retention of LBM. Lorinna Lynn's photos are the best example IMO of what happens when you do lots of aerobic exercises only.
"the harder you train, the better your genetics become"
I never said I was a beginner. I have began working out 20 years ago and strength training for 10. I was thin and fit my entire adult life, until I gained the last few years. But then I lifted weights to achieve a level of fitness, not to lose weight. I have found doing what I used to hasn't really worked for me. I have been a member of MFP for almost two years and while these forums can be entertaining, I find that some posters do believe in a one size fits all approach, ignoring the many variables at play when it comes to the body. Since I became a MFP member I did 3 rounds of Insanity, while tracking and while some had remarkable results with the program, I did not. My endurance improved, I dropped a few inches, no lbs and my pants were actually tighter in my thighs. A trainer friend of mine gave me a program which did involve heavy lifting for most of the moves and while eating at a calorie deficit, no significant change. I tried routines I used to do when I was thin, spent six days a week in the gym, following up my strength workouts with cardio, and nothing. I even went to the doctor to have my thyroid checked and found everything came back normal. I listened to many of you talking about BMR and TDEE and adjusted my calories accordingly only to gain and lose the same 5lbs over the course of a 1 and a 1/2. So what changed, three months ago I joined Weight Watchers and I started C25K and started to lose weight. I am actually eating more and exercising less and getting more results. Now there have been some weeks when the scale went up or didn't change, in spite exercise and a perfect diet that week. Why this happens, who knows. This is not to say MFP doesn't work or your advice doesn't work. It does work, but everything isn't for everyone. That is in the only point I've tried to make. As a trainer, if you gave everyone the same plan, what do they need you for. There is just one answer right? I fee like some not all, but some MFP members try to push there plan an their goals and their programs on everyone. If there really was only one way, then we would all be fit and there wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar fitness industry.
Your comment about the trainers giving a "special" program to everyone because "what do they need [the trainer] for" otherwise is really insightful...no, seriously it is...the problem is that your conclusion is wrong. I won't connect the dots for you, because figuring this stuff out is an important part of the process, but seriously, give this some thought and see what other potential ramifications there could be given this bit of truth.
I guess we can just agree to disagree. I don't expect a trainer to give a individualized program to everyone, but I also don't expect a trainer to give the same program to everyone. I just don't believe that there is a magic pill or a one size fits all approach when it comes to fitness. I think it is about finding what works best for you and your goals.0 -
I just don't believe that there is a magic pill or a one size fits all approach when it comes to fitness. I think it is about finding what works best for you and your goals.
I believe the same thing. Turns out, though, that the best thing for your goals is the same as the best thing for most people on MFP.
Funny how that works.0 -
I appreciate all the replies, but I think there is a lot of confusion on the my body part got bigger discussion. A body part could get smaller in inches, but bigger in appearance which may not be what someone's goal is. In my case, at my former size there was a 12 inch difference between my waist and hips. At my biggest there was a 16 inch difference. So obviously my thighs were bigger. Now if in my fitness journey I drop an inch in my hips and say 3 inches in my waist, then my thighs would be smaller in inches, but in relation to the rest of my body it would be bigger. That is the concern that I have and I think others as well. Also, while I do appreciate the replies and the comments about calorie deficits. I established early on in this post that I have been eating at a calorie deficit. I posted to ask about exercise tips for a specific body type, since there are so many options when it comes to squats. I asked about reps, frequency, pace, weight. I asked about a specific body type, since there have been countless topics devoted to getting a bigger booty through squats, so what should the frequency, rep, pace etc be for someone who doesn't want a bigger booty. Again, the bigger booty that many say they are getting from squats is in relation to their body, not necessarily bigger in inches. Again, I appreciate the replies and I know everyone here is trying to help, but I am really looking for exercise advice. We all have different goals, so while some may be happy or satisfied with one thing, others may not, so I don't need convincing that I should be happy with my thick thighs and big butt. I do embrace my curves, but I believe I look better when I am more in proportion, so that is what I am pushing for.
