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  • Annie_01
    Annie_01 Posts: 3,096 Member
    Valen004 wrote: »
    Annie_01 wrote: »
    I think that your plan could work...however...

    If what I see in the box is all you are eating it doesn't seem like enough. I also see no fruits/vegetables. Not that you have to eat them but they help to keep you full for very few calories plus healthy for you.

    Maybe not eating enough is why other types of diets have failed for you.

    The box contents is changing every day more or less. Sometimes I put veggies inside. Usually I eat a lot of veggies/fruits. I don't think that I have not eaten enough with other diets. It seems to me that I have eaten too much with other diets.
    Valen004 wrote: »
    Annie_01 wrote: »
    I think that your plan could work...however...

    If what I see in the box is all you are eating it doesn't seem like enough. I also see no fruits/vegetables. Not that you have to eat them but they help to keep you full for very few calories plus healthy for you.

    Maybe not eating enough is why other types of diets have failed for you.

    The box contents is changing every day more or less. Sometimes I put veggies inside. Usually I eat a lot of veggies/fruits. I don't think that I have not eaten enough with other diets. It seems to me that I have eaten too much with other diets.

    What is in that box is not enough for a 30 y/o male.

    How much weight do you have to lose?
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    Valen004 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    I am in the camp of not really understanding how this is different than just planning out what you eat for the day and then sticking with that. You said you haven't really tried MFP yet OP, but yet, here you are...

    Maybe before trying out the box you should try entering your stats and goals into MFP, letting it calculate an appropriate deficit for you, eating foods that you enjoy (in or out of the box), logging everything accurately and honestly, and aiming to eat a balanced, nutrient dense diet?

    Or basically, all of this..

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1235566/so-youre-new-here/p1

    I don't say other methods don't work . They very well may work.
    The box is not really different from just plain planning. However I suspect that with planning it is easier to get off the plan. With the box you are sure what you are doing. You don't really need to think a lot. So you have a lot of control I think.

    But how do you know that the foods you are putting in the box are the appropriate number of calories and providing you adequate nutrition. The contents of that box, if it is indeed one days worth of food, would certainly not be enough for me and I'm a petite female. What are you goals OP? Lose weight? How much? Have you tried entering the foods in the box into the MFP database to see how many calories it provides, and whether or not it leaves you short in particular areas? Is that really all you are going to eat today? Aren't you hungry?
  • Valen004
    Valen004 Posts: 66 Member
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    I am in the camp of not really understanding how this is different than just planning out what you eat for the day and then sticking with that. You said you haven't really tried MFP yet OP, but yet, here you are...

    Maybe before trying out the box you should try entering your stats and goals into MFP, letting it calculate an appropriate deficit for you, eating foods that you enjoy (in or out of the box), logging everything accurately and honestly, and aiming to eat a balanced, nutrient dense diet?

    Or basically, all of this..

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1235566/so-youre-new-here/p1

    I don't say other methods don't work . They very well may work.
    The box is not really different from just plain planning. However I suspect that with planning it is easier to get off the plan. With the box you are sure what you are doing. You don't really need to think a lot. So you have a lot of control I think.

    But how do you know that the foods you are putting in the box are the appropriate number of calories and providing you adequate nutrition. The contents of that box, if it is indeed one days worth of food, would certainly not be enough for me and I'm a petite female. What are you goals OP? Lose weight? How much? Have you tried entering the foods in the box into the MFP database to see how many calories it provides, and whether or not it leaves you short in particular areas? Is that really all you are going to eat today? Aren't you hungry?

    With the box it's difficult not to be hungry. I am hungry, but tolerably so. No very-very hungry.
  • Valen004
    Valen004 Posts: 66 Member
    Annie_01 wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    Annie_01 wrote: »
    I think that your plan could work...however...

    If what I see in the box is all you are eating it doesn't seem like enough. I also see no fruits/vegetables. Not that you have to eat them but they help to keep you full for very few calories plus healthy for you.

