STOP saying healthy food is more expensive
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i mean some people ARE just really bad at family planning. more education would do some good.
Stop. Just... please.
Thank you. For real, I am truly appalled.
This. 100x this. Its almost sad
It is idiotic to think that som people don't just have too many kids! Proper sexual education could prevet that. You are missing my point.0 -
she's not married, no kids... of course it's easy now!!! geesh!!!0
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I'm with the OP. Shop in season and on sales. Junk food is always more expensive.0
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Lol everyone on here is trying to lose weight but argue that 3dollar TV dinners are much better and less time consuming than making your own food with lotsa veg. This is why you got fat in the first place.
Bahaahhahahaahahhahaha XD
But hamburger helper is so cheap, hahahahahahah0 -
she's not married, no kids... of course it's easy now!!! geesh!!!
Doesn't matter. Her main point is that healthy food is cheaper. You just have to shop smart and make time to prep meals. Clearly, if people have enough time to post on these boards, they have enough time to prep for meals regardless of their marital status.0 -
i mean some people ARE just really bad at family planning. more education would do some good.
Stop. Just... please.
Thank you. For real, I am truly appalled.
This. 100x this. Its almost sad
It is idiotic to think that som people don't just have too many kids! Proper sexual education could prevet that. You are missing my point.
I really think you should stop now. Otherwise I'm calling 'troll'. You can't seriously be for real.0 -
i mean some people ARE just really bad at family planning. more education would do some good.
Stop. Just... please.
Thank you. For real, I am truly appalled.
This. 100x this. Its almost sad
It is idiotic to think that som people don't just have too many kids! Proper sexual education could prevet that. You are missing my point.
in the real world you can talk to people about prevention but whether or not they follow your advice? :P0 -
@slcrooks34 way to go!0
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she's not married, no kids... of course it's easy now!!! geesh!!!
Doesn't matter. Her main point is that healthy food is cheaper. You just have to shop smart and make time to prep meals. Clearly, if people have enough time to post on these boards, they have enough time to prep for meals regardless of their marital status.
I cook the vast majority of my own food, I do prep in advance, I cut and slice and freeze peppers, onions, and such so I can have them on hand and ready.
And it's more expensive to eat this way. I'm putting out over $100 a week to feed my husband and I now, when before I could do it on $75 or so. If you think chicken, veg, and a grain is less expensive than hamburger helper and a pound of ground meat you're crazy.
In fact I made a really lovely chicken and spinach curry from scratch, with udon noodles. About $2 a serving. Hamburger helper+ground beef as about $.75 a serving.0 -
I love how some believe that everyone in the world drives or has access to farmer's markets.
I live in Montreal. I don't drive as my vision doesn't allow it. I went grocery shopping this weekend. It took me 4.5 hours round trip. I had to go to two places to get everything on my list. It cost me just over 100$ for ingredients for lunches and 16 dinner portions. I cook my own dinners for the most part.
There are two farmer's markets. It would take me as long to get to them. Forget about actual farms for me.
This is reality for many people and so I can understand. Thank god you don't need to eat only whole food to lose weight!
but you have to think about more than just weight loss. diabetes, high blood pressure, cancer and other more or less severe chronic illnesses are directly linked to super processed junk. i wonder if heart disease is more or less expensive than a bag of apples?
I'm Canadian, my dear...health care is free...:) So apples are more expensive. Please point to where I stated in my OP that I buy only processed foods, fast food and junk food. Last I checked I pointed out that I cook my own meals...*gasp*...and from scratch at that! I'd say I eat wonderfully delicious whole food about 70% of the time.
As for the comment about biking which seems to have disappeared....I, wait for it...WALK. Wow...how lazy of me to walk 45 minutes to the store, then walk some more to the next store and then walk all the way back home with 2 weeks worth of groceries.
