Does milk count as water?
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Does a duck have lips?0
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In large cities in the Middle Ages, they got most of their hydration from milk and beer/mead because the local water was normally polluted from waste disposal.
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Just to finish this up...it's pop. Everyone knows that.
Well alright so we have tag teams...it's you and brower against me and Otter. Go get your gear on it's throwdown time.
Lemme' go get my MMA gloves out of the trunk and I'm good to go.
Okay, meantime I will sew the names on our outfits. "OtterPOP" for you and "Lolly" for me (just due to the sheer amount of Lollygagging I do around here as well as since BOTH names emphasize POPs are candies and ice creams ONLY, not things you drink with hard alcohol and limes. Would you like your name on your cape, or on your butt?
On the butt, otherwise what's the point in all the squats I've been doing?0 -
Dehydrated water counts.
Evaporated water is even better.0 -
In large cities in the Middle Ages, they got most of their hydration from milk and beer/mead because the local water was normally polluted from waste disposal.
...and the British navy instituted a rum quotient on their ships at the height of their empire because water stored in casks on board would quickly become non-potable and slimy due to algae growth.
i truly think the 2 sides of this never ending debate are fundamentally misunderstanding each other. i think the "only water counts as water" crowd are not seeing the forest through the trees and are simply trying to meet a goal they've been given, without understanding the reasoning behind it.
the "water is in everything" crowd are seeing the reasoning behind the rule, but misunderstanding the compulsive need of the other side to fill up their little glass on MFP every day. to fill up the glass, it's easier for them to just count plain water than to figure out how much water is in their food too.0 -
In large cities in the Middle Ages, they got most of their hydration from milk and beer/mead because the local water was normally polluted from waste disposal.
Early on in US history, it was hard cider, for the same reason (questionable water sources).0 -
Just to finish this up...it's pop. Everyone knows that.
Well alright so we have tag teams...it's you and brower against me and Otter. Go get your gear on it's throwdown time.
and the men have all done a switzerland and rallied behind a dwight gif. *smh*
I've seen what otter dead lifts... It's soda.0 -
Seriously, come on! Your body needs water like you need air. You can survive for days without food but try going without water for 2 and you will see the response your body will give you. I consume 8-10 litres of water a day which is about 40 glasses. That might seems a lot but consider this: its better to have a hydrated body and dehydrated especially when training fasted after 20 hour fast.
I stopped drinking milk 12 years ago, do some research on milk and you will understand why especially any milk from the US, UK hence why I supplement my nutrition with calcium.
Cheers
Sergio
I could drink nothing but milk for a month and never be dehydrated in the least. Also, I would get lots of good protein, calcium, fat and a plethora of other great things. I produce plenty of natural lactase so I have no issues with milk.
LOL, I have no issues with your lactase production or milk either. *giggity*0 -
OK - how about looking at it this way:
Somehow you find yourself lost and alone in the middle of the Sahara desert. No water or food. You start walking in the 40°C+ heat. For 2 days. You are now severely dehydrated and in imminent danger of dying. At first you think you are hallucinating when you see what appears to be a fridge at the top of the next sand dune. As you approach it stays there and to your surprise it turns out to be a solar powered fridge. You open it. Inside is a gallon of fresh pure milk and nothing else.
Do you:
A. drink it and stay alive?
or
B: say "dang! no water!" and carry on walking?
Check the label first, to make sure those cows weren't given bovine growth hormone!!!!!0 -
Just to finish this up...it's pop. Everyone knows that.
Well alright so we have tag teams...it's you and brower against me and Otter. Go get your gear on it's throwdown time.
and the men have all done a switzerland and rallied behind a dwight gif. *smh*
I've seen what otter dead lifts... It's soda.
Oh ETA sorry didn't realize that was a concede based on the awesomeness of Otter.0 -
Yes, count it as water. After all it does list water on the ingredients does it not?0
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In large cities in the Middle Ages, they got most of their hydration from milk and beer/mead because the local water was normally polluted from waste disposal.
They did the same on sailing vessels since water would go bad but the barreled beer had staying power.0 -
I count most liquids as water. Just be sure you record it in your food diary so you account for the calories.0
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OK - how about looking at it this way:
Somehow you find yourself lost and alone in the middle of the Sahara desert. No water or food. You start walking in the 40°C+ heat. For 2 days. You are now severely dehydrated and in imminent danger of dying. At first you think you are hallucinating when you see what appears to be a fridge at the top of the next sand dune. As you approach it stays there and to your surprise it turns out to be a solar powered fridge. You open it. Inside is a gallon of fresh pure milk and nothing else.
Do you:
A. drink it and stay alive?
or
B: say "dang! no water!" and carry on walking?
ask this question to the paleo/primal people.