    Maybe not eating enough is why other types of diets have failed for you.

    The box contents is changing every day more or less. Sometimes I put veggies inside. Usually I eat a lot of veggies/fruits. I don't think that I have not eaten enough with other diets. It seems to me that I have eaten too much with other diets.
    Valen004 wrote: »
    Annie_01 wrote: »
    I think that your plan could work...however...

    If what I see in the box is all you are eating it doesn't seem like enough. I also see no fruits/vegetables. Not that you have to eat them but they help to keep you full for very few calories plus healthy for you.

    Maybe not eating enough is why other types of diets have failed for you.

    The box contents is changing every day more or less. Sometimes I put veggies inside. Usually I eat a lot of veggies/fruits. I don't think that I have not eaten enough with other diets. It seems to me that I have eaten too much with other diets.

    What is in that box is not enough for a 30 y/o male.

    How much weight do you have to lose?

    I would like to shed off 25 pounds. I don't say that I have a lot in the box, but I want to lose weight, not to put on some.
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    Valen004 wrote: »
    This was my today's box. :)

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    Please tell me that's one meal not the whole day??

    I thought the same thing. What's that? 800 calories maybe?
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    Annie_01 wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    Annie_01 wrote: »
    I think that your plan could work...however...

    If what I see in the box is all you are eating it doesn't seem like enough. I also see no fruits/vegetables. Not that you have to eat them but they help to keep you full for very few calories plus healthy for you.

    Maybe not eating enough is why other types of diets have failed for you.

    The box contents is changing every day more or less. Sometimes I put veggies inside. Usually I eat a lot of veggies/fruits. I don't think that I have not eaten enough with other diets. It seems to me that I have eaten too much with other diets.
    Valen004 wrote: »
    Annie_01 wrote: »
    I think that your plan could work...however...

    If what I see in the box is all you are eating it doesn't seem like enough. I also see no fruits/vegetables. Not that you have to eat them but they help to keep you full for very few calories plus healthy for you.

    Maybe not eating enough is why other types of diets have failed for you.

    The box contents is changing every day more or less. Sometimes I put veggies inside. Usually I eat a lot of veggies/fruits. I don't think that I have not eaten enough with other diets. It seems to me that I have eaten too much with other diets.

    What is in that box is not enough for a 30 y/o male.

    How much weight do you have to lose?

    I just want to reiterate the bold...

    If that's really your whole day, this is a bad idea and the recipe to a quick burn out.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Valen004 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    why don't you just pre log all your calories on MFP and only eat those...????

    I think it's the same, but it is easier to pull it off with the box than with some program. But I haven't really tried MFP yet.

    if you have not tried MFP then how do you know it is easier?

    I would think pre logging and knowing your calories for the day would be easier than just having random items in a box....

    but that is just my two cents....
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    Valen004 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    I am in the camp of not really understanding how this is different than just planning out what you eat for the day and then sticking with that. You said you haven't really tried MFP yet OP, but yet, here you are...

    Maybe before trying out the box you should try entering your stats and goals into MFP, letting it calculate an appropriate deficit for you, eating foods that you enjoy (in or out of the box), logging everything accurately and honestly, and aiming to eat a balanced, nutrient dense diet?

    Or basically, all of this..

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1235566/so-youre-new-here/p1

    I don't say other methods don't work . They very well may work.
    The box is not really different from just plain planning. However I suspect that with planning it is easier to get off the plan. With the box you are sure what you are doing. You don't really need to think a lot. So you have a lot of control I think.

    But how do you know that the foods you are putting in the box are the appropriate number of calories and providing you adequate nutrition. The contents of that box, if it is indeed one days worth of food, would certainly not be enough for me and I'm a petite female. What are you goals OP? Lose weight? How much? Have you tried entering the foods in the box into the MFP database to see how many calories it provides, and whether or not it leaves you short in particular areas? Is that really all you are going to eat today? Aren't you hungry?

