Squats and Big Booties
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I'd say keep the weight low, and the reps high to tone up, but not build up a lot of mass. But really, it sounds like you just hold some fat in your "problem" areas, so the key would be to get the fat down.
I gotta call this out. It is extremely, extremely difficult to build muscle mass, even for men, but ESPECIALLY for women. That's why ever pound of muscle mass added is celebrated - you have to eat above maintenance, and work out with heavy lift like ALL the damn time to do it. There are whole groups and threads devoted to the difficulties of "building muscle mass" - that is, the kind you can visibly see by increased thigh/booty size. If you are eating at a deficit to lose weight, it is almost exactly impossible for you to increase the circumference of your thighs, no matter how strenuous your squat regimen.
High reps and low weights are going to do nothing for the appearance of your body. They will work out the "endurance" muscle fibers, but to slim the size of your thighs and tighten up your booty, it is critical to deep deep squats, and to begin added heavier weights. A good set should wear you out after 8 - 12 repetitions of the same motion. This will NOT increase your thigh size - exactly the opposite.
I've been doing heavier weight lifting for about 2 months now, in addition to eating at a 20% deficit (to find out what that is for you, visit scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator), and I've lost 10 inches on my stomach, 1 inch on my thighs, .5 inches on my arms, and 1.5 inches from my booty.0 -
People are still arguing about this?
OP, eat at a calorie deficit and do cardio to lose fat.
Strength train to build muscle that will honor the shape that you already have.
You can strength train in many ways. Lifting is popular. If you like it, do it. I have a dancer's background. I like dancing. Barre workouts (which I guess makes me 'lift' my body weight slowly and in a controlled way the way other's lift weight on a machine) work great for me. I also like Denise Austin Legs & Buns on youtube. You may also like circuits that mix cardio and strength training like Jillian Michael's 30 Day Shred, Insanity or something.
Either way, I don't think you're going to get the results you want if you don't lose the fat that's over your muscle. If you strictly lift weights you may appear larger than what you're trying to be.0 -
I don't see the reason for all the hostility. If you don't like it, don't do it. Why bully people to agree with you? respectfully state your opinion and then allow others to respectfully state theirs. It's okay to disagree, and you can't moderate to what degree others are allowed to disagree.
Where on earth are you getting that idea? Last I checked there were no appearance lengthening exercises. Any exercise will do that over time with a calorie deficit.
Yes, but there are exercises that will make your LEGS appear longer because you're legs are shaped, thinner and toned. One of the routines that can do that is barre workouts.Ummm..... there are no exercises that are going to make your muscles longer. Or leaner. Just sayin
That's not true. Yes, you have to be low-weight to start, but there are some regimes that can make you look bigger. If that weren't the case, ballet students, who are selected for their long, slender, proportional builds, would be allowed to do any exercise they wanted outside of class. But they are usually specifically forbidden to do certain activities that will build up body parts and make their physical appearance less appealing for dance.
I've also read many times that models and actresses who are concerned about gaining any inches on their rears and thighs don't use weights. These are people whose livelihoods depend on what they look like. They think it matters.
Go away. You know nothing about resistance training. Every comment from you in every thread is ignorant and completely devoid of science, logic and reason. There are people who have experience and training in this thing that are trying to help people. Among those people, there is still disagreement on what works best. But at least when those people debate, they are speaking from a foundation of knowledge. I'd say to go spout off this nonsense on a ballet site but I doubt if that discipline is still applying logic from the 1800s to their craft.0 -
The professional ballet dancers that I know don't eat enough to build a lot of muscle. One man, after retiring, bulked up and found that suddenly, the persistent injuries that caused him to retire, were healing.0
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I don't see the reason for all the hostility. If you don't like it, don't do it. Why bully people to agree with you? respectfully state your opinion and then allow others to respectfully state theirs. It's okay to disagree, and you can't moderate to what degree others are allowed to disagree.
Where on earth are you getting that idea? Last I checked there were no appearance lengthening exercises. Any exercise will do that over time with a calorie deficit.
Yes, but there are exercises that will make your LEGS appear longer because you're legs are shaped, thinner and toned. One of the routines that can do that is barre workouts.Ummm..... there are no exercises that are going to make your muscles longer. Or leaner. Just sayin
That's not true. Yes, you have to be low-weight to start, but there are some regimes that can make you look bigger. If that weren't the case, ballet students, who are selected for their long, slender, proportional builds, would be allowed to do any exercise they wanted outside of class. But they are usually specifically forbidden to do certain activities that will build up body parts and make their physical appearance less appealing for dance.
I've also read many times that models and actresses who are concerned about gaining any inches on their rears and thighs don't use weights. These are people whose livelihoods depend on what they look like. They think it matters.
