are carbs really that terrible?

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  • VeryKatie
    VeryKatie Posts: 5,961 Member
    Why... are you eating less than 1000 calories!?
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    VeryKatie wrote: »
    Why... are you eating less than 1000 calories!?

    The more important question.
  • Therealobi1
    Therealobi1 Posts: 3,262 Member
    emhunter wrote: »
    emhunter wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    I guess... I'm just tired of hearing that carbs are evil. We know they aren't. They just aren't particularly good for some people.

    I'm guilty. I definitely see carbs as evil after all the problems they have caused me. I can't help but feel that way. :|

    I do recognize carbs aren't that way for many though.

    But tell me, what's so wrong with thinking carbs are evil if they cause lots of problems for you?
    It's wrong because inanimate objects don't possess moral characteristics and they certainly don't have agency or intent.

    If your body doesn't react well to carbs -- or peanuts, or strawberries, or shellfish -- then you should take that into account. There's a fundamental difference between "carbs are evil" and "carbs don't work well for me."

    Yes I understand that this is not everyone's experience with carbs. So I don't tell people they have to watch their carbs if they don't have issues with them. And I understand that carbs are not real living things and don't really possess characteristics such as being evil. However, I don't think it's a big deal to say carbs are evil. People know that carbs aren't alive. I hope no one takes that statement literally. As long as you give the caveat that carbs aren't bad for everyone, I just don't see the problem.

    I hear people say this exercise is a beast or a particular piece of workout equipment is a monster...I don't then believe the exercise or equipment is alive. It's just an expression.

    The problem with this good food bad food talk is that people actually believe it, that is why its not a good idea. Yes i understand that people have medical issues and need to limit it but still that does make the food evil. You see people post oh i ate a slice of pizza, what shall i do now? DO i have to give up bread, pasta, rice to lose weight? No these things are not necessary and it just helps to complicate peoples journeys. The eat the bread then think they have failed, might as well give up.

    p,s OP is that your total calories for the day or have you got more to go?
  • farfromthetree
    farfromthetree Posts: 982 Member
    VeryKatie wrote: »
    Why... are you eating less than 1000 calories!?

    I should read better.

  • msf74
    msf74 Posts: 3,498 Member
    i ate 72 percent of my 988 calories today in carbohydrates. im not hungry. i don't feel groggy or weighed down.

    The problem here isn't your carb intake as you don't seem to have any issues which will impact on adherence - the ability to stick to your preferred diet.

    The issue is whether your diet is capable of delivering sufficient energy and nutrients (both macro and micro) which I feel is unlikely given your current intake. I would strongly recommend you take a moment to consider if your current set up is actually suitable. If you would like some assistance in this regard please feel free to ask.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    A. Eat more than 1,000 calories. 1200 for women and 1500 for men is the guideline that really shouldn't be messed with except with a physician's care, and even then, be hesistant of the physician
    B. Yes, carbs are teribble. I once lent them $5 dollars and now they always tell me, "Oh, I'll that back to you next Tuesday." I know on Tuesday, I'll still be short $5 dollars. Lousy, lying carbs.
  • stevwil41
    stevwil41 Posts: 608 Member
    Wow. This pretty much degenerated into a petty debate. Personally, I follow a moderately low carb diet. It works for me. Anyone with a problem with the way I eat other than me or my doctor can pretty much go crawl back under their bridge. I've found what works for me.

    OP, if you can make a high carb diet work for you in a sustainable manner then have at it. It's all about finding a balance that allows you to both meet and maintain your personal goals.
  • Therealobi1
    Therealobi1 Posts: 3,262 Member
    stevwil41 wrote: »
    Wow. This pretty much degenerated into a petty debate. Personally, I follow a moderately low carb diet. It works for me. Anyone with a problem with the way I eat other than me or my doctor can pretty much go crawl back under their bridge. I've found what works for me.

