Which of these 2 Cereals should I eat? (Harder than I thought)
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If you enjoy them equally, I'd eat both and see which kept me feeling fuller and better for longer. Personally, I avoid artificial things (usually) so I'd probably opt for the Kashi which seems to have fewer (Franken)ingredients. Enjoy!0
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We're going to need a verdict posted here, OP. Was it the Apple Jacks or the Kashi? Hoping a decision was made since breakfast was like 9 hours ago...0
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Cereal always always always leaves me hungry.
Can you bring your own breakfast?
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singingflutelady wrote: »heatherwartanyan wrote: »
Mercola is a quack. He is an AIDS denier and says sunscreen causes cancer. I would suggest reading other sources.
I'll stick with the Dr. I like. Thanks. I dont need you telling me who I should trust when it comes to my health. He is an amazing man who has done great work.0 -
I always wonder when people use the buzzword "processed" in regards to whether or not they eat a food- for whatever reason. Where is the cut off within the "processing" that makes it "okay".
And can most people say what that point/criteria is?
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heatherwartanyan wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »heatherwartanyan wrote: »
Mercola is a quack. He is an AIDS denier and says sunscreen causes cancer. I would suggest reading other sources.
I'll stick with the Dr. I like. Thanks. I dont need you telling me who I should trust when it comes to my health. He is an amazing man who has done great work.
But he is still a quack0 -
I would just choose based on my macros for that day. Neither cereal is a nutritional wonder lol.0
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heatherwartanyan wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »heatherwartanyan wrote: »
Mercola is a quack. He is an AIDS denier and says sunscreen causes cancer. I would suggest reading other sources.
I'll stick with the Dr. I like. Thanks. I dont need you telling me who I should trust when it comes to my health. He is an amazing man who has done great work.
And has done a lot of damage too.0 -
MommyMeggo wrote: »I always wonder when people use the buzzword "processed" in regards to whether or not they eat a food- for whatever reason. Where is the cut off within the "processing" that makes it "okay".
And can most people say what that point/criteria is?
People seem to use it to mean something different than the actual definition, and totally unaware that they eat lots of processed things themselves. It's so bizarre and confusing.0 -
I never said a calorie is not a calorie. I'm stating that calories from processed foods will not do the same for the body. If someone wants to loose weight. Especially if they are including a workout regime. They need to be fueling their bodies with nutrient dense calories not empty. So a apple will burn up more energy and supply the body with more energy then a bowl of Apple Jacks. I'm not saying that 100 calories dosnt equal 100 calories. But there's no denial that calories are not created equal.when it comes to.how your body breaks it down and uses it.0
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"All calories are not equal" is like Godwin's law for MFP.0
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heatherwartanyan wrote: »I never said a calorie is not a calorie. I'm stating that calories from processed foods will not do the same for the body. If someone wants to loose weight. Especially if they are including a workout regime. They need to be fueling their bodies with nutrient dense calories not empty. So a apple will burn up more energy and supply the body with more energy then a bowl of Apple Jacks. I'm not saying that 100 calories dosnt equal 100 calories. But there's no denial that calories are not created equal.when it comes to.how your body breaks it down and uses it.
So I see what you're saying a heavily processed 200 cal protein bar would not fuel a workout like a good ol 120ca chicken breast and 80cals of brown rice.
The body would just go limp unable to perform due to having so many processed calories. Gotcha!0 -
heatherwartanyan wrote: »I never said a calorie is not a calorie. I'm stating that calories from processed foods will not do the same for the body. If someone wants to loose weight. Especially if they are including a workout regime. They need to be fueling their bodies with nutrient dense calories not empty. So a apple will burn up more energy and supply the body with more energy then a bowl of Apple Jacks. I'm not saying that 100 calories dosnt equal 100 calories. But there's no denial that calories are not created equal.when it comes to.how your body breaks it down and uses it.