Go away. You know nothing about resistance training. Every comment from you in every thread is ignorant and completely devoid of science, logic and reason. There are people who have experience and training in this thing that are trying to help people. Among those people, there is still disagreement on what works best. But at least when those people debate, they are speaking from a foundation of knowledge. I'd say to go spout off this nonsense on a ballet site but I doubt if that discipline is still applying logic from the 1800s to their craft.
He's not bullying someone because she doesn't agree.
He's calling out her consistently nonsensical and factually incorrect posts.0 -
unfortunately there isn't a way to make your legs appear leaner, when I was in High school I lifted, and doing the same kind of lifting as allll the other girls, my legs just naturally became larger. This is my genetics, I hated it in high school, mainly because I wanted the legs all the other girls got from lifting, I wanted that petite stature. The girls who say "you can't get big muscles, look at mine!" are the normal girl who builds muscle like almost every other girl. No, I'm not saying we get bulky before everyone jumps down my throat about it, but I am saying our legs naturally get thicker. It's our natural body make up, and the best we can do is learn to love what we naturally have...I'm going to have to do that once I lose weight because the idea of being "thick" in the legs and buttt still doesn't thrill me, but after being over weight I think I'll have a much easier time accepting what my body turns into. The only thing you can do is make sure you don't eat over your maintenance (at a deficit if you still have weight to lose), while continuing to lift (btw the lifting heavy part of this forum is the part you should be listening to, low weight high reps are a waste of time) why lift? because the thickness from muscle out beats the thickness from fat any day. And with the way our legs and butt are that muscle is still going to be there but with just extra layer that will make it worse
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The professional ballet dancers that I know don't eat enough to build a lot of muscle. One man, after retiring, bulked up and found that suddenly, the persistent injuries that caused him to retire, were healing.
Eh partially true. Being heavy in ballet isn't helpful. Have you ever stood on your tip toes? many people can't do it for longer than a few seconds. We're forced to do it for long period of time. It's easier to be lighter than heavier to put less pressure on the toes and to leap higher. Idk if your friend wasn't healing because of his diet or the exercise needed for ballet. The male dancers I know are ripped beyond belief! Omg! But they do lifts and such so that muscle is necessary. Some male dancers don't do that so they may not have the same muscle. I know in my case, the pressure of being thin in ballet is high and CAN affect diet and lifestyle. But we're not talking about being professionals. We're talking about just a basic level of barre routines. (ballet squats, leg lifts, etc...much like what's done by weight lifters. It's just done a little differently) You learn lots of muscle control (lifting the leg without arching the back. You'd be surprised how different your muscles feel when you point the toe or flex the foot). But in terms of a way to get in a good leg workout, I love it. But I'm biased because I did ballet then switched to contemporary (more expessive).0 -
I don't see the reason for all the hostility. If you don't like it, don't do it. Why bully people to agree with you? respectfully state your opinion and then allow others to respectfully state theirs. It's okay to disagree, and you can't moderate to what degree others are allowed to disagree.
Where on earth are you getting that idea? Last I checked there were no appearance lengthening exercises. Any exercise will do that over time with a calorie deficit.
Yes, but there are exercises that will make your LEGS appear longer because you're legs are shaped, thinner and toned. One of the routines that can do that is barre workouts.Ummm..... there are no exercises that are going to make your muscles longer. Or leaner. Just sayin
That's not true. Yes, you have to be low-weight to start, but there are some regimes that can make you look bigger. If that weren't the case, ballet students, who are selected for their long, slender, proportional builds, would be allowed to do any exercise they wanted outside of class. But they are usually specifically forbidden to do certain activities that will build up body parts and make their physical appearance less appealing for dance.
I've also read many times that models and actresses who are concerned about gaining any inches on their rears and thighs don't use weights. These are people whose livelihoods depend on what they look like. They think it matters.
Go away. You know nothing about resistance training. Every comment from you in every thread is ignorant and completely devoid of science, logic and reason. There are people who have experience and training in this thing that are trying to help people. Among those people, there is still disagreement on what works best. But at least when those people debate, they are speaking from a foundation of knowledge. I'd say to go spout off this nonsense on a ballet site but I doubt if that discipline is still applying logic from the 1800s to their craft.
He's not bullying someone because she doesn't agree.
He's calling out her consistently nonsensical and factually incorrect posts.
Details aside, much of the overall tone in here is one of hectoring, dogmatic insistence that heavy lifting is the only way to achieve a nice looking body. Is it possible for people to stop yelling, even if they can't imagine anyone else having goals, needs and limitations that differ from their own?0 -
unfortunately there isn't a way to make your legs appear leaner...
Except for, you know, eating at a calorie deficit that results in your legs actually being leaner. That will make them appear leaner. (Lifting heavy weights may help (and most certainly has multiple other benefits).)0 -
I don't see the reason for all the hostility. If you don't like it, don't do it. Why bully people to agree with you? respectfully state your opinion and then allow others to respectfully state theirs. It's okay to disagree, and you can't moderate to what degree others are allowed to disagree.
