Box diet
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TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »After about two weeks of some huge weight loss and what feels like big fat-mass loss (6kg lost in less then two weeks), my weight suddenly started to ... grow. On small boxes with total day about 1700 cal the weight grows . It's really frustrating. 84kg / 185, down from 90kg/185. Target weight: 75 kg.
That's not all fat that you've lost
Definitely I feel I lost some muscle tissue. I struggle with some weight to lift that was not big for me like 2 weeks ago.Unfortunately I feel I lost quite a bit of pure muscle strength... :-(
Why would you do that to yourself?
I suspect it is just the way it is.. you lose some fat, some muscle, I can't really help it. Sure I want to lose only fat, but it is just not the way thing work out.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »After about two weeks of some huge weight loss and what feels like big fat-mass loss (6kg lost in less then two weeks), my weight suddenly started to ... grow. On small boxes with total day about 1700 cal the weight grows . It's really frustrating. 84kg / 185, down from 90kg/185. Target weight: 75 kg.
That's not all fat that you've lost
Definitely I feel I lost some muscle tissue. I struggle with some weight to lift that was not big for me like 2 weeks ago.Unfortunately I feel I lost quite a bit of pure muscle strength... :-(
This does not appear to be working for you. I would suggest logging your information into MFP, setting a moderate goal, and then eat to your calorie goal. And if you find yourself lacking energy, perhaps try cutting back on the wine and getting more nutrition through food.
I lost 6 kg in less than 2 weeks. It works out very well. It just can't go forever, losing weight at this speed.
You might be disappointed that at least 2 of these kilograms will return as soon as you start a normal weight loss program. With the limited amount of food you have been having and the alcohol you likely lost quite a bit of water weight0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »After about two weeks of some huge weight loss and what feels like big fat-mass loss (6kg lost in less then two weeks), my weight suddenly started to ... grow. On small boxes with total day about 1700 cal the weight grows . It's really frustrating. 84kg / 185, down from 90kg/185. Target weight: 75 kg.
That's not all fat that you've lost
Definitely I feel I lost some muscle tissue. I struggle with some weight to lift that was not big for me like 2 weeks ago.Unfortunately I feel I lost quite a bit of pure muscle strength... :-(
Why would you do that to yourself?
I suspect it is just the way it is.. you lose some fat, some muscle, I can't really help it. Sure I want to lose only fat, but it is just not the way thing work out.
Actually, it really doesn't have to be like that. I've lost about 90lbs, 40lbs since lifting weights, and I've gone from a dead lift of 65lbs for reps to 235lbs or so. You don't have to lose strength to lose weight.
But, you also don't seem to care about any advice given to you.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »After about two weeks of some huge weight loss and what feels like big fat-mass loss (6kg lost in less then two weeks), my weight suddenly started to ... grow. On small boxes with total day about 1700 cal the weight grows . It's really frustrating. 84kg / 185, down from 90kg/185. Target weight: 75 kg.
That's not all fat that you've lost
Definitely I feel I lost some muscle tissue. I struggle with some weight to lift that was not big for me like 2 weeks ago.Unfortunately I feel I lost quite a bit of pure muscle strength... :-(
Why would you do that to yourself?
I suspect it is just the way it is.. you lose some fat, some muscle, I can't really help it. Sure I want to lose only fat, but it is just not the way thing work out.
The way you preserve as much muscle as possible is to drop the weight at a reasonable deficit and lift heavy. It's a lot harder to regain muscle than it is to preserve it while losing. You should up your calories and start lifting.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »After about two weeks of some huge weight loss and what feels like big fat-mass loss (6kg lost in less then two weeks), my weight suddenly started to ... grow. On small boxes with total day about 1700 cal the weight grows . It's really frustrating. 84kg / 185, down from 90kg/185. Target weight: 75 kg.
That's not all fat that you've lost
Definitely I feel I lost some muscle tissue. I struggle with some weight to lift that was not big for me like 2 weeks ago.Unfortunately I feel I lost quite a bit of pure muscle strength... :-(
Why would you do that to yourself?
