Why is being a stripper bad?
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Come here to Reno, NV for a case study.
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alleyneagle193 wrote: »Okay just to clarify yes I want to be a pole dancer but where I'm from it's all considered the same thing I'm sorry for the mix up I'll watch technicalities next time
Just for clarity...
Pole dancer the athlete/artist (which apparently is a thing), or pole dancer the entertainer?
Pole dancer paid to be stared at. But not naked, because that's just not classy. right?0 -
alleyneagle193 wrote: »I've been wondering why being a stripper is bad because I honestly want to be a stripper. They make really good money and can wear really cute clothes. I see nothing morally wrong with being a stripper unless you have kids... Then you should probably get a better job. What do you think?
Your young enough to be my daughter so let me explain this too you as if I was talking to my daughter. Your young and beautiful but you do not yet have the life experience of someone who is older and who has been around the block a few times. I believe that you are much more valuable than to let yourself be drawn into that world. It is a very dark world filled with many unsavory characters who are looking to only use you and take advantage of you. My of these women, whom I have know personally, have drug habits and end up doing things much worse than stripping .. like prostitution and worse.
Even if it didn't lead to drugs and prostitution why would you want to lower yourself to be someone who is objectified and treated like a piece of meat. Many of these women have lasting emotional and psychological damage from their experiences in strip clubs and bars. They are left feeling empty and broken inside. Some have even been followed after work and raped or even killed. You have to understand the male mind to be able to comprehend what you are opening yourself up to. If a man is paying you to take off your clothes than you are of absolutely no value to him.. you are the lowest form of life around. That means for some that they develop a feeling of possession over you and can demonstrate stalkerish behavior. It can end up being a nightmare that you might not wake up from.
You also should consider your long term future. Stripping is not really a path way to success.. the money will not last forever and what are you going to do when your looks fade ? Everyone ages and nothing stays the same. I would encourage your to goto college and get an education that will help you earn a living for the rest of your life.
You should also think about your future husband or kids and how you might feel if they ever found out that their mom was a stripper. Everything goes on the internet today and once its out there it stays out there.. think about your family today.. your mother and your father.. Have you considered how much you might hurt them if they found out what you are doing ?
Paternalism at its best.
Didn't we do a mansplaining thread earlier?
"Think of the men!" sheez dude, really?2 -
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Call over to me at 9 tonight . Id like a private dance from you Ali ;-)0 -
This thread is really taking off.
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finny11122 wrote: »
Call over to me at 9 tonight . Id like a private dance from you Ali ;-)
I'll be elbow deep in cake frosting by then so might be a little sticky!0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »And not all strippers are great pole dancers - you can make just as much gliding around the stage looking hot as you can doing impressive moves on the pole. Plus, pole dancing can result in unsightly bruises and brush burns - not great for the appearance when you work mostly naked and the pole is shared so if you're a germ-phobe like me that's a deterrent.
This idea that you can't resist the lure of drugs is so ridiculous though. If you're prone to addiction - it's everywhere - nurses become addicts, high school kids become addicts, housewives. I never found adult work to tempt me to do substances. They aren't my thing.
The environment as a whole is going to cater to drug use far more than working in a doctors office of whatever. Yes, there are addicts everywhere...but one is more apt to use and abuse in an environment that is conducive to that...c'mon.
I disagree. What I found was that since people knew I wasn't into it no one offered me anything or even did it in front of me. I've got non adult-working friends who are total potheads and/or hard drinkers. I think you're basing your opinions on stereotypes you've seen in the media. Until you've worked in the industry you really don't know what goes on. The crackhead stereotype always gets the most attention because it's a salacious image and it plays into our cultural negativity around the adult industries. It doesn't mean it's the norm.
Sorry...I've been around it and seen it...nothing to do with the media.
I'm not saying that one can't avoid it...but to say that it's not more prevalent in that environment is just a load of horse *kitten*.3 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »And not all strippers are great pole dancers - you can make just as much gliding around the stage looking hot as you can doing impressive moves on the pole. Plus, pole dancing can result in unsightly bruises and brush burns - not great for the appearance when you work mostly naked and the pole is shared so if you're a germ-phobe like me that's a deterrent.
