What Do You Think of the "Free to Be Hairy" Movement
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Excellent discussion, plus an impressive array of cool big words.
As I thought about the OP's question, I realized my personal choice is to follow pro hair shaving/waxing society norms for two reasons:
1) Fear of being outcast or unloved because of social norm violation -- I'm standing in line right now to get my "sheeple" tattoo.
2) Sliding my freshly waxed legs or other parts together or against other things feels really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, good.3 -
MsAmandaNJ wrote: »
Are you going to add anything constructive or just repeat yourself?_incogNEATo_ wrote: »it's gross
I'm just posting my thoughts on the subject. It may not be constructive to you, but that's probably because you're of the opposite opinion. It's okay.
And since it's a debatable subject, I don't think it's justified to flag the post for posting my opinion.3 -
@Jonesingmucho No need to feel like a sheep. You made your own choice to follow the norm. I'm happy about that. You recognize that there is pressure to shave and choose to have silky smooth legs :-) What bothers me is when people insist that it's just how they are, as if they were born with the innate urge to remove the body hair they were born with, rather than see the pressure.5
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_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »
Are you going to add anything constructive or just repeat yourself?_incogNEATo_ wrote: »it's gross
I'm just posting my thoughts on the subject. It may not be constructive to you, but that's probably because you're of the opposite opinion. It's okay.
And since it's a debatable subject, I don't think it's justified to flag the post for posting my opinion.
First off, I didn't flag your post, maybe someone else is tired of you. So far your thoughts have been "gross" and "it's gross". You said it once, no need to repeat yourself. Maybe you forgot you already responded. If that's the case, I apologize. Did I say anything the first time you said gross? Just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it's constructive.1 -
I've lived in Europe for so long, here pretty much everyone is just ok with body hair.
When I see shaved people like in the US, its too plastic looking to me, unatural and obsessively clean look.0 -
MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »
Are you going to add anything constructive or just repeat yourself?_incogNEATo_ wrote: »it's gross
I'm just posting my thoughts on the subject. It may not be constructive to you, but that's probably because you're of the opposite opinion. It's okay.
And since it's a debatable subject, I don't think it's justified to flag the post for posting my opinion.
First off, I didn't flag your post, maybe someone else is tired of you. So far your thoughts have been "gross" and "it's gross". You said it once, no need to repeat yourself. Maybe you forgot you already responded. If that's the case, I apologize. Did I say anything the first time you said gross? Just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it's constructive.
I didn't say you flagged it. That's why I dropped down a line. If I was accusing you, I would have directed it right at you. You COULD stop taking it so personal though. To be one of the posters that doesn't care what others think, you sure are defensive.0 -
_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »
Are you going to add anything constructive or just repeat yourself?_incogNEATo_ wrote: »it's gross
I'm just posting my thoughts on the subject. It may not be constructive to you, but that's probably because you're of the opposite opinion. It's okay.
And since it's a debatable subject, I don't think it's justified to flag the post for posting my opinion.
First off, I didn't flag your post, maybe someone else is tired of you. So far your thoughts have been "gross" and "it's gross". You said it once, no need to repeat yourself. Maybe you forgot you already responded. If that's the case, I apologize. Did I say anything the first time you said gross? Just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it's constructive.
I didn't say you flagged it. That's why I dropped down a line. If I was accusing you, I would have directed it right at you. You COULD stop taking it so personal though. To be one of the posters that doesn't care what others think, you sure are defensive.
It was in a post directed at me, that's why I took it as an accusation. I'm not taking it personally, I just felt the thread could use less trolling.0 -
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_A_Real_Mouthful wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »@Jonesingmucho No need to feel like a sheep. You made your own choice to follow the norm. I'm happy about that. You recognize that there is pressure to shave and choose to have silky smooth legs :-) What bothers me is when people insist that it's just how they are, as if they were born with the innate urge to remove the body hair they were born with, rather than see the pressure.
peer pressure ain't all bad though. if not for peer pressure we all still be out dropping a duke on the grass in the front yard. like cavemen.
least i would.
Totally agree. It's not all bad. The key is to make an informed decision rather than blindly follow.0 -
MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »
Are you going to add anything constructive or just repeat yourself?_incogNEATo_ wrote: »it's gross
I'm just posting my thoughts on the subject. It may not be constructive to you, but that's probably because you're of the opposite opinion. It's okay.
And since it's a debatable subject, I don't think it's justified to flag the post for posting my opinion.
First off, I didn't flag your post, maybe someone else is tired of you. So far your thoughts have been "gross" and "it's gross". You said it once, no need to repeat yourself. Maybe you forgot you already responded. If that's the case, I apologize. Did I say anything the first time you said gross? Just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it's constructive.
I didn't say you flagged it. That's why I dropped down a line. If I was accusing you, I would have directed it right at you. You COULD stop taking it so personal though. To be one of the posters that doesn't care what others think, you sure are defensive.
