Cow milk - is it safe for humans to drink? Why the hype?
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Rofl, I drink over 1 litre a day, not because of hype because I luv it0
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rankinsect wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »I've heard people talk about this as well. The general consensus is that children (especially female children) should not be ingesting hormone filled milk because the hormones make them develop, mature, and get bigger chests too quick. LOL.
I suggested that perhaps maybe it wasn't the hormone-ey milk, that it was just an abundance of food in general? But I was poo poo-ed.
hormone milk = big jugs.
Hormones in milk don't affect humans. The first reason and the one that makes it a total deal-breaker is that bovine growth hormone is a large protein. Your stomach will shred it into its component amino acids before absorption, like with basically all proteins, since they are simply too big to pass across the intestinal wall. It's not like phytoestrogens from plants, which are relatively small molecules that actually could be absorbed by the gut - big proteins just don't get from the intestines into the bloodstream barring life-threatening illness or injury. And if it did, there's no evidence that bovine growth hormone has any effect on humans.
If drinking milk could give us growth hormones, that would actually be great for bodybuilders, dieters, and athletes, since (human) growth hormone tends to promote muscle growth and fat loss, and like HGH, it would probably be regulated if it actually affected us.
The actual hormones given won't directly affect humans. The hormones seem to change the composition of the milk to some slight degree, but probably to an extent that is neither a positive or negative.
Girls these days are probably reaching maturity faster because of increase nutrition, including over nutrition - fat cells can produce estradiol, and more body fat may cause them to produce more.0 -
This is an interesting article in the NYTimes about the politics of milk consumption in America - the alleged "health benefits" and some studies about adults who drink milk. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/18/upshot/got-milk-might-not-be-doing-you-much-good.html?_r=0
Personally, I never liked the taste of milk as a child, and when I did use it, I only used it in cereal (but never drank the leftover milk in the bowl). We have lactose-free milk in my apartment because my boyfriend is lactose intolerant, but we rarely use it except for when a recipe calls for it.
It's a personal preference, but many are starting to question the actual health benefits of milk for adults.
Also, almond milk is being called into question too because some producers use very little almonds and substitute a lot of additives and sugars into the milk. I had a roommate who used to make her own almond milk by blanching the almonds and then soaking them in a mesh bag. It was an interesting process, but her almond milk was 100% from almonds.0 -
In Mongolia they drink milk from a mare, in the middle east some people drink milk from a camel, sheep are also used for milk as is goats. In Italy the prized milk from a water buffalo is use to make wonderful cheese. So if you think drinking cows milk is gross.......0
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jennifer_417 wrote: »stephanieluvspb wrote: »JHALLISGETTINGsmall wrote: »I heard somewhere that humans are the only mammals that drink milk after infancy/childhood. Don't know if that's true though
I suspect my dog may be getting up in the middle of the night and pouring himself a tall glass of milk....but I can't be sure.
I mean, my cat was pretty happy to get milk, all the way up until she dropped dead of old age...come to think of it, my dog was happy to get it, too, when he could fight off the cat.
I have been owned by 5 cats so far in my lifetime and 3 of them were lactose intolerant, one so bad that she would barf after licking my yogurt carton after I finished. Apparently this is very common in cats
Same with my cats. They don't tend to have lactose persistence, and I suspect most mammals do not. Those of us who do are super lucky! (Thanks, ancestors.)0 -
My cat vomits every single time when she has milk, but is fine with cream.0
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I rarely drink milk because I just don't care to drink calories anymore (I eat dairy and add milk to recipes and when baking sometimes). I used to use a little milk in oatmeal, but I don't eat it often enough to bother buying milk for that purpose -- it would go bad before it was used.
Despite all this, these threads always make me want to go buy some milk and drink a huge glass.
Also, the only other time I lost a bunch of weight (and kept it off for some time), I'd read some recent study about milk helping with weight loss and drank a glass every morning, as well as adding some to my oatmeal or smoothie (which at the time I had every morning -- this was before my egg obsession). I lost weight really easily then. Doubt it was the milk, of course, but it certainly did not hurt.0 -
Redbeard333 wrote: »I like to drink cow's milk, but the ones from farms that treat their cows humanely. Also, the "Simply Smart" brand is good for having low calories, high protein.
If you like it go, for it, but the basic Sam's Choice or whatever they call it at Wal-Mart has basically the same nutritional profile as Simply Smart and I'm guessing 1/2 to 1/3 the price.0 -
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well cows milk has pus in it.
The same type that is in zits. 0 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »
Or vegan. Or some just like the taste of the alternate milks.
But yeah. Personal preference.
I'm not vegan but I never could stand the taste of cow's milk. My mother used to put chocolate milk mix in the milk to get me to drink it. I'd eat the chocolate chunks at the bottom of the glass and leave the milk. On the other hand I love unsweetened flax, soy, almond or coconut milk. Rice milk is okay but even the unsweetened rice milk has too many carbs.