Where on earth are you getting that idea? Last I checked there were no appearance lengthening exercises. Any exercise will do that over time with a calorie deficit.
Yes, but there are exercises that will make your LEGS appear longer because you're legs are shaped, thinner and toned. One of the routines that can do that is barre workouts.Ummm..... there are no exercises that are going to make your muscles longer. Or leaner. Just sayin
That's not true. Yes, you have to be low-weight to start, but there are some regimes that can make you look bigger. If that weren't the case, ballet students, who are selected for their long, slender, proportional builds, would be allowed to do any exercise they wanted outside of class. But they are usually specifically forbidden to do certain activities that will build up body parts and make their physical appearance less appealing for dance.
I've also read many times that models and actresses who are concerned about gaining any inches on their rears and thighs don't use weights. These are people whose livelihoods depend on what they look like. They think it matters.
Go away. You know nothing about resistance training. Every comment from you in every thread is ignorant and completely devoid of science, logic and reason. There are people who have experience and training in this thing that are trying to help people. Among those people, there is still disagreement on what works best. But at least when those people debate, they are speaking from a foundation of knowledge. I'd say to go spout off this nonsense on a ballet site but I doubt if that discipline is still applying logic from the 1800s to their craft.
He's not bullying someone because she doesn't agree.
He's calling out her consistently nonsensical and factually incorrect posts.
What was wrong with the post?
You have to be a low weight to see the results of strength training? That's true. You can have a gorge body but if there's fat on top of it, you won't be able to see it.
Ballet students are more popular when their thinner? True! When I hit puberty, I constantly was chastized for my boobs and butt. Teacher thought I was sticking it out and constantly fixed my posture, but it was just puberty. Sa la vie.
Dancers forbidden to build upperbody? Hell yes. Very true. I had to take pictures of my body and my teacher told me every place I needed to lose weight.
It seems that he and you just want to disagree with anything that's different from your beliefs. I'm not saying that you're wrong. Some things I agree with, some I don't. But the point is we're all adults. Let the OP get all of the information and decide for herself what she wants to do. If she doesn't lose weight, that's on her. If she does, that's on her too. It shouldn't be so much argument over something so trivial. If you just want to prove that you're right, fine, you're right. Happy?0 -
I don't see the reason for all the hostility. If you don't like it, don't do it. Why bully people to agree with you? respectfully state your opinion and then allow others to respectfully state theirs. It's okay to disagree, and you can't moderate to what degree others are allowed to disagree.
Where on earth are you getting that idea? Last I checked there were no appearance lengthening exercises. Any exercise will do that over time with a calorie deficit.
Yes, but there are exercises that will make your LEGS appear longer because you're legs are shaped, thinner and toned. One of the routines that can do that is barre workouts.Ummm..... there are no exercises that are going to make your muscles longer. Or leaner. Just sayin
That's not true. Yes, you have to be low-weight to start, but there are some regimes that can make you look bigger. If that weren't the case, ballet students, who are selected for their long, slender, proportional builds, would be allowed to do any exercise they wanted outside of class. But they are usually specifically forbidden to do certain activities that will build up body parts and make their physical appearance less appealing for dance.
I've also read many times that models and actresses who are concerned about gaining any inches on their rears and thighs don't use weights. These are people whose livelihoods depend on what they look like. They think it matters.
Go away. You know nothing about resistance training. Every comment from you in every thread is ignorant and completely devoid of science, logic and reason. There are people who have experience and training in this thing that are trying to help people. Among those people, there is still disagreement on what works best. But at least when those people debate, they are speaking from a foundation of knowledge. I'd say to go spout off this nonsense on a ballet site but I doubt if that discipline is still applying logic from the 1800s to their craft.
He's not bullying someone because she doesn't agree.
He's calling out her consistently nonsensical and factually incorrect posts.
What was wrong with the post?
You have to be a low weight to see the results of strength training? That's true. You can have a gorge body but if there's fat on top of it, you won't be able to see it.
Ballet students are more popular when their thinner? True! When I hit puberty, I constantly was chastized for my boobs and butt. Teacher thought I was sticking it out and constantly fixed my posture, but it was just puberty. Sa la vie.
Dancers forbidden to build upperbody? Hell yes. Very true. I had to take pictures of my body and my teacher told me every place I needed to lose weight.
It seems that he and you just want to disagree with anything that's different from your beliefs. I'm not saying that you're wrong. Some things I agree with, some I don't. But the point is we're all adults. Let the OP get all of the information and decide for herself what she wants to do. If she doesn't lose weight, that's on her. If she does, that's on her too. It shouldn't be so much argument over something so trivial. If you just want to prove that you're right, fine, you're right. Happy?
Why do you insist on arguing over something so trivial?0 -
A BUTT thread and still no big bootie photos? :sick:0
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I don't see the reason for all the hostility. If you don't like it, don't do it. Why bully people to agree with you? respectfully state your opinion and then allow others to respectfully state theirs. It's okay to disagree, and you can't moderate to what degree others are allowed to disagree.
