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McDonalds all you an eat limitless french fries?
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lemurcat12 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »While I am not a fan of McDonald's per se and haven't been there other than grabbing a coffee for years...I think the idea that all you can eat is why there is an obesity problem is missing the big picture. I guess we do live in a society that places zero on personal responsibility.
Exactly....
There are plenty of all you can eat places out there...I choose not to eat at them...namely because I am definitely a food snob where quality is concerned, and I've never had anything of quality at a buffet.
Right.
Thinking about this, I haven't been to an all you can eat place in forever, except for once in 2014 when a friend of mine insisted on having a birthday brunch at Shaw's Crab House. (Their unlimited brunch buffet actually does have lots of tasty options on it, and yet I still lost weight that week.)
We used to do all you can eat places much more when I was a kid than I ever have as an adult. I assumed they'd gone out of style, but probably it's location based or just the type of place I tend to choose now (I don't find "all you can eat" appealing, as I feel like I'm paying for something I don't want). Anyway, when I was a kid we'd go when my grandparents picked, and I always thought of them as an old person thing (who knows, maybe related to being a kid during the Depression).
I mention this, because this was back in the '70s and early '80s, when obesity was much less common, even though all you can eat was definitely a thing.
McDonald's existed too, of course, and lots of other fast food restaurants. We went to them as a rare treat and ordered size appropriate food and did not get fat.
I still don't understand what the debate is supposed to be in this thread.
I don't want to bring the economic whereabouts into this, but different people were looking for a cheap meal to eat dinner, lunch, and breakfast.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »While I am not a fan of McDonald's per se and haven't been there other than grabbing a coffee for years...I think the idea that all you can eat is why there is an obesity problem is missing the big picture. I guess we do live in a society that places zero on personal responsibility.
Exactly....
There are plenty of all you can eat places out there...I choose not to eat at them...namely because I am definitely a food snob where quality is concerned, and I've never had anything of quality at a buffet.
Right.
Thinking about this, I haven't been to an all you can eat place in forever, except for once in 2014 when a friend of mine insisted on having a birthday brunch at Shaw's Crab House. (Their unlimited brunch buffet actually does have lots of tasty options on it, and yet I still lost weight that week.)
We used to do all you can eat places much more when I was a kid than I ever have as an adult. I assumed they'd gone out of style, but probably it's location based or just the type of place I tend to choose now (I don't find "all you can eat" appealing, as I feel like I'm paying for something I don't want). Anyway, when I was a kid we'd go when my grandparents picked, and I always thought of them as an old person thing (who knows, maybe related to being a kid during the Depression).
I mention this, because this was back in the '70s and early '80s, when obesity was much less common, even though all you can eat was definitely a thing.
McDonald's existed too, of course, and lots of other fast food restaurants. We went to them as a rare treat and ordered size appropriate food and did not get fat.
I still don't understand what the debate is supposed to be in this thread.
When I was a kid I did enjoy going to this all you can eat buffet which rotated so you could stand still and the bowls of jello with whipped cream would come right to you... That was one of our big treats. My mom liked to tell the story of the night I ate 12 fried chicken legs (I was a tiny, tiny thing as a child) and 3 bowls of ice cream. As I grew older, those places were pretty much obsolete. The only all you can eat buffets I can think of today are some breakfast buffets, chinese buffets, and those at the casinos. We don't go to any of those often, but when we do, I usually get one plate of food unless there is something I just particularly love and want a small second portion of that. I agree the quality of the food is usually less than what I would order off a menu somewhere, and I'm not a volume eater (never have been - 12 chicken legs aside, I'm pretty sure that's all I ate that night).
Last week I was at an all inclusive resort in Jamaica and I was far more interested in the unlimited drinks than I was going back for plate after plate of mass produced food.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »While I am not a fan of McDonald's per se and haven't been there other than grabbing a coffee for years...I think the idea that all you can eat is why there is an obesity problem is missing the big picture. I guess we do live in a society that places zero on personal responsibility.
Exactly....
There are plenty of all you can eat places out there...I choose not to eat at them...namely because I am definitely a food snob where quality is concerned, and I've never had anything of quality at a buffet.
Right.
Thinking about this, I haven't been to an all you can eat place in forever, except for once in 2014 when a friend of mine insisted on having a birthday brunch at Shaw's Crab House. (Their unlimited brunch buffet actually does have lots of tasty options on it, and yet I still lost weight that week.)
We used to do all you can eat places much more when I was a kid than I ever have as an adult. I assumed they'd gone out of style, but probably it's location based or just the type of place I tend to choose now (I don't find "all you can eat" appealing, as I feel like I'm paying for something I don't want). Anyway, when I was a kid we'd go when my grandparents picked, and I always thought of them as an old person thing (who knows, maybe related to being a kid during the Depression).