    With the box it's difficult not to be hungry. I am hungry, but tolerably so. No very-very hungry.

    The amount of food in that box is not enough for a 30 year old male. I strongly suggest you read the helpful posts in the various forum sections and try logging the foods you have in the box into the database. Drastically cutting calories in the name of some arbitrary restriction you are putting on yourself will likely lead to negative consequences. With 25 lbs to lose you should have yourself set at a 1lb or 0.5 lb/week deficit. That is only 250-500 calories below your maintenance level. You haven't said if you are exercising but the minimum intake recommended for men is 1800 calories, and you probably can eat considerably more than that and still reach your goals. The amount in that box is probably less than 1000 calories.
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    Valen004 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    This was my today's box. :)

    mfrnfsibz629.jpg
    bp76el5gd37y.jpg

    Please tell me that's one meal not the whole day??

    This. I don't understand. What is that? Hummus, plain noodles, pita bread, artificial crab meat, and one pepper?

    This is whole day. Not one meal. One box=one day.
    Plus I drink like 0.2 liters of white wine a day.


    You would be better to move from the gimmickie box to prelogging and finding a reasonable level of calories. I don't see a lot of micronutruient variety either so you might be doing your health a disservice in the long run.
  • Valen004
    Valen004 Posts: 66 Member
    Valen004 wrote: »
    This was my today's box. :)

    mfrnfsibz629.jpg
    bp76el5gd37y.jpg

    Please tell me that's one meal not the whole day??

    I thought the same thing. What's that? 800 calories maybe?

    I didn't count this up today. But today's box is really small, and without chocolate bars that I eat every day.
    Maybe it's 800 calories. Plus some wine it would be 1000 calories. But that's really low that I eat today.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Valen004 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    This was my today's box. :)

    mfrnfsibz629.jpg
    bp76el5gd37y.jpg

    Please tell me that's one meal not the whole day??

    This. I don't understand. What is that? Hummus, plain noodles, pita bread, artificial crab meat, and one pepper?

    This is whole day. Not one meal. One box=one day.
    Plus I drink like 0.2 liters of white wine a day.

    that box has like 500 calories in it...

    this is really not a sustainable or long term solution OP
  • Valen004
    Valen004 Posts: 66 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    This was my today's box. :)

    mfrnfsibz629.jpg
    bp76el5gd37y.jpg

    Please tell me that's one meal not the whole day??

    This. I don't understand. What is that? Hummus, plain noodles, pita bread, artificial crab meat, and one pepper?

    This is whole day. Not one meal. One box=one day.
    Plus I drink like 0.2 liters of white wine a day.

    that box has like 500 calories in it...

    this is really not a sustainable or long term solution OP

    It's not meant to be long-term. It's just my today's box.
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    Valen004 wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    This was my today's box. :)

    mfrnfsibz629.jpg
    bp76el5gd37y.jpg

    Please tell me that's one meal not the whole day??

    I thought the same thing. What's that? 800 calories maybe?

    I didn't count this up today. But today's box is really small, and without chocolate bars that I eat every day.
    Maybe it's 800 calories. Plus some wine it would be 1000 calories. But that's really low that I eat today.

    If you are normally having more vegetables than you would be even lower on most days. This doesn't look like a great idea to me. Where did you find it?
  • Valen004
    Valen004 Posts: 66 Member
    edited February 2016
    Valen004 wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    This was my today's box. :)

    mfrnfsibz629.jpg
    bp76el5gd37y.jpg

    Please tell me that's one meal not the whole day??

    I thought the same thing. What's that? 800 calories maybe?

    I didn't count this up today. But today's box is really small, and without chocolate bars that I eat every day.
    Maybe it's 800 calories. Plus some wine it would be 1000 calories. But that's really low that I eat today.

    If you are normally having more vegetables than you would be even lower on most days. This doesn't look like a great idea to me. Where did you find it?

    Usually I eat tons of fruits and veggies. Tons of them .
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    Valen004 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    This was my today's box. :)

    mfrnfsibz629.jpg
    bp76el5gd37y.jpg

    Please tell me that's one meal not the whole day??