This idea that you can't resist the lure of drugs is so ridiculous though. If you're prone to addiction - it's everywhere - nurses become addicts, high school kids become addicts, housewives. I never found adult work to tempt me to do substances. They aren't my thing.
The environment as a whole is going to cater to drug use far more than working in a doctors office of whatever. Yes, there are addicts everywhere...but one is more apt to use and abuse in an environment that is conducive to that...c'mon.
I disagree. What I found was that since people knew I wasn't into it no one offered me anything or even did it in front of me. I've got non adult-working friends who are total potheads and/or hard drinkers. I think you're basing your opinions on stereotypes you've seen in the media. Until you've worked in the industry you really don't know what goes on. The crackhead stereotype always gets the most attention because it's a salacious image and it plays into our cultural negativity around the adult industries. It doesn't mean it's the norm.
I have a few friends who were in the industry and their experience was very different from yours.
Either you're full of crap or you were lucky. In all seriousness, while I don't make moral judgments on this, it isn't an easy thing to do for many reasons that have nothing to do with morality. Having complete strangers who care nothing for you ogle your body, touch you when they can get away with it, proposition you, offer money for sex, on and on and on and that environment take a toll on people.
Pretending it doesn't is dishonest.5 -
finny11122 wrote: »
Call over to me at 9 tonight . Id like a private dance from you Ali ;-)
I'll be elbow deep in cake frosting by then so might be a little sticky!
Will there be a video stream of this?0 -
finny11122 wrote: »
Call over to me at 9 tonight . Id like a private dance from you Ali ;-)
I'll be elbow deep in cake frosting by then so might be a little sticky!
You can suggestively lick the frosting off your fingers . That will work wonders1 -
finny11122 wrote: »
Call over to me at 9 tonight . Id like a private dance from you Ali ;-)
I'll be elbow deep in cake frosting by then so might be a little sticky!
Will there be a video stream of this?
Talk to @finny11122 apparently he's the one paying for my dance.
wait....is frosting classy? I need to know I'm a classy broad after all2 -
finny11122 wrote: »
Call over to me at 9 tonight . Id like a private dance from you Ali ;-)
I'll be elbow deep in cake frosting by then so might be a little sticky!
Will there be a video stream of this?
Talk to @finny11122 apparently he's the one paying for my dance.
wait....is frosting classy? I need to know I'm a classy broad after all
All broads are classy. Hussy's are not.0 -
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finny11122 wrote: »
Call over to me at 9 tonight . Id like a private dance from you Ali ;-)
I'll be elbow deep in cake frosting by then so might be a little sticky!
Will there be a video stream of this?
Talk to @finny11122 apparently he's the one paying for my dance.
wait....is frosting classy? I need to know I'm a classy broad after all
Do you have kids? Because that's important too. One should only be wrist deep in frosting if one has kids.
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finny11122 wrote: »
Call over to me at 9 tonight . Id like a private dance from you Ali ;-)
I'll be elbow deep in cake frosting by then so might be a little sticky!
Will there be a video stream of this?
Talk to @finny11122 apparently he's the one paying for my dance.
wait....is frosting classy? I need to know I'm a classy broad after all
Do you have kids? Because that's important too. One should only be wrist deep in frosting if one has kids.
I have 1 child. So I'm probably ok cause kids is plural and mine is singular so...phew...safe!0 -
finny11122 wrote: »
Call over to me at 9 tonight . Id like a private dance from you Ali ;-)
I'll be elbow deep in cake frosting by then so might be a little sticky!
Will there be a video stream of this?
