when did this obsession for women having big butts start, and why?
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i think the "obsession" has been around for all of time for the humans that are attracted to butts. Just like the "obsession" to sexualize boobs when they are technically for feeding babies. why it concerns you what is sexually appealing to other people is the bigger question. Apples and oranges man.0
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3dogsrunning wrote: »I honestly think it's because some guys prefer big buts in women and some girls tend to feel insecure if they don't have a nice butt. Like I always see posts about smaking the booty and how it looks good turning bed stuff so honestly it's sometimes frm the guys point of view that making girls want big butts to please their man and so on.
never seen girls worry bout it till now...
Hope this helps!!
I've never seen these posts. Are they on MFP?
Aha no, on social media like Twitter and stuff, I know it's very popular around the teen areas, even online
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hamlet1222 wrote: »20 years ago we had the likes of Cindy Crawford and Pamela Anderson
You mean caucasian womenhamlet1222 wrote: »and none of them had disproportionately large backsides.
I don't know what "disproportionately large" means to youhamlet1222 wrote: »Personally I'm not a fan of the J-Lo look,
who careshamlet1222 wrote: »it just seems a bit inelegant to me,
who careshamlet1222 wrote: »Eva Longoria has a much more elegant physique.
I don't know what "elegant" means to you, except maybe "more caucasian-looking"hamlet1222 wrote: »My advice to any woman
who careshamlet1222 wrote: »is just to get your body fat to a healthy % and follow a balanced and regular exercise routine -
lost in my lack of caring about the rest of what you have to sayhamlet1222 wrote: »after that learn to accept yourself and be proud.
Oh gee awesome THANK YOU SO MUCH that would not have occurred to me if you hadn't suggested it
RIGHT AFTER you told us what you thought was NOT OK
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I think it started with that "I like big butts" song, whatever it was called. But no clue.
When I was young, women wanted small butts. The flatter and smaller, the better. Now, some people buy butt inserts like some women used to stuff their bras.
I think it's great that all kinds of butts can can be appreciated these days, but don't spend any time trying to make mine bigger.0 -
i think the "obsession" has been around for all of time for the humans that are attracted to butts. Just like the "obsession" to sexualize boobs when they are technically for feeding babies. why it concerns you what is sexually appealing to other people is the bigger question. Apples and oranges man.
I agree. Different strokes for different folks. You don't like big butts, don't date a girl with a big butt. She will find someone who does like her big butt.0 -
I have spent 1/24th of my life breastfeeding and I object to the "boobs are technically for feeding babies" ...0
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Im a boob guy but I can appreciate a big butt
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I decided not to read this whole thread but from what I did read...
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Am I the only woman that gets pissed off when they call fat girls the ones with curves? You can have curves and be thin especially if you lift wieghts and squat heavy....so why do they have to assume curves equals fat??0
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Also, this:
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Personally, I have tiny boobs and a comparatively bigger butt. But since I don't have any specific standards for a partner etc myself, I don't worry about "my parts". My bf constantly talks about my butt and how he wished it was so much bigger, but... that's his problem.
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antennachick wrote: »Am I the only woman that gets pissed off when they call fat girls the ones with curves? You can have curves and be thin ....so why do they have to assume curves equals fat??
I agree. This has always bugged me. Also the assumption that 'white' girls have flat butts. I'm of dark-haired Irish decent and 'we' tend to have high-round butts and small waists, also 'generic mediteranian' women do. (not getting into anthropology here.. i haven't had enough coffee yet)
What men in general think about my body is of little relevance to me. I am an hourglass with a smaller chest and don't tend to wear padded or push-up bras or wear low-cut stuff. Guys who like big busts are never drawn to me - so what! Guys who are butt-guys- yup, I get them- and guys who have a short-girl fetish- yup , i get them by the bucket-load (especially if they are over 6ft for some reason).
I do get annoyed that women's bodies go through fashions- 1900' s- the S-curve corset/ Gibson Girl look. 1920's the youthful ruler-straight (strap down the busoms and hips), the 30's diet obsession, the 40's pad your shoulders like a guy and 50's conical bras, girdles and all that...... and then repeat......
I think we need to accept that all shapes are feminine, all shapes are okay. You can have your preference, sure but that doesn't make you better tha anyone else. But- I'm shooting for the moon- fashion in bodies will always be with us... and most of us are wise enough to shrug, ignore it and carry on with our life as usual.
