Box diet
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Shared this box meal with my DD today.
https://www.tacobell.com/food/combos/quesarito-box
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Fast vegetable day
After some two 1300 cal/days there is a fast vegetable day. Probably 500 cal/day. Approximately 1.5 kg total of tomatoes, cucumbers, pepper,onion and some dill.
You need help. Hopefully you will just starve after a few days and give up, but the fact you think what you are doing is good for you means you need professional help. 1300 calories days alternating with 500 calorie rabbit food days?0 -
Fast vegetable day
After some two 1300 cal/days there is a fast vegetable day. Probably 500 cal/day. Approximately 1.5 kg total of tomatoes, cucumbers, pepper,onion and some dill.
You need help. Hopefully you will just starve after a few days and give up, but the fact you think what you are doing is good for you means you need professional help. 1300 calories days alternating with 500 calorie rabbit food days?
2 days 1300 and 500 cals 1 day.
Previously like 2000 cal for a week.
Cal deficit of 1100 a day in the first two days and a fast day (cal deficit of 2000 ).0 -
Fast vegetable day
After some two 1300 cal/days there is a fast vegetable day. Probably 500 cal/day. Approximately 1.5 kg total of tomatoes, cucumbers, pepper,onion and some dill.
You need help. Hopefully you will just starve after a few days and give up, but the fact you think what you are doing is good for you means you need professional help. 1300 calories days alternating with 500 calorie rabbit food days?
It doesn't really call for professional help. The issue is not an eating disorder, but a very poor understanding of how safe and healthy diets work and refusal to learn about it.0 -
Fast vegetable day
After some two 1300 cal/days there is a fast vegetable day. Probably 500 cal/day. Approximately 1.5 kg total of tomatoes, cucumbers, pepper,onion and some dill.
You need help. Hopefully you will just starve after a few days and give up, but the fact you think what you are doing is good for you means you need professional help. 1300 calories days alternating with 500 calorie rabbit food days?
2 days 1300 and 500 cals 1 day.
Previously like 2000 cal for a week.
Cal deficit of 1100 a day in the first two days and a fast day (cal deficit of 2000 ). That's all
Recommended cal deficit to weight loss is 1k.
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tcatcarson wrote: »YEAH box diet!
If these were sugar-free gummies you could do a cleanse instead of a diet0 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »Fast vegetable day
After some two 1300 cal/days there is a fast vegetable day. Probably 500 cal/day. Approximately 1.5 kg total of tomatoes, cucumbers, pepper,onion and some dill.
You need help. Hopefully you will just starve after a few days and give up, but the fact you think what you are doing is good for you means you need professional help. 1300 calories days alternating with 500 calorie rabbit food days?
It doesn't really call for professional help. The issue is not an eating disorder, but a very poor understanding of how safe and healthy diets work and refusal to learn about it.
It's very questionable what you are saying.0 -
Fast vegetable day
After some two 1300 cal/days there is a fast vegetable day. Probably 500 cal/day. Approximately 1.5 kg total of tomatoes, cucumbers, pepper,onion and some dill.
You need help. Hopefully you will just starve after a few days and give up, but the fact you think what you are doing is good for you means you need professional help. 1300 calories days alternating with 500 calorie rabbit food days?
2 days 1300 and 500 cals 1 day.
Previously like 2000 cal for a week.
Cal deficit of 1100 a day in the first two days and a fast day (cal deficit of 2000 ). That's all
Recommended cal deficit to weight loss is 1k.
For a person who has a lot to lose 1k is an acceptable deficit, not for a person who is only trying to drop a few kilos. For someone with your stats the recommended deficit is 250-500, which can include exercise. Basically you can actually eat at maintenance, exercise for 300 calories a day and still lose weight.0 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »Fast vegetable day
After some two 1300 cal/days there is a fast vegetable day. Probably 500 cal/day. Approximately 1.5 kg total of tomatoes, cucumbers, pepper,onion and some dill.