My point was that I buy groceries for 1 person. It costs me 100$ish for 2 weeks worth of food, thus 50$ a week...for ONE person buying fruits/veggies, whole grains, good dairy and good meat PLUS the time it takes me to actually DO those groceries (that's why I only go twice a month). The only way I could purchase for lower would be to purchase in bulk which isn't an option for me as I don't have the room to keep bulk foods, frozen or otherwise. I also don't have my own backyard and sadly, everything I try to grow dies so a garden is not a option for me either. I tried some simple potted herbs and the poor things were uprooting themselves...O_o Canning, preserving, growing and the like are all wonderful, but only if one can actually do them either in terms of time, equipment or skill.
For most people, eating healthy just plain and simply IS more expensive. To say otherwise is grossly generalizing.0 -
she's not married, no kids... of course it's easy now!!! geesh!!!
Doesn't matter. Her main point is that healthy food is cheaper. You just have to shop smart and make time to prep meals. Clearly, if people have enough time to post on these boards, they have enough time to prep for meals regardless of their marital status.
nope... studies show that the junk is cheaper and the poor get fat because all they can afford is junk. do the research. go live in another place...not necessarily another country, just a different place of lower income... some places don't have healthy options. there are places, cities, in the USA that don't have access to fresh produce. high processed foods are cheap and cause weight gain.0 -
Now that sounds just too logical.......are you trying to cause a food fight?she's not married, no kids... of course it's easy now!!! geesh!!!
Doesn't matter. Her main point is that healthy food is cheaper. You just have to shop smart and make time to prep meals. Clearly, if people have enough time to post on these boards, they have enough time to prep for meals regardless of their marital status.
nope... studies show that the junk is cheaper and the poor get fat because all they can afford is junk. do the research. go live in another place...not necessarily another country, just a different place of lower income... some places don't have healthy options. there are places, cities, in the USA that don't have access to fresh produce. high processed foods are cheap and cause weight gain.0 -
I love how some believe that everyone in the world drives or has access to farmer's markets.
I live in Montreal. I don't drive as my vision doesn't allow it. I went grocery shopping this weekend. It took me 4.5 hours round trip. I had to go to two places to get everything on my list. It cost me just over 100$ for ingredients for lunches and 16 dinner portions. I cook my own dinners for the most part.
There are two farmer's markets. It would take me as long to get to them. Forget about actual farms for me.
This is reality for many people and so I can understand. Thank god you don't need to eat only whole food to lose weight!
but you have to think about more than just weight loss. diabetes, high blood pressure, cancer and other more or less severe chronic illnesses are directly linked to super processed junk. i wonder if heart disease is more or less expensive than a bag of apples?
If you are in the situation when you are trying to decide whether to spend that last couple dollars on food for your family, the long-term doesn't matter. You are just trying to survive day to day. There is a reason that people with a higher income live longer (in general) and the high-cost of healthy food is one of them0 -
$30? Including meat? See, I don't believe in buying factory farmed meat, so I can easily spend $30 on meat for just one meal. Our milk is from a small local dairy, and I easily spend at least $20 a week on that. Farm fresh, local, pastured eggs? 3 dozen/week for $12. Then onto fruits and veggies: at least $50-60/week. So yeah, we eat pretty healthy, but it ain't cheap. And it depends on what you define as "healthy." Anything from a factory farm, to me, isn't healthy. GMO ingredients, which I'm pretty sure is in your bread, isn't healthy, so I have to spend more to buy things that *I* believe to be healthy, which includes organic flour so I can make my own breads.
This is a great point. Fresh seasonal fruit and veggies are pretty cheap where I live. I am lucky in that. I splurge big time if I spend more than $10 or $15 a week on produce. And that buys me a lot. Esp strawberries since we grow them year round here. Meat and dairy on the other hand. I want grassfed meat, and we don't have anyplace really to buy that locally so it is $$$$ and then some. Same with eggs and dairy. Eating animal products to me personally are only going to be healthy if they came from a healthy animal. That means hormone free and not living in a cage and fed only corn. That also means I'm paging out the rear to eat *healthy*.