I suspect it is just the way it is.. you lose some fat, some muscle, I can't really help it. Sure I want to lose only fat, but it is just not the way thing work out. Sure I am sad I don't lose more weight and fat and that I am nowhere near my target. However it feels like lowest body fat level for me in years
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the box great idea0
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TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »After about two weeks of some huge weight loss and what feels like big fat-mass loss (6kg lost in less then two weeks), my weight suddenly started to ... grow. On small boxes with total day about 1700 cal the weight grows . It's really frustrating. 84kg / 185, down from 90kg/185. Target weight: 75 kg.
That's not all fat that you've lost
Definitely I feel I lost some muscle tissue. I struggle with some weight to lift that was not big for me like 2 weeks ago.Unfortunately I feel I lost quite a bit of pure muscle strength... :-(
Why would you do that to yourself?
I suspect it is just the way it is.. you lose some fat, some muscle, I can't really help it. Sure I want to lose only fat, but it is just not the way thing work out.
Actually, it really doesn't have to be like that. I've lost about 90lbs, 40lbs since lifting weights, and I've gone from a dead lift of 65lbs for reps to 235lbs or so. You don't have to lose strength to lose weight.
Buy, you also don't seem to care about any advice given to you.
Well.. with weight loss everyone has his own way... Whatever works for you...0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »After about two weeks of some huge weight loss and what feels like big fat-mass loss (6kg lost in less then two weeks), my weight suddenly started to ... grow. On small boxes with total day about 1700 cal the weight grows . It's really frustrating. 84kg / 185, down from 90kg/185. Target weight: 75 kg.
That's not all fat that you've lost
Definitely I feel I lost some muscle tissue. I struggle with some weight to lift that was not big for me like 2 weeks ago.Unfortunately I feel I lost quite a bit of pure muscle strength... :-(
This does not appear to be working for you. I would suggest logging your information into MFP, setting a moderate goal, and then eat to your calorie goal. And if you find yourself lacking energy, perhaps try cutting back on the wine and getting more nutrition through food.
I lost 6 kg in less than 2 weeks. It works out very well. It just can't go forever, losing weight at this speed.
Water, LBM and a little fat
Strength, skin, hair and nails at risk
Bad diet (mode of eating) is bad whether it fits in a box or on the head of a pin
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Stop feeding attention to this guy and his ridiculous box diet. If it's not a joke, and I still highly suspect it is, he refuses to listen to anybody's advice anyway.0
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TavistockToad wrote: »After about two weeks of some huge weight loss and what feels like big fat-mass loss (6kg lost in less then two weeks), my weight suddenly started to ... grow. On small boxes with total day about 1700 cal the weight grows . It's really frustrating. 84kg / 185, down from 90kg/185. Target weight: 75 kg.
That's not all fat that you've lost
Definitely I feel I lost some muscle tissue. I struggle with some weight to lift that was not big for me like 2 weeks ago.Unfortunately I feel I lost quite a bit of pure muscle strength... :-(
This does not appear to be working for you. I would suggest logging your information into MFP, setting a moderate goal, and then eat to your calorie goal. And if you find yourself lacking energy, perhaps try cutting back on the wine and getting more nutrition through food.
I lost 6 kg in less than 2 weeks. It works out very well. It just can't go forever, losing weight at this speed.
Water, LBM and a little fat
Strength, skin, hair and nails at risk
Bad diet (mode of eating) is bad whether it fits in a box or on the head of a pin
It is substantial fat amount. Don't even kid yourself. Likely within 20% body fat now.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »After about two weeks of some huge weight loss and what feels like big fat-mass loss (6kg lost in less then two weeks), my weight suddenly started to ... grow. On small boxes with total day about 1700 cal the weight grows . It's really frustrating. 84kg / 185, down from 90kg/185. Target weight: 75 kg.