You need help. Hopefully you will just starve after a few days and give up, but the fact you think what you are doing is good for you means you need professional help. 1300 calories days alternating with 500 calorie rabbit food days?
2 days 1300 and 500 cals 1 day.
Previously like 2000 cal for a week.
Cal deficit of 1100 a day in the first two days and a fast day (cal deficit of 2000 ). That's all
Recommended cal deficit to weight loss is 1k.
For a person who has a lot to lose 1k is an acceptable deficit, not for a person who is only trying to drop a few kilos. For someone with your stats the recommended deficit is 250-500, which can include exercise. Basically you can actually eat at maintenance, exercise for 300 calories a day and still lose weight.
Well,likely nothing bad will happen to a person who has 1k deficit for some days. I's been only 2 days with this deficit. I feel pretty ordinary, maybe because I am not too active now.0 -
Get a bigger box.
Include in that box lots more protein: eggs, beans, nuts, tuna, meat, broccoli, kale, seeds.
One month from now you want to be lighter AND feeling good AND feeling that you have found a good plan to follow.
Modify the plan that you have now so that at the end of each week you have consumed 12000 calories.0 -
Get a bigger box. Include in that box lots more protein: eggs, beans, nuts, tuna, meat, broccoli, kale, seeds.
One month from now you want to be lighter AND feeling good AND feeling that you have found a good plan to follow.
Modify the plan that you have now so that at the end of each week you have consumed 12000 calories.
Yep, I think I overdone today. Seems like 300 cal. Probably by tomorrow I won't be able to post anything to the forum with this salad. 0 -
Get a bigger box. Include in that box lots more protein: eggs, beans, nuts, tuna, meat, broccoli, kale, seeds.
One month from now you want to be lighter AND feeling good AND feeling that you have found a good plan to follow.
Modify the plan that you have now so that at the end of each week you have consumed 12000 calories.
Yep, I think I overdone today. Seems like 300 cal. Probably by tomorrow I won't be able to post anything to the forum with this salad. Going to get bigger box today.
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amusedmonkey wrote: »Fast vegetable day
After some two 1300 cal/days there is a fast vegetable day. Probably 500 cal/day. Approximately 1.5 kg total of tomatoes, cucumbers, pepper,onion and some dill.
You need help. Hopefully you will just starve after a few days and give up, but the fact you think what you are doing is good for you means you need professional help. 1300 calories days alternating with 500 calorie rabbit food days?
It doesn't really call for professional help. The issue is not an eating disorder, but a very poor understanding of how safe and healthy diets work and refusal to learn about it.
Where's the Troll Clinic?0 -
I call troll. No one is this obtuse.0
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Get a bigger box. Include in that box lots more protein: eggs, beans, nuts, tuna, meat, broccoli, kale, seeds.
One month from now you want to be lighter AND feeling good AND feeling that you have found a good plan to follow.
Modify the plan that you have now so that at the end of each week you have consumed 12000 calories.
Yep, I think I overdone today. Seems like 300 cal. Probably by tomorrow I won't be able to post anything to the forum with this salad.
You seriously need to get some protein in to your self. Your right that very short term this won't leave you long term damage but it sure isn't good for you.
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Fast vegetable day
After some two 1300 cal/days there is a fast vegetable day. Probably 500 cal/day. Approximately 1.5 kg total of tomatoes, cucumbers, pepper,onion and some dill.
You need help. Hopefully you will just starve after a few days and give up, but the fact you think what you are doing is good for you means you need professional help. 1300 calories days alternating with 500 calorie rabbit food days?
2 days 1300 and 500 cals 1 day.
Previously like 2000 cal for a week.
Cal deficit of 1100 a day in the first two days and a fast day (cal deficit of 2000 ).
