Eating clean? What does it really mean?
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You don't know why smart *kitten* refers to brainy burro? Seriously? give it a minute... lol
Actually, yes, the entire thread was mocking folks who avoid sugar "the sugarphobes" as you got off on calling them who drink wine...
It's an odd obsession of yours: the eating habits of others, perhaps it's how you're slimming down: by vicariously obsessing about others' foods.
Do you honestly expect other people on MFP to keep track of what your pet names for other posters are? I hardly even know who Brainy_Burro is. (S)he isn't on my friends list.
That's crazy.
Anyway, I don't care what other people eat. What I care about is people like you lying to others by telling them they need to eat "clean".0 -
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This **** happens on organic vegan restaurants too
It has yet to happen in my kitchen.
Can you make us tacos, then?0 -
This **** happens on organic vegan restaurants too
It has yet to happen in my kitchen.
OK. So "clean" is anything at all you prepare yourself? Is a donut bacon cheeseburger you make in your own kitchen just fine, then?0 -
I worked at KFC as a young adult (and it was spotless and well run) and many of my friends today work at Tim Horton's, McDonalds, Wendy's.... and they are mature, responsible people who DO care about food quality and cleanliness. I trust a franchise before a privately owned restaurant because with thousands of locations and years of experience, they have developed in-house policies and practices that better safeguard their customers.0
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bw_conway, I think this is a valid question.If people state they would like to live a clean lifestyle or keep a clean house, people think that's great. Mention that you want to eat clean, and it creates a *kitten* storm? Why is that?
Using your analogy, I'm kind of casual about housekeeping. I don't like dirtiness or dust, but I don't mind shoes lying around or unmade beds. Let's say you make your bed in the morning as part of keeping your house clean. Well, that's your bed and it has nothing to do with mine, and both of us, being smart and reasonable people, are not likely to assume that the way the other one does something means the way WE do it is dirty. Two different houses, two different beds, two different standards - they don't reflect anything about each other.
However, in the case of a Big Mac, we are looking at THE SAME EXACT BIG MAC.When you're framing discussion about food by dividing it into categories of clean and dirty, any given specific food can EITHER be one OR the other. Unless we're dealing with Schrodinger's Big Mac here, that Big Mac can't be dirty-eating and clean-eating at the same time. If you think the Big Mac isn't "clean" and I eat it, you've just told me I've eaten something dirty.
I think that's why people side-eye those kinds of divisions. They directly imply negative value judgments toward people who operate outside of those standards.
Annnnnnd now I want a Big Mac.
I think it's interesting that body-shaming is considered one of the most heinous offenses here... yet food-shaming is not. I think you've done a fine job explaining how "dirty" eating is derided by "clean" eaters.
ETA: Just wanted to say I love your use of quantum mechanics to justify your position.0 -
And another clean eating thread crumbles. Cheers and happy friday folks.:drinker:0
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This is my problem .. clean has a bunch of different lines:
Strwaberry, picked and eaten in field
Strawberry, bought from local co-op
Strawberry, from a factory farm, bought at the grocery store
Frozen Strawberries
Home made strawberry compote
Store-bought strawberry jam
etc, etc
Where is the line that makes it unclean. several correct answers exist.0 -
And "clean eating" is derided by the convenience food fans. It goes both ways here. I do hope you can see that.
bw_conway, I think this is a valid question.If people state they would like to live a clean lifestyle or keep a clean house, people think that's great. Mention that you want to eat clean, and it creates a *kitten* storm? Why is that?
Using your analogy, I'm kind of casual about housekeeping. I don't like dirtiness or dust, but I don't mind shoes lying around or unmade beds. Let's say you make your bed in the morning as part of keeping your house clean. Well, that's your bed and it has nothing to do with mine, and both of us, being smart and reasonable people, are not likely to assume that the way the other one does something means the way WE do it is dirty. Two different houses, two different beds, two different standards - they don't reflect anything about each other.
However, in the case of a Big Mac, we are looking at THE SAME EXACT BIG MAC.When you're framing discussion about food by dividing it into categories of clean and dirty, any given specific food can EITHER be one OR the other. Unless we're dealing with Schrodinger's Big Mac here, that Big Mac can't be dirty-eating and clean-eating at the same time. If you think the Big Mac isn't "clean" and I eat it, you've just told me I've eaten something dirty.
I think that's why people side-eye those kinds of divisions. They directly imply negative value judgments toward people who operate outside of those standards.
Annnnnnd now I want a Big Mac.
I think it's interesting that body-shaming is considered one of the most heinous offenses here... yet food-shaming is not. I think you've done a fine job explaining how "dirty" eating is derided by "clean" eaters.0 -
And another clean eating thread crumbles. Cheers and happy friday folks.:drinker:
Apparently "crumbles" means "the clean eating proponents make themselves look nonsensical and fear-mongering by being sanctimonious and shaming the actual food choices of others."0 -
And "clean eating" is derided by the convenience food fans. It goes both ways here. I do hope you can see that.
No, it is not. I have not once ever said that there's something wrong with eating "clean" food however it's defined.