I mention this, because this was back in the '70s and early '80s, when obesity was much less common, even though all you can eat was definitely a thing.
McDonald's existed too, of course, and lots of other fast food restaurants. We went to them as a rare treat and ordered size appropriate food and did not get fat.
I still don't understand what the debate is supposed to be in this thread.
I don't want to bring the economic whereabouts into this, but different people were looking for a cheap meal to eat dinner, lunch, and breakfast.
You mean vs. 1980?0 -
billglitch wrote: »i could live without french fries....no matter where they come from
I could not. I'd take curly fries or waffle fries over the McDonald's variety, but french fries are one of those foods I need to have in my life. I eat them at least once a week probably.2 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »schlafentzug wrote: »Back in the day the French fries were delicious. Now they are horrible. I would not be inspired to eat unlimited fries.
In Australia the fries only have four ingredients - salt, potatoes, oil, and a preservative. I think they're alright. Not the best chips going but still pretty good.
Aren't they different in the US though?
I noticed the decline when the US went into this Trans Fat crap. After that the fries have this disgusting taste and when they are cold I throw them out. So I don't bother eating them.
I used to remember when you could eat them cold and they were great!
The "old days" is actually when they used the Trans Fat crap...
Well they should go back to that cuz whatever they are doing now the fries taste like cardboard. LOL
IMO don't police my eating habits by thinking you're doing what's best for me. Sorry I digressed on a whole different topic. LOL
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lemurcat12 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »While I am not a fan of McDonald's per se and haven't been there other than grabbing a coffee for years...I think the idea that all you can eat is why there is an obesity problem is missing the big picture. I guess we do live in a society that places zero on personal responsibility.
Exactly....
There are plenty of all you can eat places out there...I choose not to eat at them...namely because I am definitely a food snob where quality is concerned, and I've never had anything of quality at a buffet.
Right.
Thinking about this, I haven't been to an all you can eat place in forever, except for once in 2014 when a friend of mine insisted on having a birthday brunch at Shaw's Crab House. (Their unlimited brunch buffet actually does have lots of tasty options on it, and yet I still lost weight that week.)
We used to do all you can eat places much more when I was a kid than I ever have as an adult. I assumed they'd gone out of style, but probably it's location based or just the type of place I tend to choose now (I don't find "all you can eat" appealing, as I feel like I'm paying for something I don't want). Anyway, when I was a kid we'd go when my grandparents picked, and I always thought of them as an old person thing (who knows, maybe related to being a kid during the Depression).
I mention this, because this was back in the '70s and early '80s, when obesity was much less common, even though all you can eat was definitely a thing.
McDonald's existed too, of course, and lots of other fast food restaurants. We went to them as a rare treat and ordered size appropriate food and did not get fat.
I still don't understand what the debate is supposed to be in this thread.
I don't want to bring the economic whereabouts into this, but different people were looking for a cheap meal to eat dinner, lunch, and breakfast.
You mean vs. 1980?
More or less.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »schlafentzug wrote: »Back in the day the French fries were delicious. Now they are horrible. I would not be inspired to eat unlimited fries.
In Australia the fries only have four ingredients - salt, potatoes, oil, and a preservative. I think they're alright. Not the best chips going but still pretty good.
Aren't they different in the US though?
I noticed the decline when the US went into this Trans Fat crap. After that the fries have this disgusting taste and when they are cold I throw them out. So I don't bother eating them.
I used to remember when you could eat them cold and they were great!
The "old days" is actually when they used the Trans Fat crap...
Um no. The old days is when they used tallow (rendered beef fat). The idiots at CSPI hounded them to switch to vegetable shortening (aka trains fats) so the food would be "healthier". Spectacular fail. I wish they would go back to using tallow. Their fries were much tastier then.... But now I'm revealing my age
I don't eat mcd's often, but it is a nice option to have in certain circumstances. And it is extraordinarily easy to put together a meal that fits my goals - unsweetened iced tea, one or two double cheeseburgers, no bun, and (sometimes depending on how hungry I am) a side salad - perfect LCHF meal, and pretty darn cheap too. The quality isn't great of course, but what do you expect from a $1.50 burger?
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billglitch wrote: »i could live without french fries....no matter where they come from
I could not. I'd take curly fries or waffle fries over the McDonald's variety, but french fries are one of those foods I need to have in my life. I eat them at least once a week probably.
I love waffle fries from Chick-fil-a especially.3 -
I avoided McD's for years for the most part but now they have real eggs cracked and cooked in real butter I started going back since breakfast is now 24/7. They have No and Low carb choices. Most I see do order the High carb options. They will serve more meals a day than other place in our college town.