That's not all fat that you've lost
Definitely I feel I lost some muscle tissue. I struggle with some weight to lift that was not big for me like 2 weeks ago.Unfortunately I feel I lost quite a bit of pure muscle strength... :-(
This does not appear to be working for you. I would suggest logging your information into MFP, setting a moderate goal, and then eat to your calorie goal. And if you find yourself lacking energy, perhaps try cutting back on the wine and getting more nutrition through food.
I lost 6 kg in less than 2 weeks. It works out very well. It just can't go forever, losing weight at this speed.
Water, LBM and a little fat
Strength, skin, hair and nails at risk
Bad diet (mode of eating) is bad whether it fits in a box or on the head of a pin
It is substantial fat amount. Don't even kid yourself. Likely within 20% body fat now.
Your diet sucks
Is grossly deficient in major nutritional requirements
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rchlthompson wrote: »Stop feeding attention to this guy and his ridiculous box diet. If it's not a joke, and I still highly suspect it is, he refuses to listen to anybody's advice anyway.
No, it's not a joke, there is a book called The Lunch Box Diet, and this is definitely it.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »After about two weeks of some huge weight loss and what feels like big fat-mass loss (6kg lost in less then two weeks), my weight suddenly started to ... grow. On small boxes with total day about 1700 cal the weight grows . It's really frustrating. 84kg / 185, down from 90kg/185. Target weight: 75 kg.
That's not all fat that you've lost
Definitely I feel I lost some muscle tissue. I struggle with some weight to lift that was not big for me like 2 weeks ago.Unfortunately I feel I lost quite a bit of pure muscle strength... :-(
This does not appear to be working for you. I would suggest logging your information into MFP, setting a moderate goal, and then eat to your calorie goal. And if you find yourself lacking energy, perhaps try cutting back on the wine and getting more nutrition through food.
I lost 6 kg in less than 2 weeks. It works out very well. It just can't go forever, losing weight at this speed.
Water, LBM and a little fat
Strength, skin, hair and nails at risk
Bad diet (mode of eating) is bad whether it fits in a box or on the head of a pin
It is substantial fat amount. Don't even kid yourself. Likely within 20% body fat now.
Your diet sucks
Is grossly deficient in major nutritional requirements
Shrugs
My diet is not about things you eat. You can't even understand what my diet is about.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »After about two weeks of some huge weight loss and what feels like big fat-mass loss (6kg lost in less then two weeks), my weight suddenly started to ... grow. On small boxes with total day about 1700 cal the weight grows . It's really frustrating. 84kg / 185, down from 90kg/185. Target weight: 75 kg.
That's not all fat that you've lost
Definitely I feel I lost some muscle tissue. I struggle with some weight to lift that was not big for me like 2 weeks ago.Unfortunately I feel I lost quite a bit of pure muscle strength... :-(
This does not appear to be working for you. I would suggest logging your information into MFP, setting a moderate goal, and then eat to your calorie goal. And if you find yourself lacking energy, perhaps try cutting back on the wine and getting more nutrition through food.
I lost 6 kg in less than 2 weeks. It works out very well. It just can't go forever, losing weight at this speed.
Water, LBM and a little fat
Strength, skin, hair and nails at risk
Bad diet (mode of eating) is bad whether it fits in a box or on the head of a pin
It is substantial fat amount. Don't even kid yourself. Likely within 20% body fat now.
Your diet sucks
Is grossly deficient in major nutritional requirements
Shrugs
My diet is not about things you eat. You can't even understand what my diet is about.
There is a huge irony in that last sentence and the first doesn't make any sense.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »After about two weeks of some huge weight loss and what feels like big fat-mass loss (6kg lost in less then two weeks), my weight suddenly started to ... grow. On small boxes with total day about 1700 cal the weight grows . It's really frustrating. 84kg / 185, down from 90kg/185. Target weight: 75 kg.
That's not all fat that you've lost
Definitely I feel I lost some muscle tissue. I struggle with some weight to lift that was not big for me like 2 weeks ago.Unfortunately I feel I lost quite a bit of pure muscle strength... :-(
This does not appear to be working for you. I would suggest logging your information into MFP, setting a moderate goal, and then eat to your calorie goal. And if you find yourself lacking energy, perhaps try cutting back on the wine and getting more nutrition through food.
