Cardio isn't for "fat burning".
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Isn't there an increase in a person's metabolic rate from consistent/daily/weekly exercising? This is a huge plus in my book just to exercise (but I am a bit old) LOL
As the above poster said above, I have lost weight, maintained and gained weight whilst exercising.
IMHO I think TV shows, magazines, internet jargon, make it out to believe that you must "exercise to loose weight", or at least that is the way it comes across. So people jump on MFP setup a calorie deficit and jump right on the forums and always ask "how many calories do I need to burn a day to loose weight", or "what type of cardio do I need to do to loose XXX pounds by XXX date?"
Who actually asks how can I improve my cardiovascular health to compliment my weight loss? Not very many.
yes, you get an increase in calories burned, but the point that niner is making is that this is small and that consistent calorie deficit is really the answer....0 -
took me more years than I care to mention to figure this out.1
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ForecasterJason wrote: »For low intensity exercises, is it body fat or dietary fat burned, or both?
You'll do better if you just think of it as energy. During lower intensity exercises the body will pull some from the muscle cells themselves, and some from blood stream. The blood stream energy will be replenished by energy stored in your liver. Once that is used up it will then use stored body fat for energy. This is released into your blood and is no different than the dietary fat that you've eaten that day which might be remaining. It doesn't wait until your totally out of energy so the stored fat/energy is mixed in with things you may have eaten recently.
There are strategies for helping your body to prefer stored fat over glycogen but that includes starting the exercise in a fasted state and doing 90+ minutes of exercise. You can run out of glycogen energy storage in your cells too but that's all really outside the scope of this discussion.1 -
RUN_LIFT_EAT wrote: »You can't outrun a bad diet.
I can out run anything!!!*
*As long as it's really, really slow.1 -
Isn't there an increase in a person's metabolic rate from consistent/daily/weekly exercising? This is a huge plus in my book just to exercise (but I am a bit old) LOL
As the above poster said above, I have lost weight, maintained and gained weight whilst exercising.
IMHO I think TV shows, magazines, internet jargon, make it out to believe that you must "exercise to loose weight", or at least that is the way it comes across. So people jump on MFP setup a calorie deficit and jump right on the forums and always ask "how many calories do I need to burn a day to loose weight", or "what type of cardio do I need to do to loose XXX pounds by XXX date?"
Who actually asks how can I improve my cardiovascular health to compliment my weight loss? Not very many.
*raises hand*
In fact I cared more about this than the actual weight but they're both side-kicks and fixing one helps the other. That is I first cared about getting less winded at 11k+ feet and that triggered my desire to fix other things. Generally however..... "Wedding in 6 weeks! ZOMG!"
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CindyFooWho wrote: »Being in good cardio vascular health makes you feel fantastic. And that should be enough
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Isn't there an increase in a person's metabolic rate from consistent/daily/weekly exercising? This is a huge plus in my book just to exercise (but I am a bit old) LOL
As the above poster said above, I have lost weight, maintained and gained weight whilst exercising.
IMHO I think TV shows, magazines, internet jargon, make it out to believe that you must "exercise to loose weight", or at least that is the way it comes across. So people jump on MFP setup a calorie deficit and jump right on the forums and always ask "how many calories do I need to burn a day to loose weight", or "what type of cardio do I need to do to loose XXX pounds by XXX date?"
Who actually asks how can I improve my cardiovascular health to compliment my weight loss? Not very many.
yes, you get an increase in calories burned, but the point that niner is making is that this is small and that consistent calorie deficit is really the answer....
Oh I know this... I am just chatting...sorry.
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Isn't there an increase in a person's metabolic rate from consistent/daily/weekly exercising? This is a huge plus in my book just to exercise (but I am a bit old) LOL
As the above poster said above, I have lost weight, maintained and gained weight whilst exercising.
IMHO I think TV shows, magazines, internet jargon, make it out to believe that you must "exercise to loose weight", or at least that is the way it comes across. So people jump on MFP setup a calorie deficit and jump right on the forums and always ask "how many calories do I need to burn a day to loose weight", or "what type of cardio do I need to do to loose XXX pounds by XXX date?"
Who actually asks how can I improve my cardiovascular health to compliment my weight loss? Not very many.
*raises hand*
In fact I cared more about this than the actual weight but they're both side-kicks and fixing one helps the other. That is I first cared about getting less winded at 11k+ feet and that triggered my desire to fix other things. Generally however..... "Wedding in 6 weeks! ZOMG!"