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Whitezombiegirl wrote: »antennachick wrote: »Am I the only woman that gets pissed off when they call fat girls the ones with curves? You can have curves and be thin ....so why do they have to assume curves equals fat??
I agree. This has always bugged me. Also the assumption that 'white' girls have flat butts. I'm of dark-haired Irish decent and 'we' tend to have high-round butts and small waists, also 'generic mediteranian' women do. (not getting into anthropology here.. i haven't had enough coffee yet)
What men in general think about my body is of little relevance to me. I am an hourglass with a smaller chest and don't tend to wear padded or push-up bras or wear low-cut stuff. Guys who like big busts are never drawn to me - so what! Guys who are butt-guys- yup, I get them- and guys who have a short-girl fetish- yup , i get them by the bucket-load (especially if they are over 6ft for some reason).
I do get annoyed that women's bodies go through fashions- 1900' s- the S-curve corset/ Gibson Girl look. 1920's the youthful ruler-straight (strap down the busoms and hips), the 30's diet obsession, the 40's pad your shoulders like a guy and 50's conical bras, girdles and all that...... and then repeat......
I think we need to accept that all shapes are feminine, all shapes are okay. You can have your preference, sure but that doesn't make you better tha anyone else. But- I'm shooting for the moon- fashion in bodies will always be with us... and most of us are wise enough to shrug, ignore it and carry on with our life as usual.
LOL at the Irish having high round butts and small waists and those of Mediterranean descent
errr nope that's really not the stereotype of either nationality IMO
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LOL at the Irish having high round butts and small waists and those of Mediterranean descent
errr nope that's really not the stereotype of either nationality IMO
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*Takes a quick look around me* yup- loads of 'curvy' Irish women here. I thought Greek and Italian women were known for thier curves. Not sure what the stereotype for these groups in general are? Just goes to show that we all have different ideas.
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Whitezombiegirl wrote: »antennachick wrote: »and guys who have a short-girl fetish- yup , i get them by the bucket-load (especially if they are over 6ft for some reason).
I am 5' 3", most men that're under 5' 10", think I am too short but men over 6' 2", think I'm too tall; lol.0 -
hamlet1222 wrote: »I see a lot of questions from women wanting to get their posteriors bigger, getting advice on doing squats etc, and it leaves me wondering when did this obsession start? 20 years ago we had the likes of Cindy Crawford and Pamela Anderson, and none of them had disproportionately large backsides.
Personally I'm not a fan of the J-Lo look, it just seems a bit inelegant to me, Eva Longoria has a much more elegant physique. My advice to any woman is just to get your body fat to a healthy % and follow a balanced and regular exercise routine - after that learn to accept yourself and be proud. And that goes for guys too - no one knew what a 'six pack' was before the 90s.
My personal reasons for wanting a firmer 'posterior' is because it looks strong, lean, sculpted and defined.
This is why I squat heavy. I do not squat heavy to get a 'Kim Kardashian' look. Or a Nicki Minaj look. In my opinion, there backsides are all about genetics and surgery - usually a mixture of the two. I'm not a fan of that look, it's a little on the OTT side and doesn't look in proportion with the rest of them.
I'm petite so having a massive backside isn't something I'm looking to get. Certainly sculpted, rounded and toned but not large and noticeable.
The 'ideal' changes. 10 or so years ago, a flat backside was the ultimate achievement. Skinny was 'in' and size zero was 'win'. Now, it's curves and muscles. It'll be something else in another few years to come *sigh*! I'm just going with what I like on little old me! 0 -
antennachick wrote: »Am I the only woman that gets pissed off when they call fat girls the ones with curves? You can have curves and be thin especially if you lift wieghts and squat heavy....so why do they have to assume curves equals fat??
I don't understand - you don't like that "they" say something positive about fat girls, or they called you curveless?
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Okay, this has kind of gone off topic, and I'm horrified that this thread has started taking a racial tone.
I've already received 6 flags from people for my initial post apparently being abusive. I don't see how politely stating a personal preference in an example (a preference that is opposed to the popular norm of bigger is better) can be seen as abusive, but never mind.
Thanks to all those who gave a reasoned answer - I think the point about social trends constantly evolving and repeating is a great one.0 -
High fives and smiles returned to those who offered them! I had to walk away, but I'm glad I came back.hamlet1222 wrote: »Okay, this has kind of gone off topic, and I'm horrified that this thread has started taking a racial tone.
I've already received 6 flags from people for my initial post apparently being abusive. I don't see how politely stating a personal preference in an example (a preference that is opposed to the popular norm of bigger is better) can be seen as abusive, but never mind.