ETA: Cheese, now, is a different subject. Cheese . . . yum!0 -
Packerjohn wrote: »
Which is why I don't drink almond milk. If I'm going to drink my calories, there's going to be some benefit to it other than just calories. Milk goes in my protein shakes, makes the flavor/texture better, adds more protein plus significant calcium. I'm not wasting calories on almond/rice/whatever "milk" which has virtually no benefit.0 -
Everybody that I know that has ever consumed milk of any type ever in their lives is either dead or dying... so no, it's not safe... at all.0
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bennettinfinity wrote: »Everybody that I know that has ever consumed milk of any type ever in their lives is either dead or dying... so no, it's not safe... at all.
Everybody who hasn't consumed milk of any type is also dead or dying. So not consuming milk is equally unsafe.0 -
Difficulty digesting milk is insanely common, especially considering that there's this thing that claims it to be an entire food group. I always chuckle when I see one of these threads because they consistently get dogpiled by people with lactose/allergy issues and it's so predictable.0
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bennettinfinity wrote: »Everybody that I know that has ever consumed milk of any type ever in their lives is either dead or dying... so no, it's not safe... at all.
Everybody who hasn't consumed milk of any type is also dead or dying. So not consuming milk is equally unsafe.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »jennifer_417 wrote: »stephanieluvspb wrote: »JHALLISGETTINGsmall wrote: »I heard somewhere that humans are the only mammals that drink milk after infancy/childhood. Don't know if that's true though
I suspect my dog may be getting up in the middle of the night and pouring himself a tall glass of milk....but I can't be sure.
I mean, my cat was pretty happy to get milk, all the way up until she dropped dead of old age...come to think of it, my dog was happy to get it, too, when he could fight off the cat.
I have been owned by 5 cats so far in my lifetime and 3 of them were lactose intolerant, one so bad that she would barf after licking my yogurt carton after I finished. Apparently this is very common in cats
Same with my cats. They don't tend to have lactose persistence, and I suspect most mammals do not. Those of us who do are super lucky! (Thanks, ancestors.)Christine_72 wrote: »My cat vomits every single time when she has milk, but is fine with cream.
my poor dogs are literally obsessed wth milk but everytime i give them a little within like 10 mins they are farting the worst smell i have ever smelt idk about their poo haha. I feel bad cause they love it soo much.0 -
almond milk has plenty of protein. plus why worry about protein. milk is not worth all the pus that it contains. gross.0
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ariellenkov wrote: »almond milk has plenty of protein. plus why worry about protein. milk is not worth all the pus that it contains. gross.
Silk Almond milk has 1 gm of protein per serving, generic skim milk 8 gm. The protein in almond milk is a rounding difference.0 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »jennifer_417 wrote: »"Safe" like, fewer people have died playing Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic,
How would that even work? The first player would always lose.
That's why you always go last; last one standing wins.0 -
Exactly. And beyond that there is a maximum allowable amount of those cells (an elevated number of cells indicates an infection in the cow).
The idea that you're drinking pus when you take a sip of milk is incorrect and silly.0 -
Have you studied this or did you read this from the internet?
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Have you had human breast milk as an adult? It's not that delicious with cookies.
What is the point of this question?
I'm sure hardly any of us have drunk human milk as adults but this is relevant how??
And actually part of this is a cultural cringe. I have read that indigenous tribes of people without domesticated milk producing animals ( cows, goats, sheep etc) did sometimes give human milk to their frail elderly.
Not directly from the breast, of course.
But then we dont drink cows milk directly from the cows udder either.
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Have you studied this or did you read this from the internet?
And I'm sure you're going to share your qualifications for making the statement in the first place.0 -
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I think milk is weird personally.
I use it recipes that call for it I still think it's weird.
I would think drinking human breast milk is weird also. But drinking another animals "breast milk" seems even crazier to me lol\
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FunkyTobias wrote: »jennifer_417 wrote: »"Safe" like, fewer people have died playing Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic,
How would that even work? The first player would always lose.
Not if you are playing by the quantum rule book. In that case, the milk could be more dangerous.0 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »jennifer_417 wrote: »"Safe" like, fewer people have died playing Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic,
How would that even work? The first player would always lose.
Right?! Any player would lose if the mag is still loaded.
A half empty revolver sure, but certainly not my 9mm. LMAO!0 -
I might point out that both the ants and the aphids benefit from this symbiotic relationship. The ants, a steady supply of concentrated food, and the aphids, scouting and protection.
Similarly, some species have benefited from cooperating with man. They get shelter, medical care, and a steady supply of food. This includes goats, horses, cattle, dogs, chickens, pigs, rabbits, and cats. Other opportunistic species include rats, mice, roaches, crows, coyotes, sparrows, gulls, and scavengers of all kinds.0
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