It was in a post directed at me, that's why I took it as an accusation. I'm not taking it personally, I just felt the thread could use less trolling.
I'm a troll because I posted my displeasure in women taking a natural approach to hair growth (twice)?2 -
It's not my thing...my wife also appreciates that I keep things trimmed and tidy as well (though not fully shaved). Really, who the F cares? I personally don't find anything attractive about arm pit hair or leg hair on a woman...I'm sure some people do. Some women don't like my goatee...big whup.2
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_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »
Are you going to add anything constructive or just repeat yourself?_incogNEATo_ wrote: »it's gross
I'm just posting my thoughts on the subject. It may not be constructive to you, but that's probably because you're of the opposite opinion. It's okay.
And since it's a debatable subject, I don't think it's justified to flag the post for posting my opinion.
First off, I didn't flag your post, maybe someone else is tired of you. So far your thoughts have been "gross" and "it's gross". You said it once, no need to repeat yourself. Maybe you forgot you already responded. If that's the case, I apologize. Did I say anything the first time you said gross? Just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it's constructive.
I didn't say you flagged it. That's why I dropped down a line. If I was accusing you, I would have directed it right at you. You COULD stop taking it so personal though. To be one of the posters that doesn't care what others think, you sure are defensive.
It was in a post directed at me, that's why I took it as an accusation. I'm not taking it personally, I just felt the thread could use less trolling.
I'm a troll because I posted my displeasure in women taking a natural approach to hair growth (twice)?
Nope, you're a troll because I've seen you be one. I find it telling that you choose not to respond to what I've said.-1 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »It's not my thing...my wife also appreciates that I keep things trimmed and tidy as well (though not fully shaved). Really, who the F cares? I personally don't find anything attractive about arm pit hair or leg hair on a woman...I'm sure some people do. Some women don't like my goatee...big whup.
Many people in this thread seem to care.4 -
MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »
Are you going to add anything constructive or just repeat yourself?_incogNEATo_ wrote: »it's gross
I'm just posting my thoughts on the subject. It may not be constructive to you, but that's probably because you're of the opposite opinion. It's okay.
And since it's a debatable subject, I don't think it's justified to flag the post for posting my opinion.
First off, I didn't flag your post, maybe someone else is tired of you. So far your thoughts have been "gross" and "it's gross". You said it once, no need to repeat yourself. Maybe you forgot you already responded. If that's the case, I apologize. Did I say anything the first time you said gross? Just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it's constructive.
I didn't say you flagged it. That's why I dropped down a line. If I was accusing you, I would have directed it right at you. You COULD stop taking it so personal though. To be one of the posters that doesn't care what others think, you sure are defensive.
It was in a post directed at me, that's why I took it as an accusation. I'm not taking it personally, I just felt the thread could use less trolling.
I'm a troll because I posted my displeasure in women taking a natural approach to hair growth (twice)?
Nope, you're a troll because I've seen you be one. I find it telling that you choose not to respond to what I've said.
Respond to what you said about what? I will gladly respond to whatever you need me to address.
OR, you can try accepting that not everybody feels the same way as you do regarding hair on women or hair in general. I have enough hair on my back to weave an Indian blanket, but I don't find it very liberating at all. It's gross to me, but I don't have arms long enough to shave it. Sometimes I can talk my wife into doing it.
What else should I respond to?0 -
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_A_Real_Mouthful wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »
Are you going to add anything constructive or just repeat yourself?_incogNEATo_ wrote: »it's gross
I'm just posting my thoughts on the subject. It may not be constructive to you, but that's probably because you're of the opposite opinion. It's okay.
And since it's a debatable subject, I don't think it's justified to flag the post for posting my opinion.
First off, I didn't flag your post, maybe someone else is tired of you. So far your thoughts have been "gross" and "it's gross". You said it once, no need to repeat yourself. Maybe you forgot you already responded. If that's the case, I apologize. Did I say anything the first time you said gross? Just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it's constructive.
I didn't say you flagged it. That's why I dropped down a line. If I was accusing you, I would have directed it right at you. You COULD stop taking it so personal though. To be one of the posters that doesn't care what others think, you sure are defensive.
It was in a post directed at me, that's why I took it as an accusation. I'm not taking it personally, I just felt the thread could use less trolling.
I'm a troll because I posted my displeasure in women taking a natural approach to hair growth (twice)?
Nope, you're a troll because I've seen you be one. I find it telling that you choose not to respond to what I've said.
Respond to what you said about what? I will gladly respond to whatever you need me to address.
OR, you can try accepting that not everybody feels the same way as you do regarding hair on women or hair in general. I have enough hair on my back to weave an Indian blanket, but I don't find it very liberating at all. It's gross to me, but I don't have arms long enough to shave it. Sometimes I can talk my wife into doing it.