I lost 6 kg in less than 2 weeks. It works out very well. It just can't go forever, losing weight at this speed.
Water, LBM and a little fat
Strength, skin, hair and nails at risk
Bad diet (mode of eating) is bad whether it fits in a box or on the head of a pin
It is substantial fat amount. Don't even kid yourself. Likely within 20% body fat now.
Your diet sucks
Is grossly deficient in major nutritional requirements
Shrugs
My diet is not about things you eat. You can't even understand what my diet is about.
There is a huge irony in that last sentence and the first doesn't make any sense.
What doesn't make any sense is your commenting efforts. My diet is not the same as the lunch diet.0 -
It's nothing to do with what I eat ...although my diary is balanced and full of deliciousness
It's more to do with understanding macro and micro nutrients and their role in health and wellbeing ... Your boxes imply that you're Israeli ..you have access to amazing fresh foods and a wealth of adaptable recipes. You clearly have Internet access so could look up minimum recommended nutritional requirements on many recognised sites, not one of your daily plans has reached those minimums
@Wheelhouse15 ..lats and arms are looking darn fine
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TavistockToad wrote: »After about two weeks of some huge weight loss and what feels like big fat-mass loss (6kg lost in less then two weeks), my weight suddenly started to ... grow. On small boxes with total day about 1700 cal the weight grows . It's really frustrating. 84kg / 185, down from 90kg/185. Target weight: 75 kg.
That's not all fat that you've lost
Definitely I feel I lost some muscle tissue. I struggle with some weight to lift that was not big for me like 2 weeks ago.Unfortunately I feel I lost quite a bit of pure muscle strength... :-(
This does not appear to be working for you. I would suggest logging your information into MFP, setting a moderate goal, and then eat to your calorie goal. And if you find yourself lacking energy, perhaps try cutting back on the wine and getting more nutrition through food.
I lost 6 kg in less than 2 weeks. It works out very well. It just can't go forever, losing weight at this speed.
Water, LBM and a little fat
Strength, skin, hair and nails at risk
Bad diet (mode of eating) is bad whether it fits in a box or on the head of a pin
It is substantial fat amount. Don't even kid yourself. Likely within 20% body fat now.
Your diet sucks
Is grossly deficient in major nutritional requirements
Shrugs
My diet is not about things you eat. You can't even understand what my diet is about.
OK well um........if your diet isn't about things you eat then.....never mind. ..
When you realize this diet isn't what you think it is, we will all be here to explain how a well balanced diet with a reasonable yet responsible calorie deficit is the way to go for lasting success.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »After about two weeks of some huge weight loss and what feels like big fat-mass loss (6kg lost in less then two weeks), my weight suddenly started to ... grow. On small boxes with total day about 1700 cal the weight grows . It's really frustrating. 84kg / 185, down from 90kg/185. Target weight: 75 kg.
That's not all fat that you've lost
Definitely I feel I lost some muscle tissue. I struggle with some weight to lift that was not big for me like 2 weeks ago.Unfortunately I feel I lost quite a bit of pure muscle strength... :-(
Why would you do that to yourself?
I suspect it is just the way it is.. you lose some fat, some muscle, I can't really help it. Sure I want to lose only fat, but it is just not the way thing work out.
The way you preserve as much muscle as possible is to drop the weight at a reasonable deficit and lift heavy. It's a lot harder to regain muscle than it is to preserve it while losing. You should up your calories and start lifting.
This !0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »After about two weeks of some huge weight loss and what feels like big fat-mass loss (6kg lost in less then two weeks), my weight suddenly started to ... grow. On small boxes with total day about 1700 cal the weight grows . It's really frustrating. 84kg / 185, down from 90kg/185. Target weight: 75 kg.
That's not all fat that you've lost
Definitely I feel I lost some muscle tissue. I struggle with some weight to lift that was not big for me like 2 weeks ago.Unfortunately I feel I lost quite a bit of pure muscle strength... :-(
This does not appear to be working for you. I would suggest logging your information into MFP, setting a moderate goal, and then eat to your calorie goal. And if you find yourself lacking energy, perhaps try cutting back on the wine and getting more nutrition through food.