McD is as good or as bad as one wants it to be.
It does boggle my mind how many do not want to take responsibility for what they order and expect the government to limit what they can order!3 -
tlflag1620 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »schlafentzug wrote: »Back in the day the French fries were delicious. Now they are horrible. I would not be inspired to eat unlimited fries.
In Australia the fries only have four ingredients - salt, potatoes, oil, and a preservative. I think they're alright. Not the best chips going but still pretty good.
Aren't they different in the US though?
I noticed the decline when the US went into this Trans Fat crap. After that the fries have this disgusting taste and when they are cold I throw them out. So I don't bother eating them.
I used to remember when you could eat them cold and they were great!
The "old days" is actually when they used the Trans Fat crap...
Um no. The old days is when they used tallow (rendered beef fat). The idiots at CSPI hounded them to switch to vegetable shortening (aka trains fats) so the food would be "healthier". Spectacular fail. I wish they would go back to using tallow. Their fries were much tastier then.... But now I'm revealing my age
I don't eat mcd's often, but it is a nice option to have in certain circumstances. And it is extraordinarily easy to put together a meal that fits my goals - unsweetened iced tea, one or two double cheeseburgers, no bun, and (sometimes depending on how hungry I am) a side salad - perfect LCHF meal, and pretty darn cheap too. The quality isn't great of course, but what do you expect from a $1.50 burger?
I guess it depends on what you consider the "old days"....they don't use the vegetable shortening anymore...haven't in a long time. Fast food joints saw the righting on the wall with that a long time ago. Also, I don't think it was used so the food would be healthier...they used it because it's cheap and increased profit margins.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »tlflag1620 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »schlafentzug wrote: »Back in the day the French fries were delicious. Now they are horrible. I would not be inspired to eat unlimited fries.
In Australia the fries only have four ingredients - salt, potatoes, oil, and a preservative. I think they're alright. Not the best chips going but still pretty good.
Aren't they different in the US though?
I noticed the decline when the US went into this Trans Fat crap. After that the fries have this disgusting taste and when they are cold I throw them out. So I don't bother eating them.
I used to remember when you could eat them cold and they were great!
The "old days" is actually when they used the Trans Fat crap...
Um no. The old days is when they used tallow (rendered beef fat). The idiots at CSPI hounded them to switch to vegetable shortening (aka trains fats) so the food would be "healthier". Spectacular fail. I wish they would go back to using tallow. Their fries were much tastier then.... But now I'm revealing my age
I don't eat mcd's often, but it is a nice option to have in certain circumstances. And it is extraordinarily easy to put together a meal that fits my goals - unsweetened iced tea, one or two double cheeseburgers, no bun, and (sometimes depending on how hungry I am) a side salad - perfect LCHF meal, and pretty darn cheap too. The quality isn't great of course, but what do you expect from a $1.50 burger?
I guess it depends on what you consider the "old days"....they don't use the vegetable shortening anymore...haven't in a long time. Fast food joints saw the righting on the wall with that a long time ago. Also, I don't think it was used so the food would be healthier...they used it because it's cheap and increased profit margins.
I consider "old days" to the 70's. Yes I am oldish
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ReaderGirl3 wrote: »glenneric913 wrote: »Wow I'm shocked how anyone can eat McDonalds....I think the food tastes like bad cafeteria food. I'd rather eat some hand cut fries or a real hamburger at a pub or on the boardwalk any day over McDonalds. I've only eaten McDonalds a handful of times over the past 25+ years and each time it tasted terrible.
What tastes bad to one person is going to taste good to someone else. We go to Mcds a few times a month, I like their sandwiches (especially their Big Macs), though I'm not a big fan of their fries. My favorite fries are from Checkers and 5 Guys. 5 Guys gives you so many fries (literally dump them in a bag), so it's kind of like unlimited already
It's funny, without meaning to be ironic, my then 5 year old daughter called Five Guys - Fry Guys.
I thought it was funny and very appropriate because they give you a ton of fries!1 -
I guess McDonald's got tired of trying to reinvent itself as a healthy choice. Now it wants to horn and attract the "all you can eat buffet" crowd.0
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glenneric913 wrote: »Wow I'm shocked how anyone can eat McDonalds....I think the food tastes like bad cafeteria food. I'd rather eat some hand cut fries or a real hamburger at a pub or on the boardwalk any day over McDonalds. I've only eaten McDonalds a handful of times over the past 25+ years and each time it tasted terrible.