The bolded is a definition of body dysmorphia. I would recommend seeing a psychologist as you clearly have some body image issues.0 -
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OP: you are a noob. You know what works for beginners, ANYTHING! 5 reps, 10, 20. As long as the last ones are challenging and there is planned progression. If you are doing a million bodyweight squats, you are using the aerobic energy system. This will burn more calories but won't help much for retention of LBM. Lorinna Lynn's photos are the best example IMO of what happens when you do lots of aerobic exercises only.
"the harder you train, the better your genetics become"
I never said I was a beginner. I have began working out 20 years ago and strength training for 10. I was thin and fit my entire adult life, until I gained the last few years. But then I lifted weights to achieve a level of fitness, not to lose weight. I have found doing what I used to hasn't really worked for me. I have been a member of MFP for almost two years and while these forums can be entertaining, I find that some posters do believe in a one size fits all approach, ignoring the many variables at play when it comes to the body. Since I became a MFP member I did 3 rounds of Insanity, while tracking and while some had remarkable results with the program, I did not. My endurance improved, I dropped a few inches, no lbs and my pants were actually tighter in my thighs. A trainer friend of mine gave me a program which did involve heavy lifting for most of the moves and while eating at a calorie deficit, no significant change. I tried routines I used to do when I was thin, spent six days a week in the gym, following up my strength workouts with cardio, and nothing. I even went to the doctor to have my thyroid checked and found everything came back normal. I listened to many of you talking about BMR and TDEE and adjusted my calories accordingly only to gain and lose the same 5lbs over the course of a 1 and a 1/2. So what changed, three months ago I joined Weight Watchers and I started C25K and started to lose weight. I am actually eating more and exercising less and getting more results. Now there have been some weeks when the scale went up or didn't change, in spite exercise and a perfect diet that week. Why this happens, who knows. This is not to say MFP doesn't work or your advice doesn't work. It does work, but everything isn't for everyone. That is in the only point I've tried to make. As a trainer, if you gave everyone the same plan, what do they need you for. There is just one answer right? I fee like some not all, but some MFP members try to push there plan an their goals and their programs on everyone. If there really was only one way, then we would all be fit and there wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar fitness industry.
You are a beginner until you squat 75kg, bench 50kg and deadlift 100kg.0 -
You know what I learned after paying loads of money to trainers over the years that had me hopping around and doing ridiculous exercises? That I could achieve better results by ignoring them and doing squats, ohp, bench, rows and deadlifts. In half the time too. It really is one size fits all. Once I accepted that and focused on my diet...my awesome went through the roof.0
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You know what I learned after paying loads of money to trainers over the years that had me hopping around and doing ridiculous exercises? That I could achieve better results by ignoring them and doing squats, ohp, bench, rows and deadlifts. In half the time too. It really is one size fits all. Once I accepted that and focused on my diet...my awesome went through the roof.
I used to get the exact same programs. I wasn't a "beginner" but I also wasn't advanced, but i always got the same program they give to people signing up that day.0 -
bump for later. I'm losing my *kitten*.0
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OP: you are a noob. You know what works for beginners, ANYTHING! 5 reps, 10, 20. As long as the last ones are challenging and there is planned progression. If you are doing a million bodyweight squats, you are using the aerobic energy system. This will burn more calories but won't help much for retention of LBM. Lorinna Lynn's photos are the best example IMO of what happens when you do lots of aerobic exercises only.
"the harder you train, the better your genetics become"
I never said I was a beginner. I have began working out 20 years ago and strength training for 10. I was thin and fit my entire adult life, until I gained the last few years. But then I lifted weights to achieve a level of fitness, not to lose weight. I have found doing what I used to hasn't really worked for me. I have been a member of MFP for almost two years and while these forums can be entertaining, I find that some posters do believe in a one size fits all approach, ignoring the many variables at play when it comes to the body. Since I became a MFP member I did 3 rounds of Insanity, while tracking and while some had remarkable results with the program, I did not. My endurance improved, I dropped a few inches, no lbs and my pants were actually tighter in my thighs. A trainer friend of mine gave me a program which did involve heavy lifting for most of the moves and while eating at a calorie deficit, no significant change. I tried routines I used to do when I was thin, spent six days a week in the gym, following up my strength workouts with cardio, and nothing. I even went to the doctor to have my thyroid checked and found everything came back normal. I listened to many of you talking about BMR and TDEE and adjusted my calories accordingly only to gain and lose the same 5lbs over the course of a 1 and a 1/2. So what changed, three months ago I joined Weight Watchers and I started C25K and started to lose weight. I am actually eating more and exercising less and getting more results. Now there have been some weeks when the scale went up or didn't change, in spite exercise and a perfect diet that week. Why this happens, who knows. This is not to say MFP doesn't work or your advice doesn't work. It does work, but everything isn't for everyone. That is in the only point I've tried to make. As a trainer, if you gave everyone the same plan, what do they need you for. There is just one answer right? I fee like some not all, but some MFP members try to push there plan an their goals and their programs on everyone. If there really was only one way, then we would all be fit and there wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar fitness industry.