    OP, if you can make a high carb diet work for you in a sustainable manner then have at it. It's all about finding a balance that allows you to both meet and maintain your personal goals.

    why would anyone have a problem with what you eat?
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
    stevwil41 wrote: »
    Wow. This pretty much degenerated into a petty debate. Personally, I follow a moderately low carb diet. It works for me. Anyone with a problem with the way I eat other than me or my doctor can pretty much go crawl back under their bridge. I've found what works for me.

    OP, if you can make a high carb diet work for you in a sustainable manner then have at it. It's all about finding a balance that allows you to both meet and maintain your personal goals.
    Isnt that what pretty much everyone here said?

  • emhunter
    emhunter Posts: 1,212 Member
    @nvmomketo is the reason you don't like when people say carbs are evil because they don't clarify that it's a problem for them-not everyone?

    Because in posts I say carbs are the devil, then go on to say but that's not the case for many or most people. That seems harmless. Or is that still what bothers you? If so, can you tell me why?
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    I guess... I'm just tired of hearing that carbs are evil. We know they aren't. They just aren't particularly good for some people.

    Agreed. And some are much better for us than others. Some are nutrient dense, high in fiber, some are not.

    That's not the carbs, it's the food those carbs are in.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    stevwil41 wrote: »
    Wow. This pretty much degenerated into a petty debate. Personally, I follow a moderately low carb diet. It works for me. Anyone with a problem with the way I eat other than me or my doctor can pretty much go crawl back under their bridge. I've found what works for me.

    OP, if you can make a high carb diet work for you in a sustainable manner then have at it. It's all about finding a balance that allows you to both meet and maintain your personal goals.
    I know. It is whacky how there are people in this thread threatening to break into people's house and forcibly change their diet, force-feeding them carbs. Why do people say such weird stuff on the internet?
  • janiep81
    janiep81 Posts: 248 Member
    I'm a carb-lover. Sometimes I will let a few go in order to get enough protein. I usually don't have any trouble getting enough fat. ;) ...but carbs, especially the ones from whole grains, dairy, and fruit and vegetables help me have energy and ultimately keep me moving toward my goal.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    edited October 2015
    i ate 72 percent of my 988 calories today in carbohydrates. im not hungry. i don't feel groggy or weighed down. The carbs were spent spent on oatmeal, veggie straws, and fruit. everyone hates carbs, but will i really gain weight if I eat a high percentage of them, like this?

    You're not going to gain weight eating 988 calories a day, full stop.

    This ^^

    Though I realize you don't say if that's all you will eat today. IMO the problem with 72% carbs is not too many carbs, it's too little protein and fat.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    I used to see them as evil but that was when I ate them in large amounts and had no control. Now I try and include them in my diet but in smaller portions, to stay within my calorie goal. We now have a good relationship
    Well said.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    stevwil41 wrote: »
    Wow. This pretty much degenerated into a petty debate. Personally, I follow a moderately low carb diet. It works for me. Anyone with a problem with the way I eat other than me or my doctor can pretty much go crawl back under their bridge. I've found what works for me.

    OP, if you can make a high carb diet work for you in a sustainable manner then have at it. It's all about finding a balance that allows you to both meet and maintain your personal goals.
    I know. It is whacky how there are people in this thread threatening to break into people's house and forcibly change their diet, force-feeding them carbs. Why do people say such weird stuff on the internet?

    :)
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    edited October 2015
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    I guess... I'm just tired of hearing that carbs are evil. We know they aren't. They just aren't particularly good for some people.

    Agreed. And some are much better for us than others. Some are nutrient dense, high in fiber, some are not.

    That's not the carbs, it's the food those carbs are in.

    Fiber is a carb. And I think you'd be hard pressed to find a dietician or nutrition scientist that would not agree they are better for us than most other carbs.

    (disclaimer: "us" refers to the general public and not to someone that is starving or malnourished)
  • skysiebaby
    skysiebaby Posts: 88 Member
    stevwil41 wrote: »
    Wow. This pretty much degenerated into a petty debate. Personally, I follow a moderately low carb diet. It works for me. Anyone with a problem with the way I eat other than me or my doctor can pretty much go crawl back under their bridge. I've found what works for me.

