Diet Soda and Weight Loss
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I can guarantee that a lot more research has gone in to aspartame than in to water as water deprivation and/or hyperhydration would be unethical.
For the same reason you won't find many oxygen deprivation studies or blood transfusion studies.
It's obvious that water, oxygen and blood supply are essential to life.
Aspartame is a funny bitty chemical with some interesting properties. Since very little happens when we consume it, study away.
There is no aspartame/insulin relationship.4 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »Aaron _k123
Thank you for your opinion but are you a doctor? Um, no is my guess. Or do you specialize in kidney health? Um no is my guess. Or do you read stuff on the Web and take it as gospel? Yes, would be my guess.
My kidney health is fantastic. Just sayin...maybe cause I drink water... lol.... I don't know...
Have you tested your kidneys? Probably not...
What I wrote was for people to read and think about. But thank you for your response.
Well, he's not an md but he has a pH.d
PH.D in what? Lol.... this is so funny. Lol.. do what you want... but thank you again for your opinion
Molecular biology and biochemistry so yeah he's an expert. What's your training?
Yeah, but does he have a Youtube channel?
No :-(
That wasn't a requirement for your dissertation1 -
Then please tell me why when someone has significant damage to their kidney they are told only to drink water for a year plus until they rebuild themselves.
Low sodium to keep low blood pressure to avoid aggrevating the problem. Drinking lots of water will tend to balance out the high amount of sodium most people get from their foods. The same person would likely also be told to avoid high sodium foods. That doesn't mean that sodium damages your kidneys.Wouldn't you also agree that our bodies tend to bioaccumulate things if we don't flush them with water?
No I wouldn't. The extent to which a particular molecule bioaccumulates has nothing to do with how much water you drink. Aspartame doesn't bioaccumulate at all, its metabolically processed and doesn't even reach your blood let alone bioaccumulate. If anything is correlated to bioaccumulation its hydrophobicity and aspartame is quite polar.So in theory even if this chemical that you defend causes no cancer.... Wouldn't you say to maintain overall Kidney Health you should drink regular water and flush your body?
If aspartame causes cancer so does protein mixed with fruit juice because they are metabolically the same. I think you should drink water yes. Water is the main ingredient in most beverages and it is important to stay hydrated. Drinking not enough water or over use of diuretics such as caffeine can cause some issues if they are used to the extreme over long periods of time.
What does this have to do with aspartame?7 -
PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Life's too short not to have fun. Drink and be merry!! Even if it's diet soda or beer or hot dogs or cheesecake or CheesePuffs or Twinkies.
Have you tried Hot 'n Honey Cheez Doodles? Bangin.
Interested!! is that a Canadian thing? I've never seen Doodles, and I know snacks!
I'm in the US (CT). I only ever find them at Big Lots and Dollar Tree.
I'm checking them out, let you know. Big Lots is walking distance, burn some calories
I feel so much pressure right now. If you don't like them, that's pretty much it for me.
LOL I didn't mean to put you on the spot!! honest!! Maybe I will drive instead, if that makes you feel better.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »
You really think that if you change the subject people aren't going to point out that article does not say what you said it does?
Look there are a lot of articles you can read. 1916..... lol.... not trying to switch the subject I'm just over it. Do what you'd like and enjoy the hell out of it.
You made a claim that you state has scientific backing, but are unable to provide said science. You either know of science that proves your claim, or you were just making a claim based on nothing but personal beliefs. It is not other people's job to do your research for you.
Have a good weekend... hahaha... have a stiff drink, chill, and release the beast. Peace.
A stiff drink...of water?
It's funny because ethanol is actual poison (which I enjoy ingesting and will be ingesting this weekend), yet many will claim the evils of aspartame/phosphoric acid/carnonation/caffeine, while claiming wine is super healthy and regularly consume craft beer.
Nothing against wine or craft beer because I love them both and enjoy them in moderation. But you're going to die a lot faster if you try to drink two gallons of wine than you would by drinking two gallons of diet Coke.10 -
singingflutelady wrote: »Same as protein. Kidney patients also cut back on that too.
My assumption with the whole "aspartame causes kidney damage thing" is someone who was looking for a reason to think aspartame was toxic read that high intake of aspartate and phenylalanine can cause kidney damage and that aspartame is comprised of aspartate and phenylalanine. It is true that high amounts of those can cause kidney damage because as we have discovered from people who go on extremely high protein diets, ketogenic metabolism long term due to high protein loads can cause kidney damage.