BY CONTRAST, you and others have said there's something wrong with eating food I eat.
There's nothing wrong with the food you eat, but you are telling us there's something wrong with the food we eat.0 -
Eating clean? What does it really mean?
It means, it has not dropped to the floor.
I believe clean eating means nothing processed; used for body builders.
Dirty eating means processed and is used by everybody who is trying to loose weight
I believe there is a difference between eating 1200 calories worth of apples vs 1200 calores of a big mac.
Just my 2 cents.0 -
Eating clean? What does it really mean?
It means, it has not dropped to the floor.
I believe clean eating means nothing processed; used for body builders.
Dirty eating means processed and is used by everybody who is trying to loose weight
I believe there is a difference between eating 1200 calories worth of apples vs 1200 calores of a big mac.
Just my 2 cents.
Indeed.
You'll die faster eating only apples than you will eating only Big Macs.
The human body needs protein and fat.0 -
And "clean eating" is derided by the convenience food fans. It goes both ways here. I do hope you can see that.
I think it's interesting that body-shaming is considered one of the most heinous offenses here... yet food-shaming is not. I think you've done a fine job explaining how "dirty" eating is derided by "clean" eaters.
Nope.
The closest I got to derision for clean eating was pointing out to bw_conway that his problem with "dirty" food was exactly that--his own problem due to his perception, not due to the content of the food itself.0 -
Eating clean? What does it really mean?
It means, it has not dropped to the floor.
I believe clean eating means nothing processed; used for body builders.
Dirty eating means processed and is used by everybody who is trying to loose weight
I believe there is a difference between eating 1200 calories worth of apples vs 1200 calores of a big mac.
Just my 2 cents.
Indeed.
You'll die faster eating only apples than you will eating only Big Macs.
The human body needs protein and fat.
What if I'm a polar bear?
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First you are 4'11 and 101 pounds... you do not need to lose any weight, you need to just step into the gym, walk over to the weight side... and that's it.
Seriously.
And this is coming from someone who is 4'9.5" .0 -
With obesity such an epidemic in America, you guys should be able to make some money preaching and educating these people. Since so many fast food places get their business.0
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It means washing your fresh food before eating. 5 second rule applies so there's that.0
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And "clean eating" is derided by the convenience food fans. It goes both ways here. I do hope you can see that.
No, it is not. I have not once ever said that there's something wrong with eating "clean" food however it's defined.
BY CONTRAST, you and others have said there's something wrong with eating food I eat.
There's nothing wrong with the food you eat, but you are telling us there's something wrong with the food we eat.
Yes, this.
I have a friend who is on a crazed "clean eating" kick lately. (I have several friends who describe their diets this way, but only one being this obnoxious about it.) She posts recipes about "clean eating this" and "clean eating that" to her Facebook page a lot, and I'm all about liking all her posts because, not gonna lie, that **** usually looks pretty good. Pumpkin cheesecake? Filthy-dirty or squeaky-clean, I'd eat it!
By contrast, I posted a recipe for a homemade ground pork sausage-sweet-potato-scrambled-eggs-and-bell-pepper hash that I made a couple days ago and she was like "looks good, but if the pork isn't organic, I couldn't eat that because I'm into CLEAN EATING."
I was like gurl.0 -
This **** happens on organic vegan restaurants too
It has yet to happen in my kitchen.
OK. So "clean" is anything at all you prepare yourself? Is a donut bacon cheeseburger you make in your own kitchen just fine, then?
No, no, no. I didn't say that something was clean just because I prepared it.
There are multiple dimensions of food characteristics that I look at. Clean, quality ingredients, minimally processed, fresh, nutritious, natural. I want as many as possible every time I eat, that is what I strive for. I didn't really consider that a controversial position before I started using this website, I'm shocked that this offends anyone.0 -
And "clean eating" is derided by the convenience food fans. It goes both ways here. I do hope you can see that.
No, it is not. I have not once ever said that there's something wrong with eating "clean" food however it's defined.
BY CONTRAST, you and others have said there's something wrong with eating food I eat.
There's nothing wrong with the food you eat, but you are telling us there's something wrong with the food we eat.
Yes, this.
I have a friend who is on a crazed "clean eating" kick lately. (I have several friends who describe their diets this way, but only one being this obnoxious about it.) She posts recipes about "clean eating this" and "clean eating that" to her Facebook page a lot, and I'm all about liking all her posts because, not gonna lie, that **** usually looks pretty good. Pumpkin cheesecake? Filthy-dirty or squeaky-clean, I'd eat it!
By contrast, I posted a recipe for a homemade ground pork sausage-sweet-potato-scrambled-eggs-and-bell-pepper hash that I made a couple days ago and she was like "looks good, but if the pork isn't organic, I couldn't eat that because I'm into CLEAN EATING."
I was like gurl.
I had someone like that on my FL. She works out all the time and complains about how hard it is to eat enough calories.
I kept posting pics of delicious-looking fast food and dessert concoctions like Pop-tart ice cream sandwiches along with graphs of my lean vs fat mass over time, my cholesterol levels, etc.