What else should I respond to?
Tried one: worthless. It gets it, but not close enough. Then I just look like that guy who tried to shave his back but didn't get it close enough.1 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »It's not my thing...my wife also appreciates that I keep things trimmed and tidy as well (though not fully shaved). Really, who the F cares? I personally don't find anything attractive about arm pit hair or leg hair on a woman...I'm sure some people do. Some women don't like my goatee...big whup.
Shaved but not fully shaved? I'd ask for more details to fill in my imaginary visual but I get in enough trouble around here.
OK.... now I'm thinking shaved into the shape of a heart or triangle and then that big "whup"....
See what you started?!
@cwolfman13 The way I am picturing you right now is 100% NewMeadow's fault. I don't have to accept blame. Sheeple are led. You look goooood btw2 -
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Jonesingmucho wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »It's not my thing...my wife also appreciates that I keep things trimmed and tidy as well (though not fully shaved). Really, who the F cares? I personally don't find anything attractive about arm pit hair or leg hair on a woman...I'm sure some people do. Some women don't like my goatee...big whup.
Shaved but not fully shaved? I'd ask for more details to fill in my imaginary visual but I get in enough trouble around here.
OK.... now I'm thinking shaved into the shape of a heart or triangle and then that big "whup"....
See what you started?!
@cwolfman13 The way I am picturing you right now is 100% NewMeadow's fault. I don't have to accept blame. Sheeple are led. You look goooood btw
LOL...my life likes me to just be nicely trimmed down stairs...she likes me to keep my chin goatee tight and short and no other facial hair. I grew a full beard once and I thought I was never going to get any nookie ever again.diannethegeek wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »It's not my thing...my wife also appreciates that I keep things trimmed and tidy as well (though not fully shaved). Really, who the F cares? I personally don't find anything attractive about arm pit hair or leg hair on a woman...I'm sure some people do. Some women don't like my goatee...big whup.
Many people in this thread seem to care.
Yeah, I don't get it...2 -
_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »
Are you going to add anything constructive or just repeat yourself?_incogNEATo_ wrote: »it's gross
I'm just posting my thoughts on the subject. It may not be constructive to you, but that's probably because you're of the opposite opinion. It's okay.
And since it's a debatable subject, I don't think it's justified to flag the post for posting my opinion.
First off, I didn't flag your post, maybe someone else is tired of you. So far your thoughts have been "gross" and "it's gross". You said it once, no need to repeat yourself. Maybe you forgot you already responded. If that's the case, I apologize. Did I say anything the first time you said gross? Just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it's constructive.
I didn't say you flagged it. That's why I dropped down a line. If I was accusing you, I would have directed it right at you. You COULD stop taking it so personal though. To be one of the posters that doesn't care what others think, you sure are defensive.
It was in a post directed at me, that's why I took it as an accusation. I'm not taking it personally, I just felt the thread could use less trolling.
I'm a troll because I posted my displeasure in women taking a natural approach to hair growth (twice)?
Nope, you're a troll because I've seen you be one. I find it telling that you choose not to respond to what I've said.
Respond to what you said about what? I will gladly respond to whatever you need me to address.
OR, you can try accepting that not everybody feels the same way as you do regarding hair on women or hair in general. I have enough hair on my back to weave an Indian blanket, but I don't find it very liberating at all. It's gross to me, but I don't have arms long enough to shave it. Sometimes I can talk my wife into doing it.
What else should I respond to?
Did you forget you already posted?
Did I say anything the first time you posted "gross"?
I accept that not everyone agrees with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, that includes me and you. You do not find your back hair liberating (I doubt my husband does either). At first, I felt empowered by not shaving my legs. Now it's just my way of life. I've not once pressured people into not shaving, only shared my opinion and (hopefully) opened some eyes/minds. An example of being constructive.3 -
MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »
Are you going to add anything constructive or just repeat yourself?_incogNEATo_ wrote: »it's gross
I'm just posting my thoughts on the subject. It may not be constructive to you, but that's probably because you're of the opposite opinion. It's okay.
And since it's a debatable subject, I don't think it's justified to flag the post for posting my opinion.
First off, I didn't flag your post, maybe someone else is tired of you. So far your thoughts have been "gross" and "it's gross". You said it once, no need to repeat yourself. Maybe you forgot you already responded. If that's the case, I apologize. Did I say anything the first time you said gross? Just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it's constructive.
I didn't say you flagged it. That's why I dropped down a line. If I was accusing you, I would have directed it right at you. You COULD stop taking it so personal though. To be one of the posters that doesn't care what others think, you sure are defensive.
It was in a post directed at me, that's why I took it as an accusation. I'm not taking it personally, I just felt the thread could use less trolling.
I'm a troll because I posted my displeasure in women taking a natural approach to hair growth (twice)?