That said we are talking about people consuming 250 grams of protein a day and severly limiting their carbs. The amount of aspartame in a can of diet coke is 180 milligrams. So basically there are 162 mg of protein in it (18mg would be methanol).
To get enough protein from diet cokes as to cause yourself kidney damage over time you would have to drink so much you would die from the sheer amount of water.
That is the only remotely lose connection I can even concieve of between aspartame and kidney damage. But I'm just guessing why someone would have gotten that idea, anyone who actually believes it themselves might explain by what mechanism they are picturing this happening.8 -
singingflutelady wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »Aaron _k123
Thank you for your opinion but are you a doctor? Um, no is my guess. Or do you specialize in kidney health? Um no is my guess. Or do you read stuff on the Web and take it as gospel? Yes, would be my guess.
My kidney health is fantastic. Just sayin...maybe cause I drink water... lol.... I don't know...
Have you tested your kidneys? Probably not...
What I wrote was for people to read and think about. But thank you for your response.
Well, he's not an md but he has a pH.d
PH.D in what? Lol.... this is so funny. Lol.. do what you want... but thank you again for your opinion
Molecular biology and biochemistry so yeah he's an expert. What's your training?
You defend him so bold.... lol.... look this was just a talk... not meant to offend anyone. Sorry you can't talk.... without slamming someone. Seriously think... I get it... he is smart and you should listen to him.... however, have your own opinion and learn to see if he really is right...... Dr. Aaron no offense.
None taken, I promote skepticism and would never hide behind a degree. I wouldn't have ever brought it up if you hadn't asked me directly. I don't think people should believe me because I'm me, I think if they are willing to listen I can answer questions related to it fairly accurately and do a decently good job at explaining what aspartame actually is and how our bodies metabolize it.7 -
What claim?
This claim:The are medical facts that contradict diet soda.
The one you keep repeating without any sort of support even though its a pretty extrodinary claim that a food additive on the market for 50 years has "medical facts" that "contradict it" (I assume you mean medical evidence of harm).
Could you provide some with cited sources? You keep saying this but I am not aware of any medical evidence of toxicity or kidney damage or health issues related to consumption of aspartame. I am aware of a lot of misinformation on the internet though so if you end up posting a youtube video from Mercola.com I'm going to have to point out that might not be the most reliable source.
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singingflutelady wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »Aaron _k123
Thank you for your opinion but are you a doctor? Um, no is my guess. Or do you specialize in kidney health? Um no is my guess. Or do you read stuff on the Web and take it as gospel? Yes, would be my guess.
My kidney health is fantastic. Just sayin...maybe cause I drink water... lol.... I don't know...
Have you tested your kidneys? Probably not...
What I wrote was for people to read and think about. But thank you for your response.
Well, he's not an md but he has a pH.d
PH.D in what? Lol.... this is so funny. Lol.. do what you want... but thank you again for your opinion
Molecular biology and biochemistry so yeah he's an expert. What's your training?
Yeah, but does he have a Youtube channel?
No :-(
That wasn't a requirement for your dissertation
No...but my dissertation is available online if you are ready for that thrilling gripping read. 159 pages of pure awesome, will leave you gripping your seat waiting to find out what happens next.10 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »Aaron _k123
Thank you for your opinion but are you a doctor? Um, no is my guess. Or do you specialize in kidney health? Um no is my guess. Or do you read stuff on the Web and take it as gospel? Yes, would be my guess.
My kidney health is fantastic. Just sayin...maybe cause I drink water... lol.... I don't know...
Have you tested your kidneys? Probably not...
What I wrote was for people to read and think about. But thank you for your response.
Well, he's not an md but he has a pH.d
PH.D in what? Lol.... this is so funny. Lol.. do what you want... but thank you again for your opinion
Molecular biology and biochemistry so yeah he's an expert. What's your training?
Yeah, but does he have a Youtube channel?
No :-(
That wasn't a requirement for your dissertation
No...but my dissertation is available online if you are ready for that thrilling gripping read. 159 pages of pure awesome, will leave you gripping your seat waiting to find out what happens next.
I actually would read this... Just saying.3 -
chocolate_owl wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »Aaron _k123
Thank you for your opinion but are you a doctor? Um, no is my guess. Or do you specialize in kidney health? Um no is my guess. Or do you read stuff on the Web and take it as gospel? Yes, would be my guess.