Thanks to all those who gave a reasoned answer - I think the point about social trends constantly evolving and repeating is a great one.
We did give you reasoned answers. If you're a little wounded by the tone, maybe you need to think about toughening up a little.
You didn't just state a "personal preference" about women's bodies. You held it up as a standard for others to follow, exhorting women to agree with you, while denigrating a body shape that is 100% natural for lots of women because of their background. Is it ok with you if they dare to like their bodies the way they are? (Not that it matters what you think.)
Hamlet, you need to think about this some MORE.
Not to mention that women are obviously free to do whatever we like with our bodies and that your opinion on the subject (as I tried to say) just really doesn't matter0 -
I think from here on in my motivation for doing squats is just gonna be to fluster this guy with my inelegance.0
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hamlet1222 wrote: »thanks guys, gotta say though, I was hoping for more of a socio-anthropological analysis in the anwers
Then this is not the forum to ask.
But also - from what I've seen is not just having a big butt that's a trend . . . it's the general shape of it and whether you have that definition curve in your lower back heading to your butt. Some women have it, some don't. Also there's a lot to be said for the shape of your butt in this case. Just having a big butt doesn't make it nice looking . . .0 -
hamlet1222 wrote: »Okay, this has kind of gone off topic, and I'm horrified that this thread has started taking a racial tone.
I've already received 6 flags from people for my initial post apparently being abusive. I don't see how politely stating a personal preference in an example (a preference that is opposed to the popular norm of bigger is better) can be seen as abusive, but never mind.
Thanks to all those who gave a reasoned answer - I think the point about social trends constantly evolving and repeating is a great one.
Saying that a person's body is inelegant is rude and insulting. It's perfectly fine to prefer one build over another--that's normal--but there's no need to insult women who don't have that build.0 -
Well said!Whitezombiegirl wrote: »antennachick wrote: »Am I the only woman that gets pissed off when they call fat girls the ones with curves? You can have curves and be thin ....so why do they have to assume curves equals fat??
I agree. This has always bugged me. Also the assumption that 'white' girls have flat butts. I'm of dark-haired Irish decent and 'we' tend to have high-round butts and small waists, also 'generic mediteranian' women do. (not getting into anthropology here.. i haven't had enough coffee yet)
What men in general think about my body is of little relevance to me. I am an hourglass with a smaller chest and don't tend to wear padded or push-up bras or wear low-cut stuff. Guys who like big busts are never drawn to me - so what! Guys who are butt-guys- yup, I get them- and guys who have a short-girl fetish- yup , i get them by the bucket-load (especially if they are over 6ft for some reason).
I do get annoyed that women's bodies go through fashions- 1900' s- the S-curve corset/ Gibson Girl look. 1920's the youthful ruler-straight (strap down the busoms and hips), the 30's diet obsession, the 40's pad your shoulders like a guy and 50's conical bras, girdles and all that...... and then repeat......
I think we need to accept that all shapes are feminine, all shapes are okay. You can have your preference, sure but that doesn't make you better tha anyone else. But- I'm shooting for the moon- fashion in bodies will always be with us... and most of us are wise enough to shrug, ignore it and carry on with our life as usual.
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Big butts can be elegant when they are natural a lot of woman don't have big breast but have a natural nice rear end, nothing wrong with that beauty comes in all different shapes and sizes proportioned or not.0
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crazyjerseygirl wrote: »I think from here on in my motivation for doing squats is just gonna be to fluster this guy with my inelegance.
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Sir Mix A Lot first had the song I like big butts.
It is sort of a cultural thing though. A lot of men of color have always preferred or liked big butts. However, for the women that get the surgery to enhance their butts, I think it often does not look real or cute. But a woman that naturally has a bigger butt...I don't think there is anything "inelegant" about it. It's how us big booty girls were made.
Well said #teamnaturals
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hamlet1222 wrote: »Okay, this has kind of gone off topic, and I'm horrified that this thread has started taking a racial tone.
I've already received 6 flags from people for my initial post apparently being abusive. I don't see how politely stating a personal preference in an example (a preference that is opposed to the popular norm of bigger is better) can be seen as abusive, but never mind.
Thanks to all those who gave a reasoned answer - I think the point about social trends constantly evolving and repeating is a great one.
I don't think your OP meets the criteria for Abuse. You can ask a mod to check into that and clear those flags if they think they do not apply.
However, after reading the responses, can't you see how your OP would be perceived as ... inelegant?0
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