when did this obsession for women having big butts start, and why?

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  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
    edited October 2015
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    High fives and smiles returned to those who offered them! I had to walk away, but I'm glad I came back.
    hamlet1222 wrote: »
    Okay, this has kind of gone off topic, and I'm horrified that this thread has started taking a racial tone.

    I've already received 6 flags from people for my initial post apparently being abusive. I don't see how politely stating a personal preference in an example (a preference that is opposed to the popular norm of bigger is better) can be seen as abusive, but never mind.

    Thanks to all those who gave a reasoned answer - I think the point about social trends constantly evolving and repeating is a great one.

    We did give you reasoned answers. If you're a little wounded by the tone, maybe you need to think about toughening up a little.

    You didn't just state a "personal preference" about women's bodies. You held it up as a standard for others to follow, exhorting women to agree with you, while denigrating a body shape that is 100% natural for lots of women because of their background. Is it ok with you if they dare to like their bodies the way they are? (Not that it matters what you think.)

    Hamlet, you need to think about this some MORE.

    Not to mention that women are obviously free to do whatever we like with our bodies and that your opinion on the subject (as I tried to say) just really doesn't matter
  • crazyjerseygirl
    crazyjerseygirl Posts: 1,252 Member
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    I think from here on in my motivation for doing squats is just gonna be to fluster this guy with my inelegance.
  • acorsaut89
    acorsaut89 Posts: 1,147 Member
    edited October 2015
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    hamlet1222 wrote: »
    thanks guys, gotta say though, I was hoping for more of a socio-anthropological analysis in the anwers :)

    Then this is not the forum to ask.

    But also - from what I've seen is not just having a big butt that's a trend . . . it's the general shape of it and whether you have that definition curve in your lower back heading to your butt. Some women have it, some don't. Also there's a lot to be said for the shape of your butt in this case. Just having a big butt doesn't make it nice looking . . .
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
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    hamlet1222 wrote: »
    Okay, this has kind of gone off topic, and I'm horrified that this thread has started taking a racial tone.

    I've already received 6 flags from people for my initial post apparently being abusive. I don't see how politely stating a personal preference in an example (a preference that is opposed to the popular norm of bigger is better) can be seen as abusive, but never mind.

    Thanks to all those who gave a reasoned answer - I think the point about social trends constantly evolving and repeating is a great one.

    Saying that a person's body is inelegant is rude and insulting. It's perfectly fine to prefer one build over another--that's normal--but there's no need to insult women who don't have that build.
  • antennachick
    antennachick Posts: 464 Member
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    Whitezombiegirl wrote: »
    antennachick wrote: »
    Am I the only woman that gets pissed off when they call fat girls the ones with curves? You can have curves and be thin ....so why do they have to assume curves equals fat??

    I agree. This has always bugged me. Also the assumption that 'white' girls have flat butts. I'm of dark-haired Irish decent and 'we' tend to have high-round butts and small waists, also 'generic mediteranian' women do. (not getting into anthropology here.. i haven't had enough coffee yet)

    What men in general think about my body is of little relevance to me. I am an hourglass with a smaller chest and don't tend to wear padded or push-up bras or wear low-cut stuff. Guys who like big busts are never drawn to me - so what! Guys who are butt-guys- yup, I get them- and guys who have a short-girl fetish- yup , i get them by the bucket-load (especially if they are over 6ft for some reason).

    I do get annoyed that women's bodies go through fashions- 1900' s- the S-curve corset/ Gibson Girl look. 1920's the youthful ruler-straight (strap down the busoms and hips), the 30's diet obsession, the 40's pad your shoulders like a guy and 50's conical bras, girdles and all that...... and then repeat......

    I think we need to accept that all shapes are feminine, all shapes are okay. You can have your preference, sure but that doesn't make you better tha anyone else. But- I'm shooting for the moon- fashion in bodies will always be with us... and most of us are wise enough to shrug, ignore it and carry on with our life as usual.
    Well said!
  • lalainap19
    lalainap19 Posts: 165 Member
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    Big butts can be elegant when they are natural a lot of woman don't have big breast but have a natural nice rear end, nothing wrong with that beauty comes in all different shapes and sizes proportioned or not.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,988 Member
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    crazyjerseygirl wrote: »
    I think from here on in my motivation for doing squats is just gonna be to fluster this guy with my inelegance.

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  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,988 Member
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    kkenseth wrote: »
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    You beat me to it :)
  • lalainap19
    lalainap19 Posts: 165 Member
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    emhunter wrote: »
    Sir Mix A Lot first had the song I like big butts.

    It is sort of a cultural thing though. A lot of men of color have always preferred or liked big butts. However, for the women that get the surgery to enhance their butts, I think it often does not look real or cute. But a woman that naturally has a bigger butt...I don't think there is anything "inelegant" about it. It's how us big booty girls were made.

    Well said #teamnaturals
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,988 Member
    edited October 2015
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    hamlet1222 wrote: »
    Okay, this has kind of gone off topic, and I'm horrified that this thread has started taking a racial tone.

    I've already received 6 flags from people for my initial post apparently being abusive. I don't see how politely stating a personal preference in an example (a preference that is opposed to the popular norm of bigger is better) can be seen as abusive, but never mind.

    Thanks to all those who gave a reasoned answer - I think the point about social trends constantly evolving and repeating is a great one.