My kidney health is fantastic. Just sayin...maybe cause I drink water... lol.... I don't know...
Have you tested your kidneys? Probably not...
What I wrote was for people to read and think about. But thank you for your response.
Well, he's not an md but he has a pH.d
PH.D in what? Lol.... this is so funny. Lol.. do what you want... but thank you again for your opinion
Molecular biology and biochemistry so yeah he's an expert. What's your training?
Yeah, but does he have a Youtube channel?
No :-(
That wasn't a requirement for your dissertation
No...but my dissertation is available online if you are ready for that thrilling gripping read. 159 pages of pure awesome, will leave you gripping your seat waiting to find out what happens next.
I actually would read this... Just saying.
You have a high tolerance for pain or a lot of free time on your hands.7 -
@Aaron_K123 thought of you this morning as someone on my FB feed posted a fear mongering article about Aspartame which started with this gem of an appeal to emotion as its hook...
"Beware everyone, but also you pilots and pregnant mothers! You both have others on board."
I'm not going to post the article because it is pseudoscience drivel filled with scary terms like excitotoxins and talking about how big business is duping consumers into thinking this dangerous substance is safe for consumption.
Reading the article, it's easy to see how a layperson who doesn't have a lot of biochemistry knowledge could get caught up by all the science jargon and believe everything as written. I know certainly the discussion on my FB feed which includes smart individuals, is leaning heavily toward "ZOMG aspartame is horrible, how can the FDA let us consume this!"
Anyway, just reinforces how patient you are with constantly explaining why articles like that are so inaccurate and the actual science behind things, so thanks again for always stepping into these discussions even when people get defensive and try to diminish your credibility...11 -
queenliz99 wrote: »PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Life's too short not to have fun. Drink and be merry!! Even if it's diet soda or beer or hot dogs or cheesecake or CheesePuffs or Twinkies.
Have you tried Hot 'n Honey Cheez Doodles? Bangin.
Interested!! is that a Canadian thing? I've never seen Doodles, and I know snacks!
I'm in the US (CT). I only ever find them at Big Lots and Dollar Tree.
I'm checking them out, let you know. Big Lots is walking distance, burn some calories
I feel so much pressure right now. If you don't like them, that's pretty much it for me.
LOL I didn't mean to put you on the spot!! honest!! Maybe I will drive instead, if that makes you feel better.
But but but what about dem calorie burnz?
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WinoGelato wrote: »@Aaron_K123 thought of you this morning as someone on my FB feed posted a fear mongering article about Aspartame which started with this gem of an appeal to emotion as its hook...
"Beware everyone, but also you pilots and pregnant mothers! You both have others on board."
I'm not going to post the article because it is pseudoscience drivel filled with scary terms like excitotoxins and talking about how big business is duping consumers into thinking this dangerous substance is safe for consumption.
Reading the article, it's easy to see how a layperson who doesn't have a lot of biochemistry knowledge could get caught up by all the science jargon and believe everything as written. I know certainly the discussion on my FB feed which includes smart individuals, is leaning heavily toward "ZOMG aspartame is horrible, how can the FDA let us consume this!"
Anyway, just reinforces how patient you are with constantly explaining why articles like that are so inaccurate and the actual science behind things, so thanks again for always stepping into these discussions even when people get defensive and try to diminish your credibility...
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WinoGelato wrote: »@Aaron_K123 thought of you this morning as someone on my FB feed posted a fear mongering article about Aspartame which started with this gem of an appeal to emotion as its hook...
"Beware everyone, but also you pilots and pregnant mothers! You both have others on board."
I'm not going to post the article because it is pseudoscience drivel filled with scary terms like excitotoxins and talking about how big business is duping consumers into thinking this dangerous substance is safe for consumption.
Reading the article, it's easy to see how a layperson who doesn't have a lot of biochemistry knowledge could get caught up by all the science jargon and believe everything as written. I know certainly the discussion on my FB feed which includes smart individuals, is leaning heavily toward "ZOMG aspartame is horrible, how can the FDA let us consume this!"
Anyway, just reinforces how patient you are with constantly explaining why articles like that are so inaccurate and the actual science behind things, so thanks again for always stepping into these discussions even when people get defensive and try to diminish your credibility...
