Eating clean? What does it really mean?
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When I need to replenish my glycogen stores quickly, I feel GREAT after a candy bar...but that's just me...0
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i think eating clean only really matters if you have serious fitness goals. as long as you are on you calorie controlled method then it doeesnt really matter what you eat, as long as you get the right amount of calories.
I disagree with that ^^^^^ So I have serious goal but I est a lot of processed foods and sugar. Will I fail to meet my goals?
Maybe we can finally get the answer to the elusive question, what is clean eating?
do Olympians eat at McDonalds?
Let's ask Michael Phelps.
well then maybe its just the american ones, ive never heard of jess ennis or mo farah eating there. anyway, i just wrote what works for me. i didnt know that was a crime here.0 -
sorry but i have to disagree with this, i know for a fact that when i eat junk i feel down, fat and tired. and my run time is atleast 30-60 seconds off my usual pace. after 2 weeks eating fresh good food i immediately dropped over 1 min of my 1.5mile time and 4 mins off my 5km. my body and skin look so much more healthy and i feel fantastic. im not saying i dont eat junk occasionally because i do and have just had kfc tonight. but i do think better results will be obtain if you do cut junk
i only feel that way if i eat to much of the junk food(over the serving size) heck i even feel that way if i eat to much salad. ....... but thats just me......
I called it instead of eating "clean" just eat "smart" ppl know how much is to much. Just put the fork down.0 -
i think eating clean only really matters if you have serious fitness goals. as long as you are on you calorie controlled method then it doeesnt really matter what you eat, as long as you get the right amount of calories.
I disagree with that ^^^^^ So I have serious goal but I est a lot of processed foods and sugar. Will I fail to meet my goals?
Maybe we can finally get the answer to the elusive question, what is clean eating?
do Olympians eat at McDonalds?
Let's ask Michael Phelps.
well then maybe its just the american ones, ive never heard of jess ennis or mo farah eating there. anyway, i just wrote what works for me. i didnt know that was a crime here.
Not a crime, but it's also not a crime for people to disagree with you.0 -
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There's nothing wrong with an individual limiting aspects of their diet, based on any number of criteria (even that which appears arbitrary to others). There are foods some eat (or don't) based on taste, and some decisions are even based on what the individual perceives (whether incorrectly or not) as health benefits.
I'm not too concerned about whether I eat too much sugar, or how much "junk" food I eat, as long as it fits into my caloric goals and offers (in my biased opinion) a reasonable amount of nutrition.
I also eat such things as ice cream and Pop Tarts, although they don't particularly excite me to the point of posting pics of them. Perhaps that's because I'm not as fascinated by them as others are (I only had 40lbs to lose, so that may have something to do with it).0 -
Hi OP,
Eating clean means different things to different people. You mentioned that you don't eat processed foods, but all foods are processed to some extent. The simplest definition of clean eating I know means eating foods that are as minimally processed as possible. For me, clean eating is an ideal, not a reality. I know it's easiest for me to meet my goals when I eat as many whole foods as possible and limit foods that are more processed. I also do better when I cook my own food. I don't know if it's psychological, physiological, or both. But for weight loss, it doesn't matter what you eat, as long as you hit your targets. I aspire for "clean" because it's easier for me to stick to it and meet my targets. I cannot eat whole foods and not track. I can easily put away tons of fruits, nuts, and seeds without batting an eye and go over my calories.
You don't need to stop eating anything you enjoy to lose those last 5 lbs. You can keep your wine, your chocolate. You can keep potatoes. You are much closer to home when you suggest that you need to be more aware of what you are eating. Can you cook with your husband and then weigh or measure your portions?
However, given that you are a healthy and light weight, it may be easier on you to focus on your strength goals and not change your eating habits.0 -
Interesting that someone mentioned athletes, I just read this the other day:
"The American Dietetic Association, Dietitians of Canada, and the American College of Sports Medicine all think that clean eating is unrealistic and unneccessary too:
"Athletes should not deprive themselves of favorite foods or set unrealistic dietary rules or guidelines. Instead, dietary goals should be *flexible* and achievable. Athletes should remember that all foods can fit into a healthful lifestyle. Developing list of "good" and "bad" foods is discouraged."
Reference:
1. Rodriguez NR, Di Marco NM, Langley S. American College of Sports Medicine position stand. Nutrition and athletic performance. Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2009;41(3):709–731. Available at: http://www.scandpg.org/local/resources/files/2010/PP_NutritionAthleticPerformance.pdf."0 -
"Clean" means whatever a person *needs* it to mean in order for them to feel superior about their food choices...
It is laughable to see just how junk filled some of the diaries of the clean eaters are.
Well it WOULD be, but most of their diaries are closed...
True... Most are closed but I have found a few open (mostly those who private messagee about how I can't possible be as healthy as they are). This is how I learned that boxed cereals, protein powder and meal replacements are "clean"0 -
If people state they would like to live a clean lifestyle or keep a clean house, people think that's great. Mention that you want to eat clean, and it creates a *kitten* storm? Why is that?