I guess I should stop posting again..0 -
In other news...the sky is up
You say this, but go ahead and peruse this forum to see the many "Should I start with cardio or strength training to lose weight?", or "How do I get toned abs?", or "I workout an hour everyday, why am I not losing weight?" threads.
Yes, it should be common knowledge, but this website and it's forum alone shows that it isn't.0 -
Isn't there an increase in a person's metabolic rate from consistent/daily/weekly exercising? This is a huge plus in my book just to exercise (but I am a bit old) LOL
As the above poster said above, I have lost weight, maintained and gained weight whilst exercising.
IMHO I think TV shows, magazines, internet jargon, make it out to believe that you must "exercise to loose weight", or at least that is the way it comes across. So people jump on MFP setup a calorie deficit and jump right on the forums and always ask "how many calories do I need to burn a day to loose weight", or "what type of cardio do I need to do to loose XXX pounds by XXX date?"
Who actually asks how can I improve my cardiovascular health to compliment my weight loss? Not very many.
yes, you get an increase in calories burned, but the point that niner is making is that this is small and that consistent calorie deficit is really the answer....
Oh I know this... I am just chatting...sorry.
no problem..
I thought you were asking for clarification...0 -
Isn't there an increase in a person's metabolic rate from consistent/daily/weekly exercising? This is a huge plus in my book just to exercise (but I am a bit old) LOL
As the above poster said above, I have lost weight, maintained and gained weight whilst exercising.
IMHO I think TV shows, magazines, internet jargon, make it out to believe that you must "exercise to loose weight", or at least that is the way it comes across. So people jump on MFP setup a calorie deficit and jump right on the forums and always ask "how many calories do I need to burn a day to loose weight", or "what type of cardio do I need to do to loose XXX pounds by XXX date?"
Who actually asks how can I improve my cardiovascular health to compliment my weight loss? Not very many.
*raises hand*
In fact I cared more about this than the actual weight but they're both side-kicks and fixing one helps the other. That is I first cared about getting less winded at 11k+ feet and that triggered my desire to fix other things. Generally however..... "Wedding in 6 weeks! ZOMG!"
I guess I should stop posting again..
@gia07 I was here first. Stop following me. :P0 -
While the OP is correct, it's a bit misleading. One should do 20+ minutes of cardio to be fat burning. Up to the 20 minute mark (approximately), you're basically burning off the sugars stored in your blood and muscle lining. the general statement is correct that if you are at a consistent calorie deficit, you will lose fat.2
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That's what nightmares are made of, thanks
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LOL it was a really effective campaign
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Isn't there an increase in a person's metabolic rate from consistent/daily/weekly exercising? This is a huge plus in my book just to exercise (but I am a bit old) LOL
As the above poster said above, I have lost weight, maintained and gained weight whilst exercising.
IMHO I think TV shows, magazines, internet jargon, make it out to believe that you must "exercise to loose weight", or at least that is the way it comes across. So people jump on MFP setup a calorie deficit and jump right on the forums and always ask "how many calories do I need to burn a day to loose weight", or "what type of cardio do I need to do to loose XXX pounds by XXX date?"
Who actually asks how can I improve my cardiovascular health to compliment my weight loss? Not very many.
*raises hand*
In fact I cared more about this than the actual weight but they're both side-kicks and fixing one helps the other. That is I first cared about getting less winded at 11k+ feet and that triggered my desire to fix other things. Generally however..... "Wedding in 6 weeks! ZOMG!"
I guess I should stop posting again..
@gia07 I was here first. Stop following me. :P
You know the rules, stalking is only allowed on that "one" forum. 0 -
haha.. thats why some body builders/protein heads/creatine heads/roiders i know never do cardio lol.. "waist of time" but for me it works .. but to truly "burn fat" you need to eat better and vary your workouts.1
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I was actually going to ask about this - Does visceral fat behave the same way as other fat? I've read so many silly magazine, clickbait style articles I'm not sure if I've ever read anything legit on it anymore.0 -
I was actually going to ask about this - Does visceral fat behave the same way as other fat? I've read so many silly magazine, clickbait style articles I'm not sure if I've ever read anything legit on it anymore.
It behaves the same as other fat but it's about the fastest burning fat because it tends to have more beta receptors than other areas, particularly lower body fat. My understanding is that it evolved as a fast energy track for activities such as hunting but that could be just speculation.0 -
haha.. thats why some body builders/protein heads/creatine heads/roiders i know never do cardio lol.. "waist of time" but for me it works .. but to truly "burn fat" you need to eat better and vary your workouts.