Talk to @finny11122 apparently he's the one paying for my dance.
wait....is frosting classy? I need to know I'm a classy broad after all
You are a classy babe . But i aint paying . The pleasure of my company is enough pay0 -
Where's the OP? Has she deserted us as we all discuss the merits/non-merits of stripping? Just curious as someone mentioned this might be a troll thread of sorts.0
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EvgeniZyntx wrote: »alleyneagle193 wrote: »I've been wondering why being a stripper is bad because I honestly want to be a stripper. They make really good money and can wear really cute clothes. I see nothing morally wrong with being a stripper unless you have kids... Then you should probably get a better job. What do you think?
Your young enough to be my daughter so let me explain this too you as if I was talking to my daughter. Your young and beautiful but you do not yet have the life experience of someone who is older and who has been around the block a few times. I believe that you are much more valuable than to let yourself be drawn into that world. It is a very dark world filled with many unsavory characters who are looking to only use you and take advantage of you. My of these women, whom I have know personally, have drug habits and end up doing things much worse than stripping .. like prostitution and worse.
Even if it didn't lead to drugs and prostitution why would you want to lower yourself to be someone who is objectified and treated like a piece of meat. Many of these women have lasting emotional and psychological damage from their experiences in strip clubs and bars. They are left feeling empty and broken inside. Some have even been followed after work and raped or even killed. You have to understand the male mind to be able to comprehend what you are opening yourself up to. If a man is paying you to take off your clothes than you are of absolutely no value to him.. you are the lowest form of life around. That means for some that they develop a feeling of possession over you and can demonstrate stalkerish behavior. It can end up being a nightmare that you might not wake up from.
You also should consider your long term future. Stripping is not really a path way to success.. the money will not last forever and what are you going to do when your looks fade ? Everyone ages and nothing stays the same. I would encourage your to goto college and get an education that will help you earn a living for the rest of your life.
You should also think about your future husband or kids and how you might feel if they ever found out that their mom was a stripper. Everything goes on the internet today and once its out there it stays out there.. think about your family today.. your mother and your father.. Have you considered how much you might hurt them if they found out what you are doing ?
Paternalism at its best.
Didn't we do a mansplaining thread earlier?
"Think of the men!" sheez dude, really?
In a nut shell think of your clientele and how you will be viewed.. think of the danger. If that is wrong I never want to be right !!!0 -
Be careful with the frosting, it can get sticky.1
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Char231023 wrote: »Be careful with the frosting, it can get sticky.
Isn't that just the icing on the cake2 -
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Char231023 wrote: »Be careful with the frosting, it can get sticky.
Isn't that just the icing on the cake
You are correct Kat.0 -
Wysewoman53 wrote: »Where's the OP? Has she deserted us as we all discuss the merits/non-merits of stripping? Just curious as someone mentioned this might be a troll thread of sorts.
OP has responded a number of times in the thread.0 -
Nothing.
Just be careful of the weirdos. A strip club maybe better than private, unless you have someone to tag along for security.
My cousin was for a while and she came across many creepy people. Our uncle and her brother played bouncer for her several times.
Am I the only one freaked out about the thought of my uncle or brother watching me dance naked? Well it's freaky thinking about anybody I'm not intimate with seeing me naked, but male family members? Yikes. LOL.4 -
EvgeniZyntx wrote: »alleyneagle193 wrote: »I've been wondering why being a stripper is bad because I honestly want to be a stripper. They make really good money and can wear really cute clothes. I see nothing morally wrong with being a stripper unless you have kids... Then you should probably get a better job. What do you think?
Your young enough to be my daughter so let me explain this too you as if I was talking to my daughter. Your young and beautiful but you do not yet have the life experience of someone who is older and who has been around the block a few times. I believe that you are much more valuable than to let yourself be drawn into that world. It is a very dark world filled with many unsavory characters who are looking to only use you and take advantage of you. My of these women, whom I have know personally, have drug habits and end up doing things much worse than stripping .. like prostitution and worse.
Even if it didn't lead to drugs and prostitution why would you want to lower yourself to be someone who is objectified and treated like a piece of meat. Many of these women have lasting emotional and psychological damage from their experiences in strip clubs and bars. They are left feeling empty and broken inside. Some have even been followed after work and raped or even killed. You have to understand the male mind to be able to comprehend what you are opening yourself up to. If a man is paying you to take off your clothes than you are of absolutely no value to him.. you are the lowest form of life around. That means for some that they develop a feeling of possession over you and can demonstrate stalkerish behavior. It can end up being a nightmare that you might not wake up from.