Nope, you're a troll because I've seen you be one. I find it telling that you choose not to respond to what I've said.
Respond to what you said about what? I will gladly respond to whatever you need me to address.
OR, you can try accepting that not everybody feels the same way as you do regarding hair on women or hair in general. I have enough hair on my back to weave an Indian blanket, but I don't find it very liberating at all. It's gross to me, but I don't have arms long enough to shave it. Sometimes I can talk my wife into doing it.
What else should I respond to?
Did you forget you already posted?
Did I say anything the first time you posted "gross"?
I accept that not everyone agrees with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, that includes me and you. You do not find your back hair liberating (I doubt my husband does either). At first, I felt empowered by not shaving my legs. Now it's just my way of life. I've not once pressured people into not shaving, only shared my opinion and (hopefully) opened some eyes/minds. An example of being constructive.
I don't follow you around to see where all you post, so I don't know if you said anything the first time I posted or not. The glory of the internet is that I can post as many times as I'd like (except for when I'm in MFP jail and have to wait every 150 seconds).
I never said anything about your opinion. If you can accept that is my opinion, why have you called me a troll on two different occasions? Is it SOOO unbelievable that you think I'm just trolling? Another example of being constructive is stating opinions that may not be popular. In this case, me saying it's gross is not the popular opinion and I'm probably considered to be mean or in your words (twice), "a troll." You've repeated yourself now on several occasions. We all know how it's just your way of life now because you've said it more times than I've said, "gross."
If you'd like to move on now with our difference of opinions, we can. No apologies are necessary from you.2 -
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I look at it the same way I do speech, religion, etc.
The moment I dictate something to you, is the moment you're allowed to return the "favor".
Shave or don't shave. Trim or don't trim. If something as small as that is keeping you from associating with another person, then the problem is you.1 -
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don't shave in the winter; shave in the summer. that's my compromise. Couldn't ever come to terms with the enormous waste of time spent shaving when arms and legs are covered up all day. I wouldn't shave in summer either, except my look is not hippie...it's office professional. I can't quite see hairy legs with gray pencil skirt and heels. In high school I missed out on some summer fun because: spontaneous pool party, and ack! I had 2 day stubble and can't possibly be seen like that! Don't give a flip anymore.0
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_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »
Are you going to add anything constructive or just repeat yourself?_incogNEATo_ wrote: »it's gross
I'm just posting my thoughts on the subject. It may not be constructive to you, but that's probably because you're of the opposite opinion. It's okay.
And since it's a debatable subject, I don't think it's justified to flag the post for posting my opinion.
First off, I didn't flag your post, maybe someone else is tired of you. So far your thoughts have been "gross" and "it's gross". You said it once, no need to repeat yourself. Maybe you forgot you already responded. If that's the case, I apologize. Did I say anything the first time you said gross? Just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it's constructive.
I didn't say you flagged it. That's why I dropped down a line. If I was accusing you, I would have directed it right at you. You COULD stop taking it so personal though. To be one of the posters that doesn't care what others think, you sure are defensive.
It was in a post directed at me, that's why I took it as an accusation. I'm not taking it personally, I just felt the thread could use less trolling.
I'm a troll because I posted my displeasure in women taking a natural approach to hair growth (twice)?
Nope, you're a troll because I've seen you be one. I find it telling that you choose not to respond to what I've said.
Respond to what you said about what? I will gladly respond to whatever you need me to address.
OR, you can try accepting that not everybody feels the same way as you do regarding hair on women or hair in general. I have enough hair on my back to weave an Indian blanket, but I don't find it very liberating at all. It's gross to me, but I don't have arms long enough to shave it. Sometimes I can talk my wife into doing it.
What else should I respond to?
Did you forget you already posted?
Did I say anything the first time you posted "gross"?
I accept that not everyone agrees with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, that includes me and you. You do not find your back hair liberating (I doubt my husband does either). At first, I felt empowered by not shaving my legs. Now it's just my way of life. I've not once pressured people into not shaving, only shared my opinion and (hopefully) opened some eyes/minds. An example of being constructive.
I don't follow you around to see where all you post, so I don't know if you said anything the first time I posted or not. The glory of the internet is that I can post as many times as I'd like (except for when I'm in MFP jail and have to wait every 150 seconds).
I never said anything about your opinion. If you can accept that is my opinion, why have you called me a troll on two different occasions? Is it SOOO unbelievable that you think I'm just trolling? Another example of being constructive is stating opinions that may not be popular. In this case, me saying it's gross is not the popular opinion and I'm probably considered to be mean or in your words (twice), "a troll." You've repeated yourself now on several occasions. We all know how it's just your way of life now because you've said it more times than I've said, "gross."
If you'd like to move on now with our difference of opinions, we can. No apologies are necessary from you.
I'm done with you, that's fine. I only apologize when it's warranted.4
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