Where on earth are you getting that idea? Last I checked there were no appearance lengthening exercises. Any exercise will do that over time with a calorie deficit.
Yes, but there are exercises that will make your LEGS appear longer because you're legs are shaped, thinner and toned. One of the routines that can do that is barre workouts.Ummm..... there are no exercises that are going to make your muscles longer. Or leaner. Just sayin
That's not true. Yes, you have to be low-weight to start, but there are some regimes that can make you look bigger. If that weren't the case, ballet students, who are selected for their long, slender, proportional builds, would be allowed to do any exercise they wanted outside of class. But they are usually specifically forbidden to do certain activities that will build up body parts and make their physical appearance less appealing for dance.
I've also read many times that models and actresses who are concerned about gaining any inches on their rears and thighs don't use weights. These are people whose livelihoods depend on what they look like. They think it matters.
Go away. You know nothing about resistance training. Every comment from you in every thread is ignorant and completely devoid of science, logic and reason. There are people who have experience and training in this thing that are trying to help people. Among those people, there is still disagreement on what works best. But at least when those people debate, they are speaking from a foundation of knowledge. I'd say to go spout off this nonsense on a ballet site but I doubt if that discipline is still applying logic from the 1800s to their craft.
He's not bullying someone because she doesn't agree.
He's calling out her consistently nonsensical and factually incorrect posts.
What was wrong with the post?
You have to be a low weight to see the results of strength training? That's true. You can have a gorge body but if there's fat on top of it, you won't be able to see it.
Ballet students are more popular when their thinner? True! When I hit puberty, I constantly was chastized for my boobs and butt. Teacher thought I was sticking it out and constantly fixed my posture, but it was just puberty. Sa la vie.
Dancers forbidden to build upperbody? Hell yes. Very true. I had to take pictures of my body and my teacher told me every place I needed to lose weight.
It seems that he and you just want to disagree with anything that's different from your beliefs. I'm not saying that you're wrong. Some things I agree with, some I don't. But the point is we're all adults. Let the OP get all of the information and decide for herself what she wants to do. If she doesn't lose weight, that's on her. If she does, that's on her too. It shouldn't be so much argument over something so trivial. If you just want to prove that you're right, fine, you're right. Happy?
Why do you insist on arguing over something so trivial?
I'm not good in bully situations
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I don't see the reason for all the hostility. If you don't like it, don't do it. Why bully people to agree with you? respectfully state your opinion and then allow others to respectfully state theirs. It's okay to disagree, and you can't moderate to what degree others are allowed to disagree.
Where on earth are you getting that idea? Last I checked there were no appearance lengthening exercises. Any exercise will do that over time with a calorie deficit.
Yes, but there are exercises that will make your LEGS appear longer because you're legs are shaped, thinner and toned. One of the routines that can do that is barre workouts.Ummm..... there are no exercises that are going to make your muscles longer. Or leaner. Just sayin
That's not true. Yes, you have to be low-weight to start, but there are some regimes that can make you look bigger. If that weren't the case, ballet students, who are selected for their long, slender, proportional builds, would be allowed to do any exercise they wanted outside of class. But they are usually specifically forbidden to do certain activities that will build up body parts and make their physical appearance less appealing for dance.
I've also read many times that models and actresses who are concerned about gaining any inches on their rears and thighs don't use weights. These are people whose livelihoods depend on what they look like. They think it matters.
Go away. You know nothing about resistance training. Every comment from you in every thread is ignorant and completely devoid of science, logic and reason. There are people who have experience and training in this thing that are trying to help people. Among those people, there is still disagreement on what works best. But at least when those people debate, they are speaking from a foundation of knowledge. I'd say to go spout off this nonsense on a ballet site but I doubt if that discipline is still applying logic from the 1800s to their craft.
He's not bullying someone because she doesn't agree.
He's calling out her consistently nonsensical and factually incorrect posts.
What was wrong with the post?
You have to be a low weight to see the results of strength training? That's true. You can have a gorge body but if there's fat on top of it, you won't be able to see it.
Ballet students are more popular when their thinner? True! When I hit puberty, I constantly was chastized for my boobs and butt. Teacher thought I was sticking it out and constantly fixed my posture, but it was just puberty. Sa la vie.
Dancers forbidden to build upperbody? Hell yes. Very true. I had to take pictures of my body and my teacher told me every place I needed to lose weight.
It seems that he and you just want to disagree with anything that's different from your beliefs. I'm not saying that you're wrong. Some things I agree with, some I don't. But the point is we're all adults. Let the OP get all of the information and decide for herself what she wants to do. If she doesn't lose weight, that's on her. If she does, that's on her too. It shouldn't be so much argument over something so trivial. If you just want to prove that you're right, fine, you're right. Happy?