You are a beginner until you squat 75kg, bench 50kg and deadlift 100kg.
That is assuming I want to squat 165lbs. I may be okay with 45 on the Smith machine. I didn't say I wanted to be a body builder, I am fine tuning a strength program for my fitness goals.0 -
That is assuming I want to squat 165lbs. I may be okay with 45 on the Smith machine. I didn't say I wanted to be a body builder, I am fine tuning a strength program for my fitness goals.
So what DO you want??
You talk over and over in this thread about how important "goals" are but NEVER said what your goals are.
What are your goals?0 -
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OP: you are a noob. You know what works for beginners, ANYTHING! 5 reps, 10, 20. As long as the last ones are challenging and there is planned progression. If you are doing a million bodyweight squats, you are using the aerobic energy system. This will burn more calories but won't help much for retention of LBM. Lorinna Lynn's photos are the best example IMO of what happens when you do lots of aerobic exercises only.
"the harder you train, the better your genetics become"
I never said I was a beginner. I have began working out 20 years ago and strength training for 10. I was thin and fit my entire adult life, until I gained the last few years. But then I lifted weights to achieve a level of fitness, not to lose weight. I have found doing what I used to hasn't really worked for me. I have been a member of MFP for almost two years and while these forums can be entertaining, I find that some posters do believe in a one size fits all approach, ignoring the many variables at play when it comes to the body. Since I became a MFP member I did 3 rounds of Insanity, while tracking and while some had remarkable results with the program, I did not. My endurance improved, I dropped a few inches, no lbs and my pants were actually tighter in my thighs. A trainer friend of mine gave me a program which did involve heavy lifting for most of the moves and while eating at a calorie deficit, no significant change. I tried routines I used to do when I was thin, spent six days a week in the gym, following up my strength workouts with cardio, and nothing. I even went to the doctor to have my thyroid checked and found everything came back normal. I listened to many of you talking about BMR and TDEE and adjusted my calories accordingly only to gain and lose the same 5lbs over the course of a 1 and a 1/2. So what changed, three months ago I joined Weight Watchers and I started C25K and started to lose weight. I am actually eating more and exercising less and getting more results. Now there have been some weeks when the scale went up or didn't change, in spite exercise and a perfect diet that week. Why this happens, who knows. This is not to say MFP doesn't work or your advice doesn't work. It does work, but everything isn't for everyone. That is in the only point I've tried to make. As a trainer, if you gave everyone the same plan, what do they need you for. There is just one answer right? I fee like some not all, but some MFP members try to push there plan an their goals and their programs on everyone. If there really was only one way, then we would all be fit and there wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar fitness industry.
You are a beginner until you squat 75kg, bench 50kg and deadlift 100kg.
That is assuming I want to squat 165lbs. I may be okay with 45 on the Smith machine. I didn't say I wanted to be a body builder, I am fine tuning a strength program for my fitness goals.
I can think of few fitness goals where a goal of barbell squatting 165 pounds will be inferior to using 45 pounds on the Smith machine...
...and by "few", I mean, "none".0 -
you're talking about exercise when what you should be talking about is calorie deficit.
and where are the damn photos?
Davpul your profile is funneh0 -
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OP: you are a noob. You know what works for beginners, ANYTHING! 5 reps, 10, 20. As long as the last ones are challenging and there is planned progression. If you are doing a million bodyweight squats, you are using the aerobic energy system. This will burn more calories but won't help much for retention of LBM. Lorinna Lynn's photos are the best example IMO of what happens when you do lots of aerobic exercises only.