Eat better? You mean stay in a deficit? Doesn't matter what you eat (as long as you get min fat and protein) for fat loss. For healthy you also will need vitamins and minerals.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Isn't there an increase in a person's metabolic rate from consistent/daily/weekly exercising? This is a huge plus in my book just to exercise (but I am a bit old) LOL
As the above poster said above, I have lost weight, maintained and gained weight whilst exercising.
IMHO I think TV shows, magazines, internet jargon, make it out to believe that you must "exercise to loose weight", or at least that is the way it comes across. So people jump on MFP setup a calorie deficit and jump right on the forums and always ask "how many calories do I need to burn a day to loose weight", or "what type of cardio do I need to do to loose XXX pounds by XXX date?"
Who actually asks how can I improve my cardiovascular health to compliment my weight loss? Not very many.
*raises hand*
In fact I cared more about this than the actual weight but they're both side-kicks and fixing one helps the other. That is I first cared about getting less winded at 11k+ feet and that triggered my desire to fix other things. Generally however..... "Wedding in 6 weeks! ZOMG!"
I guess I should stop posting again..
@gia07 I was here first. Stop following me. :P
You know the rules, stalking is only allowed on that "one" forum.
I keep telling her that but @RoxieDawn keeps following me. I don't know why.0 -
In the year I've been at this, my view of exercise has really shifted. I use to view calories & exercise as equal partners and would try to work out daily, and began to pursue longer, more demanding exercise with a view to burning more calories (or maybe more specifically, with a view to buying more calories). With the scale moving sluggishly (but feeling very fit), I decided to give greater focus to my calorie counting and not concern myself as much with calorie burns. It's really gotten the scale moving again. I still work out more days than not, but for the fitness and mood boost, not to speed weight loss. For that, I'm just scrupulous about my calories.6
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While the OP is correct, it's a bit misleading. One should do 20+ minutes of cardio to be fat burning. Up to the 20 minute mark (approximately), you're basically burning off the sugars stored in your blood and muscle lining. the general statement is correct that if you are at a consistent calorie deficit, you will lose fat.
if you do 20 minutes of cardio for fat burning but you are still in a surplus for the day, have you burned any fat??1 -
If that was the case to lose fat, then no one could lose without cardio, but you can and many have.While the OP is correct, it's a bit misleading. One should do 20+ minutes of cardio to be fat burning. Up to the 20 minute mark (approximately), you're basically burning off the sugars stored in your blood and muscle lining. ...0 -
That made me laugh and feel uncomfortable at the same time.
There was an add series similar to that in the US - where people would come across random piles of flesh and comment about how someone had lost their beer belly, spare tire, bubble butt, etc... So gross, but it was actually somewhat motivating (though obviously not for purchasing the product, since I can't remember what the commercial was actually for).0 -
While the OP is correct, it's a bit misleading. One should do 20+ minutes of cardio to be fat burning. Up to the 20 minute mark (approximately), you're basically burning off the sugars stored in your blood and muscle lining. the general statement is correct that if you are at a consistent calorie deficit, you will lose fat.
if you do 20 minutes of cardio for fat burning but you are still in a surplus for the day, have you burned any fat??
Technically, yes you have. But not enough to be meaningful, and certainly not enough to outweigh the fat you later put on as result of the calorie surplus.2 -
While the OP is correct, it's a bit misleading. One should do 20+ minutes of cardio to be fat burning. Up to the 20 minute mark (approximately), you're basically burning off the sugars stored in your blood and muscle lining. the general statement is correct that if you are at a consistent calorie deficit, you will lose fat.
No form of exercise is required to reach this state- you could sit still and reach that state as long as you weren't replenishing glycogen whilst you were doing it. So, if exercise is not required for fat burning we are back to the position that @ninerbuff (OP) stated.0 -
While the OP is correct, it's a bit misleading. One should do 20+ minutes of cardio to be fat burning. Up to the 20 minute mark (approximately), you're basically burning off the sugars stored in your blood and muscle lining. the general statement is correct that if you are at a consistent calorie deficit, you will lose fat.
if you do 20 minutes of cardio for fat burning but you are still in a surplus for the day, have you burned any fat??
technically, yes. But the fat you later put on as a result of the surplus far outweighs the .000001lb of fat you burned from that exercise.
I know..it was more of a rhetorical question for that poster...0
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