Why do you insist on arguing over something so trivial?
I'm not good in bully situations
Perhaps that's because you misunderstand the term and it's application to an open exchange of ideas. To state that this thread contains "bullying" is, in my opinion, an insult to those who are truly victims of it.0 -
I won't argue semantics. What is bullying to one may not be bullying to another. That's totally okay. However, when someone tells another person to go away because they don't like what that person is saying (especially on a public forum for a question that he didn't even post), I call that bullying. If you don't, that's absolutely fine
I don't see the reason for all the hostility. If you don't like it, don't do it. Why bully people to agree with you? respectfully state your opinion and then allow others to respectfully state theirs. It's okay to disagree, and you can't moderate to what degree others are allowed to disagree.
Where on earth are you getting that idea? Last I checked there were no appearance lengthening exercises. Any exercise will do that over time with a calorie deficit.
Yes, but there are exercises that will make your LEGS appear longer because you're legs are shaped, thinner and toned. One of the routines that can do that is barre workouts.Ummm..... there are no exercises that are going to make your muscles longer. Or leaner. Just sayin
That's not true. Yes, you have to be low-weight to start, but there are some regimes that can make you look bigger. If that weren't the case, ballet students, who are selected for their long, slender, proportional builds, would be allowed to do any exercise they wanted outside of class. But they are usually specifically forbidden to do certain activities that will build up body parts and make their physical appearance less appealing for dance.
I've also read many times that models and actresses who are concerned about gaining any inches on their rears and thighs don't use weights. These are people whose livelihoods depend on what they look like. They think it matters.
Go away. You know nothing about resistance training. Every comment from you in every thread is ignorant and completely devoid of science, logic and reason. There are people who have experience and training in this thing that are trying to help people. Among those people, there is still disagreement on what works best. But at least when those people debate, they are speaking from a foundation of knowledge. I'd say to go spout off this nonsense on a ballet site but I doubt if that discipline is still applying logic from the 1800s to their craft.
He's not bullying someone because she doesn't agree.
He's calling out her consistently nonsensical and factually incorrect posts.
What was wrong with the post?
You have to be a low weight to see the results of strength training? That's true. You can have a gorge body but if there's fat on top of it, you won't be able to see it.
Ballet students are more popular when their thinner? True! When I hit puberty, I constantly was chastized for my boobs and butt. Teacher thought I was sticking it out and constantly fixed my posture, but it was just puberty. Sa la vie.
Dancers forbidden to build upperbody? Hell yes. Very true. I had to take pictures of my body and my teacher told me every place I needed to lose weight.
It seems that he and you just want to disagree with anything that's different from your beliefs. I'm not saying that you're wrong. Some things I agree with, some I don't. But the point is we're all adults. Let the OP get all of the information and decide for herself what she wants to do. If she doesn't lose weight, that's on her. If she does, that's on her too. It shouldn't be so much argument over something so trivial. If you just want to prove that you're right, fine, you're right. Happy?
Why do you insist on arguing over something so trivial?
I'm not good in bully situations
Perhaps that's because you misunderstand the term and it's application to an open exchange of ideas. To state that this thread contains "bullying" is, in my opinion, an insult to those who are truly victims of it.
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I do 150 squats, 40 reps on each leg of 1 leg squats, 30 lunges each leg all with 17lb kettle bell, I do 60mins+ a day walking and or 30-60 on exercise bike as cardio and the odd class at the gym and i have lost a shed load of inches from my thighs and *kitten* since doing the daily leg routine. I also added 150 russian twists with kettle bell and watched my fat tum/ lovehandles dissapear. No bulk tho just smaller with a bit of muscle def.0
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unfortunately there isn't a way to make your legs appear leaner...
Except for, you know, eating at a calorie deficit that results in your legs actually being leaner. That will make them appear leaner. (Lifting heavy weights may help (and most certainly has multiple other benefits).)
did you read my entire post? or did you get distracted after the first line?0 -
Hmm. People seem to be getting a little upset. I'll help!
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unfortunately there isn't a way to make your legs appear leaner...
Except for, you know, eating at a calorie deficit that results in your legs actually being leaner. That will make them appear leaner. (Lifting heavy weights may help (and most certainly has multiple other benefits).)
did you read my entire post? or did you get distracted after the first line?
Admittedly, yeah, that's exactly what I did.
I would blame it on my phone, but it's more likely my ADD...