"the harder you train, the better your genetics become"
I never said I was a beginner. I have began working out 20 years ago and strength training for 10. I was thin and fit my entire adult life, until I gained the last few years. But then I lifted weights to achieve a level of fitness, not to lose weight. I have found doing what I used to hasn't really worked for me. I have been a member of MFP for almost two years and while these forums can be entertaining, I find that some posters do believe in a one size fits all approach, ignoring the many variables at play when it comes to the body. Since I became a MFP member I did 3 rounds of Insanity, while tracking and while some had remarkable results with the program, I did not. My endurance improved, I dropped a few inches, no lbs and my pants were actually tighter in my thighs. A trainer friend of mine gave me a program which did involve heavy lifting for most of the moves and while eating at a calorie deficit, no significant change. I tried routines I used to do when I was thin, spent six days a week in the gym, following up my strength workouts with cardio, and nothing. I even went to the doctor to have my thyroid checked and found everything came back normal. I listened to many of you talking about BMR and TDEE and adjusted my calories accordingly only to gain and lose the same 5lbs over the course of a 1 and a 1/2. So what changed, three months ago I joined Weight Watchers and I started C25K and started to lose weight. I am actually eating more and exercising less and getting more results. Now there have been some weeks when the scale went up or didn't change, in spite exercise and a perfect diet that week. Why this happens, who knows. This is not to say MFP doesn't work or your advice doesn't work. It does work, but everything isn't for everyone. That is in the only point I've tried to make. As a trainer, if you gave everyone the same plan, what do they need you for. There is just one answer right? I fee like some not all, but some MFP members try to push there plan an their goals and their programs on everyone. If there really was only one way, then we would all be fit and there wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar fitness industry.
You are a beginner until you squat 75kg, bench 50kg and deadlift 100kg.
That is assuming I want to squat 165lbs. I may be okay with 45 on the Smith machine. I didn't say I wanted to be a body builder, I am fine tuning a strength program for my fitness goals.
There are a ton of people who aren't looking to be body builders or pro-lifters that can lift 100lb + or who aim to lift heavy...goals of 200lb +.0 -
I appreciate all the replies, but I think there is a lot of confusion on the my body part got bigger discussion. A body part could get smaller in inches, but bigger in appearance which may not be what someone's goal is. In my case, at my former size there was a 12 inch difference between my waist and hips. At my biggest there was a 16 inch difference. So obviously my thighs were bigger. Now if in my fitness journey I drop an inch in my hips and say 3 inches in my waist, then my thighs would be smaller in inches, but in relation to the rest of my body it would be bigger. That is the concern that I have and I think others as well. Also, while I do appreciate the replies and the comments about calorie deficits. I established early on in this post that I have been eating at a calorie deficit. I posted to ask about exercise tips for a specific body type, since there are so many options when it comes to squats. I asked about reps, frequency, pace, weight. I asked about a specific body type, since there have been countless topics devoted to getting a bigger booty through squats, so what should the frequency, rep, pace etc be for someone who doesn't want a bigger booty. Again, the bigger booty that many say they are getting from squats is in relation to their body, not necessarily bigger in inches. Again, I appreciate the replies and I know everyone here is trying to help, but I am really looking for exercise advice. We all have different goals, so while some may be happy or satisfied with one thing, others may not, so I don't need convincing that I should be happy with my thick thighs and big butt. I do embrace my curves, but I believe I look better when I am more in proportion, so that is what I am pushing for.
The bolded is a definition of body dysmorphia. I would recommend seeing a psychologist as you clearly have some body image issues.
You should read the rest of the post before you make psychological evaluations. A body part can appear bigger as the muscle becomes higher and/or more developed. That happens, it not someone looking in a mirror seeing what isn't there. Even if I lose inches in my hips, but I lose a great deal more in my waist, my thighs won't be physically bigger than they were, but would be bigger in relation to my body as a whole. Simple math here. You did learn proportions and ratios in school when you getting your expertise in pscyh evals right?0 -
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OP: you are a noob. You know what works for beginners, ANYTHING! 5 reps, 10, 20. As long as the last ones are challenging and there is planned progression. If you are doing a million bodyweight squats, you are using the aerobic energy system. This will burn more calories but won't help much for retention of LBM. Lorinna Lynn's photos are the best example IMO of what happens when you do lots of aerobic exercises only.