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milk has calories. water doesnt. i count it milk as milk. water as water.0
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For me the only thing I count as water is water. Not flavored or anything. However, if my goal is 64 ounces and I drink a glass of milk and I'm short on water for the day, I don't sweat it as much. I know I'm still getting hydrated properly.0
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Just to finish this up...it's pop. Everyone knows that.
Well alright so we have tag teams...it's you and brower against me and Otter. Go get your gear on it's throwdown time.
and the men have all done a switzerland and rallied behind a dwight gif. *smh*
I've seen what otter dead lifts... It's soda.
Pahahahahahaha!!!!
Funny side note: I really do have MMA gloves in my trunk, for my cagefit class. They only ever hit bags, but they make me feel all tough and mighty.0 -
Assume that you use your water ticker, what prevents you from logging the calories AND ticking off a glass of liquid?milk has calories. water doesnt. i count it milk as milk. water as water.0 -
OK - how about looking at it this way:
Somehow you find yourself lost and alone in the middle of the Sahara desert. No water or food. You start walking in the 40°C+ heat. For 2 days. You are now severely dehydrated and in imminent danger of dying. At first you think you are hallucinating when you see what appears to be a fridge at the top of the next sand dune. As you approach it stays there and to your surprise it turns out to be a solar powered fridge. You open it. Inside is a gallon of fresh pure milk and nothing else.
Do you:
A. drink it and stay alive?
or
B: say "dang! no water!" and carry on walking?
ask this question to the paleo/primal people.
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Some of those people will do raw, unhomogenized full fat milk, which sounds delicious and makes me want my own cow.0 -
milk has calories. water doesnt. i count it milk as milk. water as water.
just curious... do you think that milk does NOT contribute to your daily hydration? or do you just think it's easier to only log plain water?0 -
:laugh: :laugh:Do cookies count as water? I hope so. Then cookies and milk would count as TWO waters.
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a) You don't need 8 glasses of water a day,
b) You need to consume enough FLUIDS to keep your body hydrated.
c) If your urine is pale yellow you are hydrated.
d) Any kind of liquid will hydrate your body. Coffee, tea, milk, juice, soda, soups, etc. An apple is 85% water.
e) There is no proof that drinking large amounts of water has any effect on weight loss beyond making you feel full.
THIS!!0 -
Check the label first, to make sure those cows weren't given bovine growth hormone!!!!!
It's OK - it's certified organic milk so no bGH
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OK - how about looking at it this way:
Somehow you find yourself lost and alone in the middle of the Sahara desert. No water or food. You start walking in the 40°C+ heat. For 2 days. You are now severely dehydrated and in imminent danger of dying. At first you think you are hallucinating when you see what appears to be a fridge at the top of the next sand dune. As you approach it stays there and to your surprise it turns out to be a solar powered fridge. You open it. Inside is a gallon of fresh pure milk and nothing else.
Do you:
A. drink it and stay alive?
or
B: say "dang! no water!" and carry on walking?
ask this question to the paleo/primal people.
:laugh:
Some of those people will do raw, unhomogenized full fat milk, which sounds delicious and makes me want my own cow.
IIRC, there is a whole bunch of them on here who insist that it's unnatural to drink cow's milk and that our ancestors did not do that, so they refuse to do that as well.0 -
This is getting asinine. Just because you add something to the water doesn't mean you DON'T count it as water.0
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Seriously, come on! Your body needs water like you need air. You can survive for days without food but try going without water for 2 and you will see the response your body will give you. I consume 8-10 litres of water a day which is about 40 glasses. That might seems a lot but consider this: its better to have a hydrated body and dehydrated especially when training fasted after 20 hour fast.
I stopped drinking milk 12 years ago, do some research on milk and you will understand why especially any milk from the US, UK hence why I supplement my nutrition with calcium.
Cheers
Sergio
I could drink nothing but milk for a month and never be dehydrated in the least. Also, I would get lots of good protein, calcium, fat and a plethora of other great things. I produce plenty of natural lactase so I have no issues with milk.
Do some research before making a statement like that:
So why is milk so bad? According to Vivian Goldschmidt, founder of Save Our Bones, there are a variety of myths surrounding milk consumption. One of the first myths, she says, is that drinking milk creates healthy bones because of the calcium found in the milk. However, the animal protein found in milk actually depletes the human body of calcium, exactly the opposite of what milk drinkers expect it to do.
In much the same way, she also dispels another milk myth, that drinking milk will help reduce bone fractures. She cites sources that show that higher milk consumption can actually be linked with an increase in bone fractures. Further, she also states that milk is a "processed food." Milk is pasteurized and homogenized, and the cows that produce the milk are given hormones and antibiotics (which, of course, wind up in the milk). Goldschmidt then links hormonal additives to cancer.