I so envy you Jorean...fresh strawberries YEAR ROUND...*swoons in desire* The strawberry season is already over here in Quebec...but DAMN are Quebec strawberries GOOD...:D They're tiny little gems of divinity.0 -
I have saved money by not buying stuff like oreo cookies, 2 coffee cakes a week, 2 gallons of milk a week, and snacks and work, and because i do save some money (tips at least) by making my food vs going out,
Went to Trader Joe and bought 2 bags of a lot of groceries for $40, and most of that was veg.
Think i did save a lot by buying dry beans/legumes, that totally is a saving.
Perhaps the OP uses a lot of grains and not much veg or other things in, and that way he/she saves money, maybe?0 -
I really think you guys are missing what I'm saying here, and getting offended for no reason.
I grew up poor, and cook for a living. I live in and gew up in an inner city. I grew up in a family of 7, all athletes. My mom is a blind waitress and my dad is a handyman. Never had health insurance, a car, or a tv. All of the clothes I had were thrifted or donated shared a bed with 2 sisters until I was in college. We didn't have a lot. But we had healthy food, though. Potatoes, cabbage, tomatoes, beans, rice, leafy grees, affordable proteins, apples, oranges, pears, bananas. Healthy food doesn't mean tofu and mung beans or organic produce.0 -
I spend about $80 a week or so on groceries for my husband and myself. Avoid all middle aisles, just get our fresh fruits and veggies, dairy, and meats and away we go!
Edit to add: When we were eating heavily processed, including take out, and regular groceries - we spent probably around $160-$200 a week.
May I ask you to share your breakdown of meals? I spend this much for me alone, and this only works because of other items already on hand, or things bought in surplus like rice, beans, etc.
Assuming you consume 3 meals per day, no snacks. How are you able to get 42 meals out of $80 worth of groceries? That's less than $2 per meal. And since by volume, fruits/veggies are lower in calories, given this amount, how is this enough to reach your caloric needs?
*not trolling. Truly wanting to know so I can improve.0 -
I love how some believe that everyone in the world drives or has access to farmer's markets.
I live in Montreal. I don't drive as my vision doesn't allow it. I went grocery shopping this weekend. It took me 4.5 hours round trip. I had to go to two places to get everything on my list. It cost me just over 100$ for ingredients for lunches and 16 dinner portions. I cook my own dinners for the most part.
There are two farmer's markets. It would take me as long to get to them. Forget about actual farms for me.
This is reality for many people and so I can understand. Thank god you don't need to eat only whole food to lose weight!
I also live in Montreal, and I don't drive for groceries. It takes you 4.5 hours? Because of your vision problems? Because no way does it take that long to get to a grocery store in Montreal. It's a city, there are grocery stores everywhere. And Montreal is surrounded by farming communities, we get a lot of cheap produce in season, even outside the farmer's markets (I'm guessing you mean Atwater and Jean-Talon). In 4.5 hours you could take a bus straight to the farms and come back...0 -
she's not married, no kids... of course it's easy now!!! geesh!!!
Doesn't matter. Her main point is that healthy food is cheaper. You just have to shop smart and make time to prep meals. Clearly, if people have enough time to post on these boards, they have enough time to prep for meals regardless of their marital status.