"the harder you train, the better your genetics become"
I never said I was a beginner. I have began working out 20 years ago and strength training for 10. I was thin and fit my entire adult life, until I gained the last few years. But then I lifted weights to achieve a level of fitness, not to lose weight. I have found doing what I used to hasn't really worked for me. I have been a member of MFP for almost two years and while these forums can be entertaining, I find that some posters do believe in a one size fits all approach, ignoring the many variables at play when it comes to the body. Since I became a MFP member I did 3 rounds of Insanity, while tracking and while some had remarkable results with the program, I did not. My endurance improved, I dropped a few inches, no lbs and my pants were actually tighter in my thighs. A trainer friend of mine gave me a program which did involve heavy lifting for most of the moves and while eating at a calorie deficit, no significant change. I tried routines I used to do when I was thin, spent six days a week in the gym, following up my strength workouts with cardio, and nothing. I even went to the doctor to have my thyroid checked and found everything came back normal. I listened to many of you talking about BMR and TDEE and adjusted my calories accordingly only to gain and lose the same 5lbs over the course of a 1 and a 1/2. So what changed, three months ago I joined Weight Watchers and I started C25K and started to lose weight. I am actually eating more and exercising less and getting more results. Now there have been some weeks when the scale went up or didn't change, in spite exercise and a perfect diet that week. Why this happens, who knows. This is not to say MFP doesn't work or your advice doesn't work. It does work, but everything isn't for everyone. That is in the only point I've tried to make. As a trainer, if you gave everyone the same plan, what do they need you for. There is just one answer right? I fee like some not all, but some MFP members try to push there plan an their goals and their programs on everyone. If there really was only one way, then we would all be fit and there wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar fitness industry.
You are a beginner until you squat 75kg, bench 50kg and deadlift 100kg.
That is assuming I want to squat 165lbs. I may be okay with 45 on the Smith machine. I didn't say I wanted to be a body builder, I am fine tuning a strength program for my fitness goals.
There are a ton of people who aren't looking to be body builders or pro-lifters that can lift 100lb + or who aim to lift heavy...goals of 200lb +.
And there are a ton of people who don't. That is fine. Why can't one respect the other. You don't have to demonize anyone who chooses a different path than yours. And lifting twice your body weight doesn't mean your fitness journey or goals are any more valid than someone else's journey0 -
On a caloric deficit, no rep/weight/frequency do compound become a problem for a specific body type.
If you made no progress size-wise, you were eating too much, assuming fat loss was your goal, or you were too impatient and did not wait for the glycogen/water increase to be 'overtaken' by the fat loss - or a combination of the two.0 -
I gotta say, it sounds like you have no fitness goals whatsoever.
Everything you're posting is about how you look. Nothing about performance, strength, agility, speed, or endurance. Not one word.
It's all purely about aesthetics. Which would be fine..... if you didn't keep pretending it was all about vague unnamed "fitness goals."0 -
I was blessed with those thick thighs and an ample tush. I've done all that the others in this thread are suggesting to you.
This was me before heavy lifting size 12 156lbs (on a good day):
This is me after heavy lifting size 6 145(as of today):
Dannnnnng!!!0 -
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OP: you are a noob. You know what works for beginners, ANYTHING! 5 reps, 10, 20. As long as the last ones are challenging and there is planned progression. If you are doing a million bodyweight squats, you are using the aerobic energy system. This will burn more calories but won't help much for retention of LBM. Lorinna Lynn's photos are the best example IMO of what happens when you do lots of aerobic exercises only.