I lost 6 kg in less than 2 weeks. It works out very well. It just can't go forever, losing weight at this speed.
But since you aren't eating enough protein - you are losing muscle too. Continue this way and you will end up damaging your heart.0 -
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »After about two weeks of some huge weight loss and what feels like big fat-mass loss (6kg lost in less then two weeks), my weight suddenly started to ... grow. On small boxes with total day about 1700 cal the weight grows . It's really frustrating. 84kg / 185, down from 90kg/185. Target weight: 75 kg.
That's not all fat that you've lost
Definitely I feel I lost some muscle tissue. I struggle with some weight to lift that was not big for me like 2 weeks ago.Unfortunately I feel I lost quite a bit of pure muscle strength... :-(
This does not appear to be working for you. I would suggest logging your information into MFP, setting a moderate goal, and then eat to your calorie goal. And if you find yourself lacking energy, perhaps try cutting back on the wine and getting more nutrition through food.
I lost 6 kg in less than 2 weeks. It works out very well. It just can't go forever, losing weight at this speed.
Water, LBM and a little fat
Strength, skin, hair and nails at risk
Bad diet (mode of eating) is bad whether it fits in a box or on the head of a pin
It is substantial fat amount. Don't even kid yourself. Likely within 20% body fat now.
Your diet sucks
Is grossly deficient in major nutritional requirements
Shrugs
My diet is not about things you eat. You can't even understand what my diet is about.
There is a huge irony in that last sentence and the first doesn't make any sense.
What doesn't make any sense is your commenting efforts. My diet is not the same as the lunch diet.
http://www.dietsinreview.com/diets/the_lunch_box_diet/ Are you so sure about your own diet? You really don't understand much about nutrition so I'll let you go about this and in a year or so when you've gained it all back you can post all about your experience and how you can't believe it didn't work.0 -
You would be a good candidate for the cups measurements method of diet I saw advertized on TV ... it had various size containers that you prefilled with the food for the day and then you ate those. The containers were like, 2 cup, 1 cup, 1/2 cup, 1/4 cup.
I do something similar to curb overeating by using the plate method ... I have a 9" plate from an old dinnerware set from the days when plates were not the giants we have now-a-days ... and it gets divided visually into 4 parts ... 2 parts get non-starchy veggies, 1 part gets protein, 1 part gets starch carb and food is placed only up to the inside rim of the plate. I also have a rimmed soup bowl that holds about 2 cups of food ... and that is my measure for liquid or soft foods, like soup, spaghetti, chili, my breakfast porridge/fruit combo ....
.... Whatever floats your boat is the thing to do! Good Luck.0 -
You would be a good candidate for the cups measurements method of diet I saw advertized on TV ... it had various size containers that you prefilled with the food for the day and then you ate those. The containers were like, 2 cup, 1 cup, 1/2 cup, 1/4 cup.
I do something similar to curb overeating by using the plate method ... I have a 9" plate from an old dinnerware set from the days when plates were not the giants we have now-a-days ... and it gets divided visually into 4 parts ... 2 parts get non-starchy veggies, 1 part gets protein, 1 part gets starch carb and food is placed only up to the inside rim of the plate. I also have a rimmed soup bowl that holds about 2 cups of food ... and that is my measure for liquid or soft foods, like soup, spaghetti, chili, my breakfast porridge/fruit combo ....
.... Whatever floats your boat is the thing to do! Good Luck.
Am I the only person on MFP who still just measures and weighs food to ensure I reach my calorie and macro goals each day?0 -
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jofjltncb6 wrote: »You would be a good candidate for the cups measurements method of diet I saw advertized on TV ... it had various size containers that you prefilled with the food for the day and then you ate those. The containers were like, 2 cup, 1 cup, 1/2 cup, 1/4 cup.
