Why is being a stripper bad?
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I find that paying off student loans is crazy sexy, hot. I knew this girl: and she was a great dancer, and she was totally ripped, and she got a student loan to pay for college, and now, she has like: a great job, where she is respected and she is surrounded by friends and family that respect her and her life choices. Just an option. It's not for everyone.
PS- she is salary and bonus eligible so, she purchases all the "cute clothes" you can possibly imagine, girl! Stay in school.3 -
I made money off my body too....playing football. Fun but injuries. As long as client's not allowed to touch you, its all good. Just work at a classy club (No side work ) Doorman adult clubs 15 years0
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Drugs, alcohol, prostitution, organized crime, scum bags, STD's and all the things that go along with those things. Other than that...3
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Do it and enjoy it. Read the blog "surviving the club" for inspiration. https://survivetheclub.wordpress.com/category/most-popular/ I hear people say you narrow your choice of partners in future - yep, to non small minded ones. As for alcohol fuelled environments - been to any pubs lately? If you're a tough cookie with strong boundaries and an unshakeable sense of self respect, youll do fine.
I always wanted to date a dancer but was too shy to ask.0 -
Did we ever get an answer and did the OP find her job of choice?0
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be careful what you ask for0
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it was bad for me...couldn't make a nickle.4
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Packerjohn wrote: »alleyneagle193 wrote: »
Really CLASSY I'm not taking it all off. That's is what I consider degrading.sunn_lighter wrote: »alleyneagle193 wrote: »AmandaHugginkiss wrote: »So you want to be a stripper who doesn't strip. And you say Mom strippers are bad and gross. You're going to be REALLY popular at work.
Well obviously I'd strip just not down to nothing. I'd keep some things on
wtf
i want my money back
Down to that level
Nobody paying for that level. Can see that on any public beach.
Very true. Some swimming suits cover less.0 -
ArmyofAdrian wrote: »Drugs, alcohol, prostitution, organized crime, scum bags, STD's and all the things that go along with those things. Other than that...
I think I have seen elements of that in every job I have had. One can choose to navigate around these typically.
Rock on if this is your choice.0 -
Always wanted to date a dancer but was too shy too ask. Dancers probably get hit on all the time anyway.0
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sparrish531 wrote: »ArmyofAdrian wrote: »Drugs, alcohol, prostitution, organized crime, scum bags, STD's and all the things that go along with those things. Other than that...
I think I have seen elements of that in every job I have had. One can choose to navigate around these typically.
Rock on if this is your choice.
My brother is a cop....sees it all the time. Hahaha1 -
sparrish531 wrote: »ArmyofAdrian wrote: »Drugs, alcohol, prostitution, organized crime, scum bags, STD's and all the things that go along with those things. Other than that...
I think I have seen elements of that in every job I have had. One can choose to navigate around these typically.
Rock on if this is your choice.
You'd have to be outright stupid to think most professions have even close to the same level of drugs, alcohol, prostitution, organized crime, scum bags and STD's as "stripping" does.3 -
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Tonydevolanii wrote: »Tonydevolanii wrote: »Exposing your body for money=*kitten*.
Topless picture of you online to complete strangers = a-ok
Apparently you lost some brain aswell with your hair
'along', the word you are looking for is 'along'.2 -
hello
i dont care0 -
Tonydevolanii wrote: »Tonydevolanii wrote: »Exposing your body for money=*kitten*.
Topless picture of you online to complete strangers = a-ok
Apparently you lost some brain aswell with your hair
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alleyneagle193 wrote: »I've been wondering why being a stripper is bad
Holy crap, there's a topic I'm not touching on the internet.
"Stripping is bad." - SLUT SHAMING! MISOGYNIST! WOMEN CAN BE SEXUAL TOO!
"I like strippers. Nothing wrong with that." - MISOGYNIST! YOU'RE OBJECTIFYING WOMEN! ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS THEIR BODIES!
I know a no-win scenario when I see one.6 -
Is this a serious thread? I'm pretty sure OP is trolling....4
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A lot of people like to see people without any clothes on.
A lot of people like to make money.
This perfectly combines those two things.0 -
So what I'm hearing, is that being a stripper is not a future career limiting choice. Perhaps just for high public office, then?0
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otherusernamestaken wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »alleyneagle193 wrote: »I've been wondering why being a stripper is bad because I honestly want to be a stripper. They make really good money and can wear really cute clothes. I see nothing morally wrong with being a stripper unless you have kids... Then you should probably get a better job. What do you think?
Your young enough to be my daughter so let me explain this too you as if I was talking to my daughter. Your young and beautiful but you do not yet have the life experience of someone who is older and who has been around the block a few times. I believe that you are much more valuable than to let yourself be drawn into that world. It is a very dark world filled with many unsavory characters who are looking to only use you and take advantage of you. My of these women, whom I have know personally, have drug habits and end up doing things much worse than stripping .. like prostitution and worse.
Even if it didn't lead to drugs and prostitution why would you want to lower yourself to be someone who is objectified and treated like a piece of meat. Many of these women have lasting emotional and psychological damage from their experiences in strip clubs and bars. They are left feeling empty and broken inside. Some have even been followed after work and raped or even killed. You have to understand the male mind to be able to comprehend what you are opening yourself up to. If a man is paying you to take off your clothes than you are of absolutely no value to him.. you are the lowest form of life around. That means for some that they develop a feeling of possession over you and can demonstrate stalkerish behavior. It can end up being a nightmare that you might not wake up from.