Ultimately, Cohen, Goldschmidt and hundreds of others want Americans (and, in fact, every human being on the planet) to get this message: Say 'No' to Milk!
Sources:
http://www.llli.org/FAQ/bflength.html
http://www.notmilk.com/
http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/031255_milk_health.html#ixzz2XorPZUlH0 -
I'm so sorry for some if the stupid pointless answers you're getting. Anything without caffeine is technically hydration. That said, milk has calories, vitamins, and fat that water doesn't have. Think of it this way: skim milk has 80-100 calorie per 8 ounces (varies by brand) if you drink 6 or 8 glasses daily look at all those calories! Most people should drink 8 ounces of milk per day and 64 ounces of water in addition to any other liquids you consume.0
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Seriously, come on! Your body needs water like you need air. You can survive for days without food but try going without water for 2 and you will see the response your body will give you. I consume 8-10 litres of water a day which is about 40 glasses. That might seems a lot but consider this: its better to have a hydrated body and dehydrated especially when training fasted after 20 hour fast.
I stopped drinking milk 12 years ago, do some research on milk and you will understand why especially any milk from the US, UK hence why I supplement my nutrition with calcium.
Cheers
Sergio
I could drink nothing but milk for a month and never be dehydrated in the least. Also, I would get lots of good protein, calcium, fat and a plethora of other great things. I produce plenty of natural lactase so I have no issues with milk.
Do some research before making a statement like that:
So why is milk so bad? According to Vivian Goldschmidt, founder of Save Our Bones, there are a variety of myths surrounding milk consumption. One of the first myths, she says, is that drinking milk creates healthy bones because of the calcium found in the milk. However, the animal protein found in milk actually depletes the human body of calcium, exactly the opposite of what milk drinkers expect it to do.
In much the same way, she also dispels another milk myth, that drinking milk will help reduce bone fractures. She cites sources that show that higher milk consumption can actually be linked with an increase in bone fractures. Further, she also states that milk is a "processed food." Milk is pasteurized and homogenized, and the cows that produce the milk are given hormones and antibiotics (which, of course, wind up in the milk). Goldschmidt then links hormonal additives to cancer.
Ultimately, Cohen, Goldschmidt and hundreds of others want Americans (and, in fact, every human being on the planet) to get this message: Say 'No' to Milk!
Sources:
http://www.llli.org/FAQ/bflength.html
http://www.notmilk.com/
http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/031255_milk_health.html#ixzz2XorPZUlH
you know who else didn't drink milk?...
Hitler.
Hitler didn't drink milk.
congratulations, you and Hitler have something in common.0 -
Seriously, come on! Your body needs water like you need air. You can survive for days without food but try going without water for 2 and you will see the response your body will give you. I consume 8-10 litres of water a day which is about 40 glasses. That might seems a lot but consider this: its better to have a hydrated body and dehydrated especially when training fasted after 20 hour fast.
I stopped drinking milk 12 years ago, do some research on milk and you will understand why especially any milk from the US, UK hence why I supplement my nutrition with calcium.
Cheers
Sergio
I could drink nothing but milk for a month and never be dehydrated in the least. Also, I would get lots of good protein, calcium, fat and a plethora of other great things. I produce plenty of natural lactase so I have no issues with milk.
Do some research before making a statement like that:
So why is milk so bad? According to Vivian Goldschmidt, founder of Save Our Bones, there are a variety of myths surrounding milk consumption. One of the first myths, she says, is that drinking milk creates healthy bones because of the calcium found in the milk. However, the animal protein found in milk actually depletes the human body of calcium, exactly the opposite of what milk drinkers expect it to do.
In much the same way, she also dispels another milk myth, that drinking milk will help reduce bone fractures. She cites sources that show that higher milk consumption can actually be linked with an increase in bone fractures. Further, she also states that milk is a "processed food." Milk is pasteurized and homogenized, and the cows that produce the milk are given hormones and antibiotics (which, of course, wind up in the milk). Goldschmidt then links hormonal additives to cancer.
Ultimately, Cohen, Goldschmidt and hundreds of others want Americans (and, in fact, every human being on the planet) to get this message: Say 'No' to Milk!
Sources:
http://www.llli.org/FAQ/bflength.html
http://www.notmilk.com/
http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/031255_milk_health.html#ixzz2XorPZUlH
I've read that propaganda before and like all propaganda, I refuse to be figuratively bullied by it.0 -
In large cities in the Middle Ages, they got most of their hydration from milk and beer/mead because the local water was normally polluted from waste disposal.
They did the same on sailing vessels since water would go bad but the barreled beer had staying power.
Knowledge rocks.0
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