I will try to speak simply and use easy maths for the purposefully obtuse
THIS IS NOT A HEALTHY APPROACH
You are eating 1550 a day but not hitting your macro nutrient nor micro nutrient needs
As a 30 year old male (did you post height and weight?) your TDEE let us assume probably around 2400, so your weekly calories in maintenance = 16800
To lose 1lb a week you need a defecit of 3500 = weekly goal of 13,300, daily goal of 1900
If you are doing intermittent fasting (500 calories) you need to hit maintenance TDEE on the other days
so 2 days x 500 plus 5 days at 2400
a box of salad is missing your fat and protein macros as well as other nutrients
a box of carbs is missing your fat and protein and vitamins and minerals requirements
If you want to invent your own diet, start with a basic understanding of nutritional requirements0 -
If you want to invent your own diet, start with a basic understanding of nutritional requirements
Let me think here, I am older and three cm shorter than the OP and just below his goal weight now...22lbs ago....that's early June!
Hmmm.... I could have saved myself a TON of money by following the box diet @rabbitjb .
I mean I've been spending money to feed a 2370 net Calories a day average when I could have just had a box instead!
He wants to drop 10kg at 1100+Cal a day deficit.
That's OK: he will drop 3-5kg of fat, 5-7kg of lean mass including muscle tissue.
And he will be 75kg and proud of himself.
Hey: at least he has the wine and chocolate macros covered.0 -
Fast vegetable day
After some two 1300 cal/days there is a fast vegetable day. Probably 500 cal/day. Approximately 1.5 kg total of tomatoes, cucumbers, pepper,onion and some dill.
So is this your only food for the day other than a few calories from outside? If so you are just making our point because this is even worse. You've got a great vegetable box but you are very lacking in overall calories, not to mention very little protein, and I'm not sure you've met iron and calcium requirements in either of your samples. Not sure why you are so obsessed with this box diet but I can't see any reason for anyone to do it.0 -
OP did you ever go enter your stats and goals into MFP to find out how many calories you should be eating in order to lose 1 lb/week?
You keep ignoring my comments that you should know your own maintenance calorie level so that you can determine an appropriate calorie deficit and instead just keep throwing out random statements about 1000 cal deficits and fast days at 500 cals.
You are undereating from both a total calorie and a macro nutrient balance, and people could not be more clear about that fact.
At this point I have to think that you are trolling us.0 -
If you want to invent your own diet, start with a basic understanding of nutritional requirements
Let me think here, I am older and three cm shorter than the OP and just below his goal weight now...22lbs ago....that's early June!
Hmmm.... I could have saved myself a TON of money by following the box diet @rabbitjb .
I mean I've been spending money to feed a 2370 net Calories a day average when I could have just had a box instead!
He wants to drop 10kg at 1100+Cal a day deficit.
That's OK: he will drop 3-5kg of fat, 5-7kg of lean mass including muscle tissue.
And he will be 75kg and proud of himself.
Hey: at least he has the wine and chocolate macros covered.
But he'll just be boxed in...
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Yesterday's box was real hard. Today it's time for some wine to recompense for it.
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Fast vegetable day
After some two 1300 cal/days there is a fast vegetable day. Probably 500 cal/day. Approximately 1.5 kg total of tomatoes, cucumbers, pepper,onion and some dill.
You need help. Hopefully you will just starve after a few days and give up, but the fact you think what you are doing is good for you means you need professional help. 1300 calories days alternating with 500 calorie rabbit food days?
2 days 1300 and 500 cals 1 day.
Previously like 2000 cal for a week.
Cal deficit of 1100 a day in the first two days and a fast day (cal deficit of 2000 ).