I shocked how people don't understand convenience and reliability. I prefer a lot of things but when I'm in a hurry, on a budget, or in an unfamiliar area, then McDonald's will do. It's not like I'm planning a nice night out when my girl and we choose McDonald's over the cool new gastropub2 -
glenneric913 wrote: »Totally understand personal preference...I shouldn't have based my comment solely on taste but added how unhealthy the food is (high fat, sodium, sugar, causes weight gain, artificial flavoring, processed meat, etc. etc.), yet with all the marketing people still eat it...especially folks on forums like this that are looking to get healthy. IMHO. If you absolutely love it, then eat in moderation as an occasional treat...we all have our guilty pleasures.
Causes weight gain? Unlike the food at the place with the hand-cut fries?3 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »schlafentzug wrote: »Back in the day the French fries were delicious. Now they are horrible. I would not be inspired to eat unlimited fries.
In Australia the fries only have four ingredients - salt, potatoes, oil, and a preservative. I think they're alright. Not the best chips going but still pretty good.
Aren't they different in the US though?
I noticed the decline when the US went into this Trans Fat crap. After that the fries have this disgusting taste and when they are cold I throw them out. So I don't bother eating them.
I used to remember when you could eat them cold and they were great!
The "old days" is actually when they used the Trans Fat crap...
That's what he means. The fries tasted much better in the old days when they used the trans fat. I completely agree. They taste crappy when they get cold now.0 -
The fatty in me would love to, just as much as I'd love to eat a pile of twinkies, or buy a pile of candy a day after a holiday and just binge on it. When I worked at Mc Donalds it was nothing to eat a large fries for my break with a burger, and I'd stuff the fries as full as I could.
It's not worth feeling like garbage an hour later though, and it's not worth the extra weight or calories in them. It's not worth the hours on the treadmill I'd have to go through or the giant carb glucose spike.
If I'm going to binge on anything I'll eat a bunch of mashed mock potato cauliflower, dark chocolate, almonds, bacon, eggs, beef jerky etc that will give me some nutritional value and some fiber.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »tlflag1620 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »schlafentzug wrote: »Back in the day the French fries were delicious. Now they are horrible. I would not be inspired to eat unlimited fries.
In Australia the fries only have four ingredients - salt, potatoes, oil, and a preservative. I think they're alright. Not the best chips going but still pretty good.
Aren't they different in the US though?
I noticed the decline when the US went into this Trans Fat crap. After that the fries have this disgusting taste and when they are cold I throw them out. So I don't bother eating them.
I used to remember when you could eat them cold and they were great!
The "old days" is actually when they used the Trans Fat crap...
Um no. The old days is when they used tallow (rendered beef fat). The idiots at CSPI hounded them to switch to vegetable shortening (aka trains fats) so the food would be "healthier". Spectacular fail. I wish they would go back to using tallow. Their fries were much tastier then.... But now I'm revealing my age
I don't eat mcd's often, but it is a nice option to have in certain circumstances. And it is extraordinarily easy to put together a meal that fits my goals - unsweetened iced tea, one or two double cheeseburgers, no bun, and (sometimes depending on how hungry I am) a side salad - perfect LCHF meal, and pretty darn cheap too. The quality isn't great of course, but what do you expect from a $1.50 burger?
I guess it depends on what you consider the "old days"....they don't use the vegetable shortening anymore...haven't in a long time. Fast food joints saw the righting on the wall with that a long time ago. Also, I don't think it was used so the food would be healthier...they used it because it's cheap and increased profit margins.
I guess the old days would be what they used from the time they opened up until they had pressure put on them from "experts". They did switch to trans fats to be "healthier". Perhaps you are too young to remember, but for quite a while margarine and vegetable shortening was promoted as being "healthier" than animal fat. We know (and have known for some time now) that that was simply false, but there was a period of time when we didn't know that. Not sure what they currently use, but I know it isn't tallow.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »schlafentzug wrote: »Back in the day the French fries were delicious. Now they are horrible. I would not be inspired to eat unlimited fries.
In Australia the fries only have four ingredients - salt, potatoes, oil, and a preservative. I think they're alright. Not the best chips going but still pretty good.
Aren't they different in the US though?
I noticed the decline when the US went into this Trans Fat crap. After that the fries have this disgusting taste and when they are cold I throw them out. So I don't bother eating them.
I used to remember when you could eat them cold and they were great!
The "old days" is actually when they used the Trans Fat crap...
That's what he means. The fries tasted much better in the old days when they used the trans fat. I completely agree. They taste crappy when they get cold now.
No I meant back (in ancient times I suppose, lol) when they used beef tallow. They haven't tasted the same since
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jofjltncb6 wrote: »michellemybelll wrote: »McD's is getting desperate 'eh? Trying to give it away now.
Know how I know you don't understand marketing?
please do enlighten me.0
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