Deadlifting on Smith Machine
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richardpkennedy1 wrote: »All good advice but I don't think anybody has specifically pointed this out. Your rear is the first thing that moves in your video, and it shouldn't be. Keeping your back in a neutral position and driving through your legs (think of pushing the ground away from you) will help keep your butt low.
getting completely tight and engaged and in the right position before pulling will keep the butt down. The butt comes up when you aren't rock solid tight. It takes some time to train your body to engage every muscle in your body (this is the granddaddy of all lifts) Pulling any slack out of the bar helps , Among other things, i pull the slack out of the bar then raise my hips up to lock up my hams and glutes and keeping them tight i drop them back down and pull. You're body needs to be a rock and locked into position. For me, my cue isn't "pulling up the bar", my cue is to just stand up without leaning forward. super simple. all the power comes from my legs.
Wow this is awesome advice. Never thought of it like that! How much do you deadline?
oh i'm just a broken old lady. my 1rm is 305.5 -
Tough crowd......0
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Runngurl43 wrote: »Tough crowd......
Well he asked and deadlifting (and squatting) using the Smith machine is a bad idea0 -
richardpkennedy1 wrote: »All good advice but I don't think anybody has specifically pointed this out. Your rear is the first thing that moves in your video, and it shouldn't be. Keeping your back in a neutral position and driving through your legs (think of pushing the ground away from you) will help keep your butt low.
getting completely tight and engaged and in the right position before pulling will keep the butt down. The butt comes up when you aren't rock solid tight. It takes some time to train your body to engage every muscle in your body (this is the granddaddy of all lifts) Pulling any slack out of the bar helps , Among other things, i pull the slack out of the bar then raise my hips up to lock up my hams and glutes and keeping them tight i drop them back down and pull. You're body needs to be a rock and locked into position. For me, my cue isn't "pulling up the bar", my cue is to just stand up without leaning forward. super simple. all the power comes from my legs.
Wow this is awesome advice. Never thought of it like that! How much do you deadline?
oh i'm just a broken old lady. my 1rm is 305.
Lol. If a broken old lady can deadlift 305, what does that make me?!0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »deluxmary2000 wrote: »@Carlos_421 great advice, but why are shorts a bad idea?? I don't wear shorts anyway, but just curious.
Because the rough texture of the iron bar will scrape the skin right off your shins.
sometimes that happens with pants on too....
Too true. I also don't wear my favorite pants on deadlift day either because I don't want to wear holes in em.
I thought this was going somewhere else. I've been listening to Mark Bell and his poop stories too much.2 -
arditarose wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »deluxmary2000 wrote: »@Carlos_421 great advice, but why are shorts a bad idea?? I don't wear shorts anyway, but just curious.
Because the rough texture of the iron bar will scrape the skin right off your shins.
sometimes that happens with pants on too....
Too true. I also don't wear my favorite pants on deadlift day either because I don't want to wear holes in em.
I thought this was going somewhere else. I've been listening to Mark Bell and his poop stories too much.
Lol! The first rule of deadlifts: poop first.0 -
Hate to tell you... but that's an 80kg rack pull.0
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MichelleLei1 wrote: »richardpkennedy1 wrote: »This may be the worst idea I have seen in a while...
How about this for a bad idea...
I see some fitness models in YouTube videos doing that. Really silly and dangerous. I also see others standing on the hip adduction/abduction machine instead of being seated and using the equipment the way it was designed.0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »deluxmary2000 wrote: »@Carlos_421 great advice, but why are shorts a bad idea?? I don't wear shorts anyway, but just curious.
Because the rough texture of the iron bar will scrape the skin right off your shins.
sometimes that happens with pants on too....
Too true. I also don't wear my favorite pants on deadlift day either because I don't want to wear holes in em.
I thought this was going somewhere else. I've been listening to Mark Bell and his poop stories too much.
Lol! The first rule of deadlifts: poop first.
I haven't been QUITE there yet but the other day was the first time I was like....I should really try and take a pee before I pick this up.3 -
geekyjock76 wrote: »MichelleLei1 wrote: »richardpkennedy1 wrote: »This may be the worst idea I have seen in a while...
How about this for a bad idea...