But OP didn't say what else they are eating today. If they are having a spinach salad with tuna and balsamic & olive oil dressing for lunch, a pear and some almonds for a snack, and some grilled chicken breast with broccoli and a sweet potato for dinner, why can't they have a little bowl of apple jacks?0 -
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throw the cereal out and eat some eggs.0
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heatherwartanyan wrote: »I never said a calorie is not a calorie. I'm stating that calories from processed foods will not do the same for the body. If someone wants to loose weight. Especially if they are including a workout regime. They need to be fueling their bodies with nutrient dense calories not empty. So a apple will burn up more energy and supply the body with more energy then a bowl of Apple Jacks. I'm not saying that 100 calories dosnt equal 100 calories. But there's no denial that calories are not created equal.when it comes to.how your body breaks it down and uses it.
Eating a 150 calorie bowl of Apple Jacks does not preclude a person from eating hundreds, if not thousands, of more nutrient dense foods per day. You are acting as if this one bowl of cereal is indicative of the whole of the OP's diet. It's one bowl of cereal. That's it.0 -
Apple Jacks. Because every Kashi cereal I've tried tasted like paper shavings sprinkled with dirt.0
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Wow. Really overthinking this one.0
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heatherwartanyan wrote: »I never said a calorie is not a calorie.
You linked people saying that and you said "[n]ot all calories are created equal..." Care to tell me how that's different?I'm stating that calories from processed foods will not do the same for the body.
Again, why is plain greek yogurt or smoked salmon or the salad I mentioned a few posts ago different from non processed foods in terms of the nutrients provided?
Processed foods vary a lot, as do non processed foods. The fact that they are "processed" doesn't really provide any information as to the nutrients they contain or how caloric they are.If someone wants to loose weight. Especially if they are including a workout regime. They need to be fueling their bodies with nutrient dense calories not empty.
Specifically for fueling a workout you will want easily digestible carbs, so some processed foods might be good choices, depending on the specifics.
I tend to like having some carbs at night before a morning workout, but it doesn't make much difference whether it's something less processed (like roasted potatoes or sweet potatoes) or more processed (like pasta, which I normally eat with lean meat and lots of vegetables).
Again, why on earth would it?So a apple will burn up more energy and supply the body with more energy then a bowl of Apple Jacks.
More energy=more calories, so not really true.
Are you arguing that Apple Jacks won't fuel a workout? That seems really quite unlikely, and I say this as someone who finds all cold cereal disgusting (because it tastes bad). Quick carbs are usually a good way to fuel a workout, and Apple Jacks are quick carbs. This is also why it's common to use something like a gel when running a marathon or doing a triathlon (and why chomping on a piece of chicken probably wouldn't work so well, although chicken is good for other purposes).0 -
I_Will_End_You wrote: »Apple Jacks. Because every Kashi cereal I've tried tasted like paper shavings sprinkled with dirt.
^^This. Except......have you tried the Golean Crisp Toasted Berry Crumble? YUM!!!0 -
I_Will_End_You wrote: »Apple Jacks. Because every Kashi cereal I've tried tasted like paper shavings sprinkled with dirt.
Yeah, no kidding. End of thread. If you're expecting Super Nutritional Powerz out of any freakin' cereal, you've lost the plot anyways and the game too. Buh-bye now. Cereal is dessert."All calories are not equal" is like Godwin's law for MFP.
I'll go for it!
"top Nazis escaped to South America and on to a secret base in Antarctica where they built UFOs so sophisticated that their secret Nazi empire has exerted significant control over world events and governments to this day."
Their favorite cereal? Kashi.
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"All calories are not equal" is like Godwin's law for MFP.
I'll go for it!
"top Nazis escaped to South America and on to a secret base in Antarctica where they built UFOs so sophisticated that their secret Nazi empire has exerted significant control over world events and governments to this day."
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That is my favorite! Definitely on the frequent list.booksandchocolate12 wrote: »I_Will_End_You wrote: »Apple Jacks. Because every Kashi cereal I've tried tasted like paper shavings sprinkled with dirt.
^^This. Except......have you tried the Golean Crisp Toasted Berry Crumble? YUM!!!
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20yearsyounger wrote: »
That is my favorite! Definitely on the frequent list.booksandchocolate12 wrote: »I_Will_End_You wrote: »Apple Jacks. Because every Kashi cereal I've tried tasted like paper shavings sprinkled with dirt.
^^This. Except......have you tried the Golean Crisp Toasted Berry Crumble? YUM!!!
