Deadlifting on Smith Machine
richardpkennedy1
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That's 2 plates by the way. 100kg (225 lbs)0
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Free weights are always better imo. The Smith machine is a place to hang my towel.16
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Well done on the weight but, IMHO you should not deadlift in the smith machine. Good deadlift form is impossible in this piece of kit. Set up a barbell and use that for your deadlifts.3
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Why are you even deadlifting in a smith machine in the first place? 2 plates in s smith will not be anywhere near 2 plates on a barbell.9
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Unless your smith machine is 45lbs which most aren't. Then it isn't 225. And you'll always be able to lift more in a smith since it takes all the stability work out of the lift.richardpkennedy1 wrote: »That's 2 plates by the way. 100kg (225 lbs)
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Unless your smith machine is 45lbs which most aren't. Then it isn't 225. And you'll always be able to lift more in a smith since it takes all the stability work out of the lift.richardpkennedy1 wrote: »That's 2 plates by the way. 100kg (225 lbs)
There's a sign on the machine saying that the unloaded weight is 45 lbs. I'm pretty sure it's correct because my Smith bench is only slightly higher than barbell bench. As to why I am using it, there is no barbell at the gym. It's just my condo gym, not a commercial gym.1 -
richardpkennedy1 wrote: »
Unless your smith machine is 45lbs which most aren't. Then it isn't 225. And you'll always be able to lift more in a smith since it takes all the stability work out of the lift.richardpkennedy1 wrote: »That's 2 plates by the way. 100kg (225 lbs)
There's a sign on the machine saying that the unloaded weight is 45 lbs. I'm pretty sure it's correct because my Smith bench is only slightly higher than barbell bench. As to why I am using it, there is no barbell at the gym. It's just my condo gym, not a commercial gym.
Do your deadlifts at the gym that you do your bench presses?6 -
yikes, deadlifting in the smith machine??0
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I thought that was called a rack pull anyway. Someone explain the difference?0
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And now I finally know what a Smith machine is (was too lazy to ever Google). It basically takes away the strength required to stabilise away from the user? Huh.5
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I thought that was called a rack pull anyway. Someone explain the difference?
A rack pull is a deadlift variant where you start with the weight above ground level, typically supported on the arms of a power-lifting cage - see http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/rack-pulls for example.1 -
No way to really assess your form since the smith machine has you locked in a specific range of motion.
There are only a few lifts I'd consider using a smith machine for and deadlifts or squats are not one of them.4 -
StealthHealth wrote: »richardpkennedy1 wrote: »
Unless your smith machine is 45lbs which most aren't. Then it isn't 225. And you'll always be able to lift more in a smith since it takes all the stability work out of the lift.richardpkennedy1 wrote: »That's 2 plates by the way. 100kg (225 lbs)
There's a sign on the machine saying that the unloaded weight is 45 lbs. I'm pretty sure it's correct because my Smith bench is only slightly higher than barbell bench. As to why I am using it, there is no barbell at the gym. It's just my condo gym, not a commercial gym.
Do your deadlifts at the gym that you do your bench presses?
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richardpkennedy1 wrote: »
This may be the worst idea I have seen in a while...4 -
i didn't even know deadlifting in the smith machine was a thing. there is absolutely no reason to DL in a smith machine, in fact i'd be scared of hurting myself since my bar path isn't necessarily the path of the machine and id be all out of balance tweaking my back.6
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piperdown44 wrote: »No way to really assess your form since the smith machine has you locked in a specific range of motion.
There are only a few lifts I'd consider using a smith machine for and deadlifts or squats are not one of them.
I do shrugs and inverted rows on it. Are shrugs ok on the Smith?1 -
singingflutelady wrote: »piperdown44 wrote: »No way to really assess your form since the smith machine has you locked in a specific range of motion.
There are only a few lifts I'd consider using a smith machine for and deadlifts or squats are not one of them.
I do shrugs and inverted rows on it. Are shrugs ok on the Smith?
I think behind back shrugs are the only time I go near a smith, its not worth the looks you get when you invert row haha. Those poor folks waiting who could be doing poor form squats and benching.1 -
singingflutelady wrote: »piperdown44 wrote: »No way to really assess your form since the smith machine has you locked in a specific range of motion.
There are only a few lifts I'd consider using a smith machine for and deadlifts or squats are not one of them.
I do shrugs and inverted rows on it. Are shrugs ok on the Smith?
For shrugs the bar path is so small the Smith machine's angle will have virtually zero effect. On that basis I'd say you would be fine (similar for calf raises - I sometimes do these in Smith machine, toes on a platform, bar on shoulders). For rows, I wouldn't, the Smith's path will throw you off ideal every time.1 -
singingflutelady wrote: »piperdown44 wrote: »No way to really assess your form since the smith machine has you locked in a specific range of motion.
There are only a few lifts I'd consider using a smith machine for and deadlifts or squats are not one of them.
I do shrugs and inverted rows on it. Are shrugs ok on the Smith?
I'd say you're fine. Inverted rows were my primary use of the Smith machine. I do shrugs in there once in a while, and can't say I've noticed a difference.0 -
StealthHealth wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »piperdown44 wrote: »No way to really assess your form since the smith machine has you locked in a specific range of motion.
There are only a few lifts I'd consider using a smith machine for and deadlifts or squats are not one of them.
I do shrugs and inverted rows on it. Are shrugs ok on the Smith?
For shrugs the bar path is so small the Smith machine's angle will have virtually zero effect. On that basis I'd say you would be fine (similar for calf raises - I sometimes do these in Smith machine, toes on a platform, bar on shoulders). For rows, I wouldn't, the Smith's path will throw you off ideal every time.
I'd say that was true of the smith machines angle on regular shrugs, fairly pointless en-devour. Due to your body angle on a behind back shrugs, it is pretty effective, and one I've seen many lifters do in multiple gyms.
Hadn't considered calf raises.
Agreed rowing is a terrible idea, but an inverted row the bar is static so there is no issue with the path like the upright row. Horrible enough exercise without a smith never mind with its path getting in the damn way haha.
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I do bent over rows on the Smith Machine, do to low back problems. It keeps the pressure off of my back. Is it the most ideal, no, but it still gets the job done. Deadlifts or squats is another story.0
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The only thing I use the smith for is calf raises. I use to do heavy shrugs in the smith (as noted above, the path is too short to be affected by the angle) but there's actually a sign on the smith now which reads "Please do not deadlift or do heavy shrugs on this machine."0
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No, just no!1
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Along with what everyone has said already...doing deadlifts on a smith machine is not a good idea. It's very deceiving, doing two plates on that does not translate at all do doing the same weight free weight. I'd suggest doing them free weight with low weight till you get the form right and by no means try to do two plates free weight starting out, you may hurt yourself.1
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singingflutelady wrote: »piperdown44 wrote: »No way to really assess your form since the smith machine has you locked in a specific range of motion.
There are only a few lifts I'd consider using a smith machine for and deadlifts or squats are not one of them.
I do shrugs and inverted rows on it. Are shrugs ok on the Smith?
Lifts I do or would consider in a smith machine:
Seated OHP
Shrugs
Rows
Calf raises
That's about it.
If I'm traveling and a smith machine is the only thing available at the hotel (and a real gym is either too far away or expensive for just a few days) I would do bench in it.
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Strong Front Double Bicep 10/10, would make into a gif.1
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I would rather deadlift heavy rocks outside than use a Smith machine. If you have access to a barbell, use it!1
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richardpkennedy1 wrote: »
This may be the worst idea I have seen in a while...
Nah, the deadlift/burpee guy had the worst idea.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/comment/36677833#Comment_366778331
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