    This. I don't understand. What is that? Hummus, plain noodles, pita bread, artificial crab meat, and one pepper?

    This is whole day. Not one meal. One box=one day.
    Plus I drink like 0.2 liters of white wine a day.

    that box has like 500 calories in it...

    this is really not a sustainable or long term solution OP

    It's not meant to be long-term. It's just my today's box.

    He meant that if your "boxes" look anything like today's does, the entire plan isn't a sustainable solution. From what I'm seeing, it's not. "Today's box" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    OP are you understanding what we are saying?

    As a 30 year old male, you need to eat more calories total, and need to have more balance/variety in there if you want to do this in a healthy, sustainable way. Supplementing the missing calories with chocolate bars and wine may not be the smartest idea. Getting it up to 1000 calories is still far below the recommended minimum for a man.
  • Ready2Rock206
    Ready2Rock206 Posts: 9,487 Member
    Yikes! That's a tiny amount of food for a grown man. I think I'll pass on your ultra restrictive box idea.
  • joolsmd
    joolsmd Posts: 375 Member
    I'm on a fast day today and I've eaten more than that! :o
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Valen004 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    This was my today's box. :)

    mfrnfsibz629.jpg
    bp76el5gd37y.jpg

    Please tell me that's one meal not the whole day??

    This. I don't understand. What is that? Hummus, plain noodles, pita bread, artificial crab meat, and one pepper?

    This is whole day. Not one meal. One box=one day.
    Plus I drink like 0.2 liters of white wine a day.

    that box has like 500 calories in it...

    this is really not a sustainable or long term solution OP

    It's not meant to be long-term. It's just my today's box.

    Ok - then what is your long term plan to lose, and keep off, the 25 pounds that you want to lose? Are you really just going to put together a box every day for the next ten years?
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    Valen004 wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    This was my today's box. :)

    mfrnfsibz629.jpg
    bp76el5gd37y.jpg

    Please tell me that's one meal not the whole day??

    I thought the same thing. What's that? 800 calories maybe?

    I didn't count this up today. But today's box is really small, and without chocolate bars that I eat every day.
    Maybe it's 800 calories. Plus some wine it would be 1000 calories. But that's really low that I eat today.

    If you are normally having more vegetables than you would be even lower on most days. This doesn't look like a great idea to me. Where did you find it?

    Usually I eat tons of fruits and veggies. Tons of them .

    How are you planning on fitting tonnes of veg in that tiny box????
  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
    What a sad day :(

    OP I really don't think you're understanding what people are trying to tell you, at all.
  • Annie_01
    Annie_01 Posts: 3,096 Member
    Valen004 wrote: »
    Annie_01 wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    Annie_01 wrote: »
    I think that your plan could work...however...

    If what I see in the box is all you are eating it doesn't seem like enough. I also see no fruits/vegetables. Not that you have to eat them but they help to keep you full for very few calories plus healthy for you.

    Maybe not eating enough is why other types of diets have failed for you.

    The box contents is changing every day more or less. Sometimes I put veggies inside. Usually I eat a lot of veggies/fruits. I don't think that I have not eaten enough with other diets. It seems to me that I have eaten too much with other diets.
    Valen004 wrote: »
    Annie_01 wrote: »
    I think that your plan could work...however...

    If what I see in the box is all you are eating it doesn't seem like enough. I also see no fruits/vegetables. Not that you have to eat them but they help to keep you full for very few calories plus healthy for you.

    Maybe not eating enough is why other types of diets have failed for you.

    The box contents is changing every day more or less. Sometimes I put veggies inside. Usually I eat a lot of veggies/fruits. I don't think that I have not eaten enough with other diets. It seems to me that I have eaten too much with other diets.

    What is in that box is not enough for a 30 y/o male.

    How much weight do you have to lose?