"the harder you train, the better your genetics become"
I never said I was a beginner. I have began working out 20 years ago and strength training for 10. I was thin and fit my entire adult life, until I gained the last few years. But then I lifted weights to achieve a level of fitness, not to lose weight. I have found doing what I used to hasn't really worked for me. I have been a member of MFP for almost two years and while these forums can be entertaining, I find that some posters do believe in a one size fits all approach, ignoring the many variables at play when it comes to the body. Since I became a MFP member I did 3 rounds of Insanity, while tracking and while some had remarkable results with the program, I did not. My endurance improved, I dropped a few inches, no lbs and my pants were actually tighter in my thighs. A trainer friend of mine gave me a program which did involve heavy lifting for most of the moves and while eating at a calorie deficit, no significant change. I tried routines I used to do when I was thin, spent six days a week in the gym, following up my strength workouts with cardio, and nothing. I even went to the doctor to have my thyroid checked and found everything came back normal. I listened to many of you talking about BMR and TDEE and adjusted my calories accordingly only to gain and lose the same 5lbs over the course of a 1 and a 1/2. So what changed, three months ago I joined Weight Watchers and I started C25K and started to lose weight. I am actually eating more and exercising less and getting more results. Now there have been some weeks when the scale went up or didn't change, in spite exercise and a perfect diet that week. Why this happens, who knows. This is not to say MFP doesn't work or your advice doesn't work. It does work, but everything isn't for everyone. That is in the only point I've tried to make. As a trainer, if you gave everyone the same plan, what do they need you for. There is just one answer right? I fee like some not all, but some MFP members try to push there plan an their goals and their programs on everyone. If there really was only one way, then we would all be fit and there wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar fitness industry.
You are a beginner until you squat 75kg, bench 50kg and deadlift 100kg.
That is assuming I want to squat 165lbs. I may be okay with 45 on the Smith machine. I didn't say I wanted to be a body builder, I am fine tuning a strength program for my fitness goals.
There are a ton of people who aren't looking to be body builders or pro-lifters that can lift 100lb + or who aim to lift heavy...goals of 200lb +.
And there are a ton of people who don't. That is fine. Why can't one respect the other. You don't have to demonize anyone who chooses a different path than yours. And lifting twice your body weight doesn't mean your fitness journey or goals are any more valid than someone else's journey
I'm not demonizing anything. You're the one insinuating that those who lift heavy or have goals to do so are bodybuilders. was just interjecting to let those who might be lurking know that this isn't the case.0 -
I was blessed with those thick thighs and an ample tush. I've done all that the others in this thread are suggesting to you.
This was me before heavy lifting size 12 156lbs (on a good day):
This is me after heavy lifting size 6 145(as of today):
I think I just became a little less straight....
Amazing results, lady!0 -
I gotta say, it sounds like you have no fitness goals whatsoever.
Everything you're posting is about how you look. Nothing about performance, strength, agility, speed, or endurance. Not one word.
It's all purely about aesthetics. Which would be fine..... if you didn't keep pretending it was all about vague unnamed "fitness goals."
If my fitness goals were purely aesthetic then that is my prerogative and to decide that someone who chooses to tailor their routine around a goal appearance is invalid is insulting.
My goals are not purely about aesthetics. I am currently training for a 10k, which I mentioned in my original post. So clearly endurance and speed matter to me. I also listed weight loss and ideal measurements as goals. And I mentioned a desire to maintain my curves, but not increase the disproportion in my body, since I already have large muscular quads. I also said that I wanted to re-institute a strength program, so getting stronger is obviously a goal.
I asked a very simple question, but for some MFP members it can never be a simple answer. Squats for big booty girls, reps, pace, weight. That was answered five pages ago. But still some MFP members just can't help themselves and are very narrow minded when giving out "Support." The my way is the only way approach is a big turnoff and it exists a great deal on these forums. I have gotten several private messages from people who share my sentiment on the matter. I am all for people finding success in their fitness and weight loss journey. I love to hear ideas of what worked for them. But just because something works for you, there is no guarantee it will work for me and everyone else. Also, I cam be happy for your success in achieving your fitness goals, without sharing the desire to achieve those same goals myself.0 -
I asked a very simple question, but for some MFP members it can never be a simple answer.
I thought your entire complaint was that the answers you were getting were too simple and didn't take your particular fat distribution into account.
So what's your goal? Do you want to be a better 10k runner, or do you want your thighs to be more in proportion to your waist?0 -
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Precision Nutrition Coach (Level 1 certified)
Iron Edge Accredited Kettlebell Instructor (Level 2 certified)
Australian Stength & Conditioning Coach (Level 1 Certified)
OP: you are a noob. You know what works for beginners, ANYTHING! 5 reps, 10, 20. As long as the last ones are challenging and there is planned progression. If you are doing a million bodyweight squats, you are using the aerobic energy system. This will burn more calories but won't help much for retention of LBM. Lorinna Lynn's photos are the best example IMO of what happens when you do lots of aerobic exercises only.