Thanks WinoGelato. I encountered the excitotoxin claim only recently...not sure if it's a new one fear sites are running with these days or if I had missed it before. Like many of these fear claims there is a small nugget of truth that they just abuse the heck out of. As it turns out part of the metabolic breakdown products of aspartame ARE excitotoxins...aspartate and phenylalanine....the two amino acids...the ones you'd get a lot more of if you eat just a few grams of protein. What I guess they don't mention is that amino acids have no toxicity at the level you'd be exposed to (unless you have PKU) and this toxicity us specific to neuron interactions and amino acids aren't going to pass through the blood brain barrier in quantities that matter for this.
That is why I go about trying to explain that by the time things hit your blood the levels of aspartame in a diet soda is not really different than a bite of chicken and a some orange juice in terms of what ends up in your blood. People can try to argue that point but in my experience they don't even try they just ignore it. If you accept that and you are honest then that should be the end of the debate, if you don't expect that you should explain the faults in my claims. No one seems to do either, they pick option 3....ignore it and post youtube videos or "lol" at me and question my knowledge of the topic because I clearly haven't done my "research" (ie watching youtube videos).12 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »@Aaron_K123 thought of you this morning as someone on my FB feed posted a fear mongering article about Aspartame which started with this gem of an appeal to emotion as its hook...
"Beware everyone, but also you pilots and pregnant mothers! You both have others on board."
I'm not going to post the article because it is pseudoscience drivel filled with scary terms like excitotoxins and talking about how big business is duping consumers into thinking this dangerous substance is safe for consumption.
Reading the article, it's easy to see how a layperson who doesn't have a lot of biochemistry knowledge could get caught up by all the science jargon and believe everything as written. I know certainly the discussion on my FB feed which includes smart individuals, is leaning heavily toward "ZOMG aspartame is horrible, how can the FDA let us consume this!"
Anyway, just reinforces how patient you are with constantly explaining why articles like that are so inaccurate and the actual science behind things, so thanks again for always stepping into these discussions even when people get defensive and try to diminish your credibility...
Thanks WinoGelato. I encountered the excitotoxin claim only recently...not sure if it's a new one fear sites are running with these days or if I had missed it before. Like many of these fear claims there is a small nugget of truth that they just abuse the heck out of. As it turns out part of the metabolic breakdown products of aspartame ARE excitotoxins...aspartate and phenylalanine....the two amino acids...the ones you'd get a lot more of if you eat just a few grams of protein. What I guess they don't mention is that amino acids have no toxicity at the level you'd be exposed to (unless you have PKU) and this toxicity us specific to neuron interactions and amino acids aren't going to pass through the blood brain barrier in quantities that matter for this.
That is why I go about trying to explain that by the time things hit your blood the levels of aspartame in a diet soda is not really different than a bite of chicken and a some orange juice in terms of what ends up in your blood. People can try to argue that point but in my experience they don't even try they just ignore it. If you accept that and you are honest then that should be the end of the debate, if you don't expect that you should explain the faults in my claims. No one seems to do either, they pick option 3....ignore it and post youtube videos or "lol" at me and question my knowledge of the topic because I clearly haven't done my "research" (ie watching youtube videos).
Yeah I didn't feel like getting into a big argument with a friend on Facebook but I mentioned a couple of the key points that I knew already and what I've learned from these threads. She said "well it may be fear mongering but sugar is still better, after reading about aspartame I don't want to drink it anymore, but enjoy your Diet Coke!" I'm not going to engage further, if people want to trust these type of sites and YouTube videos that prey on fear and a lack of scientific knowledge, there's not much we can say to convince them otherwise...
Also, the word "excitotoxins" has to be one of the most sensationalized science words ever. It just sounds scary and horrible, even to me and I have a chemistry degree!6 -
Over all, soda is pretty pointless to take into your body.1
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So EVERYTHING you eat is freshly pulled off a tree or from the ground? Because if not, it's NOT "natural" in your terms.Yes, everyone, I am aware that EVERYTHING is made of chemicals - my apologies for using the word in more colloquial way. Let me clarify - my personal preference is to eat and drink things that occur in nature, not developed in a lab. I gave up artificial sweeteners years ago and I don't miss them. Do your research, mind your sources, and make whatever informed decision you feel is best.