    OP, if you can make a high carb diet work for you in a sustainable manner then have at it. It's all about finding a balance that allows you to both meet and maintain your personal goals.

    Nah. It really didn't.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    edited October 2015
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    I guess... I'm just tired of hearing that carbs are evil. We know they aren't. They just aren't particularly good for some people.

    Agreed. And some are much better for us than others. Some are nutrient dense, high in fiber, some are not.

    That's not the carbs, it's the food those carbs are in.

    NVM
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    stevwil41 wrote: »
    Wow. This pretty much degenerated into a petty debate. Personally, I follow a moderately low carb diet. It works for me. Anyone with a problem with the way I eat other than me or my doctor can pretty much go crawl back under their bridge. I've found what works for me.

    OP, if you can make a high carb diet work for you in a sustainable manner then have at it. It's all about finding a balance that allows you to both meet and maintain your personal goals.

    Who was telling you to eat differently?
  • JustMissTracy
    JustMissTracy Posts: 6,338 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    A. Eat more than 1,000 calories. 1200 for women and 1500 for men is the guideline that really shouldn't be messed with except with a physician's care, and even then, be hesistant of the physician
    B. Yes, carbs are teribble. I once lent them $5 dollars and now they always tell me, "Oh, I'll that back to you next Tuesday." I know on Tuesday, I'll still be short $5 dollars. Lousy, lying carbs.

    Haha!! I know a few "carbs" like that!
  • machjas
    machjas Posts: 26 Member
    Is it true that pasta just gets broken down into sugar?
  • sinbadfxdl
    sinbadfxdl Posts: 103 Member
    I believe keeping track of my carbs and fats. are important. I loeer them to 1/2 daily every 4 to 6 days a week and maintain my protein. I bust loose on the seventh day then repeat.
  • CasperNaegle
    CasperNaegle Posts: 936 Member
    i ate 72 percent of my 988 calories today in carbohydrates. im not hungry. i don't feel groggy or weighed down. The carbs were spent spent on oatmeal, veggie straws, and fruit. everyone hates carbs, but will i really gain weight if I eat a high percentage of them, like this?

    Absolutely not.. Carbs are not the enemy. I do think you need a better balance of macros than this but if you are trying to lose weight you can do it by eating anything, it's about being in a calorie deficit. You might not be healthy but you can be skinny.
  • sinbadfxdl
    sinbadfxdl Posts: 103 Member
    Hate typing while driving. Lol
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    machjas wrote: »
    Is it true that pasta just gets broken down into sugar?

    If by "sugar" you mean glucose in the blood then yes, at least some of it will. That's what feeds our bodies.

    There are carbs that are not absorbed in the gut though, and those are not converted to glucose. They are expelled as waste.
  • _John_
    _John_ Posts: 8,646 Member
    Carbs are very important because most of the natural foods with carbs have most of your micronutrition.
  • CasperNaegle
    CasperNaegle Posts: 936 Member
    machjas wrote: »
    Is it true that pasta just gets broken down into sugar?

    No it doesn't. They are both carbs, one complex and one simple. The body breaks them down differently but ultimately to glucose. There are other nutrients in food (vitamins and minerals) to think about. I wouldn't just eat sugar for all my carbs ;)
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    I try to live in a state of nutritional ketosis to help manage my pain. Keeping my under 50 grams daily is required in my case to manage my pain. When my pain is well managed by my diet then my IBS is gone and my weight is well managed. At my age preventing diabetes and cataracts is another objective that I have so I want to keep my carbs <50 grams a day for that reason too. Carbs, protein and fats are not evil because they can not get into our bodies by themselves. :)
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    _John_ wrote: »
    Carbs are very important because most of the natural foods with carbs have most of your micronutrition.

    Citation for this? Most of your micro nutrition?

    I eat tons of plants, but would like to see where the "most" comes from.
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