...or the lack of paragraphs...but no, probably still my ADD.0 -
Um, davpul is a big built guy. I'm a slim dancer girl. I want to be me and I assume he wants to be him. Notice how we're doing the same thing and getting the results we want...I know it felt good to get that off your chest, but it makes no sense. We all might as well pick three exercises and do them all exactly the same, for the exact same reps and the exact same weight regardless of our body type, body fat, weight, height or gender. There is no reason for an individualized program, because every exercise has the same effect on everyone. We all get the same results doing the same things. We know that is not true. Not only are we all different body wise, but we all have different goals. Why is that hard to accept. And if there was one magic answer for us all, then we would all do the same exact routine, because it works for everyone right. If there was no special routine for a specific look then men shooting for big arms and a developed chest would never do push ups, because that doesn't help, bicep curls, who needs those. Chest presses, it doesn't matter one way or the other. Seriously. this was a question about one exercise in a fitness routine and which version, frequency, rep, pace , weight of the exercise would be most beneficial to my goals. You are the same person that said bodyweight squats are a waste of time. I'm sure there are people who would very much disagree with you. We don't all have to do the same things or want to the same things, but can we be respectful of that fact.
honestly, it's not advice for you anymore. you clearly don't wish to listen are are just waiting to hear what you wish to hear. i posted that for the people that are reading this thread and hoping to gain knowledge that will help them achieve their goals. they rarely post, but they read a lot and are willing to learn. i have hope for them and that's the only reason i bother posting most of the time. usually for the lurkers, rarely for the OP that won't listen.
I was given advice by you and several others to do low rep/heavy weight squats, which I gladly accepted, what I don't accept is the idea that there is a one size fits all answer to fitness. Perhaps you tell everyone to do low rep/heavy weight squats regardless of goals or body type, but there are others who may recommend body weight squats with high reps, or others who may say do a combination of the two or perhaps even forgo squats altogether. If there is only one answer, one method as you suggest then who is correct. What purpose would there be for personal trainers training people personally. How about the same rep/weight/pace of squats for women who want a high big butt as the women who don't.
Just as you want to help those people who read posts, I too want them to understand that there are people on MFP that will give the same advice to everyone, regardless of their body type, fitness level, gender, age or goals, while there are others who will take those factors in consideration when offering advice and recognize that we are individuals with individual goals.
The point of personal trainers is to make money. I know several friends (and 2 x's) who are personal trainers. None of them are smart or know what they are doing.
If you just want weight to come off and you don't care if it's fat or muscle then do high rep. If you want to lose mostly fat then use heavier weight. That's the difference. Both will improve your butt. The higher weight people have firmer butts over time because they don't have a large layer of fat anymore. The cardio people (like I was) will have a squishier butt. I had a squishier butt doing high rep stuff then I did doing high weight stuff at the same body weight. That's how it works.
But hey I think many people and pages have already tried to tell you that, so hear what you want but just in case someone doesn't get it I'll throw that out there.0 -
I don't see the reason for all the hostility. If you don't like it, don't do it. Why bully people to agree with you? respectfully state your opinion and then allow others to respectfully state theirs. It's okay to disagree, and you can't moderate to what degree others are allowed to disagree.
that's not me being hostile. not even close. and i have no control over your eyes so if you want to see bullying i can't stop you. i was calm, rationale, and every word i spoke was the truth. i'm all for disagreeing. heated debate is a good way for people to open their minds to other viewpoints and test their own conclusions. however, if someone wants to spout lie after lie after lie and can never back up what they say with science, experience, facts, or even pictures of themselves they should just move one because they aren't helping anyone.
i'm not moderating what anyone is saying because i can't control them. she is free to keep posting as long as she likes. but i'm free to call her on her BS and i really don't care if thinks i'm not polite enough when i do it.0 -
A BUTT thread and still no big bootie photos? :sick:
lead by example.
please. pretty please?0 -
Gorgeous!I was blessed with those thick thighs and an ample tush. I've done all that the others in this thread are suggesting to you.
This was me before heavy lifting size 12 156lbs (on a good day):
This is me after heavy lifting size 6 145(as of today):
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You said you didn't lose weight....If you didn't lose weight, you weren't on a calorie deficit, which is why your thighs didn't shrink.Nutritional Consultant/Personal Trainer
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OP: you are a noob. You know what works for beginners, ANYTHING! 5 reps, 10, 20. As long as the last ones are challenging and there is planned progression. If you are doing a million bodyweight squats, you are using the aerobic energy system. This will burn more calories but won't help much for retention of LBM. Lorinna Lynn's photos are the best example IMO of what happens when you do lots of aerobic exercises only.