I see some fitness models in YouTube videos doing that. Really silly and dangerous. I also see others standing on the hip adduction/abduction machine instead of being seated and using the equipment the way it was designed.
Its an old school leg press variations. Put the saftey stops in on the smith machine and it's fine2 -
Shoulders need to go back and down - imagine tying your scapula to your waistband!
Then tighten every single muscle in your body, breathe in, brace your core and stand up!
Don't think about lifting the bar, think about keeping your back straight, muscles taught and standing up. Your hips go forward but don't think about that too much either or you'll end up snapping/jerking whereas you need to be slow and controlled in a deadlift.
I would suggest cutting the weight down until you have the form down to perfect. You can prop the barbell up on a couple of plates if you need to use small plates on each end.0 -
BalletAndBarbells wrote: »Shoulders need to go back and down - imagine tying your scapula to your waistband!
Then tighten every single muscle in your body, breathe in, brace your core and stand up!
Don't think about lifting the bar, think about keeping your back straight, muscles taught and standing up. Your hips go forward but don't think about that too much either or you'll end up snapping/jerking whereas you need to be slow and controlled in a deadlift.
I would suggest cutting the weight down until you have the form down to perfect. You can prop the barbell up on a couple of plates if you need to use small plates on each end.
Thanks for the tips. I'm going down to go down 100 lbs deadlifts to get my form right (when I have access to a barbell again). Will post vids. Are there any other lifts I can do with dumbbells to build overall power?1 -
richardpkennedy1 wrote: »BalletAndBarbells wrote: »Shoulders need to go back and down - imagine tying your scapula to your waistband!
Then tighten every single muscle in your body, breathe in, brace your core and stand up!
Don't think about lifting the bar, think about keeping your back straight, muscles taught and standing up. Your hips go forward but don't think about that too much either or you'll end up snapping/jerking whereas you need to be slow and controlled in a deadlift.
I would suggest cutting the weight down until you have the form down to perfect. You can prop the barbell up on a couple of plates if you need to use small plates on each end.
Thanks for the tips. I'm going down to go down 100 lbs deadlifts to get my form right (when I have access to a barbell again). Will post vids. Are there any other lifts I can do with dumbbells to build overall power?
Go to 135. Less and you'll change the leverages caused by using smaller plates. 135 will be at the height your deadlifting "career" will be at regularly.0 -
Shawshankcan wrote: »richardpkennedy1 wrote: »BalletAndBarbells wrote: »Shoulders need to go back and down - imagine tying your scapula to your waistband!
Then tighten every single muscle in your body, breathe in, brace your core and stand up!
Don't think about lifting the bar, think about keeping your back straight, muscles taught and standing up. Your hips go forward but don't think about that too much either or you'll end up snapping/jerking whereas you need to be slow and controlled in a deadlift.
I would suggest cutting the weight down until you have the form down to perfect. You can prop the barbell up on a couple of plates if you need to use small plates on each end.
Thanks for the tips. I'm going down to go down 100 lbs deadlifts to get my form right (when I have access to a barbell again). Will post vids. Are there any other lifts I can do with dumbbells to build overall power?
Go to 135. Less and you'll change the leverages caused by using smaller plates. 135 will be at the height your deadlifting "career" will be at regularly.
I'm doing 135 in the video above. Was advised to go lower.0 -
Going to 25lb plates lowers the bar thre inches which changes how you pull. If you need that weight, put them on blocks.
https://youtu.be/oiDczs9j75E
This video may help you.1 -
richardpkennedy1 wrote: »Shawshankcan wrote: »richardpkennedy1 wrote: »BalletAndBarbells wrote: »Shoulders need to go back and down - imagine tying your scapula to your waistband!
Then tighten every single muscle in your body, breathe in, brace your core and stand up!
Don't think about lifting the bar, think about keeping your back straight, muscles taught and standing up. Your hips go forward but don't think about that too much either or you'll end up snapping/jerking whereas you need to be slow and controlled in a deadlift.
I would suggest cutting the weight down until you have the form down to perfect. You can prop the barbell up on a couple of plates if you need to use small plates on each end.
Thanks for the tips. I'm going down to go down 100 lbs deadlifts to get my form right (when I have access to a barbell again). Will post vids. Are there any other lifts I can do with dumbbells to build overall power?