You also should consider your long term future. Stripping is not really a path way to success.. the money will not last forever and what are you going to do when your looks fade ? Everyone ages and nothing stays the same. I would encourage your to goto college and get an education that will help you earn a living for the rest of your life.
You should also think about your future husband or kids and how you might feel if they ever found out that their mom was a stripper. Everything goes on the internet today and once its out there it stays out there.. think about your family today.. your mother and your father.. Have you considered how much you might hurt them if they found out what you are doing ?
Paternalism at its best.
Didn't we do a mansplaining thread earlier?
"Think of the men!" sheez dude, really?
In a nut shell think of your clientele and how you will be viewed.. think of the danger. If that is wrong I never want to be right !!!
All well and good, but you aren't her father or even have an inkling of what she has or has not as a life experience. All that is just presumption paternalistic BS.
I mean you seem to know many women personally that are strippers, drug addicts and prostitutes. Or so you say. What kind of moral code are you navigating that places you in close personal association but at the same type hypercritical of the self-determination of what and how a young woman positions her body.
Are you truly criticising the profession from the close proximity of experience? That's like a john critiquing the "hooker lifestyle".
Just for the record I have a close personal friend who I grew up with who chose this lifestyle and I visited a few establishments when I was younger. So that is my frame of reference. To be honest I am really shocked that anyone would take issue with someone who was advising her to take the high road. Maybe you would want your daughter, sister or mother to work in one of these places ??? I think not.. but I could be wrong. At 18 years old how much life exp could anyone really have ?? Let alone the maturity to make such decisions. I wish her the best of luck.
I have four daughters.
I don't have an issue with you advising her to not do this. I happen to agree that it is a decision with a bunch of risk that she might or might not be aware of.
Tonality and the "I know better than you" attitude is what I have issue with. The "I went but it isn't ok" attitude.
My two oldest would laugh at you. It most certainly is not something that they would choose for themselves, but they would decide to as adults, fully owning their decisions and not from the shaming viewpoint of future husband material - heck, that attitude would certainly had them choose different careers and self goals - just pick to stay pretty and serviceable for their "future husband's" world view.
It happens that my girls live in cities where burlesque - what the OP calls "classy stripping" - are quite common (and difficult to get into) and, no, not the environments you paint. Paris and Strasbourg have various variety shows of this type, it is reserved mostly for girls that really know how to dance or sing too. If my girls had the skills and wanted to do the, I'd be concerned about their long term careers (but I'm concerned about them always) not about their association with "the male mind", they've got that down.
One of them has some skill in painting and has a class for nudes and has herself posed nude. Not an issue. It is traditionally an environment where, in Paris, it was full of drugs, guys trying to get at the models, etc... Just like modelling. It is likely that your attitude towards stripping is (versus modelling, acting, etc...) that it is seen as "cheap" versus "glamorous" of the other paths.
Your other points? Doesn't even seem like you read her post. She isn't considering this as a career goal.
I obviously know better than you if you would encourage someone to get into a career that has the high probability of being exploited, abusing drugs, rape, unwanted sexual advances and lowering oneself in the social structure for literally no reason. There are other ways to make money that don't involve the risk of self destruction. I would give the exact same advice for someone considering to be a drug mule, or an addict getting involved in the medical field. I am not judgmental of strippers, as if I didn't have God protecting me from myself, knowing me, I'd probably be swinging on a pole right now. I just care about people enough not to encourage them along a path of self destruction.
So you're advising people not to go to universities?4 -
alleyneagle193 wrote: »I've been wondering why being a stripper is bad
Holy crap, there's a topic I'm not touching on the internet.
"Stripping is bad." - SLUT SHAMING! MISOGYNIST! WOMEN CAN BE SEXUAL TOO!
"I like strippers. Nothing wrong with that." - MISOGYNIST! YOU'RE OBJECTIFYING WOMEN! ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS THEIR BODIES!
I know a no-win scenario when I see one.
Embrace your misogyny.1 -
The way some of you are answering so seriously
calm the fak down 2 -
Still on my bucket list to become one. Wahoo!1
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It wouldn't be a choice I'd make for myself but having had friends who were industry, I'll share my concerns and their stories.
Guys don't just want you to strip, often they push for "dates" or become obsessed which has made it very dangerous for them at times. Both were assaulted. Many clubs are fronts for human trafficking rings, not all but quite a few. You're only as successful as the next stripper up, meaning your self esteem is tied into how many tips you can get and when the long legged, big breasted, great rear ended woman comes in and men are willing to wait for her how will you feel? Men will touch whether they are supposed to or not, so you will be pawed and be no more than object like their next fancy car.
The money is great and a rush but strippers have been known to disappear after some high powered individual is caught with them and you will find tons of people on drugs.
There are other ways to make money dancing but the choice is yours I am giving you the truth from experience.0 -
I honestly think the OP has no clue what she could be getting into. If you want a taste, honestly get a job at Hooters and see how you like being treated like a piece of meat. If you like it and want even more of it, and even more degrading people around you, then maybe stripping is right for you.2
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meganridenour wrote: »I honestly think the OP has no clue what she could be getting into. If you want a taste, honestly get a job at Hooters and see how you like being treated like a piece of meat. If you like it and want even more of it, and even more degrading people around you, then maybe stripping is right for you.
Welp. No judgment here.
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Where you live ill come throw dollars your way1
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