My concept of clean eating is consuming high quality food in reasonable portions. By high quality, I mean having high nutritional content as well as high food integrity standards (organic, natural, and or minimally processed / un-processed). Striving toward these standards should be the goal, even though it is understood that eating clean 100% (or even 80-90%) of the time is often impossible in the same way that keeping your house or car clean 100% of the time is unrealistic.0 -
Dip food in bleach.
Good luck. 0 -
Mayhaps they aren't as confident in their approach as they scream to be.If people state they would like to live a clean lifestyle or keep a clean house, people think that's great. Mention that you want to eat clean, and it creates a *kitten* storm? Why is that?
My concept of clean eating is consuming high quality food in reasonable portions. By high quality, I mean having high nutritional content as well as high food integrity standards (organic, natural, and or minimally processed / un-processed). Striving toward these standards should be the goal, even though it is understood that eating clean 100% (or even 80-90%) of the time is often impossible in the same way that keeping your house or car clean 100% of the time is unrealistic.
I wonder: does anyone argue with your definition of a clean house? I bet it's not the same as mine.:flowerforyou:0 -
This post seems pretty "superior" to me... perhaps it's catching."Clean" means whatever a person *needs* it to mean in order for them to feel superior about their food choices...
It is laughable to see just how junk filled some of the diaries of the clean eaters are.0 -
I wonder: does anyone argue with your definition of a clean house? I bet it's not the same as mine.:flowerforyou:
I imagine that people would indeed argue with my definition of "a clean house" if I told them that their internet would be faster if they maintained a "clean house."0 -
bwahaha you're a witty tyke, aren't ya.:laugh:I wonder: does anyone argue with your definition of a clean house? I bet it's not the same as mine.:flowerforyou:
I imagine that people would indeed argue with my definition of "a clean house" if I told them that their internet would be faster if they maintained a "clean house."
yup, I think there's a tad too much protest about the dietary choices of others going on.:laugh:0 -
bwahaha you're a witty tyke, aren't ya.:laugh:I wonder: does anyone argue with your definition of a clean house? I bet it's not the same as mine.:flowerforyou:
I imagine that people would indeed argue with my definition of "a clean house" if I told them that their internet would be faster if they maintained a "clean house."
yup, I think there's a tad too much protest about the dietary choices of others going on.:laugh:
No one is protesting the dietary choices of others. No one cares what you eat.
What people are arguing against is the idea that "clean eating" is inherently beneficial or necessary.
You guys never seem to understand that.0 -
We understand that YOU believe that. Yes.
bwahaha you're a witty tyke, aren't ya.:laugh:I wonder: does anyone argue with your definition of a clean house? I bet it's not the same as mine.:flowerforyou:
I imagine that people would indeed argue with my definition of "a clean house" if I told them that their internet would be faster if they maintained a "clean house."
yup, I think there's a tad too much protest about the dietary choices of others going on.:laugh:
No one is protesting the dietary choices of others. No one cares what you eat.
What people are arguing against is the idea that "clean eating" is inherently beneficial or necessary.
You guys never seem to understand that.
cheers johnny:drinker:
Ill be having wine tonight. Care to mock that again?
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We understand that YOU believe that. Yes.
bwahaha you're a witty tyke, aren't ya.:laugh:I wonder: does anyone argue with your definition of a clean house? I bet it's not the same as mine.:flowerforyou:
I imagine that people would indeed argue with my definition of "a clean house" if I told them that their internet would be faster if they maintained a "clean house."
yup, I think there's a tad too much protest about the dietary choices of others going on.:laugh:
No one is protesting the dietary choices of others. No one cares what you eat.
What people are arguing against is the idea that "clean eating" is inherently beneficial or necessary.
You guys never seem to understand that.
cheers johnny:drinker:
This is nonsensical.
Eat whatever you want. That's the entire idea. If you want to eat what you consider "clean," that's fine. if you want to eat McDonald's, that's fine too.
Saying that I, or any of the people who criticize you, are attacking the dietary choices of others is completely ridiculous and counterfactual. It belies a complete inability to even understand what the people around you are saying.
It's literally the clean eaters who criticize the food choices of others. They are the ones who say not to eat certain things.
No one says don't eat clean. No one criticizes "clean food." People criticize the claims that clean eaters make to try to force other people to eat "clean."0 -
OP: join one of the clean eating groups. Folks there will answer your questions.
Here you'll just end up with an off topic, and likely locked, thread.
For some reason the phrase "clean eating" makes folks quite edgy. It brings out the folks who are sanctimonious about folks they deem "sanctimonious".
Best of luck with your 5LB loss!
^This... I couldnt agree more. you will find some pretty nasty and rude ppl on the forums0 -
Ill be having wine tonight. Care to mock that again?
I didn't say anything about wine. You can't even keep who said what straight. That says a lot about you, I think.0 -
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OP: join one of the clean eating groups. Folks there will answer your questions.
Here you'll just end up with an off topic, and likely locked, thread.
For some reason the phrase "clean eating" makes folks quite edgy. It brings out the folks who are sanctimonious about folks they deem "sanctimonious".
Best of luck with your 5LB loss!