I can tell you from my experience, eating healthy is not cheaper. I make pretty much EVERYTHING from scratch. I can and freeze foods, too. But, like I stated in an earlier response, I buy organic and nothing from factory farms (that to me, is eating healthy). It's very expensive. Sometimes, I honestly wish I didn't care about the food I feed my family, because buying Rice A Roni or Hamburger Helper is a hell of a lot cheaper.0 -
I agree with you!!! 110 percent eating healthy is not expensive i do not have cable at home and i prep my food for the whole week and because I have a hate relationship with veggies I eat more of it. I enjoy left overs more than a month and i dislike wasting food too I only use my car for work only on daily errand I take public transportation helps me burn more calories. Where I live we have a 99 cent store that I can buy veggies for 10 dollars and the rest on protein etc. If we have budgets sometimes we need to sacrific things we really dont need. Well when it comes to your health I believe you shouldnt make excuses right?0
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A great deal of what you were saying was insensitive and offensive, saying that some people who had posted about the challenge of keeping growing kids with never-ending appetites fed well on healthy food could have benefitted from sex education which would have prevented them from having so many kids. Don't you get it? That's r-u-d-e. There, I spelled it out for you.I really think you guys are missing what I'm saying here, and getting offended for no reason.
I grew up poor, and cook for a living. I live in and gew up in an inner city. I grew up in a family of 7, all athletes. My mom is a blind waitress and my dad is a handyman. Never had health insurance, a car, or a tv. All of the clothes I had were thrifted or donated shared a bed with 2 sisters until I was in college. We didn't have a lot. But we had healthy food, though. Potatoes, cabbage, tomatoes, beans, rice, leafy grees, affordable proteins, apples, oranges, pears, bananas. Healthy food doesn't mean tofu and mung beans or organic produce.0 -
I would love to live in the states according to the grocery prices.I am on a small island in Newfoundland ( Canada) and food is trucked in across from other provinces.It costs me $300 a week for groceries .......that's with 3 children. Just a 2litre of milk is well over $4.I can get a 2 litre pop for .99cents,chips the same, .........So for me eating healthy does cost me more but my health is worth it!0
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i hate to disagree, but I disagree....you can buy broccoli on Sale (e.g., $3) - but nutritionally that represents 100 calories total. If your calorie allowance is 2000 per day, you can do the math on that.....you still have to get the 1900 additional calories from somewhere.
By contrast you can buy 4 boxes of Kraft Mac n cheese for the same $3 - that is (for example) 6000 calories - there are some eye opening studies on poverty, obesity, and inner cities and why these are linked.....0 -
But hamburger helper is so cheap, hahahahahahah
Right? Because cooking that pound of hamburger into patties and serving it with a head of steamed fresh broccoli! You could add rice (cooked with chicken stock saved from the previous night when you boiled chicken for a dinner) and a few herbs or even noodles. It would STILL be less to feed a family of 4 with fresh ingredients than that box of hamburger helper. The only thing you are buying is a box of additives, often times disregarding the need for fresh nutrient-dense vegetables.0 -
This thread has caused me to consider my own personal grocery budget in a week. Since I'm underemployed, it's probably just as well....
Edit: Butter is pretty cheap and healthy, and I realized that I eat a lot of butter in a week - it adds up on calories and fills me up for a relatively low cost.0 -
Not quite sure why my text went into a quote box
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I love how some believe that everyone in the world drives or has access to farmer's markets.
I live in Montreal. I don't drive as my vision doesn't allow it. I went grocery shopping this weekend. It took me 4.5 hours round trip. I had to go to two places to get everything on my list. It cost me just over 100$ for ingredients for lunches and 16 dinner portions. I cook my own dinners for the most part.
There are two farmer's markets. It would take me as long to get to them. Forget about actual farms for me.
This is reality for many people and so I can understand. Thank god you don't need to eat only whole food to lose weight!
I also live in Montreal, and I don't drive for groceries. It takes you 4.5 hours? Because of your vision problems? Because no way does it take that long to get to a grocery store in Montreal. It's a city, there are grocery stores everywhere. And Montreal is surrounded by farming communities, we get a lot of cheap produce in season, even outside the farmer's markets (I'm guessing you mean Atwater and Jean-Talon). In 4.5 hours you could take a bus straight to the farms and come back...
I answered that already above. I live in VSL, I'm surrounded by houses, house and more houses. Everything is above Cote-Vertu and I'm below near the highway. There is a small grocer near me (10-15 min walk) but most of what they sell is not what I am looking for...their selection is very limited. The closest dep is the same distance away....god I miss having a dep right next door!