"the harder you train, the better your genetics become"
I never said I was a beginner. I have began working out 20 years ago and strength training for 10. I was thin and fit my entire adult life, until I gained the last few years. But then I lifted weights to achieve a level of fitness, not to lose weight. I have found doing what I used to hasn't really worked for me. I have been a member of MFP for almost two years and while these forums can be entertaining, I find that some posters do believe in a one size fits all approach, ignoring the many variables at play when it comes to the body. Since I became a MFP member I did 3 rounds of Insanity, while tracking and while some had remarkable results with the program, I did not. My endurance improved, I dropped a few inches, no lbs and my pants were actually tighter in my thighs. A trainer friend of mine gave me a program which did involve heavy lifting for most of the moves and while eating at a calorie deficit, no significant change. I tried routines I used to do when I was thin, spent six days a week in the gym, following up my strength workouts with cardio, and nothing. I even went to the doctor to have my thyroid checked and found everything came back normal. I listened to many of you talking about BMR and TDEE and adjusted my calories accordingly only to gain and lose the same 5lbs over the course of a 1 and a 1/2. So what changed, three months ago I joined Weight Watchers and I started C25K and started to lose weight. I am actually eating more and exercising less and getting more results. Now there have been some weeks when the scale went up or didn't change, in spite exercise and a perfect diet that week. Why this happens, who knows. This is not to say MFP doesn't work or your advice doesn't work. It does work, but everything isn't for everyone. That is in the only point I've tried to make. As a trainer, if you gave everyone the same plan, what do they need you for. There is just one answer right? I fee like some not all, but some MFP members try to push there plan an their goals and their programs on everyone. If there really was only one way, then we would all be fit and there wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar fitness industry.
You are a beginner until you squat 75kg, bench 50kg and deadlift 100kg.
That is assuming I want to squat 165lbs. I may be okay with 45 on the Smith machine. I didn't say I wanted to be a body builder, I am fine tuning a strength program for my fitness goals.
There are a ton of people who aren't looking to be body builders or pro-lifters that can lift 100lb + or who aim to lift heavy...goals of 200lb +.
And there are a ton of people who don't. That is fine. Why can't one respect the other. You don't have to demonize anyone who chooses a different path than yours. And lifting twice your body weight doesn't mean your fitness journey or goals are any more valid than someone else's journey
I'm not demonizing anything. You're the one insinuating that those who lift heavy or have goals to do so are bodybuilders. was just interjecting to let those who might be lurking know that this isn't the case.
Is that any better than insinuating that someone who doesn't lift 165lbs is a novice. and that comment does a lot to dismiss the work of those who may lift 100 or 75 or 50. Hell shouldn't we all work to our goals and our best. Why does there have to be just one best. It goes both ways. You want your choices respected, respect those who make different ones.
Also I accepted the advice regarding squats many pages ago. My only complaint is those who say there is only one way.0 -
Is that any better than insinuating that someone who doesn't lift 165lbs is a novice. and that comment does a lot to dismiss the work of those who may lift 100 or 75 or 50. Hell shouldn't we all work to our goals and our best. Why does there have to be just one best. It goes both ways. You want your choices respected, respect those who make different ones.
What on earth are you talking about? He said you were a novice lifter. That's true. Who said anything about not working to our goals and our best? Who said anything about "one best"?
Your posts don't appear to have any relation to the posts you're replying to. Your goals are a jumbled mess.
I think that you seriously need to sit down and think about what you want, and then listen to the advice that the super knowledgeable and smart people on this board give you about how to achieve what you want.
But the first step is deciding what you want. It's OK for your primary goal to be aesthetic. However, in order to achieve that you're going to have to start being honest about what you want.0 -
Ladies, ladies, ladies, seriously? No offense but coming from a woman who has smaller legs and holds weight in her stomach - you are BLESSED! Appreciate your firm, no cellulite legs. They will get smaller as you lose weight if you are really worried, Just like my stomach is getting smaller - but is NOT firm (jealous). Do the exercises you want. Toning is good. Running is good. Love your form and be healthy (Did I mention I was jealous??).0
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