"the harder you train, the better your genetics become"
I never said I was a beginner. I have began working out 20 years ago and strength training for 10. I was thin and fit my entire adult life, until I gained the last few years. But then I lifted weights to achieve a level of fitness, not to lose weight. I have found doing what I used to hasn't really worked for me. I have been a member of MFP for almost two years and while these forums can be entertaining, I find that some posters do believe in a one size fits all approach, ignoring the many variables at play when it comes to the body. Since I became a MFP member I did 3 rounds of Insanity, while tracking and while some had remarkable results with the program, I did not. My endurance improved, I dropped a few inches, no lbs and my pants were actually tighter in my thighs. A trainer friend of mine gave me a program which did involve heavy lifting for most of the moves and while eating at a calorie deficit, no significant change. I tried routines I used to do when I was thin, spent six days a week in the gym, following up my strength workouts with cardio, and nothing. I even went to the doctor to have my thyroid checked and found everything came back normal. I listened to many of you talking about BMR and TDEE and adjusted my calories accordingly only to gain and lose the same 5lbs over the course of a 1 and a 1/2. So what changed, three months ago I joined Weight Watchers and I started C25K and started to lose weight. I am actually eating more and exercising less and getting more results. Now there have been some weeks when the scale went up or didn't change, in spite exercise and a perfect diet that week. Why this happens, who knows. This is not to say MFP doesn't work or your advice doesn't work. It does work, but everything isn't for everyone. That is in the only point I've tried to make. As a trainer, if you gave everyone the same plan, what do they need you for. There is just one answer right? I fee like some not all, but some MFP members try to push there plan an their goals and their programs on everyone. If there really was only one way, then we would all be fit and there wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar fitness industry.
Your goals were to have thinner thighs, everyone gave you a plan that would give you thinner thighs. You were informed that heavy weight low reps would not give you bigger thighs. They're all trying to help you and you just keep on ignoring everyone. If you have trouble getting a calorie deficit, do cardio so you'll lose weight. If you're eating at a surplus, you'll get bigger. If you don't have a problem getting a deficit, heavy lifting will get your legs thinner and firmer, like everyone else was saying. You asked for advice, you got it, you got mad at it. Do what you like.0 -
AMEN!You know what I learned after paying loads of money to trainers over the years that had me hopping around and doing ridiculous exercises? That I could achieve better results by ignoring them and doing squats, ohp, bench, rows and deadlifts. In half the time too. It really is one size fits all. Once I accepted that and focused on my diet...my awesome went through the roof.0 -
I know a lot of other girls that can lift pretty heavy who look thinner then I do...to be a body builder they'd have to bulk. Once again, strength gain =/= mass gain. You've made it obvious you don't know how strength training works but it would be nice if you could get it out of your mind that strong people have huge-o muscles.Nutritional Consultant/Personal Trainer
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OP: you are a noob. You know what works for beginners, ANYTHING! 5 reps, 10, 20. As long as the last ones are challenging and there is planned progression. If you are doing a million bodyweight squats, you are using the aerobic energy system. This will burn more calories but won't help much for retention of LBM. Lorinna Lynn's photos are the best example IMO of what happens when you do lots of aerobic exercises only.
"the harder you train, the better your genetics become"
I never said I was a beginner. I have began working out 20 years ago and strength training for 10. I was thin and fit my entire adult life, until I gained the last few years. But then I lifted weights to achieve a level of fitness, not to lose weight. I have found doing what I used to hasn't really worked for me. I have been a member of MFP for almost two years and while these forums can be entertaining, I find that some posters do believe in a one size fits all approach, ignoring the many variables at play when it comes to the body. Since I became a MFP member I did 3 rounds of Insanity, while tracking and while some had remarkable results with the program, I did not. My endurance improved, I dropped a few inches, no lbs and my pants were actually tighter in my thighs. A trainer friend of mine gave me a program which did involve heavy lifting for most of the moves and while eating at a calorie deficit, no significant change. I tried routines I used to do when I was thin, spent six days a week in the gym, following up my strength workouts with cardio, and nothing. I even went to the doctor to have my thyroid checked and found everything came back normal. I listened to many of you talking about BMR and TDEE and adjusted my calories accordingly only to gain and lose the same 5lbs over the course of a 1 and a 1/2. So what changed, three months ago I joined Weight Watchers and I started C25K and started to lose weight. I am actually eating more and exercising less and getting more results. Now there have been some weeks when the scale went up or didn't change, in spite exercise and a perfect diet that week. Why this happens, who knows. This is not to say MFP doesn't work or your advice doesn't work. It does work, but everything isn't for everyone. That is in the only point I've tried to make. As a trainer, if you gave everyone the same plan, what do they need you for. There is just one answer right? I fee like some not all, but some MFP members try to push there plan an their goals and their programs on everyone. If there really was only one way, then we would all be fit and there wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar fitness industry.
You are a beginner until you squat 75kg, bench 50kg and deadlift 100kg.
That is assuming I want to squat 165lbs. I may be okay with 45 on the Smith machine. I didn't say I wanted to be a body builder, I am fine tuning a strength program for my fitness goals.0 -
hey, I'm flattered really. My heads flying over being a body building beast lol.Nutritional Consultant/Personal Trainer
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Iron Edge Accredited Kettlebell Instructor (Level 2 certified)
Australian Stength & Conditioning Coach (Level 1 Certified)
OP: you are a noob. You know what works for beginners, ANYTHING! 5 reps, 10, 20. As long as the last ones are challenging and there is planned progression. If you are doing a million bodyweight squats, you are using the aerobic energy system. This will burn more calories but won't help much for retention of LBM. Lorinna Lynn's photos are the best example IMO of what happens when you do lots of aerobic exercises only.