You also should consider your long term future. Stripping is not really a path way to success.. the money will not last forever and what are you going to do when your looks fade ? Everyone ages and nothing stays the same. I would encourage your to goto college and get an education that will help you earn a living for the rest of your life.
You should also think about your future husband or kids and how you might feel if they ever found out that their mom was a stripper. Everything goes on the internet today and once its out there it stays out there.. think about your family today.. your mother and your father.. Have you considered how much you might hurt them if they found out what you are doing ?
Paternalism at its best.
Didn't we do a mansplaining thread earlier?
"Think of the men!" sheez dude, really?
In a nut shell think of your clientele and how you will be viewed.. think of the danger. If that is wrong I never want to be right !!!
All well and good, but you aren't her father or even have an inkling of what she has or has not as a life experience. All that is just presumption paternalistic BS.
I mean you seem to know many women personally that are strippers, drug addicts and prostitutes. Or so you say. What kind of moral code are you navigating that places you in close personal association but at the same type hypercritical of the self-determination of what and how a young woman positions her body.
Are you truly criticising the profession from the close proximity of experience? That's like a john critiquing the "hooker lifestyle".2 -
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EvgeniZyntx wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »alleyneagle193 wrote: »I've been wondering why being a stripper is bad because I honestly want to be a stripper. They make really good money and can wear really cute clothes. I see nothing morally wrong with being a stripper unless you have kids... Then you should probably get a better job. What do you think?
Your young enough to be my daughter so let me explain this too you as if I was talking to my daughter. Your young and beautiful but you do not yet have the life experience of someone who is older and who has been around the block a few times. I believe that you are much more valuable than to let yourself be drawn into that world. It is a very dark world filled with many unsavory characters who are looking to only use you and take advantage of you. My of these women, whom I have know personally, have drug habits and end up doing things much worse than stripping .. like prostitution and worse.
Even if it didn't lead to drugs and prostitution why would you want to lower yourself to be someone who is objectified and treated like a piece of meat. Many of these women have lasting emotional and psychological damage from their experiences in strip clubs and bars. They are left feeling empty and broken inside. Some have even been followed after work and raped or even killed. You have to understand the male mind to be able to comprehend what you are opening yourself up to. If a man is paying you to take off your clothes than you are of absolutely no value to him.. you are the lowest form of life around. That means for some that they develop a feeling of possession over you and can demonstrate stalkerish behavior. It can end up being a nightmare that you might not wake up from.
You also should consider your long term future. Stripping is not really a path way to success.. the money will not last forever and what are you going to do when your looks fade ? Everyone ages and nothing stays the same. I would encourage your to goto college and get an education that will help you earn a living for the rest of your life.
You should also think about your future husband or kids and how you might feel if they ever found out that their mom was a stripper. Everything goes on the internet today and once its out there it stays out there.. think about your family today.. your mother and your father.. Have you considered how much you might hurt them if they found out what you are doing ?
Paternalism at its best.
Didn't we do a mansplaining thread earlier?
"Think of the men!" sheez dude, really?
In a nut shell think of your clientele and how you will be viewed.. think of the danger. If that is wrong I never want to be right !!!
All well and good, but you aren't her father or even have an inkling of what she has or has not as a life experience. All that is just presumption paternalistic BS.
I mean you seem to know many women personally that are strippers, drug addicts and prostitutes. Or so you say. What kind of moral code are you navigating that places you in close personal association but at the same type hypercritical of the self-determination of what and how a young woman positions her body.
Are you truly criticising the profession from the close proximity of experience? That's like a john critiquing the "hooker lifestyle".
Dad said keep it classy.
My ex husband had a friend who'd go regularly and would tip $100 at a time because he felt he was helping them out. not all clientele are seedy lowlifes.1
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