^This... I couldnt agree more. you will find some pretty nasty and rude ppl on the forums
You think so? I would say it's rude and nasty to call other people rude and nasty, but then I'd be rude and nasty, too. ... Hm.0 -
It means persons glorifying such a ludicrous term are about as pretentious as they come (in my experience).
Ummmmm. I have a feeling that this won't end well. Not ending well!0 -
It depends.
If you ask a bodybuilding what eating clean means, it is going to mean something different than if you ask a natural health practitioner.
If you check out Oxygen Magazine on-line (a magazine for women into weight training) you'll find lots of articles on eating clean which include meats, dairy and grains. Tosca Reno, who is featured, even has a cookbook of clean recipes.
For me, eating clean is eating food which is as minimally processed as possible. I eat vegetables, fruits, grains which are nongluten, almond milk, a little soy. Once a week when DH and I have "date night" I'll indulge with some pizza or pasta.
Do you have to "eat clean", by whatever definition to lose weight?
I don't think so. People lose weight on Pop Tarts and Diet Coke. I eat clean because by doing so I lose weight, I feel fantastic, I'm seldom sick and when I get a cold or something similar, it is over in a day or two. Plus, I'm never hungry. It is much harder to overindulge on, e.g., apples than it is apple fritters.
GL whatever you chose.0 -
your most likely underestimating your husbands home cooked meals.. he is probably not worried about calories or measuring things he puts into the food, thus your getting extra calories that way. Just my guess.
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"Clean" means whatever a person *needs* it to mean in order for them to feel superior about their food choices...
It is laughable to see just how junk filled some of the diaries of the clean eaters are.
I don’t think that “clean eating” people are fanatics claiming to eat a diet with absolutely no “unclean” food whatsoever (at least I’m not). Unless the person is in a cult or institutionalized, “unclean” food is going to be a part of their diet.
Clean eating is a goal, like any other health and fitness goals people have (albeit more subjective). Mastering the calorie counting and the macros juggling doesn't take that much effort once you get the hang of it (log food, monitor balance). So what do you do to improve nutrition once you are IIFYM compliant? If nothing, that’s great, I can respect that; but if you are the sort of person that constantly needs a challenge, attempting to eat “clean” food as often as possible keeps things interesting.
Plus it is good for you. Yes I said it, flame away!0 -
"Clean" means whatever a person *needs* it to mean in order for them to feel superior about their food choices...
It is laughable to see just how junk filled some of the diaries of the clean eaters are.
I don’t think that “clean eating” people are fanatics claiming to eat a diet with absolutely no “unclean” food whatsoever (at least I’m not). Unless the person is in a cult or institutionalized, “unclean” food is going to be a part of their diet.
Clean eating is a goal, like any other health and fitness goals people have (albeit more subjective). Mastering the calorie counting and the macros juggling doesn't take that much effort once you get the hang of it (log food, monitor balance). So what do you do to improve nutrition once you are IIFYM compliant? If nothing, that’s great, I can respect that; but if you are the sort of person that constantly needs a challenge, attempting to eat “clean” food as often as possible keeps things interesting.
Plus it is good for you. Yes I said it, flame away!
Well stated.
I think the problem with you "clean eating" folks is just that you need better marketing.
It's hard to compete with a pic showing someone shoving greasy food into their mouth.0 -
90/10 or 80/20 eating clean (whatever hell that means) or IIFYM with mostly whole foods is the same effing thing...just arrived at with 2 different ideologies (IMO).
There's inclusionary thinking (IIFYM) and exclusioniary (certain foods are bad and must be avoided, although it's ok to have a little after I've not eaten bad for most of my food).
Obviously I'm an inclusionary thinker.
I think considering what I need out of my food, and if i get it not really caring what i eat then, is the healthiest way to go about it. No food is an absolute no, and I'm constantly thinking about what I need to eat, not what food I need to avoid.
I think thinking of food and nutrition should be inclusionary.
I consider inclusionary thinking "healthier" because of what most do when they fail at something and get frustrated...which is give up.0 -
"Clean" means whatever a person *needs* it to mean in order for them to feel superior about their food choices...
It is laughable to see just how junk filled some of the diaries of the clean eaters are.
I don’t think that “clean eating” people are fanatics claiming to eat a diet with absolutely no “unclean” food whatsoever (at least I’m not). Unless the person is in a cult or institutionalized, “unclean” food is going to be a part of their diet.
Clean eating is a goal, like any other health and fitness goals people have (albeit more subjective). Mastering the calorie counting and the macros juggling doesn't take that much effort once you get the hang of it (log food, monitor balance). So what do you do to improve nutrition once you are IIFYM compliant? If nothing, that’s great, I can respect that; but if you are the sort of person that constantly needs a challenge, attempting to eat “clean” food as often as possible keeps things interesting.
Plus it is good for you. Yes I said it, flame away!
Well stated.
I think the problem with you "clean eating" folks is just that you need better marketing.
It's hard to compete with a pic showing someone shoving greasy food into their mouth.
Why you would even want to compete with it is beyond me.
Delicious food is delicious, and telling people they're not allowed to have delicious food they love because it's not "clean" is madness.0
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