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Yep. Lots of people. Many from my gym alone.red99ryder wrote: »I always liked the joke .. Have you ever seen a skinny person drinking a diet coke lol.
I drink regular when I do have them
Good luck
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Over all, soda is pretty pointless to take into your body.
I hate most water. I get a lot of my hydration from herbal tea and diet soda. Coke Zero gives me an afternoon caffeine boost if I start to fall asleep at my desk. I find soda much more refreshing and thirst-quenching than water after a workout. Do we need soda? Of course not. Should we moderate it? Of course. But I have uses for it, so I wouldn't call it pointless.6 -
Really? There are lots of things that are pointless. Beer? Alcohol? Dairy? All aren't needed, but ENJOYED by individuals. Soda is no different. Disparaging against what people choose to drink for pleasure is riding a high horse.Over all, soda is pretty pointless to take into your body.
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Aaron_K123 wrote: »chocolate_owl wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »Aaron _k123
Thank you for your opinion but are you a doctor? Um, no is my guess. Or do you specialize in kidney health? Um no is my guess. Or do you read stuff on the Web and take it as gospel? Yes, would be my guess.
My kidney health is fantastic. Just sayin...maybe cause I drink water... lol.... I don't know...
Have you tested your kidneys? Probably not...
What I wrote was for people to read and think about. But thank you for your response.
Well, he's not an md but he has a pH.d
PH.D in what? Lol.... this is so funny. Lol.. do what you want... but thank you again for your opinion
Molecular biology and biochemistry so yeah he's an expert. What's your training?
Yeah, but does he have a Youtube channel?
No :-(
That wasn't a requirement for your dissertation
No...but my dissertation is available online if you are ready for that thrilling gripping read. 159 pages of pure awesome, will leave you gripping your seat waiting to find out what happens next.
I actually would read this... Just saying.
You have a high tolerance for pain or a lot of free time on your hands.
Hahaha. I'm a nerd and a glutton for punishment. I spent two years of undergrad making graphene supercapacitors on glass slides. A lot of that time was spent figuring out how to get glass as clean and uncontaminated as possible. Surely your dissertation is more interesting than my step-by-step guide on how to optimize glass cleanliness with a sonicator
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WinoGelato wrote: »You guys are s'moring wrong... The best s'mores are made with Peeps!
How did I miss this gem?
Peeps are full of d-toxins. I'll throw myself on the sword and eat them all, so you may live!5 -
Yep. Lots of people. Many from my gym alone.red99ryder wrote: »I always liked the joke .. Have you ever seen a skinny person drinking a diet coke lol.
I drink regular when I do have them
Good luck
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I actually drink Pepsi max as pre and intra workout at the gym and I'm not overweight unless you consider 5'8 130 fat.2 -
Over all, soda is pretty pointless to take into your body.
Not in the least. It contains water, which provides hydration. It contains flavor, which I enjoy the taste of. It contains caffeine, which gives me a boost when I want it. I see absolutely nothing "pointless" about it, in moderation and within the context of an overall balanced diet. I choose not to fall victim to ridiculous scaremongering which has been scientifically proven wrong over and over again.10 -
chocolate_owl wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »chocolate_owl wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »Aaron _k123
Thank you for your opinion but are you a doctor? Um, no is my guess. Or do you specialize in kidney health? Um no is my guess. Or do you read stuff on the Web and take it as gospel? Yes, would be my guess.
My kidney health is fantastic. Just sayin...maybe cause I drink water... lol.... I don't know...
Have you tested your kidneys? Probably not...
What I wrote was for people to read and think about. But thank you for your response.
Well, he's not an md but he has a pH.d
PH.D in what? Lol.... this is so funny. Lol.. do what you want... but thank you again for your opinion
Molecular biology and biochemistry so yeah he's an expert. What's your training?
Yeah, but does he have a Youtube channel?
No :-(
That wasn't a requirement for your dissertation
No...but my dissertation is available online if you are ready for that thrilling gripping read. 159 pages of pure awesome, will leave you gripping your seat waiting to find out what happens next.
I actually would read this... Just saying.
You have a high tolerance for pain or a lot of free time on your hands.