I eventually won her over.
Today for lunch she went to Five Guys and had a double cheeseburger. She talks about how much happier she is now that she doesn't have to think of all this food she loves as "dirty."0 -
This **** happens on organic vegan restaurants too
It has yet to happen in my kitchen.
OK. So "clean" is anything at all you prepare yourself? Is a donut bacon cheeseburger you make in your own kitchen just fine, then?
No, no, no. I didn't say that something was clean just because I prepared it.
There are multiple dimensions of food characteristics that I look at. Clean, quality ingredients, minimally processed, fresh, nutritious, natural. I want as many as possible every time I eat, that is what I strive for. I didn't really consider that a controversial position before I started using this website, I'm shocked that this offends anyone.
What offends people is when you tell them that the food they're eating, which is perfectly fine, is "not clean."
The part that offends people is the value judgment you pass on their choices.0 -
your most likely underestimating your husbands home cooked meals.. he is probably not worried about calories or measuring things he puts into the food, thus your getting extra calories that way. Just my guess.
LOL this reminds me when I was losing weight and we had a date night, my husband cooked dinner....after he told me that the fries were fried in goose fat!!!!0 -
your most likely underestimating your husbands home cooked meals.. he is probably not worried about calories or measuring things he puts into the food, thus your getting extra calories that way. Just my guess.
LOL this reminds me when I was losing weight and we had a date night, my husband cooked dinner....after he told me that the fries were fried in goose fat!!!!
That sounds awesome.
Where do you think I can get goose fat?0 -
And "clean eating" is derided by the convenience food fans. It goes both ways here. I do hope you can see that.
No, it is not. I have not once ever said that there's something wrong with eating "clean" food however it's defined.
BY CONTRAST, you and others have said there's something wrong with eating food I eat.
There's nothing wrong with the food you eat, but you are telling us there's something wrong with the food we eat.
Yes, this.
I have a friend who is on a crazed "clean eating" kick lately. (I have several friends who describe their diets this way, but only one being this obnoxious about it.) She posts recipes about "clean eating this" and "clean eating that" to her Facebook page a lot, and I'm all about liking all her posts because, not gonna lie, that **** usually looks pretty good. Pumpkin cheesecake? Filthy-dirty or squeaky-clean, I'd eat it!
By contrast, I posted a recipe for a homemade ground pork sausage-sweet-potato-scrambled-eggs-and-bell-pepper hash that I made a couple days ago and she was like "looks good, but if the pork isn't organic, I couldn't eat that because I'm into CLEAN EATING."
I was like gurl.
I had someone like that on my FL. She works out all the time and complains about how hard it is to eat enough calories.
I kept posting pics of delicious-looking fast food and dessert concoctions like Pop-tart ice cream sandwiches along with graphs of my lean vs fat mass over time, my cholesterol levels, etc.
I eventually won her over.
Today for lunch she went to Five Guys and had a double cheeseburger. She talks about how much happier she is now that she doesn't have to think of all this food she loves as "dirty."
Her status update today: "Screw it! My muscles want another burger!!! — at Five Guy's Burgers and Fries."0 -
What offends people is when you tell them that the food they're eating, which is perfectly fine, is "not clean."
The part that offends people is the value judgment you pass on their choices.
Refer to the topic of this thread: "Eating clean? What does it really mean?"
I shared, as requested, what clean eating means to me. If people are going to get offended by opinions associated with the topic, they should avoid these types of threads.0 -
What offends people is when you tell them that the food they're eating, which is perfectly fine, is "not clean."
The part that offends people is the value judgment you pass on their choices.
Refer to the topic of this thread: "Eating clean? What does it really mean?"
I shared, as requested, what clean eating means to me. If people are going to get offended by opinions associated with the topic, they should avoid these types of threads.
And if you are going to have a problem with people criticizing your judgmental attitude, then maybe you should keep said attitude to yourself
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I've been waiting, but neither 'Big Food' nor 'Fast Food' have sent ME any checks yet. :grumble:With obesity such an epidemic in America, you guys should be able to make some money preaching and educating these people. Since so many fast food places get their business.0 -
your most likely underestimating your husbands home cooked meals.. he is probably not worried about calories or measuring things he puts into the food, thus your getting extra calories that way. Just my guess.
LOL this reminds me when I was losing weight and we had a date night, my husband cooked dinner....after he told me that the fries were fried in goose fat!!!!
That sounds awesome.
Where do you think I can get goose fat?
Uh...
...from a goose.
Duh.0 -
your most likely underestimating your husbands home cooked meals.. he is probably not worried about calories or measuring things he puts into the food, thus your getting extra calories that way. Just my guess.
LOL this reminds me when I was losing weight and we had a date night, my husband cooked dinner....after he told me that the fries were fried in goose fat!!!!
That sounds awesome.
Where do you think I can get goose fat?
Uh...
...from a goose.
Duh.
Seems like the goose would be somewhat unwilling to hand it over.
I don't know many geese though.0
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