I will try to speak simply and use easy maths for the purposefully obtuse
THIS IS NOT A HEALTHY APPROACH
You are eating 1550 a day but not hitting your macro nutrient nor micro nutrient needs
As a 30 year old male (did you post height and weight?) your TDEE let us assume probably around 2400, so your weekly calories in maintenance = 16800
To lose 1lb a week you need a defecit of 3500 = weekly goal of 13,300, daily goal of 1900
If you are doing intermittent fasting (500 calories) you need to hit maintenance TDEE on the other days
so 2 days x 500 plus 5 days at 2400
a box of salad is missing your fat and protein macros as well as other nutrients
a box of carbs is missing your fat and protein and vitamins and minerals requirements
If you want to invent your own diet, start with a basic understanding of nutritional requirementsIf you want to invent your own diet, start with a basic understanding of nutritional requirements
Let me think here, I am older and three cm shorter than the OP and just below his goal weight now...22lbs ago....that's early June!
Hmmm.... I could have saved myself a TON of money by following the box diet @rabbitjb .
I mean I've been spending money to feed a 2370 net Calories a day average when I could have just had a box instead!
He wants to drop 10kg at 1100+Cal a day deficit.
That's OK: he will drop 3-5kg of fat, 5-7kg of lean mass including muscle tissue.
And he will be 75kg and proud of himself.
Hey: at least he has the wine and chocolate macros covered.
I have said multiple times that the box contents is changing daily. And the cal deficit is changing too accordingly.
Claims of sub-micro nutrition are downright wrong. We are talking elements intake over time. Get your numbers straight!0 -
Do you realise you are on a counting calorie site? Which give you the tools to count calories, instead of using the method you are using? Why not just post all this in facebook? Or create your own blog or other site promoting this diet? Or your box-building youtube videos? Just make sure to ask a good-looking half naked friend to help with the box presentation, and you might even gain followers.
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Fast vegetable day
After some two 1300 cal/days there is a fast vegetable day. Probably 500 cal/day. Approximately 1.5 kg total of tomatoes, cucumbers, pepper,onion and some dill.
You need help. Hopefully you will just starve after a few days and give up, but the fact you think what you are doing is good for you means you need professional help. 1300 calories days alternating with 500 calorie rabbit food days?
2 days 1300 and 500 cals 1 day.
Previously like 2000 cal for a week.
Cal deficit of 1100 a day in the first two days and a fast day (cal deficit of 2000 ).
I will try to speak simply and use easy maths for the purposefully obtuse
THIS IS NOT A HEALTHY APPROACH
You are eating 1550 a day but not hitting your macro nutrient nor micro nutrient needs
As a 30 year old male (did you post height and weight?) your TDEE let us assume probably around 2400, so your weekly calories in maintenance = 16800
To lose 1lb a week you need a defecit of 3500 = weekly goal of 13,300, daily goal of 1900
If you are doing intermittent fasting (500 calories) you need to hit maintenance TDEE on the other days
so 2 days x 500 plus 5 days at 2400
a box of salad is missing your fat and protein macros as well as other nutrients
a box of carbs is missing your fat and protein and vitamins and minerals requirements
If you want to invent your own diet, start with a basic understanding of nutritional requirementsIf you want to invent your own diet, start with a basic understanding of nutritional requirements
Let me think here, I am older and three cm shorter than the OP and just below his goal weight now...22lbs ago....that's early June!
Hmmm.... I could have saved myself a TON of money by following the box diet @rabbitjb .
I mean I've been spending money to feed a 2370 net Calories a day average when I could have just had a box instead!
He wants to drop 10kg at 1100+Cal a day deficit.
That's OK: he will drop 3-5kg of fat, 5-7kg of lean mass including muscle tissue.
And he will be 75kg and proud of himself.
Hey: at least he has the wine and chocolate macros covered.
I have said multiple times that the box contents is changing daily. And the cal deficit is changing too accordingly.
Claims of sub-micro nutrition are downright wrong. We are talking elements intake over time. Get your numbers straight!
Yeah .. no
You have posted a crackpot idea and illustrated it with nutritionally unsound pictures and thought processes and figures that are undereating for a man at your size
fine if you want to do it, nobody can stop you
but it is nutritionally unsound - just look at your protein intake - you know the building blocks for cell repair0 -
Valen004 should change his username to Boxman.