I do something similar to curb overeating by using the plate method ... I have a 9" plate from an old dinnerware set from the days when plates were not the giants we have now-a-days ... and it gets divided visually into 4 parts ... 2 parts get non-starchy veggies, 1 part gets protein, 1 part gets starch carb and food is placed only up to the inside rim of the plate. I also have a rimmed soup bowl that holds about 2 cups of food ... and that is my measure for liquid or soft foods, like soup, spaghetti, chili, my breakfast porridge/fruit combo ....
.... Whatever floats your boat is the thing to do! Good Luck.
Am I the only person on MFP who still just measures and weighs food to ensure I reach my calorie and macro goals each day?
Yep, just you.
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jofjltncb6 wrote: »You would be a good candidate for the cups measurements method of diet I saw advertized on TV ... it had various size containers that you prefilled with the food for the day and then you ate those. The containers were like, 2 cup, 1 cup, 1/2 cup, 1/4 cup.
I do something similar to curb overeating by using the plate method ... I have a 9" plate from an old dinnerware set from the days when plates were not the giants we have now-a-days ... and it gets divided visually into 4 parts ... 2 parts get non-starchy veggies, 1 part gets protein, 1 part gets starch carb and food is placed only up to the inside rim of the plate. I also have a rimmed soup bowl that holds about 2 cups of food ... and that is my measure for liquid or soft foods, like soup, spaghetti, chili, my breakfast porridge/fruit combo ....
.... Whatever floats your boat is the thing to do! Good Luck.
Am I the only person on MFP who still just measures and weighs food to ensure I reach my calorie and macro goals each day?
Thank goodness that fad has passed - it's way too science-based, long term and reliable. I want my weight loss magic bullet, darn it!!0 -
This was my today's box.
This is for the whole day? Breakfast, lunch, dinner and snacks. Not a lot of food there and nothing really healthy for you, yes you can eat what ever you want, just stay in your deficit to lose weight. But this in no way is teaching you good eating habits. I suggest you educate yourself, so you can be the healthiest you can be. Lose the weight and keep it off.0 -
jofjltncb6 wrote: »You would be a good candidate for the cups measurements method of diet I saw advertized on TV ... it had various size containers that you prefilled with the food for the day and then you ate those. The containers were like, 2 cup, 1 cup, 1/2 cup, 1/4 cup.
I do something similar to curb overeating by using the plate method ... I have a 9" plate from an old dinnerware set from the days when plates were not the giants we have now-a-days ... and it gets divided visually into 4 parts ... 2 parts get non-starchy veggies, 1 part gets protein, 1 part gets starch carb and food is placed only up to the inside rim of the plate. I also have a rimmed soup bowl that holds about 2 cups of food ... and that is my measure for liquid or soft foods, like soup, spaghetti, chili, my breakfast porridge/fruit combo ....
.... Whatever floats your boat is the thing to do! Good Luck.
Am I the only person on MFP who still just measures and weighs food to ensure I reach my calorie and macro goals each day?
I think you are.
Clearly, for the plan of world domination you need to get the box.
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sustainable weightloss does not happened suddenly if you want to lose like 15kg in a week or 2 then cut off a leg or something if you want to lose weight safely and sustainably - i.e. to keep it off and maintain a healthy diet and lifestyle change then LISTEN to what everyone has been saying! eat more and eat better! I realise you are not likely in the UK but use the NHS weightloss website http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/weight-loss-guide/Pages/losing-weight-getting-started.aspx to give u an idea of what to eat - its a 12 week plan and I bet you will feel full and healthy with it, and the bmi calculator http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Pages/Healthyweightcalculator.aspx to work out how much calories you should eat in order to lose weight! and just so you know I followed this and lost 21lb in 2 1/2 months - its basically just counting calories which you can do with MFP but it will work as a good guide (similar to what everyone has been saying about macros, protein etc)
you have admitted that you feel weaker and not doing to well at the gym and you cant do your box diet in the long run - that makes it a fad by the very definition please read up on healthy diets - yes it may take longer to lose but will be much better for your body and will stay off for longer too!0
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