Rather than milk, I add vanilla Greek yogurt and it's perfect for me.0 -
20yearsyounger wrote: »20yearsyounger wrote: »
That is my favorite! Definitely on the frequent list.booksandchocolate12 wrote: »I_Will_End_You wrote: »Apple Jacks. Because every Kashi cereal I've tried tasted like paper shavings sprinkled with dirt.
^^This. Except......have you tried the Golean Crisp Toasted Berry Crumble? YUM!!!
Rather than milk, I add vanilla Greek yogurt and it's perfect for me.
Great idea!0 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Just a note to the op. I was running a hit low on iron and noticed the "healthy" Kashi I was eating had no iron in it. Stuff like captain crunch had 50% rda.
Captain Crunch has 50% RDA of iron due to fortification. You'd be better off taking a supplement so you can control the form of iron. I'm anemic and found out the hard way that all forms of iron are not equal.0 -
I don't buy foods with trans fats. That's what the "partially hydrogenated" part of the Apple Jacks ingredient list means. I also avoid artificial colors. Looks like you have an old box as according to the website they are now using tumeric and not yellow dye.
http://www.kelloggs.com/en_US/kellogg-s-apple-jacks-cereal-product.html
Kellogg's® Apple Jacks® cereal
INGREDIENTS: SUGAR, CORN FLOUR BLEND (WHOLE GRAIN YELLOW CORN FLOUR, DEGERMINATED YELLOW CORN FLOUR), WHEAT FLOUR, WHOLE GRAIN OAT FLOUR, MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, OAT FIBER, SOLUBLE CORN FIBER, CONTAINS 2% OR LESS OF VEGETABLE OIL (HYDROGENATED COCONUT, SOYBEAN AND/OR COTTONSEED, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED SOYBEAN AND/OR COTTONSEED), SALT, MILLED CORN, DRIED APPLES, APPLE JUICE CONCENTRATE, CORNSTARCH, CINNAMON, MODIFIED CORN STARCH, NATURAL FLAVOR, YELLOW 6, BAKING SODA, TURMERIC EXTRACT COLOR, BLUE 1, RED 40, BHT FOR FRESHNESS. VITAMINS AND MINERALS: VITAMIN C (SODIUM ASCORBATE AND ASCORBIC ACID), NIACINAMIDE, REDUCED IRON, ZINC OXIDE, VITAMIN B6 (PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE), VITAMIN B2 (RIBOFLAVIN), VITAMIN A PALMITATE, VITAMIN B1 (THIAMIN HYDROCHLORIDE), FOLIC ACID, VITAMIN B12, VITAMIN D3.0 -
singingflutelady wrote: »heatherwartanyan wrote: »
Mercola is a quack. He is an AIDS denier and says sunscreen causes cancer. I would suggest reading other sources.
Perhaps you are not familiar with The Trouble With Sunscreen Chemicals.
our research indicates that 83% of 868 sunscreen products offer inadequate protection from the sun, or contain ingredients with significant safety concerns. We found that only 17% of the products on the market are both safe and effective, blocking both UVA and UVB radiation, remaining stable in sunlight, and containing few if any ingredients with significant known or suspected health hazards.0 -
Speaking as someone who has Fruit Loops mixed in with her morning cheerios, I'd have which ever one strikes my fancy.
The funny thing is that we are all pretty much in the same boat right The "enlightened" clean eating health nuts are just as overweight as those of us who realise that you don't have to give up anything to lose weight and that learning how to fit those high calorie low value foods into a balanced diet and life, along side of all of the delicious so called healthy foods are more likely to have long term success.
Eat real food. Just less. Eat what you like. Log those calories. Move on. Life is too short to worry about something this trivial. It isn't as if the one you chose today will open up hidden doors or magically make your weight fall off.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »heatherwartanyan wrote: »
Mercola is a quack. He is an AIDS denier and says sunscreen causes cancer. I would suggest reading other sources.
Perhaps you are not familiar with The Trouble With Sunscreen Chemicals.
our research indicates that 83% of 868 sunscreen products offer inadequate protection from the sun, or contain ingredients with significant safety concerns. We found that only 17% of the products on the market are both safe and effective, blocking both UVA and UVB radiation, remaining stable in sunlight, and containing few if any ingredients with significant known or suspected health hazards.
Yes OK shouldn't have mentioned that as they are iffy at best but the AIDS thing is worse0
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