It would take about the same amount of time sure...and I'd have about 1/4 of my grocery list. Or do all farms now suddenly provide every kind of produce all in one spot?
Yup, I was talking about JT and Atwater. I will gladly go to one of them next time and see if I can get everything on my grocery list (that is VERY important, that's why it took me so bloody long, I had to go to several places).0 -
But hamburger helper is so cheap, hahahahahahah
Right? Because cooking that pound of hamburger into patties and serving it with a head of steamed fresh broccoli! You could add rice (cooked with chicken stock saved from the previous night when you boiled chicken for a dinner) and a few herbs or even noodles. It would STILL be less to feed a family of 4 with fresh ingredients than that box of hamburger helper. The only thing you are buying is a box of additives, often times disregarding the need for fresh nutrient-dense vegetables.
This one is easy, because I just bought some broccoli actually.
Ground Beef: $3 a pound
Hamburger helper: $1
Ground Beef: $3 a pound
Broccoli:1.79, on sale
Well. So much for the noodles/rice.
I live in Hawaii. My produce is shipped from across the ocean. There is nothing *cheap* A grapefruit sets me back 2 dollars for ONE. One. A singular grapefruit. It will never be less expensive to buy fresh produce here.
And, on that note, that ground beef and broccoli isn't enough for me or my husband. I'm putting down 1800 calories a day (to lose weight) and that comes to what...300? Add in a cup of rice and I've got 400 calories? I eat twice that at dinner. It adds up.0 -
A great deal of what you were saying was insensitive and offensive, saying that some people who had posted about the challenge of keeping growing kids with never-ending appetites fed well on healthy food could have benefitted from sex education which would have prevented them from having so many kids. Don't you get it? That's r-u-d-e. There, I spelled it out for you.I really think you guys are missing what I'm saying here, and getting offended for no reason.
I grew up poor, and cook for a living. I live in and gew up in an inner city. I grew up in a family of 7, all athletes. My mom is a blind waitress and my dad is a handyman. Never had health insurance, a car, or a tv. All of the clothes I had were thrifted or donated shared a bed with 2 sisters until I was in college. We didn't have a lot. But we had healthy food, though. Potatoes, cabbage, tomatoes, beans, rice, leafy grees, affordable proteins, apples, oranges, pears, bananas. Healthy food doesn't mean tofu and mung beans or organic produce.
What are you talking about? I never suggested any of that. Some one wondered why people have so many kids if the can't afford to feed them, and I merely noted that sometimes they don't mean to have so many kids. A lot of young people aren't getting the knowledge they need to make informed decisions. That's all I was saying. If you tell me I'm being insensitive then you are just being blind.0 -
But hamburger helper is so cheap, hahahahahahah
Right? Because cooking that pound of hamburger into patties and serving it with a head of steamed fresh broccoli! You could add rice (cooked with chicken stock saved from the previous night when you boiled chicken for a dinner) and a few herbs or even noodles. It would STILL be less to feed a family of 4 with fresh ingredients than that box of hamburger helper. The only thing you are buying is a box of additives, often times disregarding the need for fresh nutrient-dense vegetables.
This one is easy, because I just bought some broccoli actually.
Ground Beef: $3 a pound
Hamburger helper: $1
Ground Beef: $3 a pound
Broccoli:1.79, on sale
Well. So much for the noodles/rice.
I live in Hawaii. My produce is shipped from across the ocean. There is nothing *cheap* A grapefruit sets me back 2 dollars for ONE. One. A singular grapefruit. It will never be less expensive to buy fresh produce here.
yes but nutritionally, the brocoli - even though more expensive is - 100% good for the body; the hamburger helper is 0% good for the body. Looking at what will be better for your body is the brocoli, more expensive cost-wise, but the hamburger helper is more expensive nutritionally.0
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