Go to 135. Less and you'll change the leverages caused by using smaller plates. 135 will be at the height your deadlifting "career" will be at regularly.
I'm doing 135 in the video above. Was advised to go lower.
you don't need to go lower, start at 135, that was easy weight for you in your video .
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richardpkennedy1 wrote: »Shawshankcan wrote: »richardpkennedy1 wrote: »BalletAndBarbells wrote: »Shoulders need to go back and down - imagine tying your scapula to your waistband!
Then tighten every single muscle in your body, breathe in, brace your core and stand up!
Don't think about lifting the bar, think about keeping your back straight, muscles taught and standing up. Your hips go forward but don't think about that too much either or you'll end up snapping/jerking whereas you need to be slow and controlled in a deadlift.
I would suggest cutting the weight down until you have the form down to perfect. You can prop the barbell up on a couple of plates if you need to use small plates on each end.
Thanks for the tips. I'm going down to go down 100 lbs deadlifts to get my form right (when I have access to a barbell again). Will post vids. Are there any other lifts I can do with dumbbells to build overall power?
Go to 135. Less and you'll change the leverages caused by using smaller plates. 135 will be at the height your deadlifting "career" will be at regularly.
I'm doing 135 in the video above. Was advised to go lower.
It was poor advice. You weren't even close to struggling with the weight in your video and proper form will actually enable you to lift more.0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »richardpkennedy1 wrote: »Shawshankcan wrote: »richardpkennedy1 wrote: »BalletAndBarbells wrote: »Shoulders need to go back and down - imagine tying your scapula to your waistband!
Then tighten every single muscle in your body, breathe in, brace your core and stand up!
Don't think about lifting the bar, think about keeping your back straight, muscles taught and standing up. Your hips go forward but don't think about that too much either or you'll end up snapping/jerking whereas you need to be slow and controlled in a deadlift.
I would suggest cutting the weight down until you have the form down to perfect. You can prop the barbell up on a couple of plates if you need to use small plates on each end.
Thanks for the tips. I'm going down to go down 100 lbs deadlifts to get my form right (when I have access to a barbell again). Will post vids. Are there any other lifts I can do with dumbbells to build overall power?
Go to 135. Less and you'll change the leverages caused by using smaller plates. 135 will be at the height your deadlifting "career" will be at regularly.
I'm doing 135 in the video above. Was advised to go lower.
It was poor advice. You weren't even close to struggling with the weight in your video and proper form will actually enable you to lift more.
Personally I'd say OP was struggling with the weight because otherwise his form wouldn't have collapsed! Hence why I advised to practice form with lower weight and I did recognise that he would need to prop up on plates to get the correct height.0 -
OP, you can deadlift with dumbells if you like and I would also recommend the goblet squat as you'll be able to go pretty heavy with a dumbell and it'll help you get your butt down further.0
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OK thanks. It was a little difficult. Maybe same weight but less reps?BalletAndBarbells wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »richardpkennedy1 wrote: »Shawshankcan wrote: »richardpkennedy1 wrote: »BalletAndBarbells wrote: »Shoulders need to go back and down - imagine tying your scapula to your waistband!
Then tighten every single muscle in your body, breathe in, brace your core and stand up!
Don't think about lifting the bar, think about keeping your back straight, muscles taught and standing up. Your hips go forward but don't think about that too much either or you'll end up snapping/jerking whereas you need to be slow and controlled in a deadlift.
I would suggest cutting the weight down until you have the form down to perfect. You can prop the barbell up on a couple of plates if you need to use small plates on each end.
Thanks for the tips. I'm going down to go down 100 lbs deadlifts to get my form right (when I have access to a barbell again). Will post vids. Are there any other lifts I can do with dumbbells to build overall power?
Go to 135. Less and you'll change the leverages caused by using smaller plates. 135 will be at the height your deadlifting "career" will be at regularly.
I'm doing 135 in the video above. Was advised to go lower.
It was poor advice. You weren't even close to struggling with the weight in your video and proper form will actually enable you to lift more.
Personally I'd say OP was struggling with the weight because otherwise his form wouldn't have collapsed! Hence why I advised to practice form with lower weight and I did recognise that he would need to prop up on plates to get the correct height.
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