    I would like to shed off 25 pounds. I don't say that I have a lot in the box, but I want to lose weight, not to put on some.

    Okay...you and I have about the same amount of weight left to lose...the difference is...

    I am a 63 y/o woman that eats 1500 calories a day. I also am okay with it taking me the rest of this year to lose it.

    When I was at my heaviest I could easily lose 2lbs a week. As I have lost weight the amount that I could lose also went down. Now I am down to losing 2-3lbs a month. To lose faster than that I would have to restrict my calories to around 800 calories a day. It is not worth it to me to put my health at risk.

    You are an adult however and have to make these choices for yourself.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Valen004 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    This was my today's box. :)

    mfrnfsibz629.jpg
    bp76el5gd37y.jpg

    Please tell me that's one meal not the whole day??

    This. I don't understand. What is that? Hummus, plain noodles, pita bread, artificial crab meat, and one pepper?

    This is whole day. Not one meal. One box=one day.
    Plus I drink like 0.2 liters of white wine a day.

    This is one day worth of food???????

    This is not a good thing. Not at all unless you're 2 feet tall.
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    edited February 2016
    Ninkyou wrote: »
    What size box? I mean, I could get a large appliance box and fill it with food but I won't lose weight. This diet could be exploited in so many ways and isn't really teaching much in the way of nutrition.

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    Note: Do not eat the children
  • engodwin
    engodwin Posts: 516 Member
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Valen004 wrote: »
    This was my today's box. :)

    mfrnfsibz629.jpg
    bp76el5gd37y.jpg

    Please tell me that's one meal not the whole day??

    This. I don't understand. What is that? Hummus, plain noodles, pita bread, artificial crab meat, and one pepper?

    This is whole day. Not one meal. One box=one day.
    Plus I drink like 0.2 liters of white wine a day.

    This is one day worth of food???????

    This is not a good thing. Not at all unless you're 2 feet tall.

    This made me LOL
  • deluxmary2000
    deluxmary2000 Posts: 981 Member
    Ninkyou wrote: »
    What size box? I mean, I could get a large appliance box and fill it with food but I won't lose weight. This diet could be exploited in so many ways and isn't really teaching much in the way of nutrition.

    DSC_0305.JPG

    Which is breakfast, which is lunch, and which is dinner?
  • kommodevaran
    kommodevaran Posts: 17,890 Member
    Ninkyou wrote: »
    What size box? I mean, I could get a large appliance box and fill it with food but I won't lose weight. This diet could be exploited in so many ways and isn't really teaching much in the way of nutrition.

    DSC_0305.JPG

    Note: Do not eat the children

    Darn. I was already thinking "yummy children".
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    Ninkyou wrote: »
    What size box? I mean, I could get a large appliance box and fill it with food but I won't lose weight. This diet could be exploited in so many ways and isn't really teaching much in the way of nutrition.

    DSC_0305.JPG

    Note: Do not eat the children

    Darn. I was already thinking "yummy children".

    Taste like chicken don't they??
  • kommodevaran
    kommodevaran Posts: 17,890 Member
    Ninkyou wrote: »
    What size box? I mean, I could get a large appliance box and fill it with food but I won't lose weight. This diet could be exploited in so many ways and isn't really teaching much in the way of nutrition.

    DSC_0305.JPG

    Note: Do not eat the children

    Darn. I was already thinking "yummy children".

    Taste like chicken don't they??

    Right!? And the words look almost identical, if you turn your head quickly :D
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    Valen004 wrote: »
    What's in the box?!!!

    Food! Usually some eggs, some tomato/cucumber salads, pasta, pepper, and chocolate. It depends on my mood largely what I put inside.

    Perhaps you could make green eggs and ham?
    Then you could eat from boxes
    with foxes.
    You could eat on train
    or in the rain.

    You could use MFP to pre-log
    you could exercise with calorie burning zig-a-zog
    You could track your macros
    You could exercise with a yoga pose
    Tracking your nutrition is so good you see
    Just count calories and you'll feel free