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Sorry ot tell you, and i hope you won't mind our critisism but if you follow this diet for more than a week your metabolism will slow down and you won't be able to lose the weight you wish.
and if you start eating again without the box all the weight you will have lost will get back on you.
II think you should read this http://training.eatmore2weighless.com/get-your-quick-start-guide/
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AndromahiPolychroniou wrote: »Sorry ot tell you, and i hope you won't mind our critisism but if you follow this diet for more than a week your metabolism will slow down and you won't be able to lose the weight you wish.
and if you start eating again without the box all the weight you will have lost will get back on you.
II think you should read this http://training.eatmore2weighless.com/get-your-quick-start-guide/
It's downright wrong. The box diet is not about 1200 cal/day or 300 cal/day or 2500 cal/ day.
It's not about fat-zero, carb-zero, protein-about, low-hyco and etc things.
It's about limiting your intake correctly. It's about getting your numbers add up to box calory values, not some other likely hugely miscalculated-by hundreds-percents value. Which does work out pretty well.
With the weight back... I might virtually guarantee that once any person start in-taking huge amounts of food (ordinarily several hundred percents off the recommended daily calorie inputs) he or she will gain fat mass and weight. It is better not to overeat by several hundreds percent the recommended values, than weight loss might be easier .0 -
AndromahiPolychroniou wrote: »Sorry ot tell you, and i hope you won't mind our critisism but if you follow this diet for more than a week your metabolism will slow down and you won't be able to lose the weight you wish.
and if you start eating again without the box all the weight you will have lost will get back on you.
II think you should read this http://training.eatmore2weighless.com/get-your-quick-start-guide/
It's downright wrong. The box diet is not about 1200 cal/day or 300 cal/day or 2500 cal/ day.
It's not about fat-zero, carb-zero, protein-about, low-hyco and etc things.
It's about limiting your intake correctly. It's about getting your numbers add up to box calory values, not some other likely hugely miscalculated-by hundreds-percents value. Which does work out pretty well.
No, it's about completely nonsensical, arbitrary rules and a refusal to see sense.0 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »AndromahiPolychroniou wrote: »Sorry ot tell you, and i hope you won't mind our critisism but if you follow this diet for more than a week your metabolism will slow down and you won't be able to lose the weight you wish.
and if you start eating again without the box all the weight you will have lost will get back on you.
II think you should read this http://training.eatmore2weighless.com/get-your-quick-start-guide/
It's downright wrong. The box diet is not about 1200 cal/day or 300 cal/day or 2500 cal/ day.
It's not about fat-zero, carb-zero, protein-about, low-hyco and etc things.
It's about limiting your intake correctly. It's about getting your numbers add up to box calory values, not some other likely hugely miscalculated-by hundreds-percents value. Which does work out pretty well.
No, it's about completely nonsensical, arbitrary rules and a refusal to see sense.
What you think is pretty irrelevant and downright wrong.0 -
AndromahiPolychroniou wrote: »Sorry ot tell you, and i hope you won't mind our critisism but if you follow this diet for more than a week your metabolism will slow down and you won't be able to lose the weight you wish.
and if you start eating again without the box all the weight you will have lost will get back on you.
II think you should read this http://training.eatmore2weighless.com/get-your-quick-start-guide/
It's downright wrong. The box diet is not about 1200 cal/day or 300 cal/day or 2500 cal/ day.
It's not about fat-zero, carb-zero, protein-about, low-hyco and etc things.
It's about limiting your intake correctly. It's about getting your numbers add up to box calory values, not some other likely hugely miscalculated-by hundreds-percents value. Which does work out pretty well.
With the weight back... I might virtually guarantee that once any person start in-taking huge amounts of food (ordinarily several hundred percents off the recommended daily calorie inputs) he or she will gain fat mass and weight. It is better not to overeat by several hundreds percent the recommended values, than weight loss might be easier .
But it doesn't do that!
That's the issue
You are working on volume not on nutritional values
what aren't you getting?0
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