Hahaha. I'm a nerd and a glutton for punishment. I spent two years of undergrad making graphene supercapacitors on glass slides. A lot of that time was spent figuring out how to get glass as clean and uncontaminated as possible. Surely your dissertation is more interesting than my step-by-step guide on how to optimize glass cleanliness with a sonicator
Hah. One of the most unforgiving pieces of work I witnessed was someone working on yeast as a model for aging. Yeast replicates by a process called budding where the daughter cell buds off from the mother cell. The mother cell will produce X number of daughters and then stop producing which is the end of its life basically. So to see how long it "lived" you count the number of daughters it has. The thing is there is no way to really tell over time how many of the cells are the daughter of a particular cell other than to watch that cell literally be produced from the mother and count it.
So someones job was to sit with a microscope and count, literally count, this cell producing other cells 1 at a time for like 50 or 60 replications which would take like 30 hours.
That wasn't me...but damn.5 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »chocolate_owl wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »chocolate_owl wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »Aaron _k123
Thank you for your opinion but are you a doctor? Um, no is my guess. Or do you specialize in kidney health? Um no is my guess. Or do you read stuff on the Web and take it as gospel? Yes, would be my guess.
My kidney health is fantastic. Just sayin...maybe cause I drink water... lol.... I don't know...
Have you tested your kidneys? Probably not...
What I wrote was for people to read and think about. But thank you for your response.
Well, he's not an md but he has a pH.d
PH.D in what? Lol.... this is so funny. Lol.. do what you want... but thank you again for your opinion
Molecular biology and biochemistry so yeah he's an expert. What's your training?
Yeah, but does he have a Youtube channel?
No :-(
That wasn't a requirement for your dissertation
No...but my dissertation is available online if you are ready for that thrilling gripping read. 159 pages of pure awesome, will leave you gripping your seat waiting to find out what happens next.
I actually would read this... Just saying.
You have a high tolerance for pain or a lot of free time on your hands.
Hahaha. I'm a nerd and a glutton for punishment. I spent two years of undergrad making graphene supercapacitors on glass slides. A lot of that time was spent figuring out how to get glass as clean and uncontaminated as possible. Surely your dissertation is more interesting than my step-by-step guide on how to optimize glass cleanliness with a sonicator
Hah. One of the most unforgiving pieces of work I witnessed was someone working on yeast as a model for aging. Yeast replicates by a process called budding where the daughter cell buds off from the mother cell. The mother cell will produce X number of daughters and then stop producing which is the end of its life basically. So to see how long it "lived" you count the number of daughters it has. The thing is there is no way to really tell over time how many of the cells are the daughter of a particular cell other than to watch that cell literally be produced from the mother and count it.
So someones job was to sit with a microscope and count, literally count, this cell producing other cells 1 at a time for like 50 or 60 replications which would take like 30 hours.
That wasn't me...but damn.
That's right up there with watching paint dry.3 -
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Aaron_K123 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »Aaron _k123
Thank you for your opinion but are you a doctor? Um, no is my guess. Or do you specialize in kidney health? Um no is my guess. Or do you read stuff on the Web and take it as gospel? Yes, would be my guess.
My kidney health is fantastic. Just sayin...maybe cause I drink water... lol.... I don't know...
Have you tested your kidneys? Probably not...
What I wrote was for people to read and think about. But thank you for your response.
Well, he's not an md but he has a pH.d
PH.D in what? Lol.... this is so funny. Lol.. do what you want... but thank you again for your opinion
Molecular biology and biochemistry so yeah he's an expert. What's your training?
Yeah, but does he have a Youtube channel?
No :-(
That wasn't a requirement for your dissertation
No...but my dissertation is available online if you are ready for that thrilling gripping read. 159 pages of pure awesome, will leave you gripping your seat waiting to find out what happens next.
Ok now I'm just jealous. Mine is over 500.
Also:
Physical chemist here with extensive background in biochemistry/biophysics chiming in to agree with the scientists on this thread.
Aspartame is safe. The safety of aspartame has been extensively studied for many decades. There is overwhelming evidence of aspartame's safety.
It's a dipeptide, that's two amino acids, the things that make up proteins. It does not trigger insulin, nor would it make any sense for it to do so. And it can help people who are trying to reduce calories in their diet by sweetening many beverages and foods.
Anyone trying to frighten people away from it is not expressing a scientifically informed opinion, but rather is (1) mistaken (2) pushing an anti-science agenda, and/or (3) trying to sell something.
I don't care if anyone uses aspartame or don't use it. I do care when people spread misinformation and blatant falsehoods, no matter how sincere in their beliefs they are.16
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