    I don't think your OP meets the criteria for Abuse. You can ask a mod to check into that and clear those flags if they think they do not apply.

    However, after reading the responses, can't you see how your OP would be perceived as ... inelegant?
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
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    hamlet1222 wrote: »
    Okay, this has kind of gone off topic, and I'm horrified that this thread has started taking a racial tone.

    I've already received 6 flags from people for my initial post apparently being abusive. I don't see how politely stating a personal preference in an example (a preference that is opposed to the popular norm of bigger is better) can be seen as abusive, but never mind.

    Thanks to all those who gave a reasoned answer - I think the point about social trends constantly evolving and repeating is a great one.

    Oh, hamlet.

    And now you complain: "That it should come to this!"

    For having thought and acted as if: "Frailty, thy name is woman!"

    Remember that you tell this to all these women: "This above all: to thine own self be true."

    Then don't be surprised if the response is: "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark."

    MFP: "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't."

    We all await your finale retort: "The ladies (sic) doth protest too much, methinks."
  • crazyjerseygirl
    crazyjerseygirl Posts: 1,252 Member
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    EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
    hamlet1222 wrote: »
    Okay, this has kind of gone off topic, and I'm horrified that this thread has started taking a racial tone.

    I've already received 6 flags from people for my initial post apparently being abusive. I don't see how politely stating a personal preference in an example (a preference that is opposed to the popular norm of bigger is better) can be seen as abusive, but never mind.

    Thanks to all those who gave a reasoned answer - I think the point about social trends constantly evolving and repeating is a great one.

    Oh, hamlet.

    And now you complain: "That it should come to this!"

    For having thought and acted as if: "Frailty, thy name is woman!"

    Remember that you tell this to all these women: "This above all: to thine own self be true."

    Then don't be surprised if the response is: "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark."

    MFP: "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't."

    We all await your finale retort: "The ladies (sic) doth protest too much, methinks."

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  • Therealobi1
    Therealobi1 Posts: 3,262 Member
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    What an awful post you created. How can anyone say jlo is not elegant. She always looks fantastic.

    Signed big bottomed and proud
  • OhMsDiva
    OhMsDiva Posts: 1,073 Member
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    MondayJune22nd2015 wrote: »
    I don't have a "bubble butt" but I am wide there. All I want is a "thigh gap"!

    That. and to add my un antropoligical un psychological answer. I dont know when it started, but I know that black women have had big butts for years and it was frowned upon, but as soon as Kim K got a fake butt it was the thing to do....
  • FredKing1
    FredKing1 Posts: 98 Member
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    Health is beautiful.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
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    EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
    hamlet1222 wrote: »
    Okay, this has kind of gone off topic, and I'm horrified that this thread has started taking a racial tone.

    I've already received 6 flags from people for my initial post apparently being abusive. I don't see how politely stating a personal preference in an example (a preference that is opposed to the popular norm of bigger is better) can be seen as abusive, but never mind.

    Thanks to all those who gave a reasoned answer - I think the point about social trends constantly evolving and repeating is a great one.

    Oh, hamlet.

    And now you complain: "That it should come to this!"

    For having thought and acted as if: "Frailty, thy name is woman!"

    Remember that you tell this to all these women: "This above all: to thine own self be true."

    Then don't be surprised if the response is: "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark."

    MFP: "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't."

    We all await your finale retort: "The ladies (sic) doth protest too much, methinks."
    IFLY
  • WingardiumLeviosa91
    WingardiumLeviosa91 Posts: 296 Member
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    DavPul wrote: »
    hamlet1222 wrote: »
    I see a lot of questions from women wanting to get their posteriors bigger, getting advice on doing squats etc, and it leaves me wondering when did this obsession start? 20 years ago we had the likes of Cindy Crawford and Pamela Anderson, and none of them had disproportionately large backsides.

    Personally I'm not a fan of the J-Lo look, it just seems a bit inelegant to me, Eva Longoria has a much more elegant physique. My advice to any woman is just to get your body fat to a healthy % and follow a balanced and regular exercise routine - after that learn to accept yourself and be proud. And that goes for guys too - no one knew what a 'six pack' was before the 90s.

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    Hahahahha how I felt after reading
  • WingardiumLeviosa91
    WingardiumLeviosa91 Posts: 296 Member
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    hamlet1222 wrote: »
    thanks guys, gotta say though, I was hoping for more of a socio-anthropological analysis in the anwers :)

    You can't be so shallow and expect a deep meaningful answer.
  • AspenDan
    AspenDan Posts: 703 Member
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    For me? Hands =)
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
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    hamlet1222 wrote: »
    Okay, this has kind of gone off topic, and I'm horrified that this thread has started taking a racial tone.

    I've already received 6 flags from people for my initial post apparently being abusive. I don't see how politely stating a personal preference in an example (a preference that is opposed to the popular norm of bigger is better) can be seen as abusive, but never mind.

    Thanks to all those who gave a reasoned answer - I think the point about social trends constantly evolving and repeating is a great one.

    Lololololol.

    You told women what you think you they should look like and insinuate that a female physique that's not 80's Caucasian supermodel or 90s porn star looking is ugly. And you're shocked, SHOCKED, that people took offense.

    You politely told entire groups of people that their genetics and/or goals are "inelegant" and can't figure out where your went wrong, huh?

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