"the harder you train, the better your genetics become"
I never said I was a beginner. I have began working out 20 years ago and strength training for 10. I was thin and fit my entire adult life, until I gained the last few years. But then I lifted weights to achieve a level of fitness, not to lose weight. I have found doing what I used to hasn't really worked for me. I have been a member of MFP for almost two years and while these forums can be entertaining, I find that some posters do believe in a one size fits all approach, ignoring the many variables at play when it comes to the body. Since I became a MFP member I did 3 rounds of Insanity, while tracking and while some had remarkable results with the program, I did not. My endurance improved, I dropped a few inches, no lbs and my pants were actually tighter in my thighs. A trainer friend of mine gave me a program which did involve heavy lifting for most of the moves and while eating at a calorie deficit, no significant change. I tried routines I used to do when I was thin, spent six days a week in the gym, following up my strength workouts with cardio, and nothing. I even went to the doctor to have my thyroid checked and found everything came back normal. I listened to many of you talking about BMR and TDEE and adjusted my calories accordingly only to gain and lose the same 5lbs over the course of a 1 and a 1/2. So what changed, three months ago I joined Weight Watchers and I started C25K and started to lose weight. I am actually eating more and exercising less and getting more results. Now there have been some weeks when the scale went up or didn't change, in spite exercise and a perfect diet that week. Why this happens, who knows. This is not to say MFP doesn't work or your advice doesn't work. It does work, but everything isn't for everyone. That is in the only point I've tried to make. As a trainer, if you gave everyone the same plan, what do they need you for. There is just one answer right? I fee like some not all, but some MFP members try to push there plan an their goals and their programs on everyone. If there really was only one way, then we would all be fit and there wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar fitness industry.
You are a beginner until you squat 75kg, bench 50kg and deadlift 100kg.
That is assuming I want to squat 165lbs. I may be okay with 45 on the Smith machine. I didn't say I wanted to be a body builder, I am fine tuning a strength program for my fitness goals.
There are a ton of people who aren't looking to be body builders or pro-lifters that can lift 100lb + or who aim to lift heavy...goals of 200lb +.
And there are a ton of people who don't. That is fine. Why can't one respect the other. You don't have to demonize anyone who chooses a different path than yours. And lifting twice your body weight doesn't mean your fitness journey or goals are any more valid than someone else's journey
I'm not demonizing anything. You're the one insinuating that those who lift heavy or have goals to do so are bodybuilders. was just interjecting to let those who might be lurking know that this isn't the case.
<-me, flyin', wit my big ol built body 0 -
Me before I started lifting.What the heck is skinny fat?0 -
I'd say keep the weight low, and the reps high to tone up, but not build up a lot of mass. But really, it sounds like you just hold some fat in your "problem" areas, so the key would be to get the fat down.
Maybe I will stick with bodyweight squats and lunges for now.
Your figure sounds a lot like mine. I too gain both fat and muscle very easily in my booty and thighs. I don't think you have to stick with body weight. I've had the greatest success with calorie control (not starving, but eating more to lose more did not work for me), cardio, both bodyweight and weighted squats, and plyometrics. I don't do really heavy weights though. I try to stick with something I can do at least 20 reps of. Higher reps seems to work better for me.0 -
Weird, I'm a dancer who has never heard of this and know of several professional dancers who lift.
Where on earth are you getting that idea? Last I checked there were no appearance lengthening exercises. Any exercise will do that over time with a calorie deficit.
Yes, but there are exercises that will make your LEGS appear longer because you're legs are shaped, thinner and toned. One of the routines that can do that is barre workouts.Ummm..... there are no exercises that are going to make your muscles longer. Or leaner. Just sayin
That's not true. Yes, you have to be low-weight to start, but there are some regimes that can make you look bigger. If that weren't the case, ballet students, who are selected for their long, slender, proportional builds, would be allowed to do any exercise they wanted outside of class. But they are usually specifically forbidden to do certain activities that will build up body parts and make their physical appearance less appealing for dance.
I've also read many times that models and actresses who are concerned about gaining any inches on their rears and thighs don't use weights. These are people whose livelihoods depend on what they look like. They think it matters.
I've also heard that the fitness industry is surrounded by ignorance and that many try to scare women away from weights for ignorant reasons like the above since I've managed to stay pretty slim and dancer like.
I also have a few professional dancers on my list...who lift. I also see that some other people in this thread agree:Go away. You know nothing about resistance training. Every comment from you in every thread is ignorant and completely devoid of science, logic and reason. There are people who have experience and training in this thing that are trying to help people. Among those people, there is still disagreement on what works best. But at least when those people debate, they are speaking from a foundation of knowledge. I'd say to go spout off this nonsense on a ballet site but I doubt if that discipline is still applying logic from the 1800s to their craft.0
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